Re: Lead, slow cookers, pressure cookers

[Guest guest]

I checked it out, that is cool. Has anyone seen that closer than Australia? Maybe less expensive?

Carolyn

In a message dated 3/8/2011 9:58:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, fiona.k@... writes:

Hi allAfter the discussion a little while ago lead to lead in slow cookers I emailed Sunbeam - the brand of my slow cooker - with my model number etc and asked about lead in my slow cooker. Answer just came back that the technical dept says that there is no lead in it. Thank goodness.And pressure cookers - I bought one finally about 2 months ago. I'm still trying to get use to it. I was hoping it would be simpler then it is, but I think it is just the lack of instructions that came with it - I bought it new, but just came with very brief instructions. I'm finding that things seem to take almost as long as they would without the pressure cooker because by the time I cook it long enough to "bring it to pressure" - that is when you start timing. Bringing it to pressure takes a long time - much longer then the actual cooking time often, and that's with a good gas stove. Then quite a few recipes say to leave it to naturally release the pressure (or whatever the wording is) which again, takes ages.I think I'm still just getting use to it and it will turn out to be great, and hoping to get a friend who uses a pressure cooker to come over and walk me through it so I know if I'm turning it down too soon etc. I think that would make a huge difference.Anyway, I've also looked at the New Wave 5 function cooker (I have some "points" that would pay for some of that). It is a pressure cooker, slow cooker, rice cooker/steamer, cooking pot and soup pot. The main reason that I'm interested is for the pressure cooker function, but I figure if I'm taking up bench space I'd like it to also do my rice so I can put my rice cooker away, and maybe even the slow cooker. I'm wondering if an electric pressure cooker would just be easier - everything timed for me etc. Ethically I prefer the idea of the manual one that goes on the stove - uses gas not electricity, will hopefully last a lot longer, etc, but perhaps the electric one would give me some confidence for using the manual one by the time the electric one breaks down (as I'm sure it will end up doing!). I do like my rice cooker because it also does porridge (oats) nicely and I can put it on in the mornings for either rice or porridge for the kids for breakfast and I don't have to pay any attention to it. I don't mind doing porridge on the stove, but I don't always have morning time to stand and stir before school.Interested in opinions on electric pressure cookers and would love to know if anyone has the New wave 5 function cooker http://newwavekitchenappliances.com/catalogue/products/5-1-multi-cooker/multi-cooker-5-1Fiona

[Guest guest]

that is cool, I checked out the video, thanks for sharing. I laughed when he said about the old one his gramma had and everyone was afraid to be near it, that is my memory of my mom's. I remember being afraid of it. LOL! Funny how that left such an impression on me about them.

Carolyn

In a message dated 3/8/2011 10:47:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, berrywell@... writes:

http://kitchen-dining.hsn.com/elite-13-function-8qt-electronic-pressure-cooker_p-6287011_xp.aspx?web_id=6287011 & ocm=sekw

[Guest guest]

I have been eyeballing this one, but I really do NOT need one. I have a digital pressure cooker, and MANY steamers and rice cookers, and considering I don't even eat meat, I really don't need it. But....... it DOES come in red...http://kitchen-dining.hsn.com/elite-13-function-8qt-electronic-pressure-cooker_p-6287011_xp.aspx?web_id=6287011 & ocm=sekw--- On Tue, 3/8/11, ocarolyn1@... <ocarolyn1@...> wrote:From: ocarolyn1@... <ocarolyn1@...>Subject: Re: Lead, slow cookers, pressure cookers Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 10:39 PM

I checked it out, that is cool. Has anyone seen that closer than Australia? Maybe less expensive?

Carolyn

In a message dated 3/8/2011 9:58:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, fiona.k@... writes:

