RE: OT: I am officially hooked and need some advice

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Your bread machine makes a PERFECT companion to the Vitamix, and you will be AMAZED at how much better bread tastes when using freshly ground grain! Just find a standard recipe that you like, only you will grind your own flour or flour blend. Most health food or whole food stores carry assorted bulk grains, so you can start with small amounts until you find what works for you. I am gluten free, so my grains are probably quite different to what you will want to use, but it is wonderful to grind up your own, throw it in the bread machine and make a nice loaf of hot bread! I like to make it by hand when I have time, but have absolutely no hesitation in throwing it in one of my assorted bread machines! In fact, I think I feel a loaf coming on now...have a shiny new RED bread machine-a half loaf size!!--- On

Sun, 3/13/11, Davinna Reeves <d.j.creativedesign@...> wrote:From: Davinna Reeves <d.j.creativedesign@...>Subject: OT: I am officially hooked and need some advice Date: Sunday, March 13, 2011, 3:22 PM

I am looking at getting a dry-blade container and would like to get some grains to be able to make my own breads. Can you give me some advice on where to start and how to learn more about this? I have a bread machine but don't know if I will be able to use this for this type of bread making.

~Davinna

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There are no health food or whole food stores near me.  Is there good website that I can order grains from?  I used to make a great bread with whole wheat flour and oats.  On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Berry <berrywell@...> wrote:

 

Your bread machine makes a PERFECT companion to the Vitamix, and you will be AMAZED at how much better bread tastes when using freshly ground grain!  Just find a standard recipe that you like, only you will grind your own flour or flour blend.  Most health food or whole food stores carry assorted bulk grains, so you can start with small amounts until you find what works for you.  I am gluten free, so my grains are probably quite different to what you will want to use, but it is wonderful to grind up your own, throw it in the bread machine and make a nice loaf of hot bread!  I like to make it by hand when I have time, but have absolutely no hesitation in throwing it in one of my assorted bread machines!  In fact, I think I feel a loaf coming on now...have a shiny new RED bread machine-a half loaf size!!

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Sun, 3/13/11, Davinna Reeves <d.j.creativedesign@...> wrote:

From: Davinna Reeves <d.j.creativedesign@...>Subject: OT: I am officially hooked and need some advice

Date: Sunday, March 13, 2011, 3:22 PM

 

I am looking at getting a dry-blade container and would like to get some grains to be able to make my own breads.  Can you give me some advice on where to start and how to learn more about this? I have a bread machine but don't know if I will be able to use this for this type of bread making.

~Davinna

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I can't really recommend an online source-I order mine in 50 or 100 pound bags wholesale. I have whole oat groats I can ship you for my cost, plus shipping, but I don't have any type of wheat on hand (celiac-gluten free) I also have red quinoa and buckwheat groats-all organic. You might check with your local grocery store to see if they can order you some wheat berries. Hard red winter wheat and spring red wheat are great for homemade bread. Soft winter wheat grinds finer, but doesn't give as much texture to the bread. You can also mill teff, spelt, or other grains.

From: Davinna Reeves <d.j.creativedesign@...>Subject: OT: I am officially hooked and need some advice

Date: Sunday, March 13, 2011, 3:22 PM

I am looking at getting a dry-blade container and would like to get some grains to be able to make my own breads. Can you give me some advice on where to start and how to learn more about this? I have a bread machine but don't know if I will be able to use this for this type of bread making.

~Davinna

[Guest guest]

I buy my grain from a local place, but I know that they have a thriving shipping

business--shipping is most of their biz, I think.

I really like their light wheat and I also also love red winter wheat...They are

famous for their grits (they also have a gristmill), so you can check those out,

too.

http://www.oakviewfarms.com/

Beth

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> > From: Davinna Reeves <d.j.creativedesign@...>

> > Subject: OT: I am officially hooked and need some

> > advice

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> > Date: Sunday, March 13, 2011, 3:22 PM

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> > I am looking at getting a dry-blade container and would like to get some

> > grains to be able to make my own breads. Can you give me some advice on

> > where to start and how to learn more about this? I have a bread machine but

> > don't know if I will be able to use this for this type of bread making.

> > ~Davinna

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I loved that, maybe that is what was wrong with my whole wheat bread that was like a brick, I did not put enough yeast in it, should have done like Lucy.

I am still trying to catch up on all of the posts. Was away for son's hockey. They won. They are in the finals and played two games this past weekend out of town and won both. Just won more game to win and they will win the series and the whole championships. I am so proud of the team. They have done well.

