Guest guest Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 Get the written illness policy for the district. Also, have your doctor write a letter describing what is normal for Nicky. If he isn't running a fever, nauseated, or having abdominal cramping, he should be okay to stay at school. Sharon H. Mom to , (15, DS) and , (11) South Carolina " Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. " Sent home from school Nicky is 4 and in a special needs class at a nearby elementary school (not our home school). Nicky tends to have soft or runny B.M.s. About a month ago, I got a call from the nurse asking me to come get him because he had diarrhea. I came and got him, but he didn't have another B.M. so I sent him to school the next day. Last Thursday, I got a call that Nicky had diarrhea and I should come get him. I did, and the nurse told me I had to keep him home for 24 hours. Now, in my opinion what he had was a pretty typical Nicky BM. But it escaped from his pull up and was in his pants (probably TMI, but that's how I knew it was " normal " consistency.) And the reason it escaped was because they don't change him enough. When I went to take him Friday morning I was told the nurse said he couldn't come to school. I'm afraid if they start applying the 24 hour rule he won't be able to go to school much at all. I've also had calls about runny noses, when he's been acting just fine. Any, suggestions? I've been thinking of asking to see the written illness policy because I suspect that there isn't one. We've never been given anything. Anne mom to Nicky who'll probably be sent home because he sounds congested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 Anne, Have Nicky's ped write a note stating that he has soft/runny BMs and it is not a reason to send him home. Also, have the ped explain that children with DS can typically present congested and not be sick due to their low muscle tone, small drainage tubes, etc. My son was getting sent home frequently due to their fear of pink eye. I tried explaining that since he only has 1 tear duct in each eye his eyes get matted everytime he gets the least bit stuffy. The school nurse ignored me. Then last year, I sent DH (who just happens to be a nurse and had just gotten off work so still in his uniform) to explain the facts of life to the school nurse. No more sending the kid home for nothing. I did ask the doctor the next time we were in to reiterate in writing the various things Nick may present with that aren't contagious and do not require having him sent home. Good luck! Cari Sent home from school Nicky is 4 and in a special needs class at a nearby elementary school (not our home school). Nicky tends to have soft or runny B.M.s. About a month ago, I got a call from the nurse asking me to come get him because he had diarrhea. I came and got him, but he didn't have another B.M. so I sent him to school the next day. Last Thursday, I got a call that Nicky had diarrhea and I should come get him. I did, and the nurse told me I had to keep him home for 24 hours. Now, in my opinion what he had was a pretty typical Nicky BM. But it escaped from his pull up and was in his pants (probably TMI, but that's how I knew it was " normal " consistency.) And the reason it escaped was because they don't change him enough. When I went to take him Friday morning I was told the nurse said he couldn't come to school. I'm afraid if they start applying the 24 hour rule he won't be able to go to school much at all. I've also had calls about runny noses, when he's been acting just fine. Any, suggestions? I've been thinking of asking to see the written illness policy because I suspect that there isn't one. We've never been given anything. Anne mom to Nicky who'll probably be sent home because he sounds congested. ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 We had a similar problem earlier this year (and has been at this school since kinder.... 3+ years now, so they should know her!). " Fell asleep in class, come get her, she must be sick. " " Coughing (from crud dripping down her throat for a month after a head cold..... nothing new), come get her. " " Says she doesn't feel good, come get her " etc. etc. etc. Asked them if anyone thought that might be wise to the system and manipulating them??????????? Did she ever act sick when I brought her home? We math so boring that she fell asleep? Like a mom with 26+ parent-years can't tell when my kid is sick, LOL, but a " health assistant " (no medical training, and can't do more than take temps and dispense bandaids) can tell just based on input from that child's aide? Anyway, after about 4 calls in 2 weeks (plus having to keep her home an extra day for the 24 hour rule.... don't remember which one she allegedly violated, LOL), I took her to the ped, and brought the following letter. She signed it, stamped it with the office info, and I sent in with this letter for teacher, health office, principal, etc. We have had no more " questionable " calls from the health office since. It does not go into a whole lot of detail, but rather I focused on the issues that I knew the'd be calling about. I attached this letter to one I pasted into the communication notebook, basically explaining that " as we had discussed..... not sick....... blah blah blah. " I also made it clear that if they had a question of any kind as to her health status, they