Re: Thickening Home Made Almond Milk - was - Smoothie Advice for Honey Thick Liquid Diet

May 17, 2011

Thanks - what do you think chia gel (blended into the milk) would do?coconut oil?

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On May 17, 2011, at 9:19 AM, Berry wrote:

Lea Ann, I should clarify too that the tapioca gel is great in thicker smoothies and such, but not so much in thin "milks"-that's where it tends to get sticky, but flax gel does GREAT for adding body to thinner liquids.From: Robin <rsmallen@...>Subject: Smoothie Advice for Honey Thick Liquid Diet Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 8:01 AM

Looking for some advice on making smoothies for my husband who has dysphagia. He is able to eat pureed solid foods and liquids thickened to honey thickness only. He may be upgraded to nectar thick liquids later this week dependent on his MBS study. My VitaMix arrives today!

I want to take protein rich smoothies to him in the rehab hospital which they've said is fine...as long as none of the ingredients are such that they melt in the mouth to a thin liquid consistency. Examples would be ice cream...or, I'm guessing, the ice in the smoothie. If so, I must thicken the smoothie with Thickit (which is kind of yukky stuff if you ask me).

Does anybody have experience with this diet? Did you need to thicken due to the ice? When you drink these nice thick smoothies does it thin down in the mouth due to the ice?

Thanks for any and all advice!

Robin

http://www.examiner.com/housewares-in-national/vickilynn-haycrafthttp://www.examiner.com/family-preparedness-in-national/vickilynn-haycraft

May 17, 2011

Shalom!I also use a super-concentrated powdered thickener called " Glucomman. " I add it to my protein shakes, to nut milks, even to meat juices for instant gravy (I do not use flour) that is gluten-free. It also makes great jelled candies and that is what it is known for.

Gluc powder sets up immediately in cold liquids and may clump if not whisked, or put in the VitaMix to disperse. A TINY bit goes a long way, more than xanthan, tapioca etc. And it carries no taste. The powder is derived from a plant (nothing added) in fact, it is the Konjac toor, and it is used to make noodles and candy in Asia.

I add just a tiny bit to my protein shakes and it makes them thick and creamy and not release the thickening. It thickens even more when chilled after mixing. Start with the smallest amount possible, let sit to thicken and add more to desired consistency.

You can read about it here:http://www.konjacfoods.com/product/1.htmI use it all the time and I consider it an essential for our pantry and long-term food storage.

Hope this helps!Vickilynn HaycraftMicah 6:8http://www.realfoodliving.comhttp://www.blog.realfoodliving.com

http://www.bepreparedradio.com/category/prepper-podcasts-health/get-real-get-prepared/

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Berry <berrywell@...> wrote:

Lea Ann, I should clarify too that the tapioca gel is great in thicker smoothies and such, but not so much in thin " milks " -that's where it tends to get sticky, but flax gel does GREAT for adding body to thinner liquids.

From: Robin <rsmallen@...>Subject: Smoothie Advice for Honey Thick Liquid Diet

Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 8:01 AM

Looking for some advice on making smoothies for my husband who has dysphagia. He is able to eat pureed solid foods and liquids thickened to honey thickness only. He may be upgraded to nectar thick liquids later this week dependent on his MBS study. My VitaMix arrives today!

I want to take protein rich smoothies to him in the rehab hospital which they've said is fine...as long as none of the ingredients are such that they melt in the mouth to a thin liquid consistency. Examples would be ice cream...or, I'm guessing, the ice in the smoothie. If so, I must thicken the smoothie with Thickit (which is kind of yukky stuff if you ask me).

Does anybody have experience with this diet? Did you need to thicken due to the ice? When you drink these nice thick smoothies does it thin down in the mouth due to the ice?

Thanks for any and all advice!

Robin

May 17, 2011

That was an issue I struggled with for some time when I first started making "milks", Lea Ann-trying to get it as creamy as store bought. As much as I love tapioca, it gives a bit of a sticky texture to milks, making them stick to your throat a bit-MOST unpleasant! I find that adding a couple of drops of sunflower oil makes a huge difference-it just needs to be shaken back in before serving. The reason the store ones are so creamy, is that the ingredients they add are homogonized into the product so they stay suspended in it, BUT-that destroys the nutrition that was in them in the first place! I tablespoon of cooked beans works well, but again, needed to be reincorporated before serving-either by rebuzzing it in the Vitamix, or a really good shaking. The MOST important thing I discovered, is that if you get used to your own milks,

you no longer want or expect them to have that "creaminess", but that it is really more of a silkiness that you want-easily accomplished with a bit of sunflower oil, or even by adding a Vitamin E capsule (squeeze it into the liquid, discard the gelatin cap) Flax gel works great as a thickener.From: Robin <rsmallen@...>Subject: Smoothie Advice for Honey Thick Liquid Diet Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 8:01 AM

Looking for some advice on making smoothies for my husband who has dysphagia. He is able to eat pureed solid foods and liquids thickened to honey thickness only. He may be upgraded to nectar thick liquids later this week dependent on his MBS study. My VitaMix arrives today!

I want to take protein rich smoothies to him in the rehab hospital which they've said is fine...as long as none of the ingredients are such that they melt in the mouth to a thin liquid consistency. Examples would be ice cream...or, I'm guessing, the ice in the smoothie. If so, I must thicken the smoothie with Thickit (which is kind of yukky stuff if you ask me).

Does anybody have experience with this diet? Did you need to thicken due to the ice? When you drink these nice thick smoothies does it thin down in the mouth due to the ice?

Thanks for any and all advice!

Robin

> www.nanashouse.wordpress.com

May 17, 2011

I don't think I have tried chia or coconut oil in milks-have used both with

success in smoothies, but can't recall if I ever tried them in milks though

(probably, seems I tried EVERYTHING, lol) Happy to give it go for you-will let

you know.

>

> From: Robin <rsmallen@...>

> Subject: Smoothie Advice for Honey Thick Liquid Diet

>

> Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 8:01 AM

>

> Looking for some advice on making smoothies for my husband who has dysphagia.

He is able to eat pureed solid foods and liquids thickened to honey thickness

only. He may be upgraded to nectar thick liquids later this week dependent on

his MBS study. My VitaMix arrives today!

>

> I want to take protein rich smoothies to him in the rehab hospital which

they've said is fine...as long as none of the ingredients are such that they

melt in the mouth to a thin liquid consistency. Examples would be ice

cream...or, I'm guessing, the ice in the smoothie. If so, I must thicken the

smoothie with Thickit (which is kind of yukky stuff if you ask me).

>

> Does anybody have experience with this diet? Did you need to thicken due to

the ice? When you drink these nice thick smoothies does it thin down in the

mouth due to the ice?

>

> Thanks for any and all advice!

