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I can vouch for turmeric as an anti-inflammatory. I've always had to take 2 NSAIDS (I took Ibuprofen) and one in the morning during shows. This current show I switched to turmeric. I mix 1 tsp with some coconut oil (because I read that it is absorbed better if it is taken with an oil) and 3 drops of liquid stevia to help the taste then consume 1/4 tsp. spread out over the day. I've done this whole show feeling just like I'd taken my usual 3 Ibuprofens per day. Where Ibuprofen is bad for your liver, turmeric is actually GOOD for it!

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<:)))><

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Hi Lea Ann, could you please elaborate a little more on this recipe?.  What form was the turmeric in, and was it a commercial prep or something you made from fresh turmeric?  About how much coconut oil for the 1 tsp of turmeric?  About how much turmeric are you consuming for the entire day?  I get a great deal of relief from the use of ibuprofen, but I can hardly use it because I get stomach issues.  I'd like to try turmeric to see if it helps my arthritic knees.  Thanks for any additional info; sorry for so many questions.  Arlene in Ohio

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I can vouch for turmeric as an anti-inflammatory.  I've always had to take 2 NSAIDS (I took Ibuprofen) and one in the morning during shows.  This current show I switched to turmeric.  I mix 1 tsp with some coconut oil (because I read that it is absorbed better if it is taken with an oil) and 3 drops of liquid stevia to help the taste then consume 1/4 tsp. spread out over the day.  I've done this whole show feeling just like I'd taken my usual 3 Ibuprofens per day.  Where Ibuprofen is bad for your liver, turmeric is actually GOOD for it!

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)www.VitamixLady.comwww..com

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I am on a combination of boswella, tumeric and ginger for my herniated discs and

arthritis in my spine and it has been wonderful. Everything has gone away.

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Useful info thanks.

Lea Ann.  I think you already mentioned you are gluten free. How

much fish oil do you take?

I find that it helps if I remember to take it.

Fish oil calculator here. (I'd go with the all banged up dosage to

start)

http://whole9life.com/fish-oil/

Tony

On 3/5/2011 7:09 PM, Lea Ann Savage wrote:

 

I can vouch for turmeric as an anti-inflammatory.  I've

always had to take 2 NSAIDS (I took Ibuprofen) and one in

the morning during shows.  This current show I switched to

turmeric.  I mix 1 tsp with some coconut oil (because I

read that it is absorbed better if it is taken with an

oil) and 3 drops of liquid stevia to help the taste then

consume 1/4 tsp. spread out over the day.  I've done this

whole show feeling just like I'd taken my usual 3

Ibuprofens per day.  Where Ibuprofen is bad for your

liver, turmeric is actually GOOD for it!

Blessings,

Lea Ann Savage

Satellite Beach, FL

(321) 773-7088 (home)

(321-961-9219 (cell)

www.VitamixLady.com

www..com

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http://www.mrsmangoandcompany.com/id2.html

This is what I have been using since Sept. and they are wonderful!

incense, Tumeric, & Ginger

The biblical herb frankincense, now known generally as Boswellia, provides a

natural version of glucosamine. Like the supplement, it helps strengthen and

repair cartilage. Tumeric, the yellow indian spice, contains the pigment

circumin. Researchers have found that the influence of this potent

anti-inflammatory rivals non steroidal prescription drugs. If you have stiff,

achy joints, take these herbs together. There have been no reported side effects

which led to discontinuing of its use. We have found that sufferers of lupus,

arthritis, rheumatism, fibromyalgia, herniated disks, carpal tunnel, hip pain,

knee pain, lower back pain, ulcers, and a variety of other diseases relating to

the swelling of a body system have all benefited tremendously from these

capsules

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How much do you take a day? The website doesn't state.

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This is what I have been using since Sept. and they are wonderful!

incense, Tumeric, & Ginger

The biblical herb frankincense, now known generally as Boswellia, provides a natural version of glucosamine. Like the supplement, it helps strengthen and repair cartilage. Tumeric, the yellow indian spice, contains the pigment circumin. Researchers have found that the influence of this potent anti-inflammatory rivals non steroidal prescription drugs. If you have stiff, achy joints, take these herbs together. There have been no reported side effects which led to discontinuing of its use. We have found that sufferers of lupus, arthritis, rheumatism, fibromyalgia, herniated disks, carpal tunnel, hip pain, knee pain, lower back pain, ulcers, and a variety of other diseases relating to the swelling of a body system have all benefited tremendously from these capsules

