Re: Turmeric w/Milk/Auyerveda

[Guest guest]

, very briefly as we are out of town: " ...Vrndavan, the home of Sri Krishna,

where he himself was a cowherd, protector of the cows-Govinda and the divine

lover of the Gopis-cowherdesses... " Sri Krishna is the " latest " incarnation of

Lord Vishnu, one of the 3 Hindu " Godheads " , Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. He is

revered by billions, yes, billions of Indians and I'm sure that much of the

reverence for cows comes from their tremendous devotion to Lord Krishna. Many

Hindus view cows as the embodiment of Krishna on earth today.

Hinduism is really a MONOtheistic religion, but allows devotees to worship their

" Godhead " in a personal manner that befits their needs and has meaning for them;

Rama, Krishna, Shiva, Kali (the Divine Mother--much like in Christianity is

pseudo-worshiped by Catholics; the seek spiritual solace from her.)

Secondly, for a vegetarian, agrarian society, such as India was/is, the cow

provides food (while alive, not dead as meat) in foods such as milk, yogurt,

paneer, ghee, etc. Its dried dung is used for fuel for heat and cooking fires

and it manually plows the land of the farmer. The cow helps Indians to meet all

their daily needs and they revere its sweet and gentle nature. Put, simply, a

family without a cow could not survive...

As for ghee, its " agni " or " heat " provides strong digestive power without

aggravating the Pitta Dosha. (There are three; Vata,Pitta and

Kapha.) Most Americans are predominantly Pitta--quick to anger, reddish skin

(roscea, etc.) and pugilistic in nature. It also calms Vatta types; people who

are anxious, worrisome/neurotic and " ungrounded. " Kapha types are calm, placid,

slow moving and slow-to-anger. (I don't know too many people like that, LOL!)

Thanks for the great article; sorry this was so long!

Joyce

In , <kareningotham@...> wrote:

>

> So many people don't understand exactly on what basis the " sacred cow "

concept came into being and just how reliant people are on cows in India. I

recently read an Ayurvedic perspective on buffalo vs. cow ghee (I was

researching fats for seasoning) that I imagine might serve as a kind of template

for the Indian attitude towards the cow; this is it:

http://www.amritaveda.com/learning/articles/ghee.asp . Joyce, maybe you can

confirm?

>

>

> Re: Turmeric w/Milk

>

>   Hi Fiona,

> I don't even know if I am jumping into this post at the right spot--it is

very long, but combining turmeric with hot milk and sweetener is the Indian

method of using turmeric medicinally. Indians use turmeric extensively as a

spice, of course, and this combo is probably Ayurvedic in origin--Ayurveda is

the several thousand year old natural medicinal system used in India; not a lot

of practitioners here. In India, you can find Ayurvedic pharmacies on almost

every street corner right next to the " regular " pharmacies.

>

> Most Hindus use lots of milk and yogurt products and " revere " cows as the

givers of food (milk), labor, fuel (dried cow dung, etc.) I have never seen soy

or almond milk in India--they don't seem to appear to have all the problems with

lactose intolerance that many Americans do.

>

> Joyce

>

>

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;  

> & gt;

> & gt; Okay, the fibromyalgia thread has me

> & gt; googling turmeric now.  I'm hoping that

> & gt; we're not getting too off-topic though. 

Is

> & gt; it okay to continue the discussion of this

> & gt; (I'm sure we could prepare a turmeric

> & gt; mixture in a vitamix, couldn't we?)  I've

> & gt; got a few questions/thoughts about it. 

> & gt; Perhaps someone has already researched these

> & gt; things or has some ideas about it???

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; A " tea " is often suggested which is

> & gt; turmeric, almond oil and milk, with

> & gt; something to sweeten.  I have two

questions

> & gt; about this.

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; First, is the milk there for any reason

> & gt; other then a carrier?  Does anyone know

if

> & gt; there are properties in the milk that are

> & gt; suppose to interact with the turmeric? 

I'm

> & gt; asking because I'm non-dairy, and I'm

> & gt; wondering about using soy milk or a nut milk

> & gt; of some sort.

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; Secondly, I don't fancy adding fat to

> & gt; something, even if it is a healthy oil. 

I

> & gt; am trying to wean myself off oils - looking

> & gt; to get my fat from the unprocessed source,

> & gt; such as nuts and avocado.  So can I leave

> & gt; the oil out, or is it really necessary? 

As

> & gt; an alternative, could I make this with

> & gt; turmeric and almond milk, thereby getting

> & gt; some natural almond oil I expect (don't know

> & gt; how much of the oil is in almond milk, but I

> & gt; expect a bit would be there)?

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; Now, not related to the tea but generally re

> & gt; turmeric - I've read that it shouldn't be

> & gt; used by ... some groups of people - as with

> & gt; all things (was it people with ulcers, on

> & gt; certain medications, etc).  Then

separately

> & gt; the articals say that turmeric can stop

> & gt; platelets clumping as much.  It usually

says

> & gt; that when it's talking about medicine

> & gt; contraindications rather then who can't use

> & gt; it.  If someone has a condition where

they

> & gt; were sometimes low on platelet, would it be

> & gt; advisable to avoid turmeric?  Or do you

> & gt; think it would be fine as long as you don't

> & gt; overdo it.  I know that this is a very

> & gt; specific medical question that should

> & gt; probably be asked of a doctor, but just

> & gt; throwing it out there incase someone has had

> & gt; any experience of this.  I was amazed at

how

> & gt; many people already knew about various

> & gt; benefits of turmeric and were using it!

