Guest guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 , congratulation on the birth of your precious baby boy. I love seeing that transformation from fear to love. I wish more people could know it. As far as physical features, my experience with Ciarra has been a lot like yours. She has long limbs, long fingers, a delicate and long neck, her ears are set in the usual place, no simian creases. She has great tone, speaks quite well, and keeps up extremely well with her classmates academically, socially, and physically. She has the beautifully shaped eyes, and incredibly prominent Brushfields spots. She also has the sandal toe, which is so cute, in our opinion. I have gone back and forth in wondering if she had Mosaic DS. Most of her Doctors have suggested we test her for it, and more than a few parents have asked if she did too. I even joined the MDS site to just read and see what the big difference was. From what I discovered, there really isn't much. Many people with diagnosed MDS actually have a harder time with certain areas than Ciarra does. Some kids with reg old T21 have an easier time. It really seems to me that it is the luck of the draw, plus the acceptance and willingness to work of the family. ANY child that is born into a family that doesn't take time to teach them will struggle, and any child born to a family who adores them as you do will thrive. Of course, medical issues can complicate DS, we have been so lucky there. Really, it is a big combination of things that make variability in DS happen. ' best chance to be everything he can be started the day you fell in love with him. in Maine, Mom to Ciarra, who will be 9 on Wed. (CRAZY!) - Born June 18th, 2007 - Just brought him home Hello to everyone - - I haven't posted here yet - but have been watching, reading since about January when I found out the baby I was carrying would (does) have Trisomy 21 (confirmed via Amnio) we were absolutely devastated and it took quite a while before I could bring up the courage to really start reading about it and really reading everyone's stories (both good and bad) I want to thank everyone here for all their personal story sharing as it has been a tremendous help to me to know there are such great support groups out there and that I " m not alone -- we feel so blessed to have with us now - - *we came home Friday* - and are truly kicking ourselves in the rear end for even THINKING we had a 'choice' to not bring him into this world, as the doctors constantly reminded us. It makes me cry to even think I could have thought that. But anyway - - I do now have a couple questions as we have been watching our new son for a few days - - - the nurses all said he has the 'markers' - so I asked one out of curiousity what she was seeing as his markers - she said definately his eyes - which I do agree - they are a bit almond and closer set - - but she said except for the simian crease that was about it - - the crease though is ONLY on his left hand! Is this an oddity? so far we can't see any other external markers - - will others become more pronounced as he is growing? Is there any reason to believe that with the fewer markers, that possibly he may have mosaic? we will be doing his genetic testing shortly as well as get him going with getting an assigned EI counselor - again I want to thank you all for your sharing as it has helped me prepare so much better than reading text books. Kindly Dekom Long Island , NY julz_5 (DOT) <mailto:julz_5%40> com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 , Congrats, little boys are great, ds or not. As for the MDS, you mentioned you had amino already. I believe, or at least they did when I had my amino they look at like 15 cells or something, this is how they would know if he had classic trisomy 21 at all. I thought that with MDS that it would only be in some of the cells but not all since it does not begin in the first cell...someone correct me if this isn't the case. As far as the markers go, from what I have read they will say that only 40% have this or 40% have that as with the simian crease, toe, heart etc. Generally the eyes seem to be what catches my attention. My son is 13 and so far he is normal for his height etc where alot of the kids seem to be short in stature. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 Isn't it sorta funyt too, that we, as parents don't " see " it, but others know it...lol My mom feels the need to tell people that Myah has DS, and people will say, I know. She laughs about it all the time because she just doesn't see it. We have to remember that even though our kids have DS and may have certain characteristics, they still look like their parents. Everyone says how much Myah looks like me when I was a child. When Myah was a baby a lot of people didn't know and I think that was mainly because in my small town there aren't a lot of people with DS and people just didn't have the exposure. Regardless of who knows, who doesn't, and so on, she's a little cutie and we love her. You feel the same, I'm sure. , mom to Myah 6.5 DS, Shianne 2, and baby due in 33 days! Re: - Born June 18th, 2007 - Just brought him home , Congrats, little boys are great, ds or not. As for the MDS, you mentioned you had amino already. I believe, or at least they did when I had my amino they look at like 15 cells or something, this is how they would know if he had classic trisomy 21 at all. I thought that with MDS that it would only be in some of the cells but not all since it does not begin in the first cell...someone correct me if this isn't the case. As far as the markers go, from what I have read they will say that only 40% have this or 40% have that as with the simian crease, toe, heart etc. Generally the eyes seem to be what catches my attention. My son is 13 and so far he is normal for his height etc where alot of the kids seem to be short in stature. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 I was thinking the same thing. I never thought looked like a DS child at all when he was little. He was just himself. But a few years later when we looked at pictures, I could hardly believe that was him!!! We look with eyes of love and it doesn't matter. At the same time I can see a person with DS walking down a hall ahead of me, or something similar, and I can see it right away. I couldn't tell you how though. You are probably the same. I also remember one day when he was in preschool, parents were lined up waiting for all the kids to come out, and I thought how lucky I was.. The others were just waiting for regular kids but I was getting RUSSELL. At that time he was the only child in school with DS. I have always felt SO lucky to have him. Still do. Jessie ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 hey I'm going to be in suffolk county in the summer. My friend lives in Selden. Other friend lives in Massapequa. Love Allyson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Wow, I just approved your pictures and was tickled to see a 3D ultrasound picture included. I love seeing those! It's amazing what technology is available today. Take lots of pictures because he's going to grow up so fast! > > Hello to everyone - - I haven't posted here yet - but have been > watching, reading since about January when I found out the baby I was > carrying would (does) have Trisomy 21 (confirmed via Amnio) > we were absolutely devastated and it took quite a while before I could > bring up the courage to really start reading about it and really > reading everyone's stories (both good and bad) > I want to thank everyone here for all their personal story sharing as > it has been a tremendous help to me to know there are such great > support groups out there and that I " m not alone -- > > we feel so blessed to have with us now - - *we came home > Friday* - and are truly kicking ourselves in the rear end for even > THINKING we had a 'choice' to not bring him into this world, as the > doctors constantly reminded us. It makes me cry to even think I could > have thought that. > > But anyway - - I do now have a couple questions as we have been > watching our new son for a few days - - - > the nurses all said he has the 'markers' - so I asked one out of > curiousity what she was seeing as his markers - > she said definately his eyes - which I do agree - they are a bit > almond and closer set - - but she said except for the simian crease > that was about it - - the crease though is ONLY on his left hand! > Is this an oddity? > > so far we can't see any other external markers - - > will others become more pronounced as he is growing? > > Is there any reason to believe that with the fewer markers, that > possibly he may have mosaic? > > we will be doing his genetic testing shortly as well as get him going > with getting an assigned EI counselor - > > again I want to thank you all for your sharing as it has helped me > prepare so much better than reading text books. > > Kindly > Dekom > Long Island , NY > julz_5@... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Congrats on your new baby boy.... enjoy these cuddly moments as he will grow up so fast! Whomever read the amnio cells would have counted more than one cell to confirm 100% T21 (or would have suggested mosaic), so if they told just plain 'ol Trisomy 21, it's probably just that. In any case, there isn't as much " predictability " as one might think.... I know once I found out about mosiac I hoped that had that becuase I thought it meant she would be " less affected " , but from what I've learned, this isn't necessarily true. (She has the most common, Trisomy 21, Down's Syndrome). As for " markers " , as a parent, I see them more in photographs than in real life. I didn't notice so many " Down's-like " characteristics when was a baby (and still don't, LOL), but when I look at baby pictures, I see things I never noticed when I held my beautiful baby. She has one palm with the crease, but not the other, and the same with her feet (whatever the marker was, it was only on one foot). Interestingly, when we were at the pediatrician's office at about 1 month old, and the ped mentioned the single crease, my DH kept looking at his hand and saying " I don't see the difference " . Well, upon examining HIS hand, we found he also has a single crease (which happens in about 2% of the genetically normal population)... it explained why he didn't see the crease marker! I thought he was just in denial!!! is 9 1/2, and doing very well. She's fully included in 3rd (oops, we're on to 4th) grade, speaks clearly, reads well, does math at about a mid-2nd grade level, and is a real comic that keeps us smiling. She's sweet and kind, but watch out if you are breaking a rule.... she's brutal on rule-breakers (especially when it's her little sister, LOL) She's in Girl Scouts and goes to Sunday school with her peers. She's a computer wizzard, and somehow has managed to go around my security software to continue downloading trial versions of games from nickjr.com... I think it's just persistance, since I doubt she can hack the software, but it's pretty funny in any case. She asked for my credit card the other day (you only get 15 minutes trial game, and then you need to pay to continue), so I need to keep THOSE locked up! We frequently get " Oh, she