Hi allAfter the discussion a little while ago lead to lead in slow cookers I emailed Sunbeam - the brand of my slow cooker - with my model number etc and asked about lead in my slow cooker. Answer just came back that the technical dept says that there is no lead in it. Thank goodness.And pressure cookers - I bought one finally about 2 months ago. I'm still trying to get use to it. I was hoping it would be simpler then it is, but I think it is just the lack of instructions that came with it - I bought it new, but just came with very brief instructions. I'm finding that things seem to take almost as long as they would without the pressure cooker because by the time I cook it long enough to "bring it to pressure" - that is when you start timing. Bringing it to pressure takes a long time - much longer then the actual cooking time often, and that's with a good gas stove. Then quite a few recipes say to leave it to naturally release the pressure (or whatever the wording is) which again, takes ages.I think I'm still just getting use to it and it will turn out to be great, and hoping to get a friend who uses a pressure cooker to come over and walk me through it so I know if I'm turning it down too soon etc. I think that would make a huge difference.Anyway, I've also looked at the New Wave 5 function cooker (I have some "points" that would pay for some of that). It is a pressure cooker, slow cooker, rice cooker/steamer, cooking pot and soup pot. The main reason that I'm interested is for the pressure cooker function, but I figure if I'm taking up bench space I'd like it to also do my rice so I can put my rice cooker away, and maybe even the slow cooker. I'm wondering if an electric pressure cooker would just be easier - everything timed for me etc. Ethically I prefer the idea of the manual one that goes on the stove - uses gas not electricity, will hopefully last a lot longer, etc, but perhaps the electric one would give me some confidence for using the manual one by the time the electric one breaks down (as I'm sure it will end up doing!). I do like my rice cooker because it also does porridge (oats) nicely and I can put it on in the mornings for either rice or porridge for the kids for breakfast and I don't have to pay any attention to it. I don't mind doing porridge on the stove, but I don't always have morning time to stand and stir before school.Interested in opinions on electric pressure cookers and would love to know if anyone has the New wave 5 function cooker http://newwavekitchenappliances.com/catalogue/products/5-1-multi-cooker/multi-cooker-5-1Fiona

[Guest guest]

Well thats a good reason , if you ask me. : )

We gadget queens don't need good excuses to get anything. Do we? lol

k

-- Re: Lead, slow cookers, pressure cookers Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 10:39 PM

I checked it out, that is cool. Has anyone seen that closer than Australia? Maybe less expensive?

Carolyn

In a message dated 3/8/2011 9:58:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, fiona.k@... writes:

Hi allAfter the discussion a little while ago lead to lead in slow cookers I emailed Sunbeam - the brand of my slow cooker - with my model number etc and asked about lead in my slow cooker. Answer just came back that the technical dept says that there is no lead in it. Thank goodness.And pressure cookers - I bought one finally about 2 months ago. I'm still trying to get use to it. I was hoping it would be simpler then it is, but I think it is just the lack of instructions that came with it - I bought it new, but just came with very brief instructions. I'm finding that things seem to take almost as long as they would without the pressure cooker because by the time I cook it long enough to "bring it to pressure" - that is when you start timing. Bringing it to pressure takes a long time - much longer then the actual cooking time often, and that's with a good gas stove. Then quite a few recipes say to leave it to naturally release the pressure (or whatever the wording is) which again, takes ages.I think I'm still just getting use to it and it will turn out to be great, and hoping to get a friend who uses a pressure cooker to come over and walk me through it so I know if I'm turning it down too soon etc. I think that would make a huge difference.Anyway, I've also looked at the New Wave 5 function cooker (I have some "points" that would pay for some of that). It is a pressure cooker, slow cooker, rice cooker/steamer, cooking pot and soup pot. The main reason that I'm interested is for the pressure cooker function, but I figure if I'm taking up bench space I'd like it to also do my rice so I can put my rice cooker away, and maybe even the slow cooker. I'm wondering if an electric pressure cooker would just be easier - everything timed for me etc. Ethically I prefer the idea of the manual one that goes on the stove - uses gas not electricity, will hopefully last a lot longer, etc, but perhaps the electric one would give me some confidence for using the manual one by the time the electric one breaks down (as I'm sure it will end up doing!). I do like my rice cooker because it also does porridge (oats) nicely and I can put it on in the mornings for either rice or porridge for the kids for breakfast and I don't have to pay any attention to it. I don't mind doing porridge on the stove, but I don't always have morning time to stand and stir before school.Interested in opinions on electric pressure cookers and would love to know if anyone has the New wave 5 function cooker http://newwavekitchenappliances.com/catalogue/products/5-1-multi-cooker/multi-cooker-5-1Fiona

[Guest guest]

Does anyone share my concern over the " non-stick " interiors of the electronic pressure cookers?  Is there a stainless steel version of the electronic PC?  I am very leery of non-stick interiors (especially made in China).  Would love to hear your thoughts on this.  Arlene

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:04 AM, K <kamako@...> wrote:

 

Well thats a good reason ,  if you ask me.  : )

We gadget queens don't need good excuses to get anything.  Do we?   lol

k 

 

 

 

 

-- Re: Lead, slow cookers, pressure cookers

Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 10:39 PM

 

I checked it out, that is cool. Has anyone seen that closer than Australia? Maybe less expensive?