should call me immediately and I would come to school to make the determination per the doctor's instructions. However, my coming to school to check her health status was in no way an automatic " she is going home. " I wrote it such that they couldn't have her sick at school, and then say " well, you didn't want us to call you " or something stupid like that. Good luck........ all kids need to stay home when they are sick, but in particular, our kids need to be at school when they are not sick! , mom to (11), (8 DS), and Sammy (7) > To Whom It May Concern: > > > > I am writing concerning my patient, Kerrigan. As you know, > has Down Syndrome. What you may not know is that people > with Down Syndrome have a variety of medical issues, including > obstructive sleep apnea, hypothyroidism, slower metabolism, and > reduced cell-mediated immunity which means they are more likely to > suffer upper respiratory infections. is generally a > healthy little girl, but when she has a respiratory illness, her > symptoms tend to be prolonged. Congestion, in addition to her > difficulty sleeping (most likely due to her sleep apnea) may make her > appear more tired during the day. Although many of 's > symptoms are perhaps irritating to those around her, there is no > reason for her to miss school unless she is ill. > > > > Symptoms of illness in are: > > Fever > > Abdominal pain > > Mucous-producing cough > > Vomiting > > > > > > Symptoms that might exhibit that do not prohibit her > attending school: > > Nasal discharge > > Non-productive, hacking cough > > Gaggy-sounding cough > > Drainage from ear tube(s), while being treated with antibiotics > > Sleepiness > > > > Sincerely, > > -------, M.D. > > > Sent home from school > > Nicky is 4 and in a special needs class at a nearby elementary school > (not our home school). Nicky tends to have soft or runny B.M.s. About > a month ago, I got a call from the nurse asking me to come get him > because he had diarrhea. I came and got him, but he didn't have > another B.M. so I sent him to school the next day. Last Thursday, I > got a call that Nicky had diarrhea and I should come get him. I did, > and the nurse told me I had to keep him home for 24 hours. Now, in my > opinion what he had was a pretty typical Nicky BM. But it escaped > from his pull up and was in his pants (probably TMI, but that's how I > knew it was " normal " consistency.) And the reason it escaped was > because they don't change him enough. When I went to take him Friday > morning I was told the nurse said he couldn't come to school. I'm > afraid if they start applying the 24 hour rule he won't be able to go > to school much at all. I've also had calls about runny noses, when > he's been acting just fine. > > Any, suggestions? I've been thinking of asking to see the written > illness policy because I suspect that there isn't one. We've never > been given anything. > > Anne mom to Nicky who'll probably be sent home because he sounds > congested. > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 In a message dated 12/10/2006 9:27:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, aedevaux@... writes: Any, suggestions? I've been thinking of asking to see the written illness policy because I suspect that there isn't one. We've never been given anything. Hi Anne, It probably is the nursery school policy. When Micah was in school they were told not to come to school if they had a runny green nose. Not to come back until a normal fever for 24 hours, etc. This is pretty standard nursery school policy. I would get a note from your pediatrician stating that the loose stools are normal for him and he is not ill. They would then have to allow him into school. Loree , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 In a message dated 12/11/2006 12:25:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, leslie-kerrigan@... writes: all kids need to stay home when they are sick, but in particular, our kids need to be at school when they are not sick! Boy you got that right especially when they have to miss so much school for all the other issues they really DO have. Opthamologists...orthopedists...allergists...etc.etc.etc. lol!!! Loree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 I would have his Doc write a note stating that this is typical of your child. Is he on any meds like lactolose? Maybe remind them. Or tell em its his anti constipation diet or what ever. As far as congestion goes it might be helpful if you have a cooperative doctor to have him or her write a letter on Down syndrome " normalities " . I do remember someone on a DS list I was on having trouble in the last year regarding being harassed about runny noses etc.. they had to have a doc write a note before they got off their back. It sounds like a load of bologna.. and your absolutely right.. if you let a pull up get wet with urine it will leak BM easier. Hopefully its just ignorance instead of some other stuff.. Keep us posted. You guys are in my prayers, Steph Sent home from school Nicky is 4 and in a special needs class at a nearby elementary school (not our home school). Nicky tends to have soft or runny B.M.s. About a month ago, I got a call from the nurse asking me to come get him because he had diarrhea. I came and got him, but he didn't have another B.M. so I sent him to school the next day. Last Thursday, I got a call that Nicky had diarrhea