Specific Carbohydrate Diet

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I have not heard of the SCD diet, but from the realms of " too much information " ,

I can share my personal experience with something similar. I was diagnosed with

MS 20 yrs ago, and my gut has always been my weak link. So much so, that in the

past year, I have " discovered " that it only functions well on a diet similar to

the one you described. The most important thing for me is NO GRAINS - even my

beloved quinoa. I do eat enzymatically rich fruits (like pineapple) with no

problems but avoid bananas and citrus like the plague. I use a bit of sugar and

maple syrup to sweeten.

If I don't follow this, the implications are right out of the nastiest dysbiosis

text book.

Hope this helps,

Teri Jaklin ND

Waterdown, ON

MS, Chronic Illness, GP

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> From: " Ken and Boyd " <khboyd@...>

> Date: 2005/02/19 Sat PM 04:59:43 EST

> < >

> Subject: Specific Carbohydrate Diet

>

>

> Does anyone have any clinical experience with the Specific Carbohydrate Diet

> (SCD)? I had a patient recently introduce me to this diet. In a nut shell

> the SCD limits many foods that require disacharidase for digestion. This

> includes all grains, including rice, potatoes and sweet potatoes amonst some

> other food. Also all sweeteners except honey are not allowed. All fruit

> must be cooked, except bananas. FOS is prohibited.

>

> The premise is that if a person with ulcerative colits, crohns, chronic

> diarrhea, diverticulitis, IBS or cystic fibrosis consumes complex

> carbohydrates they will not be able to completely digest them. As a result

> the undigested carbohydrates will remain behind as food for pathogenic

> microbical growth in the gut. Once these organisms flourish exotoxins are

> released causing damage to the delicate mucus membranes. To protect itself

> the intestines line themselves with a mucus layer to prevent further damage.

> However, this mucus layer also prevents the disacharides from reaching the

> brush border and thus you have incomplete digestion.

>

> I know this is a concept surrounding dysbiosis. That isn't new. However,

> typically on a dysbiosis diet you are allowed whole grain rice and honey

> isn't allowed. She thinks that honey, if not used in excessive amounts,

> won't cause yeast overgrowth because it is a simple sugar that can be

> completey digested. She does suggest for a couple week to avoid it and then

> add it in cautiously if yeast is suspected. Overall the SCD seems like a

> healthy diet if you make healthy choices from the list of available foods.

> It also seems extreme and difficult eliminating all grains.

>

> Anyone with experience using it? Any thoughts?

>

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> Vancouver, WA

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[Guest guest]

Oops, just realized I said " a little bit of sugar and maple syrup to sweeten " -

NOT SO - Sugar is poison - meant to say honey and maple syrup (more maple syrup)

- sorry

Teri Jaklin ND

Waterdown, ON

MS, Chronic Illness, GP

>

> From: " Ken and Boyd " <khboyd@...>

> Date: 2005/02/19 Sat PM 04:59:43 EST

> < >

> Subject: Specific Carbohydrate Diet

>

>

> Does anyone have any clinical experience with the Specific Carbohydrate Diet

> (SCD)? I had a patient recently introduce me to this diet. In a nut shell

> the SCD limits many foods that require disacharidase for digestion. This

> includes all grains, including rice, potatoes and sweet potatoes amonst some

> other food. Also all sweeteners except honey are not allowed. All fruit

> must be cooked, except bananas. FOS is prohibited.

>

> The premise is that if a person with ulcerative colits, crohns, chronic

> diarrhea, diverticulitis, IBS or cystic fibrosis consumes complex

> carbohydrates they will not be able to completely digest them. As a result

> the undigested carbohydrates will remain behind as food for pathogenic

> microbical growth in the gut. Once these organisms flourish exotoxins are

> released causing damage to the delicate mucus membranes. To protect itself

> the intestines line themselves with a mucus layer to prevent further damage.

> However, this mucus layer also prevents the disacharides from reaching the

> brush border and thus you have incomplete digestion.

>

> I know this is a concept surrounding dysbiosis. That isn't new. However,

> typically on a dysbiosis diet you are allowed whole grain rice and honey

> isn't allowed. She thinks that honey, if not used in excessive amounts,

> won't cause yeast overgrowth because it is a simple sugar that can be

> completey digested. She does suggest for a couple week to avoid it and then

> add it in cautiously if yeast is suspected. Overall the SCD seems like a

> healthy diet if you make healthy choices from the list of available foods.

> It also seems extreme and difficult eliminating all grains.

>

> Anyone with experience using it? Any thoughts?

>

>

> Vancouver, WA

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>

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>

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[Guest guest]

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I have a patient with Crohn's and we have gone back and forth about

this diet for several years now (she processes information very

slowly). She hasn't done it yet, but every time we talk about it, she

gets closer.

