Re: Alkaline Water VS Ozone

[Guest guest]

Dear Dennis,

In my opinion, he has got it reversed.

Lack of oxygen to the cell results in production of carbon monoxide, which

is acidifying. Further inhibition of respiration will force the cell to

become completely anerobic, and produce lactic acid. These are the basic

causes of acidity.

BASIC CELLULAR FUNCTION

Oxidation by Aerobic Respiration

C6H12O6 + 6O2 = 6CO2 + 6 H2O + ATP

glucose + oxygen = carbon dioxide + water + 2870 kjoules

Impaired Respiration

C6H12O6 + 5 O2 = 4CO2 + 6 H2O + 2CO + ATP

glucose + oxygen = carbon dioxide + water + carbon

monoxide + 2500 kjoules

Fermentation by Anerobic Respiration

C6H12O6 = 2C3H5O3 + 2H+

glucose = lactate + hydrogen ions (acid) + 150 kjoules

ferments

Oxygen is the most important nutrient, although it is not considerd as such

by most people. The body requires about 800 liters of oxygen per day. If you

want to prove which is the most important nutrient, see how long you can go

without them :

- fasting from food can be done for 40 days;

- you can live without water for a week or so, but

- cut off oxygen and you die in a few minutes.

It is true that cancer thrives in an acidic environment. Its growth is due

to being in acidity, which its own (oxygen starved) anerobic functioning

creates.

The stimulus for this growth is the secretion of enzyme growth factors (EGF)

by the T-cells and macrophages in the presence of acidity. Any cell that is

in the area and fermenting its sugar due to having been switched to the

backup anerobic system by a lack of oxygen, can be stimulated by EGF into

replicating wildly. Reduction in the cell acid production is the key, and

the way to do it is with suplying of oxygen to the cell, plus ensuring that

all other factors are there to allow the cell to take the oxygen in

(calcium, B vitamins, etc.).

Best of Health!

Saul Pressman

URL: http://www.plasmafire.com

email: saul@...

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Alkaline Water VS Ozone

>From: Dennis Lipter <dlipter@...>

>

>I have been studying the work of Sang Whang who in his book

> " Reverse Aging "

>claims the root cause of disease is the gradual acidification

>(lowering of

>pH) of the body. He cites cancer as being an anaerobic process that

>grows in

>an acidic (low pH) environment. He goes on further to mention that

>the

>Germans use of ozone therapies to treat many disease conditions as

>targeting

>the symptom (oxygen deficit) as opposed to the cause (acid buildup)

>and the

>Japanese and Koreans use of alkaline water to deacidify the body as

>a

>corrective for the oxygen deficit pointing out that oxygen deficit

>is a

>symptom, and the buildup of acid waste products is the true cause

>of the

>oxygen deficit. Drinking alkaline water which is rich in excess

>oxygen and

>alkaline minerals both supplies oxygen and the minerals to correct

>the root

>cause for the lack of oxygen.

>

>How about some feedback as to the validity of this philosophy of

>health and

>disease. Agree or disagree? How about some critical feedback.

>

>Dennis Lipter

>

>

>---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Dennis,

This makes a lot of sense to me. I have heard this same train of thought

expressed in several other health modalities. For example, in raw foods

dieting, the idea is to eat as much alkaline food as possible, minimizing

the amount of acid forming food, so as to turn your body as alkaline as

possible. Additionally, whenever preparing for an extended urine fast, it is

strongly suggested to test your urine with ph testers until it is alkaline,

then begin the fast. This is so your body will stay alkaline during the fast

as you recycle your alkaline urine.

I have found that the truth is usually very simple, and it will present

itself in a number of ways, but not always obviously.

By the way, how do you find or prepare alkaline water?

Jack

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>From: Dennis Lipter <dlipter@...>

> " oxyplusonelist " <oxyplusonelist>

>Subject: Alkaline Water VS Ozone

>Date: Mon, Jul 26, 1999, 11:04 AM

>

>How about some feedback as to the validity of this philosophy of

>health and

>disease. Agree or disagree?

