Apple seeds

[Guest guest]

> I know they do. I cored apples for 45 years. I'm eating them on purpose.

> It is the same as eating apricot kernels only much smaller dose. And,

> since they say to eat 8-12 apricot kernels I don't think the dose from 2

> apples is a lot.

The doctor that taught me most of what I use in nutrition said to always

eat the seeds. That's where most of the nutrition is. That includes apple

seeds too. You only eat the seeds though when you are eating the whole

fruit. A diet of only seeds might be dangerous eventually.

JP

[Guest guest]

Moria,

I know they do. I cored apples for 45 years. I'm eating them on purpose.

It is the same as eating apricot kernels only much smaller dose. And,

since they say to eat 8-12 apricot kernels I don't think the dose from 2

apples is a lot.

The seeds from any plant in the something-or-other rosacea family, of

which both apples and apricots are a member, all have vit B-17

(leatrile). I thought the poisonous part was the B-17?

This reminds me of what it says about most mushrooms being poisonous. 35

years ago I was looking in a mushroom book at amanita muscaria and

psylocibe americana. It said they are poisonous and the symptoms are

hallucinations. ;-) It cracked me up then because that was why I wanted

them.

If I was eating more than two apples I would core them.

jim

Moria Merriweather wrote:

>

> Jim,

>

> Did you know that apple seeds contain arsenic?

> They do. Poisonous, and in small amounts.

> I carefully cut around the core when preparing

> apples for juicing.

>

> Moria

>

[Guest guest]

Moira,

Could you steer me toward some references for this? My son and lots of

other kids are showing high toxic arsenic levels in hair analysis, and

nobody can figure out where it's coming from, other than treated wood and

pesticides. Thanks,

Kathy

apple seeds

>Jim,

>

>Did you know that apple seeds contain arsenic?

>They do. Poisonous, and in small amounts.

>I carefully cut around the core when preparing

>apples for juicing.

>

> Moria

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Moria, Jim, JP-

Is it arsenic or cyanide that is in apple seeds and apricot seeds? I

know bitter almond is cyanide, but I thought apple and apricot were too.

I too eat the seeds on occasion.

I Bless You and Bless You for the Goodness of God Which is at Work

Within You,

Zell

[Guest guest]

I've heard that fruit seeds aren't good for you, yet some of your

literature says to go ahead and include the seeds. Are seeds harmful?

There is some evidence that certain seeds from the rose family (apples,

pears, cherries,apricots, peaches and plums),and very few citrus fruits

contain very small amounts of the cyanide releasing chemical amygdalin.

however, the amount of amygdalin present is negligible. An adult would have

to consume 50 to 70 apricot pits to get a lethal doseof cyanide.The only

case of fatal seeds we are aware of is the story of a man who saved up a

cupful of seeds and ate them all at once. That would be like eating several

bushels of applesin one sitting. (Though this story has been circulated for

at least 50 years, we have not been able to document its source.)

Our body has an enzyme called rhodanese which will detoxify small amounts of

the cyanide into a thiocyanate compound which is then ex-creted in the

urine. However, the long term toxic effect of eating the seeds from one or

two apples a day has not been determined. There is some speculation about

the body's ability to efficiently detoxify this daily dose.

On the other side of the seed, the nutritious side, Lancaster Laboratories

found that orange and apple seeds contained proportionately more of several

nutrients than found in juice alone. For example, the orange seed contains 9

times more calcium, 7 times more magnesium and 1.5 times more potassium than

an equal volume of orange juice. Apple seeds have 5 times more potassium

than extracted apple juice.

Considering these facts we feel that seeds are safe and provide an

additional source of nutrients. However, if you are concerned or don't feel

comfort-able including the seeds, feel free to remove them when preparing

your juice.

(Source: vitamix recipe book)

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_212.html

http://newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/bio99/bio99250.htm

Apple seeds contain " prunasin " which is a cyanogenic glycoside - a

chemical that can become a poison when it is digested - it releases cyanide.

Apples are in the genus Prunus and members of Prunus make these types of

poisons.

http://www.datadepo.com/cures for cancer/food.htm

This second line of defense against cancer is made up of these compounds

called nitrilosides. For example, amygdalin is a nitriloside contained in

apricot kernels, apple seeds, grape seeds, grasses, and other foods.

