(OT)Norwalk users: what's the difference?

[Guest guest]

This might be a little off topic, but I was curious about what the Norwalk

juicer is that I keep hearing about so just watched a video on youtube. If I'm

correct in my description, it grinds up the produce into a pulp that you then

place in a nut bag that it squeezes the heck out which produces strained juice.

I'm wondering, what is the difference between that and grinding up the produce

in the Vitamix and straining it by hand? Obviously you wouldn't be able to

strain out as much, but is there any other advantages? -Amber

[Guest guest]

I think it's easier to do it in the Norwalk and the pressing media are of a finer weave than nut milk bags. Also, as you mentioned, you can't compare what's expressed by a one-ton hydraulic pump to doing it by hand.

The Norwalk does other things too, e.g., making nut butter, chopping, and grinding grains and coffee.

(OT)Norwalk users: what's the difference?

This might be a little off topic, but I was curious about what the Norwalk juicer is that I keep hearing about so just watched a video on youtube. If I'm correct in my description, it grinds up the produce into a pulp that you then place in a nut bag that it squeezes the heck out which produces strained juice.

I'm wondering, what is the difference between that and grinding up the produce in the Vitamix and straining it by hand? Obviously you wouldn't be able to strain out as much, but is there any other advantages? -Amber

[Guest guest]

If my life depended on it, I would go with the Norwalk. They have used dozens of

other juicers and grinders and compared the juice on a molecular level and have

found huge differences. So even though the end product looks the same to our

eye, it may be missing vital phytonutrients and enzymes that were destroyed in

the processing.

Gerson's Institute has on a few occasions tried other similar juicers and always

went back to the Norwalk because they do not get the results in the patients

there with the others that they get with the Norwalk.

It's also much easier with the Norwalk because the bags attach to the outspout.

As soon as it grinds it goes directly in the special bag which can be pressed.

If you used another press like the People's Press and a nutbag you would have

sprayed juice all over the room where it would squirt out the holes that are too

big.

You can get a champion and take the juicing screen out. It will then grind the

food. Then buy some Norwalk bags (4 for $16) and use them in the People's Press.

It comes to about $650 instead of $2500. Tests showed only one enzyme missing

consistently from that juice that was in the Norwalk juice. All other juicers

had a lot missing.

If I had cancer, I'd get the Norwalk. Otherwise, I'd stick with the Vitamix or

the Champion and People's Press.

Hope that helps!

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> This might be a little off topic, but I was curious about what the Norwalk

juicer is that I keep hearing about so just watched a video on youtube. If I'm

correct in my description, it grinds up the produce into a pulp that you then

place in a nut bag that it squeezes the heck out which produces strained juice.

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> I'm wondering, what is the difference between that and grinding up the produce

in the Vitamix and straining it by hand? Obviously you wouldn't be able to

strain out as much, but is there any other advantages? -Amber

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[Guest guest]

I've found that the cloths work best for me--for some reason, it's just faster for me to grind up everything into a big container and then fill and press cloths. I'm quite the little assembly line once I hit my groove!

Actually, I wouldn't even bother with the blank if I were using the Champion; I'd just juice, then press the pulp and add the results to the juice. I've never found Champion juice to be pulpy (I HATE pulp) so just adding pressed juice to what's already done would work for me. The only downside is that the Champion really doesn't do leafy greens and grasses by themselves and the Norwalk does (although you need to be grinding a LOT of grass in order for it to be effective). My Norwalk goes through greens like nobody's business with the juicing grid (although I use #3 for pretty much everything else).

Re: (OT)Norwalk users: what's the difference?

If my life depended on it, I would go with the Norwalk. They have used dozens of other juicers and grinders and compared the juice on a molecular level and have found huge differences. So even though the end product looks the same to our eye, it may be missing vital phytonutrients and enzymes that were destroyed in the processing.

Gerson's Institute has on a few occasions tried other similar juicers and always went back to the Norwalk because they do not get the results in the patients there with the others that they get with the Norwalk.

It's also much easier with the Norwalk because the bags attach to the outspout. As soon as it grinds it goes directly in the special bag which can be pressed. If you used another press like the People's Press and a nutbag you would have sprayed juice all over the room where it would squirt out the holes that are too big.