Sorry hockey is off topic. Loved the Lucy bread making.

Carolyn

In a message dated 3/14/2011 12:03:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, berrywell@... writes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLdf8WwkMWw .

[Guest guest]

Hello Davinna,FYI - I can get you Free Shipping and your extra dry blade container for $99 (comes with a Whole Grains cookbook).I'm wondering if I might start making bread at home (getting tired of paying top dollar for the better breads at the bakery) I would definitely get a bread machine if I started making bread - have heard too many great reports on them!

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On Mar 13, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Davinna Reeves wrote:

I am looking at getting a dry-blade container and would like to get some grains to be able to make my own breads. Can you give me some advice on where to start and how to learn more about this? I have a bread machine but don't know if I will be able to use this for this type of bread making.

~Davinna

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I like to run up a loaf of wheaten (whole wheat soda bread) now and again. The problem is that it goes hard pretty quickly (soda-, not yeast-leavened) and I'm just one person. But sometimes it really hits the spot. And of course, it's a lot cheaper than buying bread, even figuring in the cost of imported flour.

Do you remember seeing this a few years back: http://mybready.com/ ?

Re: OT: I am officially hooked and need some advice

Hello Davinna,

FYI - I can get you Free Shipping and your extra dry blade container for $99 (comes with a Whole Grains cookbook).

I'm wondering if I might start making bread at home (getting tired of paying top dollar for the better breads at the bakery) I would definitely get a bread machine if I started making bread - have heard too many great reports on them!

Blessings,

Lea Ann Savage

Satellite Beach, FL

(321) 773-7088 (home)

(321-961-9219 (cell)

www.VitamixLady.com

www..com

<))><

On Mar 13, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Davinna Reeves wrote:

I am looking at getting a dry-blade container and would like to get some grains to be able to make my own breads. Can you give me some advice on where to start and how to learn more about this? I have a bread machine but don't know if I will be able to use this for this type of bread making.

~Davinna

[Guest guest]

, I just got this CHEEKY (and RED) mini sized bread machine-it makes a half sized loaf, and is just perfect for one or two! http://cgi.ebay.com/Wolfgang-Puck-1lb-Automatic-Bread-Maker-BBME015-611-/380317465842?pt=Small_Kitchen_Appliances_US & hash=item588caffcf2 I ended up ordering another for my daughter to keep in the downstairs kitchen for when she wants a wheat based bread, which I don't allow in my kitchen (allergies). We LOVE them! If you are making the wheaten by hand, you can always 1/2 or even quarter the recipe and make a mini loaf-something I do often with my gluten free breads since they go bad so quickly. I make them small enough that they can even be baked in a toaster oven .

I am looking at getting a dry-blade container and would like to get some grains to be able to make my own breads. Can you give me some advice on where to start and how to learn more about this? I have a bread machine but don't know if I will be able to use this for this type of bread making.

~Davinna

[Guest guest]

The beauty of wheaten (and white soda, for that matter) is that you don't really knead it. You VERY gently (and quickly) work the ingredients together and get it into the oven ASAP. Of course, that minimalism comes at a price--you have to be extremely careful not to overwork the dough.

Re: OT: I am officially hooked and need some advice

, I just got this CHEEKY (and RED) mini sized bread machine-it makes a half sized loaf, and is just perfect for one or two! http://cgi.ebay.com/Wolfgang-Puck-1lb-Automatic-Bread-Maker-BBME015-611-/380317465842?pt=Small_Kitchen_Appliances_US & hash=item588caffcf2

I ended up ordering another for my daughter to keep in the downstairs kitchen for when she wants a wheat based bread, which I don't allow in my kitchen (allergies). We LOVE them! If you are making the wheaten by hand, you can always 1/2 or even quarter the recipe and make a mini loaf-something I do often with my gluten free breads since they go bad so quickly. I make them small enough that they can even be baked in a toaster oven .

I am looking at getting a dry-blade container and would like to get some grains to be able to make my own breads. Can you give me some advice on where to start and how to learn more about this? I have a bread machine but don't know if I will be able to use this for this type of bread making.

~Davinna

[Guest guest]

PRICELESS!! I so needed that laugh, thanks for posting, lol

I am looking at getting a dry-blade container and would like to get some grains to be able to make my own breads. Can you give me some advice on where to start and how to learn more about this? I have a bread machine but don't know if I will be able to use this for this type of bread making.