Carolyn

 

In a message dated 3/8/2011 9:58:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, fiona.k@... writes:

 

Hi allAfter the discussion a little while ago lead to lead in slow cookers I emailed Sunbeam - the brand of my slow cooker - with my model number etc and asked about lead in my slow cooker. Answer just came back that the

technical dept says that there is no lead in it. Thank goodness.And pressure cookers - I bought one finally about 2 months ago. I'm still trying to get use to it. I was hoping it would be simpler then it

is, but I think it is just the lack of instructions that came with it - I bought it new, but just came with very brief instructions. I'm finding that things seem to take almost as long as they would without

the pressure cooker because by the time I cook it long enough to " bring it to pressure " - that is when you start timing. Bringing it to pressure takes a long time - much longer then the actual cooking time

often, and that's with a good gas stove. Then quite a few recipes say to leave it to naturally release the pressure (or whatever the wording is) which again, takes ages.I think I'm still just getting use to it and it will turn out to be

great, and hoping to get a friend who uses a pressure cooker to come over and walk me through it so I know if I'm turning it down too soon etc. I think that would make a huge difference.Anyway, I've also looked at the New Wave 5 function cooker (I have some

" points " that would pay for some of that). It is a pressure cooker, slow cooker, rice cooker/steamer, cooking pot and soup pot. The main reason that I'm interested is for the pressure cooker function, but I

figure if I'm taking up bench space I'd like it to also do my rice so I can put my rice cooker away, and maybe even the slow cooker. I'm wondering if an electric pressure cooker would just be easier -

everything timed for me etc. Ethically I prefer the idea of the manual one that goes on the stove - uses gas not electricity, will hopefully last a lot longer, etc, but perhaps the electric one would give me some

confidence for using the manual one by the time the electric one breaks down (as I'm sure it will end up doing!). I do like my rice cooker because it also does porridge (oats) nicely and I can put it on in the

mornings for either rice or porridge for the kids for breakfast and I don't have to pay any attention to it. I don't mind doing porridge on the stove, but I don't always have morning time to stand and stir before

school.Interested in opinions on electric pressure cookers and would love to know if anyone has the New wave 5 function cooker http://newwavekitchenappliances.com/catalogue/products/5-1-multi-cooker/multi-cooker-5-1

Fiona

 

[Guest guest]

I've never liked non-stick anything, in part because I've never needed it (it always seemed like a cheat) and I think in part because when I first got married, we had a kosher home and there's no possibility of re-koshering a metal utensil if it has a coating of any kind. It's claimed that they're safe but they just hit me wrong (mind you, this is just me).

Re: Lead, slow cookers, pressure cookers

Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 10:39 PM

I checked it out, that is cool. Has anyone seen that closer than Australia? Maybe less expensive?

Carolyn

In a message dated 3/8/2011 9:58:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, fiona.k@... writes:

Hi all

After the discussion a little while ago lead to lead in slow cookers I

emailed Sunbeam - the brand of my slow cooker - with my model number etc

and asked about lead in my slow cooker. Answer just came back that the

technical dept says that there is no lead in it. Thank goodness.

And pressure cookers - I bought one finally about 2 months ago. I'm

still trying to get use to it. I was hoping it would be simpler then it

is, but I think it is just the lack of instructions that came with it -

I bought it new, but just came with very brief instructions. I'm

finding that things seem to take almost as long as they would without

the pressure cooker because by the time I cook it long enough to "bring

it to pressure" - that is when you start timing. Bringing it to

pressure takes a long time - much longer then the actual cooking time

often, and that's with a good gas stove. Then quite a few recipes say

to leave it to naturally release the pressure (or whatever the wording

is) which again, takes ages.

I think I'm still just getting use to it and it will turn out to be

great, and hoping to get a friend who uses a pressure cooker to come

over and walk me through it so I know if I'm turning it down too soon

etc. I think that would make a huge difference.