[Guest guest]

> From: " Saul Pressman " <saul@...>

>

> Dear Dennis,

>

> In my opinion, he has got it reversed.

>

> Lack of oxygen to the cell results in production of carbon monoxide, which

> is acidifying. Further inhibition of respiration will force the cell to

> become completely anerobic, and produce lactic acid. These are the basic

> causes of acidity.

I had tried alkalinizing my body in the past for over acidity without much

effect. But, whether I hyperoxygenated my body with drops or Homozon it

corrected both. And, when I switched to nootropic medicines that allow the brain

cells to operate normally on less oxygen, it also corrected the situation. So,

my personal experience agrees with Saul: it is the constant state of low O2 that

creates the acidity.

jim

--

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http://www.entrance.to/poetry

The biggest difference between genius & stupidity is that genius has its limits.

-- anony

amicus certus in re incerta

[Guest guest]

Awhile back a naturopathic MD advised me to stop eating bread of any kind,

and all wheat, or any grain with wheat in it, because it causes an acid

condition that wouldn't be good for my liver, as I have hepatitis c. Does

anybody have any information on this?

[Guest guest]

> From: jawlaw@...

>

> Dennis,

>

> This makes a lot of sense to me. I have heard this same train

> of thought expressed in several other health modalities. For

> example, in raw foods dieting, the idea is to eat as much

> alkaline food as possible, minimizing the amount of acid

> forming food, so as to turn your body as alkaline as

> possible. Additionally, whenever preparing for an extended

> urine fast, it is strongly suggested to test your urine with

> ph testers until it is alkaline, then begin the fast. This is

> so your body will stay alkaline during the fast as you

> recycle your alkaline urine. I have found that the truth is

> usually very simple, and it will present itself in a number

> of ways, but not always obviously. By the way, how do you

> find or prepare alkaline water?

>

> Jack

If I'm not mistaken, your urine is SUPPOSED to be

slightly acidic.

--

Marcus

[Guest guest]

You prepare alkaline water two ways:

1 Buy an alkaline water machine.

2 Purchase some sodium and potassium hydroxide. Mix 75% potassium hydroxide to

25% sodium hydroxide. Dilute the mixture 10/1 with distilled water and add a few

drops to drinking water to raise the pH to 10.

Dennis Lipter

jawlaw@... wrote:

> From: jawlaw@...

>

> Dennis,

>

> This makes a lot of sense to me. I have heard this same train of thought

> expressed in several other health modalities. For example, in raw foods

> dieting, the idea is to eat as much alkaline food as possible, minimizing

> the amount of acid forming food, so as to turn your body as alkaline as

> possible. Additionally, whenever preparing for an extended urine fast, it is

> strongly suggested to test your urine with ph testers until it is alkaline,

> then begin the fast. This is so your body will stay alkaline during the fast

> as you recycle your alkaline urine.

> I have found that the truth is usually very simple, and it will present

> itself in a number of ways, but not always obviously.

> By the way, how do you find or prepare alkaline water?

>

> Jack

> ----------

> >From: Dennis Lipter <dlipter@...>

> > " oxyplusonelist " <oxyplusonelist>

> >Subject: Alkaline Water VS Ozone

> >Date: Mon, Jul 26, 1999, 11:04 AM

> >

>

> >How about some feedback as to the validity of this philosophy of

> >health and

> >disease. Agree or disagree?

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

sodium hydroxide...

isn't that lye?!?!

regards,

Dennis

[Guest guest]

check the silver list at silver-list@onelist,com

cs can control hep-c..

also lyme and lupus etc.

regards,

Dennis

[Guest guest]

no more fresh, homemade wholewheat bread?

no more organic black eyed peas and rice? life without flavour is just

existence. i'll do cs, i'll do oxytherapy, i'll do ozone therapy, hell,

i'll do whatever it takes. but where do you draw the line between

quality of life and quantity?

people in nursing homes on gruel and dialysis have quantity of life. but

quality??