She has concerns because she is a vegetarian, but more importantly,

she lives alone and really enjoys eating with friends. On this diet,

she's going to be substantially more restricted, and is trying to

figure out a way to still maintain a social life that includes food

and stay within the bounds of the dietary restrictions. This concern

has been the biggest and most lasting of her various concerns with the

diet, and has been the one we've talked about the most. When she does

the diet, I'll let you know what happens, but until then, that's my

only experience.

Hindman

Portland, OR

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 12:08:29 -0500, jaklin@...

<jaklin@...> wrote:

>

> Oops, just realized I said " a little bit of sugar and maple syrup to sweeten "

- NOT SO - Sugar is poison - meant to say honey and maple syrup (more maple

syrup) - sorry

>

> Teri Jaklin ND

> Waterdown, ON

> MS, Chronic Illness, GP

>

> >

> > From: " Ken and Boyd " <khboyd@...>

> > Date: 2005/02/19 Sat PM 04:59:43 EST

> > < >

> > Subject: Specific Carbohydrate Diet

> >

> >

> > Does anyone have any clinical experience with the Specific Carbohydrate Diet

> > (SCD)? I had a patient recently introduce me to this diet. In a nut shell

> > the SCD limits many foods that require disacharidase for digestion. This

> > includes all grains, including rice, potatoes and sweet potatoes amonst some

> > other food. Also all sweeteners except honey are not allowed. All fruit

> > must be cooked, except bananas. FOS is prohibited.

> >

> > The premise is that if a person with ulcerative colits, crohns, chronic

> > diarrhea, diverticulitis, IBS or cystic fibrosis consumes complex

> > carbohydrates they will not be able to completely digest them. As a result

> > the undigested carbohydrates will remain behind as food for pathogenic

> > microbical growth in the gut. Once these organisms flourish exotoxins are

> > released causing damage to the delicate mucus membranes. To protect itself

> > the intestines line themselves with a mucus layer to prevent further damage.

> > However, this mucus layer also prevents the disacharides from reaching the

> > brush border and thus you have incomplete digestion.

> >

> > I know this is a concept surrounding dysbiosis. That isn't new. However,

> > typically on a dysbiosis diet you are allowed whole grain rice and honey

> > isn't allowed. She thinks that honey, if not used in excessive amounts,

> > won't cause yeast overgrowth because it is a simple sugar that can be

> > completey digested. She does suggest for a couple week to avoid it and then

> > add it in cautiously if yeast is suspected. Overall the SCD seems like a

> > healthy diet if you make healthy choices from the list of available foods.

> > It also seems extreme and difficult eliminating all grains.

> >

> > Anyone with experience using it? Any thoughts?

> >

> >

> > Vancouver, WA

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

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I have a patient with Crohn's and we have gone back and forth about

this diet for several years now (she processes information very

slowly). She hasn't done it yet, but every time we talk about it, she

gets closer.

She has concerns because she is a vegetarian, but more importantly,

she lives alone and really enjoys eating with friends. On this diet,

she's going to be substantially more restricted, and is trying to

figure out a way to still maintain a social life that includes food

and stay within the bounds of the dietary restrictions. This concern

has been the biggest and most lasting of her various concerns with the

diet, and has been the one we've talked about the most. When she does

the diet, I'll let you know what happens, but until then, that's my

only experience.

Hindman

Portland, OR

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 12:08:29 -0500, jaklin@...

<jaklin@...> wrote:

>

> Oops, just realized I said " a little bit of sugar and maple syrup to sweeten "

- NOT SO - Sugar is poison - meant to say honey and maple syrup (more maple

syrup) - sorry

>

> Teri Jaklin ND

> Waterdown, ON

> MS, Chronic Illness, GP

>

> >

> > From: " Ken and Boyd " <khboyd@...>

> > Date: 2005/02/19 Sat PM 04:59:43 EST

> > < >

> > Subject: Specific Carbohydrate Diet

> >

> >

> > Does anyone have any clinical experience with the Specific Carbohydrate Diet

> > (SCD)? I had a patient recently introduce me to this diet. In a nut shell

> > the SCD limits many foods that require disacharidase for digestion. This

> > includes all grains, including rice, potatoes and sweet potatoes amonst some

> > other food. Also all sweeteners except honey are not allowed. All fruit

> > must be cooked, except bananas. FOS is prohibited.

> >

> > The premise is that if a person with ulcerative colits, crohns, chronic

> > diarrhea, diverticulitis, IBS or cystic fibrosis consumes complex

> > carbohydrates they will not be able to completely digest them. As a result

> > the undigested carbohydrates will remain behind as food for pathogenic

> > microbical growth in the gut. Once these organisms flourish exotoxins are

> > released causing damage to the delicate mucus membranes. To protect itself

> > the intestines line themselves with a mucus layer to prevent further damage.

> > However, this mucus layer also prevents the disacharides from reaching the

> > brush border and thus you have incomplete digestion.