Anyway, I've also looked at the New Wave 5 function cooker (I have some

"points" that would pay for some of that). It is a pressure cooker,

slow cooker, rice cooker/steamer, cooking pot and soup pot. The main

reason that I'm interested is for the pressure cooker function, but I

figure if I'm taking up bench space I'd like it to also do my rice so I

can put my rice cooker away, and maybe even the slow cooker. I'm

wondering if an electric pressure cooker would just be easier -

everything timed for me etc. Ethically I prefer the idea of the manual

one that goes on the stove - uses gas not electricity, will hopefully

last a lot longer, etc, but perhaps the electric one would give me some

confidence for using the manual one by the time the electric one breaks

down (as I'm sure it will end up doing!). I do like my rice cooker

because it also does porridge (oats) nicely and I can put it on in the

mornings for either rice or porridge for the kids for breakfast and I

don't have to pay any attention to it. I don't mind doing porridge on

the stove, but I don't always have morning time to stand and stir before

school.

Interested in opinions on electric pressure cookers and would love to

know if anyone has the New wave 5 function cooker

http://newwavekitchenappliances.com/catalogue/products/5-1-multi-cooker/multi-cooker-5-1

Fiona

[Guest guest]

Actually, wondering whether it has a non-stick coating is one of my

main hesitations in getting the New Wave gadget. And its the only

thing that I dislike about my rice cooker.

Fiona

On 9/03/2011 5:59 PM, wrote:

I've never liked non-stick anything, in part

because I've never needed it (it always seemed like a

cheat) and I think in part because when I first got

married, we had a kosher home and there's no possibility

of re-koshering a metal utensil if it has a coating of any

kind. It's claimed that they're safe but they just hit me

wrong (mind you, this is just me).

Re:

Lead, slow

cookers,

pressure

cookers

Date: Tuesday,

March 8, 2011,

10:39 PM

I checked

it out, that

is cool. Has

anyone seen

that closer

than

Australia?

Maybe less

expensive?

Carolyn

In a

message dated

3/8/2011

9:58:30 P.M.

Eastern

Standard Time,

fiona.k@...

writes:

Hi all

After the

discussion a

little while

ago lead to

lead in slow

cookers I

emailed

Sunbeam - the

brand of my

slow cooker -

with my model

number etc

and asked

about lead in

my slow

cooker. Answer

just came back

that the

technical dept

says that

there is no

lead in it.

Thank

goodness.

And pressure

cookers - I

bought one

finally about

2 months ago.

I'm

still trying

to get use to

it. I was

hoping it

would be

simpler then

it

is, but I

think it is

just the lack

of

instructions

that came with

it -

I bought it

new, but just

came with very

brief

instructions.

I'm

finding that

things seem to

take almost as

long as they

would without

the pressure

cooker because

by the time I

cook it long

enough to

"bring

it to

pressure" -

that is when

you start

timing.

Bringing it to

pressure takes

a long time -

much longer

then the

actual cooking

time

often, and

that's with a

good gas

stove. Then

quite a few

recipes say

to leave it to

naturally

release the

pressure (or

whatever the

wording

is) which

again, takes

ages.

I think I'm

still just

getting use to

it and it will

turn out to be

great, and

hoping to get

a friend who

uses a

pressure

cooker to come

over and walk

me through it

so I know if

I'm turning it

down too soon

etc. I think

that would

make a huge

difference.

Anyway, I've

also looked at

the New Wave 5

function

cooker (I have

some

"points" that

would pay for

some of that).

It is a

pressure

cooker,

slow cooker,

rice

cooker/steamer,

cooking pot

and soup pot.

The main

reason that

I'm interested

is for the

pressure

cooker

function, but

I

figure if I'm

taking up

bench space

I'd like it to

also do my

rice so I

can put my

rice cooker

away, and

maybe even the

slow cooker.