NOT!!!

regards,

Dennis

[Guest guest]

Yes it is! It is in the formula for " AlkaLife " alkaline booster.

Go figure.

Dennis Lipter

" D. Garrett " wrote:

> sodium hydroxide...

> isn't that lye?!?!

>

> regards,

> Dennis

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Subject: Re: Alkaline Water VS Ozone

> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 20:22:26 -0400

> From: Dennis Lipter <dlipter@...>

> Reply-oxyplusonelist

> oxyplusonelist

> References: <199907261734.KAA05539@...>

>

> From: Dennis Lipter <dlipter@...>

>

> You prepare alkaline water two ways:

>

> 1 Buy an alkaline water machine.

>

> 2 Purchase some sodium and potassium hydroxide. Mix 75% potassium hydroxide to

25% sodium hydroxide. Dilute the mixture 10/1 with distilled water and add a few

drops to drinking water to raise the pH to 10.

>

> Dennis Lipter

>

> jawlaw@... wrote:

>

> > From: jawlaw@...

> >

> > Dennis,

> >

> > This makes a lot of sense to me. I have heard this same train of thought

> > expressed in several other health modalities. For example, in raw foods

> > dieting, the idea is to eat as much alkaline food as possible, minimizing

> > the amount of acid forming food, so as to turn your body as alkaline as

> > possible. Additionally, whenever preparing for an extended urine fast, it is

> > strongly suggested to test your urine with ph testers until it is alkaline,

> > then begin the fast. This is so your body will stay alkaline during the fast

> > as you recycle your alkaline urine.

> > I have found that the truth is usually very simple, and it will present

> > itself in a number of ways, but not always obviously.

> > By the way, how do you find or prepare alkaline water?

> >

> > Jack

> > ----------

> > >From: Dennis Lipter <dlipter@...>

> > > " oxyplusonelist " <oxyplusonelist>

> > >Subject: Alkaline Water VS Ozone

> > >Date: Mon, Jul 26, 1999, 11:04 AM

> > >

> >

> > >How about some feedback as to the validity of this philosophy of

> > >health and

> > >disease. Agree or disagree?

> >

> > ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

still....

drain-o is good for people???

drain snot disolver is beneficial?

how about just sucking back plutonium

to balance the rest of the non-radioactive

crud in our diets?

regards,

Dennis

[Guest guest]

On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:15:40 -0700 (PDT), djg77@... (D. Garrett)

wrote:

>no more fresh, homemade wholewheat bread?

>no more organic black eyed peas and rice? life without flavour is just

>existence. i'll do cs, i'll do oxytherapy, i'll do ozone therapy, hell,

>i'll do whatever it takes. but where do you draw the line between

>quality of life and quantity?

>people in nursing homes on gruel and dialysis have quantity of life. but

>quality??

>NOT!!!

>

>regards,

>Dennis

I agree Dennis,

Accept the fact that we're not going to live forever, but it can seem

like it!

Chuck

Whales are mammals. Mammals have hair. SHAVE THE WHALES!

[Guest guest]

i don't want to live forever.

can you magine the tedium???

ripe and healthy old age, howerver...

i'lll do whatever it takes!!!

regards,

Dennis

[Guest guest]

On July 26, I wrote

> whenever preparing for an extended

> urine fast, it is strongly suggested to test your urine with

> ph testers until it is alkaline, then begin the fast. This is

> so your body will stay alkaline during the fast as you

> recycle your alkaline urine.

>>From: " Marcus " <cmarcus@...>

>>If I'm not mistaken, your urine is SUPPOSED to be

>>slightly acidic.

Dear ,

I use Martha Christie's book, Your Own Perfect Medicine, as my reference on

pH. At pp. 166-167, she writes that the ideal pH range of urine should vary

from appx. 5 to 8 during each 24 hour period. However, during urine therapy

she warns to monitor pH levels to avoid an extreme in either direction. Too

alkaline and the urine may decrease its anatibacterial activity. " On the

other hand, if the urine is consistently excessively acidic, urine therapy

could create too much of an acid burden in your body. In this case, make

certain that your diet is primarily alkaline-promoting foods, so that you

are balancing your pH and not adding to your body's acid burden through

ingesting extremely acidic urine. "

When discussing this issue with Vilik some time ago, she said she had spoken

with Martha's husband, who had recommended that one start a urine fast only

after the urine was alkaline, to avoid the acid burden on the body

throughout the fast.