>

> Robin

>

May 17, 2011

Konjac flour does work great as a thickener. Agar-agar is similar (it is a seaweed) that works great for "gelling" things similar to jello. I quit using either since I couldn't find sources that didn't come from China (that is just a personal issue, not saying no one should) I have since learned that I can make tapioca perform in pretty much the same way, depending on how I process the tapioca in the Vitamix.

From: Robin <rsmallen@...>Subject: Smoothie Advice for Honey Thick Liquid Diet

Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 8:01 AM

Looking for some advice on making smoothies for my husband who has dysphagia. He is able to eat pureed solid foods and liquids thickened to honey thickness only. He may be upgraded to nectar thick liquids later this week dependent on his MBS study. My VitaMix arrives today!

I want to take protein rich smoothies to him in the rehab hospital which they've said is fine...as long as none of the ingredients are such that they melt in the mouth to a thin liquid consistency. Examples would be ice cream...or, I'm guessing, the ice in the smoothie. If so, I must thicken the smoothie with Thickit (which is kind of yukky stuff if you ask me).

Does anybody have experience with this diet? Did you need to thicken due to the ice? When you drink these nice thick smoothies does it thin down in the mouth due to the ice?

Thanks for any and all advice!

Robin

http://www.blog.realfoodliving.comhttp://www.examiner.com/housewares-in-national/vickilynn-haycraft

May 17, 2011

Ooooops, that spelling is: glucomannan powderWebsite: http://www.konjacfoods.com/product/1.htmVickilynn HaycraftMicah 6:8http://www.realfoodliving.com

http://www.examiner.com/family-preparedness-in-national/vickilynn-haycrafthttp://www.bepreparedradio.com/category/prepper-podcasts-health/get-real-get-prepared/

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:34 AM, <berrywell@...> wrote:

I don't think I have tried chia or coconut oil in milks-have used both with success in smoothies, but can't recall if I ever tried them in milks though (probably, seems I tried EVERYTHING, lol) Happy to give it go for you-will let you know.

>

> From: Robin <rsmallen@...>

> Subject: Smoothie Advice for Honey Thick Liquid Diet

>

> Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 8:01 AM

>

> Looking for some advice on making smoothies for my husband who has dysphagia. He is able to eat pureed solid foods and liquids thickened to honey thickness only. He may be upgraded to nectar thick liquids later this week dependent on his MBS study. My VitaMix arrives today!

>

> I want to take protein rich smoothies to him in the rehab hospital which they've said is fine...as long as none of the ingredients are such that they melt in the mouth to a thin liquid consistency. Examples would be ice cream...or, I'm guessing, the ice in the smoothie. If so, I must thicken the smoothie with Thickit (which is kind of yukky stuff if you ask me).

>

> Does anybody have experience with this diet? Did you need to thicken due to the ice? When you drink these nice thick smoothies does it thin down in the mouth due to the ice?

>

> Thanks for any and all advice!

>

> Robin

> www.nanashouse.wordpress.com

>

May 17, 2011

AMAZING! and THANK YOU!!! THIS IS THE MAIN INGREDIENT in the PGX supplement that I take!!! I just bought some from the link you provided (for $25 including shipping) and that bag is what 10? 20? times the amount that I get in one bottle of this: http://www.amazon.com/Natural-Factors-Wellbetx-Soluble-capsules/dp/B000AMXR7Q (for more $ if you include shipping!)I'm SO EXCITED for it to arrive! Now I don't have to be stingy with the remaining pills in my PGX bottle and I'm going to open a couple of them and dump them into my next smoothie to see what happens!THANKS AGAIN! (sorry for all of the cyber-shouting ;-)

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On May 17, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Vickilynn H wrote:

Shalom!I also use a super-concentrated powdered thickener called "Glucomman." I add it to my protein shakes, to nut milks, even to meat juices for instant gravy (I do not use flour) that is gluten-free. It also makes great jelled candies and that is what it is known for.

Gluc powder sets up immediately in cold liquids and may clump if not whisked, or put in the VitaMix to disperse. A TINY bit goes a long way, more than xanthan, tapioca etc. And it carries no taste. The powder is derived from a plant (nothing added) in fact, it is the Konjac toor, and it is used to make noodles and candy in Asia.

I add just a tiny bit to my protein shakes and it makes them thick and creamy and not release the thickening. It thickens even more when chilled after mixing. Start with the smallest amount possible, let sit to thicken and add more to desired consistency.

You can read about it here:http://www.konjacfoods.com/product/1.htmI use it all the time and I consider it an essential for our pantry and long-term food storage.

Hope this helps!Vickilynn HaycraftMicah 6:8http://www.realfoodliving.comhttp://www.blog.realfoodliving.com

http://www.examiner.com/housewares-in-national/vickilynn-haycrafthttp://www.examiner.com/family-preparedness-in-national/vickilynn-haycraft

http://www.bepreparedradio.com/category/prepper-podcasts-health/get-real-get-prepared/

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Berry <berrywell@...> wrote:

Lea Ann, I should clarify too that the tapioca gel is great in thicker smoothies and such, but not so much in thin "milks"-that's where it tends to get sticky, but flax gel does GREAT for adding body to thinner liquids.

From: Robin <rsmallen@...>Subject: Smoothie Advice for Honey Thick Liquid Diet

Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 8:01 AM

Looking for some advice on making smoothies for my husband who has dysphagia. He is able to eat pureed solid foods and liquids thickened to honey thickness only. He may be upgraded to nectar thick liquids later this week dependent on his MBS study. My VitaMix arrives today!

I want to take protein rich smoothies to him in the rehab hospital which they've said is fine...as long as none of the ingredients are such that they melt in the mouth to a thin liquid consistency. Examples would be ice cream...or, I'm guessing, the ice in the smoothie. If so, I must thicken the smoothie with Thickit (which is kind of yukky stuff if you ask me).

Does anybody have experience with this diet? Did you need to thicken due to the ice? When you drink these nice thick smoothies does it thin down in the mouth due to the ice?

Thanks for any and all advice!

Robin

http://www.examiner.com/housewares-in-national/vickilynn-haycrafthttp://www.examiner.com/family-preparedness-in-national/vickilynn-haycraft

May 17, 2011

I did the math. The bag I bought at Vickilynn's recommendation is a 455% increase in volume of soluble fiber over the amount of fiber in the PGX supplement. The PGX bottle contains 90 grams, and the bag I bought has 500 grams! Woo Hoo!My middle son has AWFUL carb cravings. I'm not even going to tell him what I'm up to - I'm just going to get this into his smoothies and FILL HIM UP (a reduction in sugar/carb cravings and lowering high blood sugars is one of the frequent testimonies about this product). Now I have to figure out how I"m going to get him to take it. He does not like smoothies or even ice cream!!! (can you believe that?)