I'm

wondering if

an electric

pressure

cooker would

just be easier

-

everything

timed for me

etc. Ethically

I prefer the

idea of the

manual

one that goes

on the stove -

uses gas not

electricity,

will hopefully

last a lot

longer, etc,

but perhaps

the electric

one would give

me some

confidence for

using the

manual one by

the time the

electric one

breaks

down (as I'm

sure it will

end up

doing!). I do

like my rice

cooker

because it

also does

porridge

(oats) nicely

and I can put

it on in the

mornings for

either rice or

porridge for

the kids for

breakfast and

I

don't have to

pay any

attention to

it. I don't

mind doing

porridge on

the stove, but

I don't always

have morning

time to stand

and stir

before

school.

Interested in

opinions on

electric

pressure

cookers and

would love to

know if anyone

has the New

wave 5

function

cooker

http://newwavekitchenappliances.com/catalogue/products/5-1-multi-cooker/multi-cooker-5-1

Fiona

[Guest guest]

Oh, but I think a red option IS a good excuse! We can use it as decor instead of what it is intended for! Gotta love things that do double duty-justifies the price.

From: ocarolyn1@... <ocarolyn1@...>Subject: Re: Lead, slow cookers, pressure cookers Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 10:39 PM

I checked it out, that is cool. Has anyone seen that closer than Australia? Maybe less expensive?

Carolyn

In a message dated 3/8/2011 9:58:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, fiona.k@... writes:

Hi allAfter the discussion a little while ago lead to lead in slow cookers I emailed Sunbeam - the brand of my slow cooker - with my model number etc and asked about lead in my slow cooker. Answer just came back that the technical dept says that there is no lead in it. Thank goodness.And pressure cookers - I bought one finally about 2 months ago. I'm still trying to get use to it. I was hoping it would be simpler then it is, but I think it is just the lack of instructions that came with it - I bought it new, but just came with very brief instructions. I'm finding that things seem to take almost as long as they would without the pressure cooker because by the time I cook it long enough to "bring it to pressure" - that is when you start timing. Bringing it to pressure takes a long time - much longer then the actual cooking time often, and that's with a good gas stove. Then quite a few recipes

say to leave it to naturally release the pressure (or whatever the wording is) which again, takes ages.I think I'm still just getting use to it and it will turn out to be great, and hoping to get a friend who uses a pressure cooker to come over and walk me through it so I know if I'm turning it down too soon etc. I think that would make a huge difference.Anyway, I've also looked at the New Wave 5 function cooker (I have some "points" that would pay for some of that). It is a pressure cooker, slow cooker, rice cooker/steamer, cooking pot and soup pot. The main reason that I'm interested is for the pressure cooker function, but I figure if I'm taking up bench space I'd like it to also do my rice so I can put my rice cooker away, and maybe even the slow cooker. I'm wondering if an electric pressure cooker would just be easier - everything timed for me etc. Ethically I prefer the idea of the

manual one that goes on the stove - uses gas not electricity, will hopefully last a lot longer, etc, but perhaps the electric one would give me some confidence for using the manual one by the time the electric one breaks down (as I'm sure it will end up doing!). I do like my rice cooker because it also does porridge (oats) nicely and I can put it on in the mornings for either rice or porridge for the kids for breakfast and I don't have to pay any attention to it. I don't mind doing porridge on the stove, but I don't always have morning time to stand and stir before school.Interested in opinions on electric pressure cookers and would love to know if anyone has the New wave 5 function cooker http://newwavekitchenappliances.com/catalogue/products/5-1-multi-cooker/multi-cooker-5-1Fiona

[Guest guest]

Hey . Do you have a link to show your cooker with the ceramic insert? You

may have posted previously, but I'm on the digest and can't easily follow the

message trail.

Beth

[Guest guest]

I don't have a picture of my ancient setup but here's a link to a vendor for the insert: http://shop.goldminenaturalfoods.com/Cookware/products/47/ (you might be able to find them a little cheaper elsewhere). Mine is older and different (cream-colored with no handle) and I bought it locally; assuming that the clay used is the same, I prefer the newer ones if only because the rope handle allows you to remove them from the pot more easily. I guess you need to know your pressure cooker's dimensions to ensure you buy the correct size.

I LOVE mine; I had two but broke the top of the smaller one and waited too long to replace it (its proportions are different than the newer models). It makes perfect rice--just like what you'd get in a restaurant. Mind you, I like my little Comet rice steamer that I picked up on eBay a while back but it's really more for show--for some reason, this seems to give the rice a nicer flavor as well in a way I can't really put my finger on.