must have mild DS " or " Oh, just has a little " from people. In the beginning, I tried to educate people and tell them that people with DS had a range of skills and abilities, just like the typical population, etc. etc. etc., and there was no " partial " (choosing NOT to go into mosiacism in a casual conversation), how early intervention had improved the lives of people with DS, etc. etc. and that she DID have DS.... it was like, they wanted us to feel better that she " didn't have it so bad " , but it was slightly irritating. Now I look at it more as a complement to 's abilities, but it's amazing how much of the general public believes you can get " a little " DS. Enjoy your journey with ... delight in the milestones he reaches near his typical peers, and realize that the ones he's a bit late on.... he will get there, just on his own time. It's hard when " What to Expect The First Year " is still sitting around at 18 months :-) but know that for most of his life, there won't be a " scorecard " of developmental milestones like there seems to be for babies! Watching run her race in the 2nd/3rd grade Field Day, it was hard to believe we waited so long for her to walk! She finished last in her heat, but enjoyed the success in finishing the race, and several friends commented how great her running form was (and it's getting pretty good, if I do say so myself!) I was also able to watch her 2nd grade sister win her race, ending up to be the fastest 2nd grade girl, and that was thrilling too, which in the early years, I wondered if I could enjoy Sammy's successes, knowing that she would at some point " pass up " her big sister. It's happening more and more, and yet I notice it less and less... they are such individuals, there is no comparison! Anyway, enough rambling for tonight. Welcome, and contrats again on your precious baby boy. , mom to (11), (9 DS), and Sammy (7) julz_5 wrote: > Hello to everyone - - I haven't posted here yet - but have been > watching, reading since about January when I found out the baby I was > carrying would (does) have Trisomy 21 (confirmed via Amnio) > we were absolutely devastated and it took quite a while before I could > bring up the courage to really start reading about it and really > reading everyone's stories (both good and bad) > I want to thank everyone here for all their personal story sharing as > it has been a tremendous help to me to know there are such great > support groups out there and that I " m not alone -- > > we feel so blessed to have with us now - - *we came home > Friday* - and are truly kicking ourselves in the rear end for even > THINKING we had a 'choice' to not bring him into this world, as the > doctors constantly reminded us. It makes me cry to even think I could > have thought that. > > But anyway - - I do now have a couple questions as we have been > watching our new son for a few days - - - > the nurses all said he has the 'markers' - so I asked one out of > curiousity what she was seeing as his markers - > she said definately his eyes - which I do agree - they are a bit > almond and closer set - - but she said except for the simian crease > that was about it - - the crease though is ONLY on his left hand! > Is this an oddity? > > so far we can't see any other external markers - - > will others become more pronounced as he is growing? > > Is there any reason to believe that with the fewer markers, that > possibly he may have mosaic? > > we will be doing his genetic testing shortly as well as get him going > with getting an assigned EI counselor - > > again I want to thank you all for your sharing as it has helped me > prepare so much better than reading text books. > > Kindly > Dekom > Long Island , NY > julz_5@... <mailto:julz_5%40> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Congrats on your new baby boy.... enjoy these cuddly moments as he will grow up so fast! Whomever read the amnio cells would have counted more than one cell to confirm 100% T21 (or would have suggested mosaic), so if they told just plain 'ol Trisomy 21, it's probably just that. In any case, there isn't as much " predictability " as one might think.... I know once I found out about mosiac I hoped that had that becuase I thought it meant she would be " less affected " , but from what I've learned, this isn't necessarily true. (She has the most common, Trisomy 21, Down's Syndrome). As for " markers " , as a parent, I see them more in photographs than in real life. I didn't notice so many " Down's-like " characteristics when was a baby (and still don't, LOL), but when I look at baby pictures, I see things I never noticed when I held my beautiful baby. She has one palm with the crease, but not the other, and the same with her feet (whatever the marker was, it was only on one foot). Interestingly, when we were at the pediatrician's office at about 1 month old, and the ped mentioned the single crease, my DH kept looking at his hand and saying " I don't see the difference " . Well, upon examining HIS hand, we found he also has a single crease (which happens in about 2% of the genetically normal population)... it explained why he didn't see the crease marker! I thought he was just in denial!!! is 9 1/2, and doing very well. She's fully included in 3rd (oops, we're on to 4th) grade, speaks clearly, reads well, does math at about a mid-2nd grade level, and is a real comic that keeps us smiling. She's sweet and kind, but watch out if you are breaking a rule.... she's brutal on rule-breakers (especially when it's her little sister, LOL) She's in Girl Scouts and goes to Sunday school with her peers. She's a computer wizzard, and somehow