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On May 17, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Lea Ann Savage wrote:

AMAZING! and THANK YOU!!! THIS IS THE MAIN INGREDIENT in the PGX supplement that I take!!! I just bought some from the link you provided (for $25 including shipping) and that bag is what 10? 20? times the amount that I get in one bottle of this: http://www.amazon.com/Natural-Factors-Wellbetx-Soluble-capsules/dp/B000AMXR7Q (for more $ if you include shipping!)I'm SO EXCITED for it to arrive! Now I don't have to be stingy with the remaining pills in my PGX bottle and I'm going to open a couple of them and dump them into my next smoothie to see what happens!THANKS AGAIN! (sorry for all of the cyber-shouting ;-)

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On May 17, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Vickilynn H wrote:

Shalom!I also use a super-concentrated powdered thickener called "Glucomman." I add it to my protein shakes, to nut milks, even to meat juices for instant gravy (I do not use flour) that is gluten-free. It also makes great jelled candies and that is what it is known for.

Gluc powder sets up immediately in cold liquids and may clump if not whisked, or put in the VitaMix to disperse. A TINY bit goes a long way, more than xanthan, tapioca etc. And it carries no taste. The powder is derived from a plant (nothing added) in fact, it is the Konjac toor, and it is used to make noodles and candy in Asia.

I add just a tiny bit to my protein shakes and it makes them thick and creamy and not release the thickening. It thickens even more when chilled after mixing. Start with the smallest amount possible, let sit to thicken and add more to desired consistency.

You can read about it here:http://www.konjacfoods.com/product/1.htmI use it all the time and I consider it an essential for our pantry and long-term food storage.

Hope this helps!Vickilynn HaycraftMicah 6:8http://www.realfoodliving.comhttp://www.blog.realfoodliving.com

http://www.bepreparedradio.com/category/prepper-podcasts-health/get-real-get-prepared/

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Berry <berrywell@...> wrote:

Lea Ann, I should clarify too that the tapioca gel is great in thicker smoothies and such, but not so much in thin "milks"-that's where it tends to get sticky, but flax gel does GREAT for adding body to thinner liquids.

From: Robin <rsmallen@...>Subject: Smoothie Advice for Honey Thick Liquid Diet

Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 8:01 AM

Looking for some advice on making smoothies for my husband who has dysphagia. He is able to eat pureed solid foods and liquids thickened to honey thickness only. He may be upgraded to nectar thick liquids later this week dependent on his MBS study. My VitaMix arrives today!

I want to take protein rich smoothies to him in the rehab hospital which they've said is fine...as long as none of the ingredients are such that they melt in the mouth to a thin liquid consistency. Examples would be ice cream...or, I'm guessing, the ice in the smoothie. If so, I must thicken the smoothie with Thickit (which is kind of yukky stuff if you ask me).

Does anybody have experience with this diet? Did you need to thicken due to the ice? When you drink these nice thick smoothies does it thin down in the mouth due to the ice?

Thanks for any and all advice!

Robin

http://www.blog.realfoodliving.comhttp://www.examiner.com/housewares-in-national/vickilynn-haycraft

May 17, 2011

hehehehehe! Love the enthusiasm!!I got excited as well when someone on my low carb message board told us about this thickener that has no cals, no carbs and no taste. And the thickening power was super-concentrated. I started using it in my daily protein shake in the VitaMix and was amazed at how little it took to thicken! And it keeps me fuller longer.

Now I use it for the whole family, as I said, for making gravy from drippings. I even split our family's pure maple syrup, thinned it with a little water and added the gluc powder to make a thick, almost jelly-like consistency to save money while keeping our nutrition.

I use it for all sorts of things and it works best when I use it mixed very well in cold liquids (sets up immediately), mixed in the VitaMix- (makes it very smooth no clumps!!) then added to warm liquids for even more thickening, or added to cold liquids, such as homemade almond milk and chilled - gets nice and thick.

SO many uses and it's cost effective because it's so concentrated.Vickilynn HaycraftMicah 6:8http://www.realfoodliving.com

http://www.examiner.com/family-preparedness-in-national/vickilynn-haycrafthttp://www.bepreparedradio.com/category/prepper-podcasts-health/get-real-get-prepared/

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Lea Ann Savage <lsavage@...> wrote:

AMAZING! and THANK YOU!!! THIS IS THE MAIN INGREDIENT in the PGX supplement that I take!!! I just bought some from the link you provided (for $25 including shipping) and that bag is what 10? 20? times the amount that I get in one bottle of this: http://www.amazon.com/Natural-Factors-Wellbetx-Soluble-capsules/dp/B000AMXR7Q (for more $ if you include shipping!)

I'm SO EXCITED for it to arrive! Now I don't have to be stingy with the remaining pills in my PGX bottle and I'm going to open a couple of them and dump them into my next smoothie to see what happens!

THANKS AGAIN! (sorry for all of the cyber-shouting ;-)

Blessings,

Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)

))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On May 17, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Vickilynn H wrote:

Shalom!I also use a super-concentrated powdered thickener called " Glucomman. " I add it to my protein shakes, to nut milks, even to meat juices for instant gravy (I do not use flour) that is gluten-free. It also makes great jelled candies and that is what it is known for.

Gluc powder sets up immediately in cold liquids and may clump if not whisked, or put in the VitaMix to disperse. A TINY bit goes a long way, more than xanthan, tapioca etc. And it carries no taste. The powder is derived from a plant (nothing added) in fact, it is the Konjac toor, and it is used to make noodles and candy in Asia.

I add just a tiny bit to my protein shakes and it makes them thick and creamy and not release the thickening. It thickens even more when chilled after mixing. Start with the smallest amount possible, let sit to thicken and add more to desired consistency.

You can read about it here:http://www.konjacfoods.com/product/1.htmI use it all the time and I consider it an essential for our pantry and long-term food storage.

Hope this helps!Vickilynn HaycraftMicah 6:8http://www.realfoodliving.comhttp://www.blog.realfoodliving.com

http://www.examiner.com/housewares-in-national/vickilynn-haycrafthttp://www.examiner.com/family-preparedness-in-national/vickilynn-haycraft

http://www.bepreparedradio.com/category/prepper-podcasts-health/get-real-get-prepared/

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Berry <berrywell@...> wrote:

Lea Ann, I should clarify too that the tapioca gel is great in thicker smoothies and such, but not so much in thin " milks " -that's where it tends to get sticky, but flax gel does GREAT for adding body to thinner liquids.

From: Robin <rsmallen@...>Subject: Smoothie Advice for Honey Thick Liquid Diet

Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 8:01 AM

Looking for some advice on making smoothies for my husband who has dysphagia. He is able to eat pureed solid foods and liquids thickened to honey thickness only. He may be upgraded to nectar thick liquids later this week dependent on his MBS study. My VitaMix arrives today!

I want to take protein rich smoothies to him in the rehab hospital which they've said is fine...as long as none of the ingredients are such that they melt in the mouth to a thin liquid consistency. Examples would be ice cream...or, I'm guessing, the ice in the smoothie. If so, I must thicken the smoothie with Thickit (which is kind of yukky stuff if you ask me).