Re: Lead, slow cookers, pressure cookers

Hey . Do you have a link to show your cooker with the ceramic insert? You may have posted previously, but I'm on the digest and can't easily follow the message trail.

Beth

[Guest guest]

It's not the clay but the glaze that is important. They sell kits to test for

lead too, though some of us canary in the coal mine people might be sensitive

enough to have a problem with very tiny amounts.

Page

>

> I don't have a picture of my ancient setup but here's a link to a vendor for

the insert: http://shop.goldminenaturalfoods.com/Cookware/products/47/ (you

might be able to find them a little cheaper elsewhere). Mine is older and

different (cream-colored with no handle) and I bought it locally; assuming that

the clay used is the same, I prefer the newer ones if only because the rope

handle allows you to remove them from the pot more easily. I guess you need to

know your pressure cooker's dimensions to ensure you buy the correct size.

> I LOVE mine; I had two but broke the top of the smaller one and waited too

long to replace it (its proportions are different than the newer models). It

makes perfect rice--just like what you'd get in a restaurant. Mind you, I like

my little Comet rice steamer that I picked up on eBay a while back but it's

really more for show--for some reason, this seems to give the rice a nicer

flavor as well in a way I can't really put my finger on.

>

[Guest guest]

No, the clay can be a very big issue too-much of the clay is mined in countries where there is lot of factory run off, and no regulation to oversee anything. I was devastated to part with my extensive Romertopf and other clay over sets, but the clays all tested high for lead...and they were unglazed. From: Sunshine <lightlady27@...>Subject: Re: Lead, slow cookers, pressure cookers Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 8:31 PM

It's not the clay but the glaze that is important. They sell kits to test for lead too, though some of us canary in the coal mine people might be sensitive enough to have a problem with very tiny amounts.

Page

>

> I don't have a picture of my ancient setup but here's a link to a vendor for the insert: http://shop.goldminenaturalfoods.com/Cookware/products/47/ (you might be able to find them a little cheaper elsewhere). Mine is older and different (cream-colored with no handle) and I bought it locally; assuming that the clay used is the same, I prefer the newer ones if only because the rope handle allows you to remove them from the pot more easily. I guess you need to know your pressure cooker's dimensions to ensure you buy the correct size.

> I LOVE mine; I had two but broke the top of the smaller one and waited too long to replace it (its proportions are different than the newer models). It makes perfect rice--just like what you'd get in a restaurant. Mind you, I like my little Comet rice steamer that I picked up on eBay a while back but it's really more for show--for some reason, this seems to give the rice a nicer flavor as well in a way I can't really put my finger on.

>

[Guest guest]

Doesn't seem too expensive for those that are lead sensitive:

http://www.leadinspector.com/?gclid=CIGD6-nxwqcCFcNM4AodLHTRDw

Chuck

You cannot kill time without injuring eternity

On 3/9/2011 8:31:51 PM, Sunshine (lightlady27@...) wrote:

> It's not the clay but the glaze that is important. They sell kits to test for

lead too, though some of us canary in the coal mine people might be sensitive

enough to have a problem with very tiny amounts.

>

> Page

>

>

> >

> > I don't

> have a picture of my ancient setup but

> here's a link to a vendor for the insert:

http://shop.goldminenaturalfoods.com/Cookware/products/47/ (you might be able to

find them a little cheaper elsewhere). Mine is older and

[Guest guest]

For unglazed things, yep it is a problem but not for glazed unless there are

cracks in the glaze. Guess I didn't make that clear.

Page

>

> No, the clay can be a very big issue too-much of the clay is mined in

countries where there is  lot of factory run off, and no regulation to oversee

anything.  I was devastated to part with my extensive Romertopf and other clay

over sets, but the clays all tested high for lead...and they were unglazed. 

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My guess is that the Ohsawa pots are safe--it's a very health-oriented company (by their standards, anyway--I don't think the macrobiotic diet is particularly healthful).

Re: Lead, slow cookers, pressure cookers

For unglazed things, yep it is a problem but not for glazed unless there are cracks in the glaze. Guess I didn't make that clear.

Page

>

> No, the clay can be a very big issue too-much of the clay is mined in countries where there is lot of factory run off, and no regulation to oversee anything. I was devastated to part with my extensive Romertopf and other clay over sets, but the clays all tested high for lead...and they were unglazed.Â

>

>

[Guest guest]

I used to stop by Gold Mine now and again when I lived closer, such nice people.