You can get a champion and take the juicing screen out. It will then grind the food. Then buy some Norwalk bags (4 for $16) and use them in the People's Press. It comes to about $650 instead of $2500. Tests showed only one enzyme missing consistently from that juice that was in the Norwalk juice. All other juicers had a lot missing.

If I had cancer, I'd get the Norwalk. Otherwise, I'd stick with the Vitamix or the Champion and People's Press.

Hope that helps!

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> This might be a little off topic, but I was curious about what the Norwalk juicer is that I keep hearing about so just watched a video on youtube. If I'm correct in my description, it grinds up the produce into a pulp that you then place in a nut bag that it squeezes the heck out which produces strained juice.

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> I'm wondering, what is the difference between that and grinding up the produce in the Vitamix and straining it by hand? Obviously you wouldn't be able to strain out as much, but is there any other advantages? -Amber

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[Guest guest]

Amber, our is the lucky owner of a Norwalk, so I am sure she will respond, but trust me when I say-using the VM then trying to strain it won't work as effectively as the Norwalk (which I covet-I am secretly stalking waiting for just the right moment to abscond with hers) I made a "ghetto Norwalk" by trying to use a tortilla press to strain the veggies through a nutmilk bag after buzzing them up in the VM. I did get a substantial amount of juice, but I also made one heck of a mess, lol. If you are not overly obsessive about juicing (such as and I are), this method could probably actually fill the bill, but if you are wanting to do really serious juicing, the Norwalk has it nailed.From: berlinsmith <berlinsmith@...>Subject: (OT)Norwalk users: what's the difference? Date: Sunday, April 17, 2011, 12:33 PM

This might be a little off topic, but I was curious about what the Norwalk juicer is that I keep hearing about so just watched a video on youtube. If I'm correct in my description, it grinds up the produce into a pulp that you then place in a nut bag that it squeezes the heck out which produces strained juice.

I'm wondering, what is the difference between that and grinding up the produce in the Vitamix and straining it by hand? Obviously you wouldn't be able to strain out as much, but is there any other advantages? -Amber

[Guest guest]

Oh, indeed they do and I think Deborah would agree with me on this (don't we have some other owners on the list as well). In fact, we had a Vitamix demo in a Whole Foods near me and I gave the demonstrator (his name is Will) some Norwalk juice to try. He said he'd never had juice like that.

Good luck trying to abscond, tootsie! The machine weighs about 65 lbs. assembled. You'll just have to wait until I hit the lottery.

(OT)Norwalk users: what's the difference?

Date: Sunday, April 17, 2011, 12:33 PM

This might be a little off topic, but I was curious about what the Norwalk juicer is that I keep hearing about so just watched a video on youtube. If I'm correct in my description, it grinds up the produce into a pulp that you then place in a nut bag that it squeezes the heck out which produces strained juice.

I'm wondering, what is the difference between that and grinding up the produce in the Vitamix and straining it by hand? Obviously you wouldn't be able to strain out as much, but is there any other advantages? -Amber

[Guest guest]

I thought you might enjoy reading an e-mail that Norwalk recently received from a brand-new owner. Like our adored Vitamixes, this is why Norwalk owners are gaga over their machines and why "Made in USA" counts for something.

"I received my Norwalk Juicer today and I had to send you an email to tell you my thoughts. I have a metalworking shop full of top quality tools and equipment gathered over a 50 year span of time, and I am a master blacksmith, so I know a fine machine when I see it. I was awed when I removed the Norwalk from the box, and even more so after I put it together and viewed the video disc. I want to commend you folks for producing such a fine quality machine here in this country in a time when everything else is a cheaply made Chinese copy or clone. Thank you for your dedication to achieving the ultimate in quality, and not ever letting down on your quality control after 75 years of being in business. You are a very rare company today. I wish you and all of your staff the finest and most profitable future possible, and thank you again for providing me such a fine machine to hopefully save my life, and improve the lives of my family members."

(OT)Norwalk users: what's the difference?

This might be a little off topic, but I was curious about what the Norwalk juicer is that I keep hearing about so just watched a video on youtube. If I'm correct in my description, it grinds up the produce into a pulp that you then place in a nut bag that it squeezes the heck out which produces strained juice.