Does anybody have experience with this diet? Did you need to thicken due to the ice? When you drink these nice thick smoothies does it thin down in the mouth due to the ice?

Thanks for any and all advice!

Robin

May 17, 2011

I agree about the "wanting it to be the same" concept. I don't need for it to be the same AT ALL. It is my picky (and I mean PICKY) kids. Just wondering if I could make it more like store bought.However, now I'm thinking, why not add a bit of ice and some Konjac-Mannon powder and tell them it is a milk-SHAKE instead?I'll be experimenting to see what I can come up with that they will eat. You would NOT believe what my kids eat and that they are MY offspring. To kids in my audiences, I'm the "Cool Vitamix Lady" to MY kids, I'm the CRAZY Health-NUT MOM! ;-)

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On May 17, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Berry wrote:

That was an issue I struggled with for some time when I first started making "milks", Lea Ann-trying to get it as creamy as store bought. As much as I love tapioca, it gives a bit of a sticky texture to milks, making them stick to your throat a bit-MOST unpleasant! I find that adding a couple of drops of sunflower oil makes a huge difference-it just needs to be shaken back in before serving. The reason the store ones are so creamy, is that the ingredients they add are homogonized into the product so they stay suspended in it, BUT-that destroys the nutrition that was in them in the first place! I tablespoon of cooked beans works well, but again, needed to be reincorporated before serving-either by rebuzzing it in the Vitamix, or a really good shaking. The MOST important thing I discovered, is that if you get used to your own milks,

you no longer want or expect them to have that "creaminess", but that it is really more of a silkiness that you want-easily accomplished with a bit of sunflower oil, or even by adding a Vitamin E capsule (squeeze it into the liquid, discard the gelatin cap) Flax gel works great as a thickener.From: Robin <rsmallen@...>Subject: Smoothie Advice for Honey Thick Liquid Diet Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 8:01 AM

Looking for some advice on making smoothies for my husband who has dysphagia. He is able to eat pureed solid foods and liquids thickened to honey thickness only. He may be upgraded to nectar thick liquids later this week dependent on his MBS study. My VitaMix arrives today!

I want to take protein rich smoothies to him in the rehab hospital which they've said is fine...as long as none of the ingredients are such that they melt in the mouth to a thin liquid consistency. Examples would be ice cream...or, I'm guessing, the ice in the smoothie. If so, I must thicken the smoothie with Thickit (which is kind of yukky stuff if you ask me).

Does anybody have experience with this diet? Did you need to thicken due to the ice? When you drink these nice thick smoothies does it thin down in the mouth due to the ice?

Thanks for any and all advice!

Robin

May 17, 2011

Does he like chocolate milk? If so, just add some chocolate and a bit of the powder to some almond milk and add chocolate (or vanilla extract) I melt a bit of homemade chocolate (or Enjoy Life chocolate chips) and add them to almond milk for my daughter-she loves it! She HATES nuts, but doesn't mind drinking almond milk flavored this way.

From: Robin <rsmallen@...>Subject: Smoothie Advice for Honey Thick Liquid Diet

Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 8:01 AM

Looking for some advice on making smoothies for my husband who has dysphagia. He is able to eat pureed solid foods and liquids thickened to honey thickness only. He may be upgraded to nectar thick liquids later this week dependent on his MBS study. My VitaMix arrives today!

I want to take protein rich smoothies to him in the rehab hospital which they've said is fine...as long as none of the ingredients are such that they melt in the mouth to a thin liquid consistency. Examples would be ice cream...or, I'm guessing, the ice in the smoothie. If so, I must thicken the smoothie with Thickit (which is kind of yukky stuff if you ask me).

Does anybody have experience with this diet? Did you need to thicken due to the ice? When you drink these nice thick smoothies does it thin down in the mouth due to the ice?

Thanks for any and all advice!

Robin

May 17, 2011

Surprisingly he does NOT like chocolate or milk! He only like Wheat Breads (in any form) and Chicken Tenders (must be coated). Seriously, I've thought about taking him on a vacation somewhere that I can completely control his diet 24/7 and detox him and after 2-3 days of starvation (self-imposed due to not liking healthy food) he'd have to come around and finally eat some…

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On May 17, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Berry wrote:

Does he like chocolate milk? If so, just add some chocolate and a bit of the powder to some almond milk and add chocolate (or vanilla extract) I melt a bit of homemade chocolate (or Enjoy Life chocolate chips) and add them to almond milk for my daughter-she loves it! She HATES nuts, but doesn't mind drinking almond milk flavored this way.

From: Robin <rsmallen@...>Subject: Smoothie Advice for Honey Thick Liquid Diet

Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 8:01 AM

Looking for some advice on making smoothies for my husband who has dysphagia. He is able to eat pureed solid foods and liquids thickened to honey thickness only. He may be upgraded to nectar thick liquids later this week dependent on his MBS study. My VitaMix arrives today!

I want to take protein rich smoothies to him in the rehab hospital which they've said is fine...as long as none of the ingredients are such that they melt in the mouth to a thin liquid consistency. Examples would be ice cream...or, I'm guessing, the ice in the smoothie. If so, I must thicken the smoothie with Thickit (which is kind of yukky stuff if you ask me).

Does anybody have experience with this diet? Did you need to thicken due to the ice? When you drink these nice thick smoothies does it thin down in the mouth due to the ice?

Thanks for any and all advice!

Robin

May 17, 2011

Think you could use it in fresh fruit " jello " , jello salads and popsicles?

(Jello in popsicles help to keep them from getting rock hard, maybe this would

too.)

Carol K

---- Lea Ann Savage <lsavage@...> wrote:

I did the math. The bag I bought at Vickilynn's recommendation is a 455%

increase in volume of soluble fiber over the amount of fiber in the PGX

supplement. The PGX bottle contains 90 grams, and the bag I bought has 500

grams! Woo Hoo!

My middle son has AWFUL carb cravings. I'm not even going to tell him what I'm

up to - I'm just going to get this into his smoothies and FILL HIM UP (a

reduction in sugar/carb cravings and lowering high blood sugars is one of the

frequent testimonies about this product). Now I have to figure out how I " m

going to get him to take it. He does not like smoothies or even ice cream!!!

(can you believe that?)

Blessings,

Lea Ann Savage

Satellite Beach, FL

(321) 773-7088 (home)

(321-961-9219 (cell)

http://www.amazon.com/Natural-Factors-Wellbetx-Soluble-capsules/dp/B000AMXR7Q

<))><

On May 17, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Lea Ann Savage wrote:

AMAZING! and THANK YOU!!! THIS IS THE MAIN INGREDIENT in the PGX supplement

that I take!!! I just bought some from the link you provided (for $25 including

shipping) and that bag is what 10? 20? times the amount that I get in one bottle

of this:

(for more $ if you include shipping!)