and I should come get him. I did, and the nurse told me I had to keep him home for 24 hours. Now, in my opinion what he had was a pretty typical Nicky BM. But it escaped from his pull up and was in his pants (probably TMI, but that's how I knew it was " normal " consistency.) And the reason it escaped was because they don't change him enough. When I went to take him Friday morning I was told the nurse said he couldn't come to school. I'm afraid if they start applying the 24 hour rule he won't be able to go to school much at all. I've also had calls about runny noses, when he's been acting just fine. Any, suggestions? I've been thinking of asking to see the written illness policy because I suspect that there isn't one. We've never been given anything. Anne mom to Nicky who'll probably be sent home because he sounds congested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 A few years ago I got a call from the school telling me to pick up Sammy. It seems that one of this kids in his class might have Fifth's disease. Now I tell you the word MIGHT was the key issue. They brought up all the kids of Sammy's class and examined them for rashes. Sammy being the hypochondriac he is, was so scared from this, he kept looking for rashes (and kept looking for weeks). They insisted because Sammy said the word rash, he therefore had Fifths disease too and we had to leave work, pick him up, take him to the doctor, yatta yatta yatta...... Oh and the worst of it was they told me that he could not come back to school unless he had a note stating he didn't have the virus. Mind you, he had no symptoms at all. It turns out not only was Sammy completely healthy, so was the initial kid who started the whole mess. The nurse they said was just being cautious. This is the same nurse who tells me every year that Sammy is hearing and sight deficient, although his eye doctor and GP disagree every year. I told the principal that, that kind of caution was called Hysteria and I advised them that scaring my child like that was not in their best interest...... and if they ever made me pull Sammy our of school for no good reason, make me pay for him to see a Doctor,get a note to say my healthy kid was healthy, and make me miss work, I was going to hold them financially responsible. This is not the answer all the time, but sometime hitting them in the wallet is the only way they will listen. Mom to Sammy, 12 DS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 I walked into my oldest (non DS) son's class and was looking around. I was thinking why isn't some of these kids at home. One was coughing so hard he was nearly bringing stuff up. Another kid had his nosing running down to his chin. This is a 3rd grade class.... I would also find out the age of the building. I met with my son's former kindy teach and she was hoping to move to a new school that is opening in the area because the dust/mold etc was driving her allergies crazy! So it could be the building!!!! B --- Loree5@... wrote: > > In a message dated 12/11/2006 12:25:08 AM Eastern > Standard Time, > leslie-kerrigan@... writes: > > all kids need to stay home when they are sick, but > in > particular, our kids need to be at school when they > are not sick! > > > > > Boy you got that right especially when they have to > miss so much school for > all the other issues they really DO have. > Opthamologists...orthopedists...allergists...etc.etc.etc. > lol!!! > > Loree > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. > Just hit reply for messages to go to the sender of > the message. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 When Nic was younger he had very poor drainage too. They would call and say he has pink eye but really, it was mucus draining from his eyes....it would also drain from his ears too.yuck, I know but I told them the sa,e thing....if he's not feverish they can't sent him home. In those days he would get a horribly runny nose from Nov to March. Now that he's older (bigger) we don't seem to have that drainage issue any more. Alos, our Dr said green mucus does not always mean infection---we had issues with that too. Di From: CMancari@... Date: 2006/12/10 Sun PM 08:44:23 CST aedevaux@..., Subject: Re: Sent home from school Anne, Have Nicky's ped write a note stating that he has soft/runny BMs and it is not a reason to send him home. Also, have the ped explain that children with DS can typically present congested and not be sick due to their low muscle tone, small drainage tubes, etc. My son was getting sent home frequently due to their fear of pink eye. I tried explaining that since he only has 1 tear duct in each eye his eyes get matted everytime he gets the least bit stuffy. The school nurse ignored me. Then last year, I sent DH (who just happens to be a nurse and had just gotten off work so still in his uniform) to explain the facts of life to the school nurse. No more sending the kid home for nothing. I did ask the doctor the next time we were in to reiterate in writing the various things Nick may present with that aren't contagious and do not require having him sent home. Good luck! Cari Sent home from school Nicky is 4 and in a special needs class at a nearby elementary school (not our home school). Nicky tends to have soft or runny B.M.s. About a month ago, I got a call from the nurse asking me to come get him because he had diarrhea. I came and got him, but