~Davinna

[Guest guest]

That's great Lea Ann,

Breadmachine bread beats the $5 loaf at your health food store any day, in my

opinion. (You can also soak your dough overnight as per Weston A Price

suggestions on reducing Phytic Acid in grains, which prevents some mineral

absorption in the GI track.) But definitely get a used one first and try it out

until you get the process down to see if you like the results.

Then, I would definitely recommend going with a HORIZONTAL Loaf machine, not a

vertical loaf. If you need more info, I would be glad to share further...

Joyce

>

> > I am looking at getting a dry-blade container and would like to get some

grains to be able to make my own breads. Can you give me some advice on where

to start and how to learn more about this? I have a bread machine but don't know

if I will be able to use this for this type of bread making.

> > ~Davinna

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yes Joyce I am very interested. Soak the dough? I know about the need to soak grains, but I figured there was a way to soak the flour somehow first - I'll have to break out my, "Nourishing Traditions" cookbook to see what they say about soaking the dough - doesn't seem like the dough in the middle would contact the water enough to leech out the phytic acid?If I got a bread machine - I would want a horizontal loaf type. I'll be open for suggestions should I decide to do this...

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On Mar 14, 2011, at 12:26 PM, hatchjoyce wrote:

That's great Lea Ann,

Breadmachine bread beats the $5 loaf at your health food store any day, in my opinion. (You can also soak your dough overnight as per Weston A Price suggestions on reducing Phytic Acid in grains, which prevents some mineral absorption in the GI track.) But definitely get a used one first and try it out until you get the process down to see if you like the results.

Then, I would definitely recommend going with a HORIZONTAL Loaf machine, not a vertical loaf. If you need more info, I would be glad to share further...

Joyce

>

> > I am looking at getting a dry-blade container and would like to get some grains to be able to make my own breads. Can you give me some advice on where to start and how to learn more about this? I have a bread machine but don't know if I will be able to use this for this type of bread making.

> > ~Davinna

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Lea Ann, yes, you mix up all your ingredients in your BM except for the yeast

and the salt and then let it sit overnight. A few TBSPs of your liquid should

be either vinegar or whey and you are basically soaking your flour. (Unplug, so

the memory goes off.) In the AM just plug the machine back in and turn it on

with the yeast and salt in it.

See Nourishing Traditions " Yeasted Buttermilk Bread " p.493.

Here is a link to a recipe that I tried from at Kitchen Stewardship. I

think her recipe has too much liquid--you can see that I've posted there...

http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/recipes/soaked-breadmaker-bread/#comment-45940

She has the right idea, but it is really silly to mix it by hand when your BM

will do it. The only reason that she leaves aside ANY flour is that she has her

machine set to turn on automatically and make the bread before she wakes up. (I

think she has a more updated post about BM bread as she was experimenting with

many other WW Bread Recipes.)

also has many posts on various soaking media; vinegar versus whey, etc.

She is very inquisitive and does lots of interesting food experiments that she

shares on her blog.

Joyce

> > >

> > > > I am looking at getting a dry-blade container and would like to get some

grains to be able to make my own breads. Can you give me some advice on where to

start and how to learn more about this? I have a bread machine but don't know if

I will be able to use this for this type of bread making.

> > > > ~Davinna

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Joyce - I'll try this without a bread machine and if my family likes the final product (I can't eat wheat) I might get one and start making our bread, because Publix is out of the bread we like 50% of the time and even that one is too expensive for what you are getting (nothing is as healthy as fresh ground grain with the phytic acids removed would be :-)Is this bread such that the final product would make good sandwiches?I'd need a good whole loaf bread slicer next :-)

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:35 PM, <ckarnes@...> <ckarnes@...> wrote:

Reinhart, the whole grain bread guru says the same thing. He uses a soupy dough saying that the whole wheat will absorb some of the liquid during the pre-fermenting and also that the final taste can be more like sourdough.

Carol K

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---- hatchjoyce <Joyce_Handy@...> wrote:

Lea Ann, yes, you mix up all your ingredients in your BM except for the yeast and the salt and then let it sit overnight. A few TBSPs of your liquid should be either vinegar or whey and you are basically soaking your flour. (Unplug, so the memory goes off.) In the AM just plug the machine back in and turn it on with the yeast and salt in it.

See Nourishing Traditions "Yeasted Buttermilk Bread" p.493.