I'm SO EXCITED for it to arrive! Now I don't have to be stingy with the

remaining pills in my PGX bottle and I'm going to open a couple of them and dump

them into my next smoothie to see what happens!

THANKS AGAIN! (sorry for all of the cyber-shouting ;-)

Blessings,

Lea Ann Savage

Satellite Beach, FL

(321) 773-7088 (home)

(321-961-9219 (cell)

http://www.konjacfoods.com/product/1.htm

<))><

On May 17, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Vickilynn H wrote:

Shalom!

I also use a super-concentrated powdered thickener called " Glucomman. " I add it

to my protein shakes, to nut milks, even to meat juices for instant gravy (I do

not use flour) that is gluten-free. It also makes great jelled candies and that

is what it is known for.

Gluc powder sets up immediately in cold liquids and may clump if not whisked, or

put in the VitaMix to disperse. A TINY bit goes a long way, more than xanthan,

tapioca etc. And it carries no taste. The powder is derived from a plant

(nothing added) in fact, it is the Konjac toor, and it is used to make noodles

and candy in Asia.

I add just a tiny bit to my protein shakes and it makes them thick and creamy

and not release the thickening. It thickens even more when chilled after mixing.

Start with the smallest amount possible, let sit to thicken and add more to

desired consistency.

You can read about it here:

I use it all the time and I consider it an essential for our pantry and

long-term food storage.

Hope this helps!

Vickilynn Haycraft

Micah 6:8

http://www.realfoodliving.com

http://www.blog.realfoodliving.com

http://www.examiner.com/housewares-in-national/vickilynn-haycraft

http://www.examiner.com/family-preparedness-in-national/vickilynn-haycraft

http://www.bepreparedradio.com/category/prepper-podcasts-health/get-real-get-pre\

pared/

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Berry <berrywell@...> wrote:

Lea Ann, I should clarify too that the tapioca gel is great in thicker smoothies

and such, but not so much in thin " milks " -that's where it tends to get sticky,

but flax gel does GREAT for adding body to thinner liquids.

From: Robin <rsmallen@...>

Subject: Smoothie Advice for Honey Thick Liquid Diet

Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 8:01 AM

Looking for some advice on making smoothies for my husband who has dysphagia. He

is able to eat pureed solid foods and liquids thickened to honey thickness only.

He may be upgraded to nectar thick liquids later this week dependent on his MBS

study. My VitaMix arrives today!

I want to take protein rich smoothies to him in the rehab hospital which they've

said is fine...as long as none of the ingredients are such that they melt in the

mouth to a thin liquid consistency. Examples would be ice cream...or, I'm

guessing, the ice in the smoothie. If so, I must thicken the smoothie with

Thickit (which is kind of yukky stuff if you ask me).

Does anybody have experience with this diet? Did you need to thicken due to the

ice? When you drink these nice thick smoothies does it thin down in the mouth

due to the ice?

Thanks for any and all advice!

Robin

May 17, 2011

---- Lea Ann Savage wrote:<<...To kids in my audiences, I'm the " Cool Vitamix

Lady " to MY kids, I'm the CRAZY Health-NUT MOM! ;-) >>----

====================================================

Me too!! Made lasagna and used kefir cheese in place of the ricotta knowing that

my son (he's 25) would not eat it if he knew what was in it. He loved it and

took all the leftovers home with him...never told him what the cheese was till

later. Hehehe!

Carol K

May 17, 2011

Have you considered a vitamin deficiency? Carb cravings are usually a sign of low B complex and minerals. Have you had his blood sugar tested on a regular basis? Might be worth looking into.

From: Robin <rsmallen@...>Subject: Smoothie Advice for Honey Thick Liquid Diet

Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 8:01 AM

Looking for some advice on making smoothies for my husband who has dysphagia. He is able to eat pureed solid foods and liquids thickened to honey thickness only. He may be upgraded to nectar thick liquids later this week dependent on his MBS study. My VitaMix arrives today!

I want to take protein rich smoothies to him in the rehab hospital which they've said is fine...as long as none of the ingredients are such that they melt in the mouth to a thin liquid consistency. Examples would be ice cream...or, I'm guessing, the ice in the smoothie. If so, I must thicken the smoothie with Thickit (which is kind of yukky stuff if you ask me).

Does anybody have experience with this diet? Did you need to thicken due to the ice? When you drink these nice thick smoothies does it thin down in the mouth due to the ice?

Thanks for any and all advice!

Robin

May 17, 2011

Yes - I do think you could make fresh fruit "jello". Here is that idea and lots of others (courtesy of Vickilyn) http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/recipe-forum-sticky-threads/709459-glucomannan-recipes.html

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On May 17, 2011, at 12:23 PM, <ckarnes@...> <ckarnes@...> wrote:

Think you could use it in fresh fruit "jello", jello salads and popsicles? (Jello in popsicles help to keep them from getting rock hard, maybe this would too.)

Carol K

---- Lea Ann Savage <lsavage@...> wrote:

I did the math. The bag I bought at Vickilynn's recommendation is a 455% increase in volume of soluble fiber over the amount of fiber in the PGX supplement. The PGX bottle contains 90 grams, and the bag I bought has 500 grams! Woo Hoo!

My middle son has AWFUL carb cravings. I'm not even going to tell him what I'm up to - I'm just going to get this into his smoothies and FILL HIM UP (a reduction in sugar/carb cravings and lowering high blood sugars is one of the frequent testimonies about this product). Now I have to figure out how I"m going to get him to take it. He does not like smoothies or even ice cream!!! (can you believe that?)

Blessings,

Lea Ann Savage

Satellite Beach, FL

(321) 773-7088 (home)

(321-961-9219 (cell)

<))><

On May 17, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Lea Ann Savage wrote:

AMAZING! and THANK YOU!!! THIS IS THE MAIN INGREDIENT in the PGX supplement that I take!!! I just bought some from the link you provided (for $25 including shipping) and that bag is what 10? 20? times the amount that I get in one bottle of this: http://www.amazon.com/Natural-Factors-Wellbetx-Soluble-capsules/dp/B000AMXR7Q (for more $ if you include shipping!)

I'm SO EXCITED for it to arrive! Now I don't have to be stingy with the remaining pills in my PGX bottle and I'm going to open a couple of them and dump them into my next smoothie to see what happens!

THANKS AGAIN! (sorry for all of the cyber-shouting ;-)

Blessings,

Lea Ann Savage

Satellite Beach, FL

(321) 773-7088 (home)

(321-961-9219 (cell)

http://www.konjacfoods.com/product/1.htm

<))><

On May 17, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Vickilynn H wrote:

Shalom!

I also use a super-concentrated powdered thickener called "Glucomman." I add it to my protein shakes, to nut milks, even to meat juices for instant gravy (I do not use flour) that is gluten-free. It also makes great jelled candies and that is what it is known for.