Jack

[Guest guest]

urine fast??

drinking piss?

explain please!!!

regards,

Dennis

[Guest guest]

I know it sounds crazy but maybe in the dilution supplied in the product, sodium

hydroxide has some beneficial aspects in the body. The formula is 25% sodium

hydroxide to 75% potassium hydroxide diluted 9 parts distilled water to one part

hydroxide mixture. One once of this mixture contains aprox 700 drops with 2

drops added to 10 oz of water. This seems like a very dilute mixture but I am

not a chemist so I will leave its safety as a question for now. So to answer

your question Drain-o just MIGHT be good for you if taken in the Very

Infinitesimal

Dose as supplied in the AlkaLife product.

Dennis Lipter

" D. Garrett " wrote:

> still....

> drain-o is good for people???

> drain snot disolver is beneficial?

> how about just sucking back plutonium

> to balance the rest of the non-radioactive

> crud in our diets?

>

> regards,

> Dennis

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Subject: Re: Alkaline Water VS Ozone

> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:33:14 -0400

> From: Dennis Lipter <dlipter@...>

> Reply-oxyplusonelist

> oxyplusonelist

> References: <17769-379D00FA-30882@...>

>

> From: Dennis Lipter <dlipter@...>

>

> Yes it is! It is in the formula for " AlkaLife " alkaline booster.

> Go figure.

>

> Dennis Lipter

>

> " D. Garrett " wrote:

>

> > sodium hydroxide...

> > isn't that lye?!?!

> >

> > regards,

> > Dennis

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > Subject: Re: Alkaline Water VS Ozone

> > Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 20:22:26 -0400

> > From: Dennis Lipter <dlipter@...>

> > Reply-oxyplusonelist

> > oxyplusonelist

> > References: <199907261734.KAA05539@...>

> >

> > From: Dennis Lipter <dlipter@...>

> >

> > You prepare alkaline water two ways:

> >

> > 1 Buy an alkaline water machine.

> >

> > 2 Purchase some sodium and potassium hydroxide. Mix 75% potassium hydroxide

to 25% sodium hydroxide. Dilute the mixture 10/1 with distilled water and add a

few drops to drinking water to raise the pH to 10.

> >

> > Dennis Lipter

> >

> > jawlaw@... wrote:

> >

> > > From: jawlaw@...

> > >

> > > Dennis,

> > >

> > > This makes a lot of sense to me. I have heard this same train of thought

> > > expressed in several other health modalities. For example, in raw foods

> > > dieting, the idea is to eat as much alkaline food as possible, minimizing

> > > the amount of acid forming food, so as to turn your body as alkaline as

> > > possible. Additionally, whenever preparing for an extended urine fast, it

is

> > > strongly suggested to test your urine with ph testers until it is

alkaline,

> > > then begin the fast. This is so your body will stay alkaline during the

fast

> > > as you recycle your alkaline urine.

> > > I have found that the truth is usually very simple, and it will present

> > > itself in a number of ways, but not always obviously.

> > > By the way, how do you find or prepare alkaline water?

> > >

> > > Jack

> > > ----------

> > > >From: Dennis Lipter <dlipter@...>

> > > > " oxyplusonelist " <oxyplusonelist>

> > > >Subject: Alkaline Water VS Ozone

> > > >Date: Mon, Jul 26, 1999, 11:04 AM

> > > >

> > >

> > > >How about some feedback as to the validity of this philosophy of

> > > >health and

> > > >disease. Agree or disagree?

> > >

> > > ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

> From: cking@... ( King)

> Whales are mammals. Mammals have hair. SHAVE THE WHALES!