Here is a link to a recipe that I tried from at Kitchen Stewardship. I think her recipe has too much liquid--you can see that I've posted there...

http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/recipes/soaked-breadmaker-bread/#comment-45940

She has the right idea, but it is really silly to mix it by hand when your BM will do it. The only reason that she leaves aside ANY flour is that she has her machine set to turn on automatically and make the bread before she wakes up. (I think she has a more updated post about BM bread as she was experimenting with many other WW Bread Recipes.)

also has many posts on various soaking media; vinegar versus whey, etc. She is very inquisitive and does lots of interesting food experiments that she shares on her blog.

Joyce

[Guest guest]

I did get a big chuckle out of this - THANKS Kim :-) (love ya)

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On Mar 14, 2011, at 11:38 PM, hatchjoyce wrote:

OMG, I am falling of off chair laughing--I should never post when I am tired, LOL, but since I tend to be very verbose, I thought I would try to abbreviate--yes it is Bread Machine! (I guess I shouldn't try to abbreviate things that are not in common usage in texting, too much guess work!)

Joyce

> I saw "you mix up all your ingredients in your BM"Â and was really confused couldn't figure out why people were mixing things in poo lol I guess in this case BM means buttermilk?

> Kim in OR

[Guest guest]

Hi Lea Ann,

Yes, it makes great sandwich bread. I spent a lot of time looking at bread

slicers, but the feedback is that they cut slices that are too thick for most WW

Bread. So, I use a T-Square to get my first slice straight and it's easy to cut

even slices after that!

I am now soaking some dough in my breadmaker and will make it tomorrow and post

pictures & exact recipe of the whole process for everybody!

Joyce

> >

> > Lea Ann, yes, you mix up all your ingredients in your BM except for the

yeast and the salt and then let it sit overnight. A few TBSPs of your liquid

should be either vinegar or whey and you are basically soaking your flour.

(Unplug, so the memory goes off.) In the AM just plug the machine back in and

turn it on with the yeast and salt in it.

> >

> > See Nourishing Traditions " Yeasted Buttermilk Bread " p.493.

> >

> > Here is a link to a recipe that I tried from at Kitchen Stewardship. I

think her recipe has too much liquid--you can see that I've posted there...

> >

> >

http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/recipes/soaked-breadmaker-bread/#comment-45940

> >

> > She has the right idea, but it is really silly to mix it by hand when your

BM will do it. The only reason that she leaves aside ANY flour is that she has

her machine set to turn on automatically and make the bread before she wakes up.

(I think she has a more updated post about BM bread as she was experimenting

with many other WW Bread Recipes.)

> >

> > also has many posts on various soaking media; vinegar versus whey,

etc. She is very inquisitive and does lots of interesting food experiments that

she shares on her blog.

> >

> > Joyce

>

[Guest guest]

I look forward to this!

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On Mar 15, 2011, at 4:32 PM, hatchjoyce wrote:

Hi Lea Ann,

Yes, it makes great sandwich bread. I spent a lot of time looking at bread slicers, but the feedback is that they cut slices that are too thick for most WW Bread. So, I use a T-Square to get my first slice straight and it's easy to cut even slices after that!

I am now soaking some dough in my breadmaker and will make it tomorrow and post pictures & exact recipe of the whole process for everybody!

Joyce

> >

> > Lea Ann, yes, you mix up all your ingredients in your BM except for the yeast and the salt and then let it sit overnight. A few TBSPs of your liquid should be either vinegar or whey and you are basically soaking your flour. (Unplug, so the memory goes off.) In the AM just plug the machine back in and turn it on with the yeast and salt in it.

> >

> > See Nourishing Traditions "Yeasted Buttermilk Bread" p.493.

> >

> > Here is a link to a recipe that I tried from at Kitchen Stewardship. I think her recipe has too much liquid--you can see that I've posted there...

> >

> > http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/recipes/soaked-breadmaker-bread/#comment-45940

> >

> > She has the right idea, but it is really silly to mix it by hand when your BM will do it. The only reason that she leaves aside ANY flour is that she has her machine set to turn on automatically and make the bread before she wakes up. (I think she has a more updated post about BM bread as she was experimenting with many other WW Bread Recipes.)

> >

> > also has many posts on various soaking media; vinegar versus whey, etc. She is very inquisitive and does lots of interesting food experiments that she shares on her blog.

> >

> > Joyce

>

[Guest guest]

that would be wonderful!