I'm wondering, what is the difference between that and grinding up the produce in the Vitamix and straining it by hand? Obviously you wouldn't be able to strain out as much, but is there any other advantages? -Amber

[Guest guest]

Awesome! I love when people take the time to give a pat where and when it is deserved! I am sure I will give a nice nod to Norwalk, if I ever get one!From: <kareningotham@...>Subject: Re: (OT)Norwalk users: what's the difference? Date: Saturday, April 23, 2011, 4:12 PM

I thought you might enjoy reading an e-mail that Norwalk recently received from a brand-new owner. Like our adored Vitamixes, this is why Norwalk owners are gaga over their machines and why "Made in USA" counts for something.

"I received my Norwalk Juicer today and I had to send you an email to tell you my thoughts. I have a metalworking shop full of top quality tools and equipment gathered over a 50 year span of time, and I am a master blacksmith, so I know a fine machine when I see it. I was awed when I removed the Norwalk from the box, and even more so after I put it together and viewed the video disc. I want to commend you folks for producing such a fine quality machine here in this country in a time when everything else is a cheaply made Chinese copy or clone. Thank you for your dedication to achieving the ultimate in quality, and not ever letting down on your quality control after 75 years of being in business. You are a very rare company today. I wish you and all of your staff the finest and most profitable future possible, and thank you again for providing me such a fine machine to hopefully save my life, and improve the lives of my family members."

(OT)Norwalk users: what's the difference?

This might be a little off topic, but I was curious about what the Norwalk juicer is that I keep hearing about so just watched a video on youtube. If I'm correct in my description, it grinds up the produce into a pulp that you then place in a nut bag that it squeezes the heck out which produces strained juice.

I'm wondering, what is the difference between that and grinding up the produce in the Vitamix and straining it by hand? Obviously you wouldn't be able to strain out as much, but is there any other advantages? -Amber

[Guest guest]

...when I win.

I have pineapple juice in the fridge that looks and tastes like honey--awesome!

(OT)Norwalk users: what's the difference?

This might be a little off topic, but I was curious about what the Norwalk juicer is that I keep hearing about so just watched a video on youtube. If I'm correct in my description, it grinds up the produce into a pulp that you then place in a nut bag that it squeezes the heck out which produces strained juice.

I'm wondering, what is the difference between that and grinding up the produce in the Vitamix and straining it by hand? Obviously you wouldn't be able to strain out as much, but is there any other advantages? -Amber

[Guest guest]

I'm the Proud owner of a Norwalk for about 20 years now...It is the best juicer

on the market...the hydraulic press when pressed downward uses 6000 lb and will

get all the juice, vitamin's and good stuff from whatever you are juicing...I

personally do not like pulp in any juice that I drink and that includes my

almond milk which I really do like...The Norwalk is the only juicer which will

keep the juice fresh with all the goodies in it up to 3 days..Earthfare has a

drink which includes coconut milk, frozen banana's, pineapple, orange juice and

green powder which is very good. I make mine at home and use all fresh

ingredients and use almond milk also.

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> I thought you might enjoy reading an e-mail that Norwalk recently received

from a brand-new owner. Like our adored Vitamixes, this is why Norwalk owners

are gaga over their machines and why " Made in USA " counts for something.

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> " I received my Norwalk Juicer today and I had to send you an email to tell you

my thoughts. I have a metalworking shop full of top quality tools and equipment

gathered over a 50 year span of time, and I am a master blacksmith, so I know a

fine machine when I see it. I was awed when I removed the Norwalk from the box,

and even more so after I put it together and viewed the video disc. I want to

commend you folks for producing such a fine quality machine here in this country

in a time when everything else is a cheaply made Chinese copy or clone. Thank

you for your dedication to achieving the ultimate in quality, and not ever

letting down on your quality control after 75 years of being in business. You

are a very rare company today. I wish you and all of your staff the finest and

most profitable future possible, and thank you again for providing me such a

fine machine to hopefully save my life, and improve the lives of my family

members. "

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>   This might be a little off

topic, but I was curious about what the Norwalk juicer is that I keep hearing

about so just watched a video on youtube. If I'm correct in my description, it

grinds up the produce into a pulp that you then place in a nut bag that it

squeezes the heck out which produces strained juice.