Nitrilosides work like this:Cancer cells contain an enzyme called

beta-glucosidase that converts nitrilosides into two molecules of glucose,

one molecule of benzaldehyde (extremely toxic to the cancer cell), and one

molecule of hydrogen cyanide (somewhat toxic to the cancer cell). Normal

body cells contain the enzyme rhodanese which converts nitrilosides into

food. Only cancer cells contain beta-glucosidase. Thus only cancer cells can

convert nitrilosides into benzaldehyde and hydrogen cyanide, and the process

kills the cancer cells while it only nourishes normal cells! This is a

target-specific reaction. It does not adversely affect normal cells.

There is more out there.........search.

P.M.

> Moira,

> Could you steer me toward some references for this? My son and lots of

> other kids are showing high toxic arsenic levels in hair analysis, and

> nobody can figure out where it's coming from, other than treated wood and

> pesticides. Thanks,

> Kathy

[Guest guest]

I was having a discussion with a vitamix owner at the gym.

She's worried about the cyanide in apple seeds.

What does the group say? (I throw the whole apple in)

Tony

[Guest guest]

Do a search on the home page; this has come up before. In a nutshell, her fears are groundless but if she wants to think they'll kill her, don't argue: she's probably happy in the belief that she's skirting death every time she bites into an apple. Did you happen to read my post about Google's possibly being your worst enemy? Case in point.

Apple seeds

I was having a discussion with a vitamix owner at the gym.

She's worried about the cyanide in apple seeds.

What does the group say? (I throw the whole apple in)

[Guest guest]

They do contain cyanide and are not good for you. I don't think they'd do much harm as long as it just a couple.TerrySent from my iPadOn Mar 9, 2011, at 10:08 AM, tszpara@... wrote:

I was having a discussion with a vitamix owner at the gym.

She's worried about the cyanide in apple seeds.

What does the group say? (I throw the whole apple in)

Tony

[Guest guest]

Can't do a search as home page is a blocked site on govt computers.

Tony

Apple seeds

I was having a discussion with a vitamix owner at the gym.

She's worried about the cyanide in apple seeds.

What does the group say? (I throw the whole apple in)

[Guest guest]

I read on line yesterday that they won't hurt you if you eat a couple but in the vita mix, they are pulverized and should not be eaten that way. bonnie

Re: Apple seeds

They do contain cyanide and are not good for you. I don't think they'd do much harm as long as it just a couple.

TerrySent from my iPad

On Mar 9, 2011, at 10:08 AM, tszpara@... wrote:

I was having a discussion with a vitamix owner at the gym.

She's worried about the cyanide in apple seeds.

What does the group say? (I throw the whole apple in)

Tony

[Guest guest]

It's ridiculous. I'm not posting from The Great Beyond and I've consumed MANY an apple seed and can assure you that I'm not unique (or dead)--again, I appeal to common sense. Unless you consume a rather massive amount of apple seeds, you're in no danger whatsoever, ESPECIALLY if they're consumed in the fruit in which they're found. I would also point out that when you chew them, they're also pulverized. Sorry if I sound testy but few food-related things make me angrier than baseless scare-mongering of this kind.

Re: Apple seeds

I read on line yesterday that they won't hurt you if you eat a couple but in the vita mix, they are pulverized and should not be eaten that way. bonnie

Re: Apple seeds

They do contain cyanide and are not good for you. I don't think they'd do much harm as long as it just a couple.

Terry

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 9, 2011, at 10:08 AM, tszpara@... wrote:

I was having a discussion with a vitamix owner at the gym.

She's worried about the cyanide in apple seeds.

What does the group say? (I throw the whole apple in)

Tony

[Guest guest]

I'll continue to eat them. Won't bother to try and convince friend as she's a vegetarian and I'm a meatatarian and know you can't rationalize with most vegetarians anyway.

Tony

Re: Apple seeds

I read on line yesterday that they won't hurt you if you eat a couple but in the vita mix, they are pulverized and should not be eaten that way. bonnie

Re: Apple seeds

They do contain cyanide and are not good for you. I don't think they'd do much harm as long as it just a couple.