> >

> > I know this is a concept surrounding dysbiosis. That isn't new. However,

> > typically on a dysbiosis diet you are allowed whole grain rice and honey

> > isn't allowed. She thinks that honey, if not used in excessive amounts,

> > won't cause yeast overgrowth because it is a simple sugar that can be

> > completey digested. She does suggest for a couple week to avoid it and then

> > add it in cautiously if yeast is suspected. Overall the SCD seems like a

> > healthy diet if you make healthy choices from the list of available foods.

> > It also seems extreme and difficult eliminating all grains.

> >

> > Anyone with experience using it? Any thoughts?

> >

> >

> > Vancouver, WA

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hello and the diet I use for people with crowns, ulcerative colitis would essentially be one with no grains but rice and no animal dairy, essentially a cave person diet with rice and lots of gut healing. L-glutamine and ultra-inflmx by Metagenics, flora, slipperyelm, castor oil pacs. I try to keep it simple so people can do it. All have been able to do this and have thrived. Drainage at what ever level is always provided as well. White, Conn.

Specific Carbohydrate Diet> >> >> > Does anyone have any clinical experience with the Specific Carbohydrate Diet> > (SCD)? I had a patient recently introduce me to this diet. In a nut shell> > the SCD limits many foods that require disacharidase for digestion. This> > includes all grains, including rice, potatoes and sweet potatoes amonst some> > other food. Also all sweeteners except honey are not allowed. All fruit> > must be cooked, except bananas. FOS is prohibited.> >> > The premise is that if a person with ulcerative colits, crohns, chronic> > diarrhea, diverticulitis, IBS or cystic fibrosis consumes complex> > carbohydrates they will not be able to completely digest them. As a result> > the undigested carbohydrates will remain behind as food for pathogenic> > microbical growth in the gut. Once these organisms flourish exotoxins are> > released causing damage to the delicate mucus membranes. To protect itself> > the intestines line themselves with a mucus layer to prevent further damage.> > However, this mucus layer also prevents the disacharides from reaching the> > brush border and thus you have incomplete digestion.> >> > I know this is a concept surrounding dysbiosis. That isn't new. However,> > typically on a dysbiosis diet you are allowed whole grain rice and honey> > isn't allowed. She thinks that honey, if not used in excessive amounts,> > won't cause yeast overgrowth because it is a simple sugar that can be> > completey digested. She does suggest for a couple week to avoid it and then> > add it in cautiously if yeast is suspected. Overall the SCD seems like a> > healthy diet if you make healthy choices from the list of available foods.> > It also seems extreme and difficult eliminating all grains.> >> > Anyone with experience using it? Any thoughts?> >> > > > Vancouver, WA> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >

[Guest guest]

Hello and the diet I use for people with crowns, ulcerative colitis would essentially be one with no grains but rice and no animal dairy, essentially a cave person diet with rice and lots of gut healing. L-glutamine and ultra-inflmx by Metagenics, flora, slipperyelm, castor oil pacs. I try to keep it simple so people can do it. All have been able to do this and have thrived. Drainage at what ever level is always provided as well. White, Conn.

Specific Carbohydrate Diet> >> >> > Does anyone have any clinical experience with the Specific Carbohydrate Diet> > (SCD)? I had a patient recently introduce me to this diet. In a nut shell> > the SCD limits many foods that require disacharidase for digestion. This> > includes all grains, including rice, potatoes and sweet potatoes amonst some> > other food. Also all sweeteners except honey are not allowed. All fruit> > must be cooked, except bananas. FOS is prohibited.> >> > The premise is that if a person with ulcerative colits, crohns, chronic> > diarrhea, diverticulitis, IBS or cystic fibrosis consumes complex> > carbohydrates they will not be able to completely digest them. As a result> > the undigested carbohydrates will remain behind as food for pathogenic> > microbical growth in the gut. Once these organisms flourish exotoxins are> > released causing damage to the delicate mucus membranes. To protect itself> > the intestines line themselves with a mucus layer to prevent further damage.> > However, this mucus layer also prevents the disacharides from reaching the> > brush border and thus you have incomplete digestion.> >> > I know this is a concept surrounding dysbiosis. That isn't new. However,> > typically on a dysbiosis diet you are allowed whole grain rice and honey> > isn't allowed. She thinks that honey, if not used in excessive amounts,> > won't cause yeast overgrowth because it is a simple sugar that can be> > completey digested. She does suggest for a couple week to avoid it and then> > add it in cautiously if yeast is suspected. Overall the SCD seems like a> > healthy diet if you make healthy choices from the list of available foods.> > It also seems extreme and difficult eliminating all grains.> >> > Anyone with experience using it? Any thoughts?> >> > > > Vancouver, WA> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >

[Guest guest]

On another list, a gal is on a Specific Carbohydrate Diet that appears

to be similar to the types of forbidden foods you struggle against.

Specifically, she is searching for a thickener that she can use in

making popover type breads (light stuff) using coconut flour.

The only thickeners I could think of acceptable for her diet were egg

yolks/whites and glycerine, but they wouldn't be proper for this type

of bread.

You got any more ideas?

Anybody?

Chuck

Ever notice how irons have a setting for *permanent* press? I don't

get it...

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