I can't imagine them selling anything that had lead in it. The clay often does,

and many glazes do as well but the glaze is like glass on the surface of the

clay so no leaching will occur. I've wondered about lead crystal, drinking wine

from it? But that I don't know about. I have done pottery on the wheel quite a

lot however.

I never got the macrobiotic either, but I have come to the conclusion that we

are all very different!

Page

>

> My guess is that the Ohsawa pots are safe--it's a very health-oriented

company (by their standards, anyway--I don't think the macrobiotic diet is

particularly healthful).

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[Guest guest]

I doubt that ANY company intentionally sold lead. I stumbled across the idea years back not only when I was having issues after cooking in my stoneware or crocks, but when I was researching a type of clay to use as a shampoo. My research led me to realizing that A LOT of "clay" contained lead. This is actually before it started coming to light that a good deal of cookware, plates, dishes, coffee mugs, etc. contain lead. So many companies order their base ingredients without knowing what is in them. I contacted ALL of the major manufacturers like Sunbeam, Rival, Black and Decker, etc. NONE of them could tell me if their products contained lead, and most couldn't even tell me where their clay bases came from! It was only after a few health scares that the lead issue started getting more attention. I do know that some

manufacturers STILL don't know where their stuff comes from-glazes, clays, etc. I have learned to avoid "made in China" stuff as much as I can when it comes to things I cook in, eat off of, or store things in. For me, it is more than a health "concern", but with an allergy, I have to be more vigilant.From: Sunshine <lightlady27@...>Subject: Re: Lead, slow cookers, pressure cookers Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 9:53 PM

I used to stop by Gold Mine now and again when I lived closer, such nice people. I can't imagine them selling anything that had lead in it. The clay often does, and many glazes do as well but the glaze is like glass on the surface of the clay so no leaching will occur. I've wondered about lead crystal, drinking wine from it? But that I don't know about. I have done pottery on the wheel quite a lot however.

I never got the macrobiotic either, but I have come to the conclusion that we are all very different!

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Different is right and I'll admit that there are many macrobiotic dishes that I really enjoy--I just don't think much of it as a lifestyle. But it has its adherents and some people do well on it. Personally, I don't get a regimen that eschews fresh fruit and veggies and has so much sodium (in the form of shoya and tamari) but I'm not one to sing my objections from the rafters (that libertarianism again).

Lucky you to have been to Gold Mine! I remember talking to the owner once on the phone MANY years ago (maybe around 1990?)--she was pregnant at the time and the business was just taking off. I'm very glad that it has become established although I think she and her husband may have split in the meantime. At that time, there were two grades of Ohsawa toasted sesame oil (one darker than the other) and several different shoyus from different artisanal producers--they've been down to one each for many years now. Oh, well. I guess the market decides.

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I used to stop by Gold Mine now and again when I lived closer, such nice people. I can't imagine them selling anything that had lead in it. The clay often does, and many glazes do as well but the glaze is like glass on the surface of the clay so no leaching will occur. I've wondered about lead crystal, drinking wine from it? But that I don't know about. I have done pottery on the wheel quite a lot however.

I never got the macrobiotic either, but I have come to the conclusion that we are all very different!

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> My guess is that the Ohsawa pots are safe--it's a very health-oriented company (by their standards, anyway--I don't think the macrobiotic diet is particularly healthful).

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Around here I suppose we get things from Mexico but it's a good idea to buy test

kits (which are sold right next to the stoneware here) and test things. You

just never know especially with things from China ya. I remember diatomaceous

earth was used as a cal supplement prior to their discovery that it had more

lead than people needed to be taking. Fads come and go I guess huh?

I keep looking at the current level of precautions for mercury and remember

playing with the stuff as a child, coating pennies with it and suchlike. None

of us needs more heavy metals!

And since I've lost the posts and looking to expedite, Jimmy Buffett fell off a

stage in Sydney in January, presume he's ok. I wondered when I read about his

fall if it were some corollary to the material for his songs, though I do love

them.