TerrySent from my iPad

On Mar 9, 2011, at 10:08 AM, tszpara@... wrote:

I was having a discussion with a vitamix owner at the gym.

She's worried about the cyanide in apple seeds.

What does the group say? (I throw the whole apple in)

Tony

[Guest guest]

Considering that I've been a vegetarian since 1987, I'm hoping that was at least partly in jest--"partly" because I tend to agree with you. I try to avoid any sort of discussion in which I'm called upon to defend my own position or annihilate someone else's; I also try avoid the appearance of proselytizing. I'm of a libertarian bent; I guess my motto is along the lines of "do as you please, just leave me out of it."

Re: Apple seeds

I read on line yesterday that they won't hurt you if you eat a couple but in the vita mix, they are pulverized and should not be eaten that way. bonnie

Re: Apple seeds

They do contain cyanide and are not good for you. I don't think they'd do much harm as long as it just a couple.

Terry

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 9, 2011, at 10:08 AM, tszpara@... wrote:

I was having a discussion with a vitamix owner at the gym.

She's worried about the cyanide in apple seeds.

What does the group say? (I throw the whole apple in)

Tony

[Guest guest]

I am vegetarian. And rational, lol. I also don't impose my views on others, and will in fact cook meat for anyone visiting my house who wants it. I do resent when I don't get the same treatment, as in people generalizing me for my food choices. In my case, it actually ISN'T a choice-I can't digest animal protein, so no other option, but I don't think what I eat needs to concern anyone else.

I was having a discussion with a vitamix owner at the gym.

She's worried about the cyanide in apple seeds.

What does the group say? (I throw the whole apple in)

Tony

[Guest guest]

Maybe some gov't computers, but I got to the homepage.  Tony what agency do you work for?

 

Barb T.

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:59 AM, <tszpara@...> wrote:

 

Can't do a search as home page is a blocked site on govt computers.

 

Tony

 

 

Apple seeds

 

I was having a discussion with a vitamix owner at the gym.

She's worried about the cyanide in apple seeds.

What does the group say?  (I throw the whole apple in)

 

[Guest guest]

I don't think it's anything to get exercised over. <g> If I spot an apple seed staring at me I might toss it out but maybe not. As I said I don't think a few are going to make anyone sick. TerrySent from my iPadOn Mar 9, 2011, at 12:21 PM, tszpara@... wrote:

I'll continue to eat them. Won't bother to try and convince friend as she's a vegetarian and I'm a meatatarian and know you can't rationalize with most vegetarians anyway.

Tony

Re: Apple seeds

I read on line yesterday that they won't hurt you if you eat a couple but in the vita mix, they are pulverized and should not be eaten that way. bonnie

Re: Apple seeds

They do contain cyanide and are not good for you. I don't think they'd do much harm as long as it just a couple.

TerrySent from my iPad

On Mar 9, 2011, at 10:08 AM, tszpara@... wrote:

I was having a discussion with a vitamix owner at the gym.

She's worried about the cyanide in apple seeds.

What does the group say? (I throw the whole apple in)

Tony

[Guest guest]

If you consume the seeds along with the fiber of the apple it is all going to get swept away without doing any damage. I never go out of my way to get the seeds in the recipe (if they fall on the cutting board I sweep them away) and I've never gone out of my way to put them in either. For my raw apple sauce recipe I get as many out as possible because they add a bitter flavor I don't want.I've always said if the idea of eating apple seeds bothers you - don't put them in.Some people purposely eat the seeds of 3 apples per day for the laetrile (B-17) content. http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/aspreventative.html

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On Mar 9, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Bonnie Engler wrote:

I read on line yesterday that they won't hurt you if you eat a couple but in the vita mix, they are pulverized and should not be eaten that way. bonnie

Re: Apple seeds

They do contain cyanide and are not good for you. I don't think they'd do much harm as long as it just a couple.

TerrySent from my iPad

On Mar 9, 2011, at 10:08 AM, tszpara@... wrote:

I was having a discussion with a vitamix owner at the gym.She's worried about the cyanide in apple seeds.What does the group say? (I throw the whole apple in) Tony

[Guest guest]

I can get to but the groups pages are blocked.

Tony

Apple seeds

I was having a discussion with a vitamix owner at the gym.

She's worried about the cyanide in apple seeds.