has managed to go around my security software to continue downloading trial versions of games from nickjr.com... I think it's just persistance, since I doubt she can hack the software, but it's pretty funny in any case. She asked for my credit card the other day (you only get 15 minutes trial game, and then you need to pay to continue), so I need to keep THOSE locked up! We frequently get " Oh, she must have mild DS " or " Oh, just has a little " from people. In the beginning, I tried to educate people and tell them that people with DS had a range of skills and abilities, just like the typical population, etc. etc. etc., and there was no " partial " (choosing NOT to go into mosiacism in a casual conversation), how early intervention had improved the lives of people with DS, etc. etc. and that she DID have DS.... it was like, they wanted us to feel better that she " didn't have it so bad " , but it was slightly irritating. Now I look at it more as a complement to 's abilities, but it's amazing how much of the general public believes you can get " a little " DS. Enjoy your journey with ... delight in the milestones he reaches near his typical peers, and realize that the ones he's a bit late on.... he will get there, just on his own time. It's hard when " What to Expect The First Year " is still sitting around at 18 months :-) but know that for most of his life, there won't be a " scorecard " of developmental milestones like there seems to be for babies! Watching run her race in the 2nd/3rd grade Field Day, it was hard to believe we waited so long for her to walk! She finished last in her heat, but enjoyed the success in finishing the race, and several friends commented how great her running form was (and it's getting pretty good, if I do say so myself!) I was also able to watch her 2nd grade sister win her race, ending up to be the fastest 2nd grade girl, and that was thrilling too, which in the early years, I wondered if I could enjoy Sammy's successes, knowing that she would at some point " pass up " her big sister. It's happening more and more, and yet I notice it less and less... they are such individuals, there is no comparison! Anyway, enough rambling for tonight. Welcome, and contrats again on your precious baby boy. , mom to (11), (9 DS), and Sammy (7) julz_5 wrote: > Hello to everyone - - I haven't posted here yet - but have been > watching, reading since about January when I found out the baby I was > carrying would (does) have Trisomy 21 (confirmed via Amnio) > we were absolutely devastated and it took quite a while before I could > bring up the courage to really start reading about it and really > reading everyone's stories (both good and bad) > I want to thank everyone here for all their personal story sharing as > it has been a tremendous help to me to know there are such great > support groups out there and that I " m not alone -- > > we feel so blessed to have with us now - - *we came home > Friday* - and are truly kicking ourselves in the rear end for even > THINKING we had a 'choice' to not bring him into this world, as the > doctors constantly reminded us. It makes me cry to even think I could > have thought that. > > But anyway - - I do now have a couple questions as we have been > watching our new son for a few days - - - > the nurses all said he has the 'markers' - so I asked one out of > curiousity what she was seeing as his markers - > she said definately his eyes - which I do agree - they are a bit > almond and closer set - - but she said except for the simian crease > that was about it - - the crease though is ONLY on his left hand! > Is this an oddity? > > so far we can't see any other external markers - - > will others become more pronounced as he is growing? > > Is there any reason to believe that with the fewer markers, that > possibly he may have mosaic? > > we will be doing his genetic testing shortly as well as get him going > with getting an assigned EI counselor - > > again I want to thank you all for your sharing as it has helped me > prepare so much better than reading text books. > > Kindly > Dekom > Long Island , NY > julz_5@... <mailto:julz_5%40> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Well, upon examining HIS hand, we found he also has a single crease (which happens > in about 2% of the genetically normal population)... it explained why he > didn't see the crease marker! I thought he was just in denial!!! Very interesting. My husband has the single crease on both hands (I wonder what % of the genetically normal pop. have both?). He kept showing the doctors after Ben was born, but they weren't really listening. Probably thought we were in denial. We were for the first day. After visiting Ben in the NICU a few times, and seeing his eyes and the extra skin at the nape of his neck, I looked at hubby and said, " He definitely has DS " . He wasn't convinced, yet. The results from the genetic testing cleared up all doubt. Anyway, I wanted to thank you, . When you shared about people who think you can have just " a little " DS, it hit home. I, too, have ran into oodles of people who think the same...and have been very irritated, thinking I have to educate them all. You gave me new perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Amelia has one hand with the single crease. My son, who is typical (or so they tell me) has the single crease on both hands as does his father. In my family only 25% of us have the double crease. Go figure. Ann (mother to Amelia 7,ds and Jake 5) --------------------------------- You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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