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> I doubt that ANY company intentionally sold lead.  I stumbled across the idea

years back not only when I was having issues after cooking in my stoneware or

crocks, but when I was researching a type of clay to use as a shampoo.  My

research led me to realizing that A LOT of " clay " contained lead.  This is

actually before it started coming to light that a good deal of cookware, plates,

dishes, coffee mugs, etc. contain lead.  So many companies order their base

ingredients without knowing what is in them.  I contacted ALL of the major

manufacturers like Sunbeam, Rival, Black and Decker, etc. NONE of them could

tell me if their products contained lead, and most couldn't even tell me where

their clay bases came from!  It was only after a few health scares that the

lead issue started getting more attention.  I do know that some manufacturers

STILL don't know where their stuff comes from-glazes, clays, etc.  I have

learned to avoid " made in China " stuff

> as much as I can when it comes to things I cook in, eat off of, or store

things in.  For me, it is more than a health " concern " , but with an allergy, I

have to be more vigilant.

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Oh, I used to LOVE to play with mercury when I was a kid! Who knew? Amazing that we all survived (I say this with not a little sarcasm).

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Around here I suppose we get things from Mexico but it's a good idea to buy test kits (which are sold right next to the stoneware here) and test things. You just never know especially with things from China ya. I remember diatomaceous earth was used as a cal supplement prior to their discovery that it had more lead than people needed to be taking. Fads come and go I guess huh?

I keep looking at the current level of precautions for mercury and remember playing with the stuff as a child, coating pennies with it and suchlike. None of us needs more heavy metals!

And since I've lost the posts and looking to expedite, Jimmy Buffett fell off a stage in Sydney in January, presume he's ok. I wondered when I read about his fall if it were some corollary to the material for his songs, though I do love them.

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> I doubt that ANY company intentionally sold lead. I stumbled across the idea years back not only when I was having issues after cooking in my stoneware or crocks, but when I was researching a type of clay to use as a shampoo. My research led me to realizing that A LOT of "clay" contained lead. This is actually before it started coming to light that a good deal of cookware, plates, dishes, coffee mugs, etc. contain lead. So many companies order their base ingredients without knowing what is in them. I contacted ALL of the major manufacturers like Sunbeam, Rival, Black and Decker, etc. NONE of them could tell me if their products contained lead, and most couldn't even tell me where their clay bases came from! It was only after a few health scares that the lead issue started getting more attention. I do know that some manufacturers STILL don't know where their stuff comes from-glazes, clays, etc. I have learned to avoid "made in China" stuff

> as much as I can when it comes to things I cook in, eat off of, or store things in. For me, it is more than a health "concern", but with an allergy, I have to be more vigilant.

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I've wondered if that might be partially what's wrong with the world. I also

wonder what we are doing now that will be scary and horrible and unacceptable 20

years from now (assuming humanity has not figured out how to kill us all off, of

course) or perhaps next week. Human beans. (shaking head sadly)

Tongue in cheek, amusedly...

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> Oh, I used to LOVE to play with mercury when I was a kid! Who knew? Amazing

that we all survived (I say this with not a little sarcasm).

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Yes, wherever would we be without The Enlightened protecting us from ourselves? Let's face it: if left to our own devices, pretty much every type of activity in which we engage is scary and horrible and unacceptable. I'm so glad they exist. However would I determine what to do without them?

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I've wondered if that might be partially what's wrong with the world. I also wonder what we are doing now that will be scary and horrible and unacceptable 20 years from now (assuming humanity has not figured out how to kill us all off, of course) or perhaps next week. Human beans. (shaking head sadly)

Tongue in cheek, amusedly...

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> Oh, I used to LOVE to play with mercury when I was a kid! Who knew? Amazing that we all survived (I say this with not a little sarcasm).

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sigh....

Actually it's true for most everything there is an exception and things depend

on how you look at them often. I like to think it's sort of like a candle

versus a big stadium light. We use a candle, (in how much we know about

something) and we are likely missing a lot of stuff that is in the back of the

warehouse, right? It's there but we can't see it. And it seems to me that

truth can be like a mirror ball, it surely does depend at times on where you are

standing. Just my opinion of course.

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> Yes, wherever would we be without The Enlightened protecting us from

ourselves? Let's face it: if left to our own devices, pretty much every type of

activity in which we engage is scary and horrible and unacceptable. I'm so glad

they exist. However would I determine what to do without them?

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