What does the group say? (I throw the whole apple in)

[Guest guest]

Love the B17 link. I may have to send that to her.

Tony

Re: Apple seeds

If you consume the seeds along with the fiber of the apple it is all going to get swept away without doing any damage. I never go out of my way to get the seeds in the recipe (if they fall on the cutting board I sweep them away) and I've never gone out of my way to put them in either. For my raw apple sauce recipe I get as many out as possible because they add a bitter flavor I don't want.

I've always said if the idea of eating apple seeds bothers you - don't put them in.

Some people purposely eat the seeds of 3 apples per day for the laetrile (B-17) content. http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/aspreventative.html

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On Mar 9, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Bonnie Engler wrote:

I read on line yesterday that they won't hurt you if you eat a couple but in the vita mix, they are pulverized and should not be eaten that way. bonnie

Re: Apple seeds

They do contain cyanide and are not good for you. I don't think they'd do much harm as long as it just a couple.

TerrySent from my iPad

On Mar 9, 2011, at 10:08 AM, tszpara@... wrote:

I was having a discussion with a vitamix owner at the gym.

She's worried about the cyanide in apple seeds.

What does the group say? (I throw the whole apple in)

Tony

[Guest guest]

Trouble maker ;-)

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On Mar 9, 2011, at 1:50 PM, tszpara@... wrote:

Love the B17 link. I may have to send that to her. Tony

Re: Apple seeds

If you consume the seeds along with the fiber of the apple it is all going to get swept away without doing any damage. I never go out of my way to get the seeds in the recipe (if they fall on the cutting board I sweep them away) and I've never gone out of my way to put them in either. For my raw apple sauce recipe I get as many out as possible because they add a bitter flavor I don't want.

I've always said if the idea of eating apple seeds bothers you - don't put them in.

Some people purposely eat the seeds of 3 apples per day for the laetrile (B-17) content. http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/aspreventative.html

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On Mar 9, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Bonnie Engler wrote:

I read on line yesterday that they won't hurt you if you eat a couple but in the vita mix, they are pulverized and should not be eaten that way. bonnie

Re: Apple seeds

They do contain cyanide and are not good for you. I don't think they'd do much harm as long as it just a couple.

TerrySent from my iPad

On Mar 9, 2011, at 10:08 AM, tszpara@... wrote:

I was having a discussion with a vitamix owner at the gym.She's worried about the cyanide in apple seeds.What does the group say? (I throw the whole apple in)

Tony

[Guest guest]

Yup.

Plus I HAVE to be right.

It's amazing I'm still single.

Tony

Re: Apple seeds

If you consume the seeds along with the fiber of the apple it is all going to get swept away without doing any damage. I never go out of my way to get the seeds in the recipe (if they fall on the cutting board I sweep them away) and I've never gone out of my way to put them in either. For my raw apple sauce recipe I get as many out as possible because they add a bitter flavor I don't want.

I've always said if the idea of eating apple seeds bothers you - don't put them in.

Some people purposely eat the seeds of 3 apples per day for the laetrile (B-17) content. http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/aspreventative.html

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On Mar 9, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Bonnie Engler wrote:

I read on line yesterday that they won't hurt you if you eat a couple but in the vita mix, they are pulverized and should not be eaten that way. bonnie

Re: Apple seeds

They do contain cyanide and are not good for you. I don't think they'd do much harm as long as it just a couple.

TerrySent from my iPad

On Mar 9, 2011, at 10:08 AM, tszpara@... wrote:

I was having a discussion with a vitamix owner at the gym.

She's worried about the cyanide in apple seeds.

What does the group say? (I throw the whole apple in)

Tony

[Guest guest]

I suspect that you shouldn't bother; she's probably happy in the "knowledge" that she's avoiding a lethal substance. I don't think she wants to be convinced.

Re: Apple seeds

If you consume the seeds along with the fiber of the apple it is all going to get swept away without doing any damage. I never go out of my way to get the seeds in the recipe (if they fall on the cutting board I sweep them away) and I've never gone out of my way to put them in either. For my raw apple sauce recipe I get as many out as possible because they add a bitter flavor I don't want.

I've always said if the idea of eating apple seeds bothers you - don't put them in.