he didn't have another B.M. so I sent him to school the next day. Last Thursday, I got a call that Nicky had diarrhea and I should come get him. I did, and the nurse told me I had to keep him home for 24 hours. Now, in my opinion what he had was a pretty typical Nicky BM. But it escaped from his pull up and was in his pants (probably TMI, but that's how I knew it was " normal " consistency.) And the reason it escaped was because they don't change him enough. When I went to take him Friday morning I was told the nurse said he couldn't come to school. I'm afraid if they start applying the 24 hour rule he won't be able to go to school much at all. I've also had calls about runny noses, when he's been acting just fine. Any, suggestions? I've been thinking of asking to see the written illness policy because I suspect that there isn't one. We've never been given anything. Anne mom to Nicky who'll probably be sent home because he sounds congested. ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 , Your possible Fifth's disease incident reminds me of Nick's supposed Lice incident in kindergarten. My guess the aide in the classroom super inspected him everyday. Anyhow, one morning his sitter gave him Cream of Wheat for breakfast and I guess from what she told me he wasn't in a cooperative mood at breakfast and some of it ended up on him. The sitter thought she had it all out before he went to school. I'm at work and get a phone call to come get him he as lice. I get there and Nick looks at me and says " I's got bugs! " I drive him home, scrub his head, try to wake Jeff (he's a nurse), finally get him up and we go to the health department (at that time they had to check them). The nurse there says, I can't find any. I asked her if I could have gotten them all. She says nope, writes a note saying he's clean. (Nick's got super thick dandruff at times, Jeff says it's more like ecezma, so I figure that must be what it is and write a note to that effect.) Take him to sitter's the next morning and tell her what happened and she looks at me and says, " It was probably some Cream of Wheat I missed. " So we added that to the note. For weeks, then months and occasionally even years later we would hear Nick say, " I got bugs! " Took forever to break him of that one! Cari Re: Sent home from school A few years ago I got a call from the school telling me to pick up Sammy. It seems that one of this kids in his class might have Fifth's disease. Now I tell you the word MIGHT was the key issue. They brought up all the kids of Sammy's class and examined them for rashes. Sammy being the hypochondriac he is, was so scared from this, he kept looking for rashes (and kept looking for weeks). They insisted because Sammy said the word rash, he therefore had Fifths disease too and we had to leave work, pick him up, take him to the doctor, yatta yatta yatta...... Oh and the worst of it was they told me that he could not come back to school unless he had a note stating he didn't have the virus. Mind you, he had no symptoms at all. It turns out not only was Sammy completely healthy, so was the initial kid who started the whole mess. The nurse they said was just being cautious. This is the same nurse who tells me every year that Sammy is hearing and sight deficient, although his eye doctor and GP disagree every year. I told the principal that, that kind of caution was called Hysteria and I advised them that scaring my child like that was not in their best interest...... and if they ever made me pull Sammy our of school for no good reason, make me pay for him to see a Doctor,get a note to say my healthy kid was healthy, and make me miss work, I was going to hold them financially responsible. This is not the answer all the time, but sometime hitting them in the wallet is the only way they will listen. Mom to Sammy, 12 DS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 I work in the schools and can I just say something about the runny noses: if they sent all the kids home that had them.....they would be no one at school! Geez! Sent home from school Nicky is 4 and in a special needs class at a nearby elementary school (not our home school). Nicky tends to have soft or runny B.M.s. About a month ago, I got a call from the nurse asking me to come get him because he had diarrhea. I came and got him, but he didn't have another B.M. so I sent him to school the next day. Last Thursday, I got a call that Nicky had diarrhea and I should come get him. I did, and the nurse told me I had to keep him home for 24 hours. Now, in my opinion what he had was a pretty typical Nicky BM. But it escaped from his pull up and was in his pants (probably TMI, but that's how I knew it was " normal " consistency.) And the reason it escaped was because they don't change him enough. When I went to take him Friday morning I was told the nurse said he couldn't come to school. I'm afraid if they start applying the 24 hour rule he won't be able to go to school much at all. I've also had calls about runny noses, when he's been acting just fine. Any, suggestions? I've been thinking of asking to see the written illness policy because I suspect that there isn't one. We've never been given anything. Anne mom to Nicky who'll probably be sent home because he sounds congested. __________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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