In a message dated 3/15/2011 4:33:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Joyce_Handy@... writes:

Hi Lea Ann,Yes, it makes great sandwich bread. I spent a lot of time looking at bread slicers, but the feedback is that they cut slices that are too thick for most WW Bread. So, I use a T-Square to get my first slice straight and it's easy to cut even slices after that!I am now soaking some dough in my breadmaker and will make it tomorrow and post pictures & exact recipe of the whole process for everybody!Joyce > > > > Lea Ann, yes, you mix up all your ingredients in your BM except for the yeast and the salt and then let it sit overnight. A few TBSPs of your liquid should be either vinegar or whey and you are basically soaking your flour. (Unplug, so the memory goes off.) In the AM just plug the machine back in and turn it on with the yeast and salt in it. > > > > See Nourishing Traditions "Yeasted Buttermilk Bread" p.493.> > > > Here is a link to a recipe that I tried from at Kitchen Stewardship. I think her recipe has too much liquid--you can see that I've posted there...> > > > http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/recipes/soaked-breadmaker-bread/#comment-45940 > > > > She has the right idea, but it is really silly to mix it by hand when your BM will do it. The only reason that she leaves aside ANY flour is that she has her machine set to turn on automatically and make the bread before she wakes up. (I think she has a more updated post about BM bread as she was experimenting with many other WW Bread Recipes.)> > > > also has many posts on various soaking media; vinegar versus whey, etc. She is very inquisitive and does lots of interesting food experiments that she shares on her blog.> > > > Joyce>

[Guest guest]

– any other way to see this

video? It didn’t work for me

Bette

And speaking of making bread:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLdf8WwkMWw .

[Guest guest]

Not that I know of, it's on YouTube. Have you tried copying and pasting the link to a different browser?

RE: OT: I am officially hooked and need some advice

– any other way to see this video? It didn’t work for me

Bette

And speaking of making bread: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLdf8WwkMWw .

[Guest guest]

The problem doesn’t seem to be the browser

… here’s the message I see:

This

video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by CBS.

Bette

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011

8:44 AM

Subject: RE:

OT: I am officially hooked and need some advice

Not that I know of, it's on YouTube. Have

you tried copying and pasting the link to a different browser?

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Message-----

From: Bette Holzer

<betteholzer@...>

Sent: Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:35 am

Subject: RE: OT: I am officially hooked and need some

advice

– any other way to

see this video? It didn’t work for me

Bette

And

speaking of making bread: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLdf8WwkMWw .

[Guest guest]

Oh, dear...well, there's nothing much I can do about that. Very strange because the episodes have been posted for a very long time. That really sucks.

RE: OT: I am officially hooked and need some advice

– any other way to see this video? It didn’t work for me

Bette

And speaking of making bread: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLdf8WwkMWw .

[Guest guest]

Ah shucks, I am so far behind and CBS has removed the video.

k

-- Re: OT: I am officially hooked and need some advice

I loved that, maybe that is what was wrong with my whole wheat bread that was like a brick, I did not put enough yeast in it, should have done like Lucy.

I am still trying to catch up on all of the posts. Was away for son's hockey. They won. They are in the finals and played two games this past weekend out of town and won both. Just won more game to win and they will win the series and the whole championships. I am so proud of the team. They have done well.

Sorry hockey is off topic. Loved the Lucy bread making.

Carolyn

In a message dated 3/14/2011 12:03:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, berrywell@... writes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLdf8WwkMWw .

[Guest guest]

I'm really sorry some missed this--it's really funny. I can't imagine why CBS decided to be such jerks all of a sudden--those ILL episodes have been up for a LONG time.

Re: OT: I am officially hooked and need some advice

I loved that, maybe that is what was wrong with my whole wheat bread that was like a brick, I did not put enough yeast in it, should have done like Lucy.

I am still trying to catch up on all of the posts. Was away for son's hockey. They won. They are in the finals and played two games this past weekend out of town and won both. Just won more game to win and they will win the series and the whole championships. I am so proud of the team. They have done well.

Sorry hockey is off topic. Loved the Lucy bread making.

Carolyn

In a message dated 3/14/2011 12:03:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, berrywell@... writes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLdf8WwkMWw .

[Guest guest]

Either way says its removed by cbs

-- RE: OT: I am officially hooked and need some advice

– any other way to see this video? It didn’t work for me

Bette

And speaking of making bread: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLdf8WwkMWw .