Nuke the whales !

jim

--

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http://www.entrance.to/poetry

The biggest difference between genius & stupidity is that genius has its limits.

-- anony

amicus certus in re incerta

[Guest guest]

" D. Garrett " wrote:

> how about just sucking back plutonium

> to balance the rest of the non-radioactive

> crud in our diets?

Dennis,

Actually, there is a lot of research showing how plutonium can be good for you.

For example, take any quantity of any purity of plutonium, and keep it at least

500 miles away from you. This is of proven health benefit!

Also, since I'm here, please delete old messages in your reposts, keeping only

as much as necessary to explain your answer. Not deleting this extra stuff makes

the archives tediously large for people to wade through, and it is unnecessary.

Thanks. ;-)

jim

--

jim@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience

http://www.entrance.to/poetry

The biggest difference between genius & stupidity is that genius has its limits.

-- anony

amicus certus in re incerta

[Guest guest]

>From: djg77@... (D. Garrett

>urine fast??

>drinking piss?

>explain please!!!

Dear Dennis,

Here are some websites that will help explain urine therapy for you:

http://www.icom.net/~nexus/urine.html

http://cgi1.geocities.com/HotSprings/1158/URINE.HTM

http://www.stop-eating.com/urine.htm

http://www.hps-online.com/hurine.htm

http://users.erols.com/martinlara/index.html

Regards,

Jack

[Guest guest]

> From: Elsol102@...

>

> Awhile back a naturopathic MD advised me to stop eating bread

> of any kind, and all wheat, or any grain with wheat in it,

> because it causes an acid condition that wouldn't be good for

> my liver, as I have hepatitis c. Does anybody have any

> information on this?

Virtually all grains are acid forming (millet and

quinoa excepted, I believe). They are not acid forminmg

when eaten as sprouts, though.

--

Marcus

[Guest guest]

> Dear ,

> I use Martha Christie's book, Your Own Perfect Medicine, as

> my reference on pH. At pp. 166-167, she writes that the ideal

> pH range of urine should vary from appx. 5 to 8 during each

> 24 hour period. However, during urine therapy she warns to

> monitor pH levels to avoid an extreme in either direction.

> Too alkaline and the urine may decrease its anatibacterial

> activity. " On the other hand, if the urine is consistently

> excessively acidic, urine therapy could create too much of an

> acid burden in your body. In this case, make certain that

> your diet is primarily alkaline-promoting foods, so that you

> are balancing your pH and not adding to your body's acid

> burden through ingesting extremely acidic urine. " When

> discussing this issue with Vilik some time ago, she said she

> had spoken with Martha's husband, who had recommended that

> one start a urine fast only after the urine was alkaline, to

> avoid the acid burden on the body throughout the fast.

>

> Jack

Sounds reasonable. After I sent my reply, I did

remember that it did vary, but that it was acidic more

often than it was alkaline. I agree completely though

that it should never go to extremes (thats why I said

'slightly' acidic).

--

Marcus

[Guest guest]

You know, the urine fast makes a lot more sense to me than the urinating

contest. I guess it just depends in which context your urine is in.

Blessings,

Zell

[Guest guest]

This whole question pro & con about urine therapy is like a poker game: Urine or

you're out!

jim

--

jim@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience

http://www.entrance.to/poetry

The biggest difference between genius & stupidity is that genius has its limits.

-- anony

amicus certus in re incerta

[Guest guest]

Have also heard juicing one lemon in 8 oz. water as first a.m. drink helps

alkalinize the body. G.

[Guest guest]

Where do you get this? When I tried Sang Wangs AlkaLife, my heart

RACED. Scared me. I assume it was the drops. ??? Debbie

Why do some peoples messages come out as one long line. I hate this as

I cannot print out the notes to save them??? Is this my problem or

something else??

Dennis Lipter wrote:

>

> From: Dennis Lipter <dlipter@...>

>

> You prepare alkaline water two ways:

>

> 1 Buy an alkaline water machine.

>

> 2 Purchase some sodium and potassium hydroxide.

--

Debbie Mc

mailto:lullwatr@...