>

> I'm wondering, what is the difference between that and grinding up the

produce in the Vitamix and straining it by hand? Obviously you wouldn't be able

to strain out as much, but is there any other advantages? -Amber

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[Guest guest]

Always nice to find a fellow fanatic! You got yours at about the time I first became aware of its existence and vowed to own one. I could tell, even from the ad in Vegetarian Times, that it was in a class of its own (not unlike our beloved Vitamix).

I have news for you: I can keep any juice but green good for a week. I just put it up in Mason jars filled almost to the top (leaves very little air space) and the last jar is just as delicious as the first. That's one of the advantages of the Norwalk--juicing is a lot of work but it's pretty painless if you can make it in advance. Nothing keeps as well as Norwalk juice.

BTW, Carol (the president) told me to use the #3 grid for everything but greens for which the "juicing grid" should be used (it's between #s 1 and 2 in size and came out in 2009). She literally grew up in the business (her dad bought it from Norman and continued to work with him) and had to help her mom make juice when she was a kid. You'll get an even better yield and it'll be even richer! It really is like liqueur, isn't it?

(OT)Norwalk users: what's the difference?

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> Â This might be a little off topic, but I was curious about what the Norwalk juicer is that I keep hearing about so just watched a video on youtube. If I'm correct in my description, it grinds up the produce into a pulp that you then place in a nut bag that it squeezes the heck out which produces strained juice.

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> I'm wondering, what is the difference between that and grinding up the produce in the Vitamix and straining it by hand? Obviously you wouldn't be able to strain out as much, but is there any other advantages? -Amber

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[Guest guest]

..thanks for the infor about the grid...I have the new ones as I had moved and couldn’t find mine..so had to order them again...one thing though the bags they have now are not as good as the one’s that came out with my machine when I first got it...I also have a vitamix about 20 years old too. I did order the latest vitamix because I wanted to see the “stuff†mixing up and really like it.. B

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Always nice to find a fellow fanatic! You got yours at about the time I first became aware of its existence and vowed to own one. I could tell, even from the ad in Vegetarian Times, that it was in a class of its own (not unlike our beloved Vitamix).I have news for you: I can keep any juice but green good for a week. I just put it up in Mason jars filled almost to the top (leaves very little air space) and the last jar is just as delicious as the first. That's one of the advantages of the Norwalk--juicing is a lot of work but it's pretty painless if you can make it in advance. Nothing keeps as well as Norwalk juice.BTW, Carol (the president) told me to use the #3 grid for everything but greens for which the "juicing grid" should be used (it's between #s 1 and 2 in size and came out in 2009). She literally grew up in the business (her dad bought it from Norman and continued to work with him) and had to help her mom make juice when she was a kid. You'll get an even better yield and it'll be even richer! It really is like liqueur, isn't it?

(OT)Norwalk users: what's the difference?> > Â This might be a little off topic, but I was curious about what the Norwalk juicer is that I keep hearing about so just watched a video on youtube. If I'm correct in my description, it grinds up the produce into a pulp that you then place in a nut bag that it squeezes the heck out which produces strained juice. > > I'm wondering, what is the difference between that and grinding up the produce in the Vitamix and straining it by hand? Obviously you wouldn't be able to strain out as much, but is there any other advantages? -Amber>

[Guest guest]

That's interesting about the bags; I know they laser-finish the seams now but other than that, I wasn't aware that they were that much different. I actually prefer to use the cloths--for some reason, that's what's faster for me.

If you go to the Norwalk Web site, check out my comments about doubles on two or three of the grids--swapping them out and tossing them into water makes things go lots faster, cooler, and with less risk of seepage occurring behind the housing because of clogged grids. It's $10 - $15 well spent.

(OT)Norwalk users: what's the difference?

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> Â This might be a little off topic, but I was curious about what the Norwalk juicer is that I keep hearing about so just watched a video on youtube. If I'm correct in my description, it grinds up the produce into a pulp that you then place in a nut bag that it squeezes the heck out which produces strained juice.

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> I'm wondering, what is the difference between that and grinding up the produce in the Vitamix and straining it by hand? Obviously you wouldn't be able to strain out as much, but is there any other advantages? -Amber

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