Gluc powder sets up immediately in cold liquids and may clump if not whisked, or put in the VitaMix to disperse. A TINY bit goes a long way, more than xanthan, tapioca etc. And it carries no taste. The powder is derived from a plant (nothing added) in fact, it is the Konjac toor, and it is used to make noodles and candy in Asia.

I add just a tiny bit to my protein shakes and it makes them thick and creamy and not release the thickening. It thickens even more when chilled after mixing. Start with the smallest amount possible, let sit to thicken and add more to desired consistency.

You can read about it here:

I use it all the time and I consider it an essential for our pantry and long-term food storage.

Hope this helps!

Vickilynn Haycraft

Micah 6:8

http://www.realfoodliving.com

http://www.blog.realfoodliving.com

http://www.examiner.com/housewares-in-national/vickilynn-haycraft

http://www.examiner.com/family-preparedness-in-national/vickilynn-haycraft

http://www.bepreparedradio.com/category/prepper-podcasts-health/get-real-get-prepared/

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Berry <berrywell@...> wrote:

Lea Ann, I should clarify too that the tapioca gel is great in thicker smoothies and such, but not so much in thin "milks"-that's where it tends to get sticky, but flax gel does GREAT for adding body to thinner liquids.

From: Robin <rsmallen@...>

Subject: Smoothie Advice for Honey Thick Liquid Diet

Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 8:01 AM

Looking for some advice on making smoothies for my husband who has dysphagia. He is able to eat pureed solid foods and liquids thickened to honey thickness only. He may be upgraded to nectar thick liquids later this week dependent on his MBS study. My VitaMix arrives today!

I want to take protein rich smoothies to him in the rehab hospital which they've said is fine...as long as none of the ingredients are such that they melt in the mouth to a thin liquid consistency. Examples would be ice cream...or, I'm guessing, the ice in the smoothie. If so, I must thicken the smoothie with Thickit (which is kind of yukky stuff if you ask me).

Does anybody have experience with this diet? Did you need to thicken due to the ice? When you drink these nice thick smoothies does it thin down in the mouth due to the ice?

Thanks for any and all advice!

Robin

May 17, 2011

This is a good idea . To be honest, I'd given up. I used to fight and fight to get veggies and fruits into them, but it's 3 on one (and sometimes Dad brings crap into the house so there was even that to contend with). But My oldest and youngest Want to please Mom and will at times eat veggies to get me off of their back.My middle son has lots of issues. I bet that if he were getting better supplements he'd do better all around. It is a real battle to get him to take supplements too however. Not that he can't swallow them, just that he always says "later" then conveniently "forgets"…

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On May 17, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Berry wrote:

Have you considered a vitamin deficiency? Carb cravings are usually a sign of low B complex and minerals. Have you had his blood sugar tested on a regular basis? Might be worth looking into.

From: Robin <rsmallen@...>Subject: Smoothie Advice for Honey Thick Liquid Diet

Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 8:01 AM

Looking for some advice on making smoothies for my husband who has dysphagia. He is able to eat pureed solid foods and liquids thickened to honey thickness only. He may be upgraded to nectar thick liquids later this week dependent on his MBS study. My VitaMix arrives today!

I want to take protein rich smoothies to him in the rehab hospital which they've said is fine...as long as none of the ingredients are such that they melt in the mouth to a thin liquid consistency. Examples would be ice cream...or, I'm guessing, the ice in the smoothie. If so, I must thicken the smoothie with Thickit (which is kind of yukky stuff if you ask me).

Does anybody have experience with this diet? Did you need to thicken due to the ice? When you drink these nice thick smoothies does it thin down in the mouth due to the ice?

Thanks for any and all advice!

Robin

May 17, 2011

He sounds related to my son who prefers mac and cheese or chicken tenders or

pizza over all else. My son is 31.

Velda

-----Original Message-----

From: Lea Ann Savage <lsavage@...>

Subj: Re: Thickening Home Made Almond Milk - was -

Smoothie Advice for Honey Thick Liquid Diet

Date: Tue May 17, 2011 7:58 am

Size: 2K

Surprisingly he does NOT like chocolate or milk! He only like Wheat Breads (in

any form) and Chicken Tenders (must be coated). Seriously, I've thought about

taking him on a vacation somewhere that I can completely control his diet 24/7

and detox him and after 2-3 days of starvation (self-imposed due to not liking

healthy food) he'd have to come around and finally eat some…

Blessings,

Lea Ann Savage

Satellite Beach, FL

(321) 773-7088 (home)

(321-961-9219 (cell)

http://www.amazon.com/Natural-Factors-Wellbetx-Soluble-capsules/dp/B000AMXR7Q

<))><

On May 17, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Berry wrote:

Does he like chocolate milk? If so, just add some chocolate and a bit of the

powder to some almond milk and add chocolate (or vanilla extract) I melt a bit

of homemade chocolate (or Enjoy Life chocolate chips) and add them to almond

milk for my daughter-she loves it! She HATES nuts, but doesn't mind drinking

almond milk flavored this way.

AMAZING! and THANK YOU!!! THIS IS THE MAIN INGREDIENT in the PGX supplement

that I take!!! I just bought some from the link you provided (for $25 including

shipping) and that bag is what 10? 20? times the amount that I get in one bottle

of this:

(for more $ if you include shipping!)

I'm SO EXCITED for it to arrive! Now I don't have to be stingy with the

remaining pills in my PGX bottle and I'm going to open a couple of them and dump

them into my next smoothie to see what happens!

THANKS AGAIN! (sorry for all of the cyber-shouting ;-)

Blessings,

Lea Ann Savage

Satellite Beach, FL

(321) 773-7088 (home)

(321-961-9219 (cell)

--- message truncated ---

May 17, 2011

Oi Vey!

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On May 17, 2011, at 1:38 PM, <solomon@...> wrote:

He sounds related to my son who prefers mac and cheese or chicken tenders or pizza over all else. My son is 31.

Velda

-----Original Message-----

From: Lea Ann Savage <lsavage@...>

Subj: Re: Thickening Home Made Almond Milk - was - Smoothie Advice for Honey Thick Liquid Diet

Date: Tue May 17, 2011 7:58 am

Size: 2K

Surprisingly he does NOT like chocolate or milk! He only like Wheat Breads (in any form) and Chicken Tenders (must be coated). Seriously, I've thought about taking him on a vacation somewhere that I can completely control his diet 24/7 and detox him and after 2-3 days of starvation (self-imposed due to not liking healthy food) he'd have to come around and finally eat some…

Blessings,

Lea Ann Savage

Satellite Beach, FL

(321) 773-7088 (home)

(321-961-9219 (cell)

<))><

On May 17, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Berry wrote:

Does he like chocolate milk? If so, just add some chocolate and a bit of the powder to some almond milk and add chocolate (or vanilla extract) I melt a bit of homemade chocolate (or Enjoy Life chocolate chips) and add them to almond milk for my daughter-she loves it! She HATES nuts, but doesn't mind drinking almond milk flavored this way.