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; Actually, I wondering if you'd get the

> & gt; health benefits by putting fresh or powdered

> & gt; turmeric into the morning smoothie?  And

> & gt; would it stain the vitamix jug?

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; I'm interested in any further

> & gt; comments/suggestions re benefits/use of

> & gt; turmeric.

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; Lea Ann, is this taking the off topic

> & gt; discussion just a bit too far?

> & gt;

> & gt;

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, my pleasure--I love to learn new things.

I first realized the importance of cows to Hindus when I became a vegetarian and read a book about vegetarianism that my former fiancé had published (truth be told, he bought the rights and completely rewrote it but still credited the original author); the reasons you mentioned were cited. I had never realized just how much cows provide to Hindu families and you're obviously right--many families rely on them for their very survival. I did not, however, realize that cows were perceived by some as manifestations of Krshna--fascinating!

Regardless, I'm still looking to try buffalo ghee but can't seem to find it for sale, despite the availability of a huge number of Indian products. It would seem that everyone here prefers it from cows; at least that article provide a possible explanation of why that might be.

Re: Turmeric w/Milk

>

> Â Hi Fiona,

> I don't even know if I am jumping into this post at the right spot--it is very long, but combining turmeric with hot milk and sweetener is the Indian method of using turmeric medicinally. Indians use turmeric extensively as a spice, of course, and this combo is probably Ayurvedic in origin--Ayurveda is the several thousand year old natural medicinal system used in India; not a lot of practitioners here. In India, you can find Ayurvedic pharmacies on almost every street corner right next to the "regular" pharmacies.

>

> Most Hindus use lots of milk and yogurt products and "revere" cows as the givers of food (milk), labor, fuel (dried cow dung, etc.) I have never seen soy or almond milk in India--they don't seem to appear to have all the problems with lactose intolerance that many Americans do.

>

> Joyce

>

>

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; ÂÂ

> & gt;

> & gt; Okay, the fibromyalgia thread has me

> & gt; googling turmeric now. I'm hoping that

> & gt; we're not getting too off-topic though. Is

> & gt; it okay to continue the discussion of this

> & gt; (I'm sure we could prepare a turmeric

> & gt; mixture in a vitamix, couldn't we?) I've

> & gt; got a few questions/thoughts about it.ÂÂ

> & gt; Perhaps someone has already researched these

> & gt; things or has some ideas about it???

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; A "tea" is often suggested which is

> & gt; turmeric, almond oil and milk, with

> & gt; something to sweeten. I have two questions

> & gt; about this.

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; First, is the milk there for any reason

> & gt; other then a carrier? Does anyone know if

> & gt; there are properties in the milk that are

> & gt; suppose to interact with the turmeric? I'm

> & gt; asking because I'm non-dairy, and I'm

> & gt; wondering about using soy milk or a nut milk

> & gt; of some sort.

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; Secondly, I don't fancy adding fat to

> & gt; something, even if it is a healthy oil. I

> & gt; am trying to wean myself off oils - looking

> & gt; to get my fat from the unprocessed source,

> & gt; such as nuts and avocado. So can I leave

> & gt; the oil out, or is it really necessary? As

> & gt; an alternative, could I make this with

> & gt; turmeric and almond milk, thereby getting

> & gt; some natural almond oil I expect (don't know

> & gt; how much of the oil is in almond milk, but I

> & gt; expect a bit would be there)?

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; Now, not related to the tea but generally re

> & gt; turmeric - I've read that it shouldn't be

> & gt; used by ... some groups of people - as with

> & gt; all things (was it people with ulcers, on

> & gt; certain medications, etc). Then separately

> & gt; the articals say that turmeric can stop

> & gt; platelets clumping as much. It usually says

> & gt; that when it's talking about medicine

> & gt; contraindications rather then who can't use

> & gt; it. If someone has a condition where they

> & gt; were sometimes low on platelet, would it be

> & gt; advisable to avoid turmeric? Or do you

> & gt; think it would be fine as long as you don't

> & gt; overdo it. I know that this is a very

> & gt; specific medical question that should

> & gt; probably be asked of a doctor, but just

> & gt; throwing it out there incase someone has had

> & gt; any experience of this. I was amazed at how

> & gt; many people already knew about various

> & gt; benefits of turmeric and were using it!

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; Actually, I wondering if you'd get the

> & gt; health benefits by putting fresh or powdered

> & gt; turmeric into the morning smoothie? And

> & gt; would it stain the vitamix jug?

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; I'm interested in any further

> & gt; comments/suggestions re benefits/use of

> & gt; turmeric.

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; Lea Ann, is this taking the off topic

> & gt; discussion just a bit too far?