Some people purposely eat the seeds of 3 apples per day for the laetrile (B-17) content. http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/aspreventative.html

Blessings,

Lea Ann Savage

Satellite Beach, FL

(321) 773-7088 (home)

(321-961-9219 (cell)

www.VitamixLady.com

www..com

<))><

On Mar 9, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Bonnie Engler wrote:

I read on line yesterday that they won't hurt you if you eat a couple but in the vita mix, they are pulverized and should not be eaten that way. bonnie

Re: Apple seeds

They do contain cyanide and are not good for you. I don't think they'd do much harm as long as it just a couple.

Terry

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 9, 2011, at 10:08 AM, tszpara@... wrote:

I was having a discussion with a vitamix owner at the gym.

She's worried about the cyanide in apple seeds.

What does the group say? (I throw the whole apple in)

Tony

[Guest guest]

Bet you leave the seat up, too, Tony, lolSent from my iPadOn Mar 9, 2011, at 2:46 PM, tszpara@... wrote:

Yup.

Plus I HAVE to be right.

It's amazing I'm still single.

Tony

Re: Apple seeds

If you consume the seeds along with the fiber of the apple it is all going to get swept away without doing any damage. I never go out of my way to get the seeds in the recipe (if they fall on the cutting board I sweep them away) and I've never gone out of my way to put them in either. For my raw apple sauce recipe I get as many out as possible because they add a bitter flavor I don't want.

I've always said if the idea of eating apple seeds bothers you - don't put them in.

Some people purposely eat the seeds of 3 apples per day for the laetrile (B-17) content. http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/aspreventative.html

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On Mar 9, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Bonnie Engler wrote:

I read on line yesterday that they won't hurt you if you eat a couple but in the vita mix, they are pulverized and should not be eaten that way. bonnie

Re: Apple seeds

They do contain cyanide and are not good for you. I don't think they'd do much harm as long as it just a couple.

TerrySent from my iPad

On Mar 9, 2011, at 10:08 AM, tszpara@... wrote:

I was having a discussion with a vitamix owner at the gym.

She's worried about the cyanide in apple seeds.

What does the group say? (I throw the whole apple in)

Tony

[Guest guest]

Last year a vegan friend put me on to " The China Study "

The book seemed to have a rational argument, so I tried it for nine

months.

The expected benefits didn't manifest so I returned to my backup,

Atkins and Protein Power.

Works best for me...

Chuck

You know you're dieting when postage stamps taste good.

On 3/9/2011 12:51:55 PM, Berry (berrywell@...) wrote:

> I am vegetarian. And rational, lol. I also

> don't impose my views on others, and will in fact cook meat for anyone

visiting my house who wants it. I do resent when I don't

> get the same treatment, as in people generalizing me for my food choices.

> In my case, it actually ISN'T a choice-I can't digest animal protein, so

> no other option, but I

> don't think what I eat needs to concern anyone else.

>

>

>

>

>

> From: <kareningotham@...>

> Subject: Re: Apple seeds

>

> Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 12:37 PM

>

>

> Considering that I've

> been a vegetarian since 1987,

> I'm hoping that was at least partly in jest-- " partly " because I tend to agree

with you. I try to avoid any sort of discussion in which I'm

> called upon to defend my own position or annihilate someone

> else's; I also try avoid the appearance of proselytizing. I'm of a

> libertarian bent; I guess my motto is along the lines of

> " do as you please, just leave me out of it. "

>

>

[Guest guest]

Nope.  Leave it down.  I have good aim.

Tony

On 3/9/2011 5:29 PM, Berry wrote:

 

Bet you leave the seat up, too, Tony, lol

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 9, 2011, at 2:46 PM, tszpara@...

wrote:

 

Yup.

 

Plus I HAVE to be right.

 

It's amazing I'm still single.

 

Tony

 

 

Re:

Apple seeds

 

They do

contain

cyanide and

are not good

for you. I

don't think

they'd do much

harm as long

as it just a

couple.

Terry

Sent from my

iPad

On Mar 9,

2011, at 10:08

AM, tszpara@... wrote:

I was

having a

discussion

with a vitamix

owner at the

gym.

She's

worried about

the cyanide in

apple seeds.

What does

the group

say?  (I throw

the whole

apple in)

 

Tony

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