AMAZING! and THANK YOU!!! THIS IS THE MAIN INGREDIENT in the PGX supplement that I take!!! I just bought some from the link you provided (for $25 including shipping) and that bag is what 10? 20? times the amount that I get in one bottle of this: http://www.amazon.com/Natural-Factors-Wellbetx-Soluble-capsules/dp/B000AMXR7Q (for more $ if you include shipping!)

I'm SO EXCITED for it to arrive! Now I don't have to be stingy with the remaining pills in my PGX bottle and I'm going to open a couple of them and dump them into my next smoothie to see what happens!

THANKS AGAIN! (sorry for all of the cyber-shouting ;-)

Blessings,

Lea Ann Savage

Satellite Beach, FL

(321) 773-7088 (home)

(321-961-9219 (cell)

http://www.konjacfoods.com/product/1.htm

--- message truncated ---

May 17, 2011

I just bought some noodles for husband (the diabetic) made with Gluc

and we are going to try them tonight. Thanks for the ideas on the

powder.

Velda

On 5/17/2011 6:27 AM, Vickilynn H wrote:

Shalom!

I also use a super-concentrated powdered thickener called

"Glucomman." I add it to my protein shakes, to nut milks, even to

meat juices for instant gravy (I do not use flour) that is

gluten-free. It also makes great jelled candies and that is what

it is known for.

Gluc powder sets up immediately in cold liquids and may clump if

not whisked, or put in the VitaMix to disperse. A TINY bit goes a

long way, more than xanthan, tapioca etc. And it carries no taste.

The powder is derived from a plant (nothing added) in fact, it is

the Konjac toor, and it is used to make noodles and candy in Asia.

I add just a tiny bit to my protein shakes and it makes them thick

and creamy and not release the thickening. It thickens even more

when chilled after mixing. Start with the smallest amount

possible, let sit to thicken and add more to desired consistency.

You can read about it here:

I use it all the time and I consider it an essential for our

pantry and long-term food storage.

Hope this helps!

Vickilynn Haycraft

Micah 6:8

http://www.realfoodliving.com

http://www.blog.realfoodliving.com

http://www.examiner.com/housewares-in-national/vickilynn-haycraft

http://www.examiner.com/family-preparedness-in-national/vickilynn-haycraft

http://www.bepreparedradio.com/category/prepper-podcasts-health/get-real-get-prepared/

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Berry <berrywell@...>

wrote:

Lea Ann,

I should clarify too that the tapioca gel is

great in thicker smoothies and such, but not

so much in thin "milks"-that's where it tends

to get sticky, but flax gel does GREAT for

adding body to thinner liquids.

From: Robin <rsmallen@...>

Subject:

Smoothie Advice

for Honey Thick

Liquid Diet

Date: Tuesday, May

17, 2011, 8:01 AM

Looking for

some advice on

making

smoothies for

my husband who

has dysphagia.

He is able to

eat pureed

solid foods

and liquids

thickened to

honey

thickness

only. He may

be upgraded to

nectar thick

liquids later

this week

dependent on

his MBS study.

My VitaMix

arrives today!

I want to take

protein rich

smoothies to

him in the

rehab hospital

which they've

said is

fine...as long

as none of the

ingredients

are such that

they melt in

the mouth to a

thin liquid

consistency.

Examples would

be ice

cream...or,

I'm guessing,

the ice in the

smoothie. If

so, I must

thicken the

smoothie with

Thickit (which

is kind of

yukky stuff if

you ask me).

Does anybody

have

experience

with this

diet? Did you

need to

thicken due to

the ice? When

you drink

these nice

thick

smoothies does

it thin down

in the mouth

due to the

ice?

Thanks for any

and all

advice!

Robin

May 17, 2011

Gee how familiar that sounds. I have been through the "you want me

to eat Brown bread instead of Wonder Bread????". Feel for you.

Velda

On 5/17/2011 7:09 AM, Lea Ann Savage wrote:

I agree about the "wanting it to be the same" concept. I don't

need for it to be the same AT ALL. It is my picky (and I mean

PICKY) kids. Just wondering if I could make it more like store

bought.

However, now I'm thinking, why not add a bit of ice and some

Konjac-Mannon powder and tell them it is a milk-SHAKE instead?

I'll be experimenting to see what I can come up with that

they will eat. You would NOT believe what my kids eat and that

they are MY offspring. To kids in my audiences, I'm the "Cool

Vitamix Lady" to MY kids, I'm the CRAZY Health-NUT MOM! ;-)

Blessings,

Lea Ann Savage

Satellite Beach, FL

(321) 773-7088 (home)

(321-961-9219 (cell)

<))><

On May 17, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Berry wrote:

That was

an issue I struggled with for some time when I

first started making "milks", Lea Ann-trying to

get it as creamy as store bought. As much as I

love tapioca, it gives a bit of a sticky texture

to milks, making them stick to your throat a

bit-MOST unpleasant! I find that adding a

couple of drops of sunflower oil makes a huge

difference-it just needs to be shaken back in

before serving. The reason the store ones are

so creamy, is that the ingredients they add are

homogonized into the product so they stay

suspended in it, BUT-that destroys the nutrition

that was in them in the first place! I

tablespoon of cooked beans works well, but

again, needed to be reincorporated before

serving-either by rebuzzing it in the Vitamix,

or a really good shaking. The MOST important

thing I discovered, is that if you get used to

your own milks, you no longer want or expect

them to have that "creaminess", but that it is

really more of a silkiness that you want-easily

accomplished with a bit of sunflower oil, or

even by adding a Vitamin E capsule (squeeze it

into the liquid, discard the gelatin cap) Flax

gel works great as a thickener.

From: Robin <rsmallen@...>

Subject:

Smoothie Advice for

Honey Thick Liquid

Diet

Date: Tuesday, May 17,

2011, 8:01 AM

Looking for

some advice on

making smoothies

for my husband

who has

dysphagia. He is

able to eat

pureed solid

foods and

liquids

thickened to

honey thickness

only. He may be

upgraded to

nectar thick

liquids later

this week

dependent on his

MBS study. My

VitaMix arrives

today!

I want to take

protein rich

smoothies to him

in the rehab

hospital which

they've said is

fine...as long

as none of the

ingredients are

such that they

melt in the

mouth to a thin

liquid

consistency.

Examples would

be ice

cream...or, I'm

guessing, the

ice in the

smoothie. If so,

I must thicken

the smoothie

with Thickit

(which is kind

of yukky stuff

if you ask me).

Does anybody

have experience

with this diet?

Did you need to

thicken due to

the ice? When

you drink these

nice thick

smoothies does

it thin down in

the mouth due to

the ice?

Thanks for any

and all advice!

Robin

May 17, 2011

Add to my difficulties in that my son is ADHD, Bipolar, OCD, and

several more. When he was young he ate almost anything I put in

front of him (except mushrooms) but when he turned teen, (and

changed meds) he began to totally dislike almost all veggies (he

will eat raw carrots and celery once in a while and a lettuce with

dressing salad as long as I don't put tomatoes or other "weird"stuff

in it). He often makes his own dinner because he does not like what

I fix. I made brown rice last night because I was out of spaghetti

and had marinara sauce and meatballs from Costco. He refused to put

tomato sauce over rice, so ate meatballs over rice with orange sauce

(full of sugar) from Costco. Refused the coleslaw I made, though

sometimes he will eat that. These days I make an effort to make food

he will eat a few days of the week and let him fix his own (often

mac and cheese or pizza) the rest because if I don't let him eat a

meal of what he wants, after we go to bed he will eat all sorts of

strange stuff which are things I have bought for use in small

amounts in stuff, such as an entire large jar of peanut butter, or a

entire bag of marshmallows or chocolate chips or a entire month

supply of corn chips I have purchased for my husbands lunches

(husband weighs out his carb portion). I thought picky eaters grew

out of it, but some don't. He outright refuses the fruit and veg

smoothies, won't even taste them. I realize some of the problems are

the meds, but not much I can do but try.

Velda

On 5/17/2011 10:40 AM, Lea Ann Savage wrote:

Oi Vey!

Blessings,

Lea Ann Savage

Satellite Beach, FL

(321) 773-7088 (home)

(321-961-9219 (cell)

<))><

On May 17, 2011, at 1:38 PM, <solomon@...>

wrote:

He sounds related to my son who prefers mac and cheese

or chicken tenders or pizza over all else. My son is 31.

Velda

-----Original Message-----

From: Lea Ann Savage <lsavage@...>

Subj: Re: Thickening Home Made

Almond Milk - was - Smoothie Advice for Honey Thick

Liquid Diet

Date: Tue May 17, 2011 7:58 am

Size: 2K

Surprisingly he does NOT like chocolate or milk! He only

like Wheat Breads (in any form) and Chicken Tenders

(must be coated). Seriously, I've thought about taking

him on a vacation somewhere that I can completely

control his diet 24/7 and detox him and after 2-3 days

of starvation (self-imposed due to not liking healthy

food) he'd have to come around and finally eat some…

Blessings,

Lea Ann Savage

Satellite Beach, FL

(321) 773-7088 (home)

(321-961-9219 (cell)

<))><

On May 17, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Berry wrote:

Does he like chocolate milk? If so, just add some

chocolate and a bit of the powder to some almond milk

and add chocolate (or vanilla extract) I melt a bit of

homemade chocolate (or Enjoy Life chocolate chips) and

add them to almond milk for my daughter-she loves it!

She HATES nuts, but doesn't mind drinking almond milk

flavored this way.

AMAZING! and THANK YOU!!! THIS IS THE MAIN INGREDIENT in

the PGX supplement that I take!!! I just bought some

from the link you provided (for $25 including shipping)

and that bag is what 10? 20? times the amount that I get

in one bottle of this: http://www.amazon.com/Natural-Factors-Wellbetx-Soluble-capsules/dp/B000AMXR7Q

(for more $ if you include shipping!)

I'm SO EXCITED for it to arrive! Now I don't have to be

stingy with the remaining pills in my PGX bottle and I'm

going to open a couple of them and dump them into my

next smoothie to see what happens!

THANKS AGAIN! (sorry for all of the cyber-shouting ;-)

Blessings,

Lea Ann Savage

Satellite Beach, FL

(321) 773-7088 (home)

(321-961-9219 (cell)

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May 17, 2011

You're not alone, Lea Ann. I have one daughter who ate only cheese and bread for a good year. Prior to this she was found to be allergic to over fifty foods. So she gravitated to the cheese and bread diet as it was the only thing that didn't upset her stomach. Another daughter will eat what I make and say it's "OK," but that she wouldn't make it for herself if given a choice. My children all followed their dad's eating habits, not their health nut mom! ;-)MarthaFrom: Lea Ann Savage

<lsavage@...> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:48 PMSubject: Re: Thickening Home Made Almond Milk - was - Smoothie Advice for Honey Thick Liquid Diet

This is a good idea . To be honest, I'd given up. I used to fight and fight to get veggies and fruits into them, but it's 3 on one (and sometimes Dad brings crap into the house so there was even that to contend with). But My oldest and youngest Want to please Mom and will at times eat veggies to get me off of their back.My middle son has lots of issues. I bet that if he were getting better supplements he'd do better all around. It is a real battle to get him to take supplements too however. Not that he can't swallow them, just that he always says "later" then conveniently "forgets"â€¦

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On May 17, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Berry wrote:

Have you considered a vitamin deficiency? Carb cravings are usually a sign of low B complex and minerals. Have you had his blood sugar tested on a regular basis? Might be worth looking into.

From: Robin <rsmallen@...>Subject: Smoothie Advice for Honey Thick Liquid Diet

Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 8:01 AM

Looking for some advice on making smoothies for my husband who has dysphagia. He is able to eat pureed solid foods and liquids thickened to honey thickness only. He may be upgraded to nectar thick liquids later this week dependent on his MBS study. My VitaMix arrives today!

I want to take protein rich smoothies to him in the rehab hospital which they've said is fine...as long as none of the ingredients are such that they melt in the mouth to a thin liquid consistency. Examples would be ice cream...or, I'm guessing, the ice in the smoothie. If so, I must thicken the smoothie with Thickit (which is kind of yukky stuff if you ask me).

Does anybody have experience with this diet? Did you need to thicken due to the ice? When you drink these nice thick smoothies does it thin down in the mouth due to the ice?

Thanks for any and all advice!

Robin

May 17, 2011

I'd really, REALLY prefer that you kindly keep any mac-and-cheese

bashing to yourself.

(I probably shouldn't admit this but I don't love it as much as I used

to...probably due to the cheese component of our weekly wine-and-cheese

parties.)

Re: Thickening Home Made Almond Milk -

was - Smoothie Advice for Honey Thick Liquid Diet

He sounds related to my son who prefers mac and cheese or chicken

tenders or pizza over all else. My son is 31.

Velda

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From: Lea Ann Savage & lt;lsavage@... & gt;

Subj: Re: Thickening Home Made Almond Milk - was

- Smoothie Advice for Honey Thick Liquid Diet

Date: Tue May 17, 2011 7:58 am

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Surprisingly he does NOT like chocolate or milk! He only like Wheat

Breads (in any form) and Chicken Tenders (must be coated). Seriously,

I've thought about taking him on a vacation somewhere that I can

completely control his diet 24/7 and detox him and after 2-3 days of

starvation (self-imposed due to not liking healthy food) he'd have to

come around and finally eat someâ€¦

Blessings,

Lea Ann Savage

Satellite Beach, FL

(321) 773-7088 (home)

(321-961-9219 (cell)