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Hello Arlene,I spent a couple of hours doing Google searches on all things Turmeric. turmeric anti-inflamatoryhttp://www.google.com/search?client=safari & rls=en & q=turmeric+++anti-inflamatory & ie=UTF-8 & oe=UTF-8turmeric vs. NSAIDShttp://www.google.com/search?client=safari & rls=en & q=turmeric+vs.+nsaids & ie=UTF-8 & oe=UTF-8turmeric dosehttp://www.google.com/search?client=safari & rls=en & q=turmeric+dose & ie=UTF-8 & oe=UTF-8and for you I Googled turmeric remedy arthritis:http://www.google.com/search?client=safari & rls=en & q=turmeric+remedy++arthritis & ie=UTF-8 & oe=UTF-8There are so many different ways to take turmeric - you should come up with what works best for you and see how your body responds. The traditional fat that people take turmeric (aka curcumin) with is in the form of milk - you will find recipes in your own Google searches. I'm not supposed to take milk with my current diet plan, but can have the cream of milk so will be trying some cream + stevia + turmeric next. I have been taking 1 tsp. per day of the turmeric that I purchased in the organic section of my grocery store mixed with just enough coconut oil to make a paste. This was my own concoction because the first day I hadn't read the info. on its being absorbed better with fat and had been taking 1/4 tsp 4x per day of just the powder - swished down with my water. Yesterday I did the coconut oil thing and today I'm going to mix 1 tsp. of turmeric with only 4 tsps. of cream so I can take 4 - 1 tsp. doses throughout the day.

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<:)))><

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Hi Lea Ann, could you please elaborate a little more on this recipe?. What form was the turmeric in, and was it a commercial prep or something you made from fresh turmeric? About how much coconut oil for the 1 tsp of turmeric? About how much turmeric are you consuming for the entire day? I get a great deal of relief from the use of ibuprofen, but I can hardly use it because I get stomach issues. I'd like to try turmeric to see if it helps my arthritic knees. Thanks for any additional info; sorry for so many questions. Arlene in Ohio

On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Lea Ann Savage <lsavage@...> wrote:

I can vouch for turmeric as an anti-inflammatory. I've always had to take 2 NSAIDS (I took Ibuprofen) and one in the morning during shows. This current show I switched to turmeric. I mix 1 tsp with some coconut oil (because I read that it is absorbed better if it is taken with an oil) and 3 drops of liquid stevia to help the taste then consume 1/4 tsp. spread out over the day. I've done this whole show feeling just like I'd taken my usual 3 Ibuprofens per day. Where Ibuprofen is bad for your liver, turmeric is actually GOOD for it!

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)www.VitamixLady.comwww..com

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Hey Tony - I too found that calculator and have been taking the "all banged up dose" ever since :-)

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<:)))><

On Mar 5, 2011, at 11:17 PM, Tony Szpara wrote:

Useful info thanks.

Lea Ann. I think you already mentioned you are gluten free. How

much fish oil do you take?

I find that it helps if I remember to take it.

Fish oil calculator here. (I'd go with the all banged up dosage to

start)

http://whole9life.com/fish-oil/

Tony

On 3/5/2011 7:09 PM, Lea Ann Savage wrote:

I can vouch for turmeric as an anti-inflammatory. I've

always had to take 2 NSAIDS (I took Ibuprofen) and one in

the morning during shows. This current show I switched to

turmeric. I mix 1 tsp with some coconut oil (because I

read that it is absorbed better if it is taken with an

oil) and 3 drops of liquid stevia to help the taste then

consume 1/4 tsp. spread out over the day. I've done this

whole show feeling just like I'd taken my usual 3

Ibuprofens per day. Where Ibuprofen is bad for your

liver, turmeric is actually GOOD for it!

Blessings,

Lea Ann Savage

Satellite Beach, FL

(321) 773-7088 (home)

(321-961-9219 (cell)

www.VitamixLady.com

www..com

<:)))><

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WOW - Mrs. Mango is famous around here (she lives in my county :-) Small World!

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<:)))><

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This is what I have been using since Sept. and they are wonderful!

incense, Tumeric, & Ginger

The biblical herb frankincense, now known generally as Boswellia, provides a natural version of glucosamine. Like the supplement, it helps strengthen and repair cartilage. Tumeric, the yellow indian spice, contains the pigment circumin. Researchers have found that the influence of this potent anti-inflammatory rivals non steroidal prescription drugs. If you have stiff, achy joints, take these herbs together. There have been no reported side effects which led to discontinuing of its use. We have found that sufferers of lupus, arthritis, rheumatism, fibromyalgia, herniated disks, carpal tunnel, hip pain, knee pain, lower back pain, ulcers, and a variety of other diseases relating to the swelling of a body system have all benefited tremendously from these capsules

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From the outside of her building, you are almost afraid to step inside, but once

in, it is a totally wonderful experience. She might even do mail order. I have

shared this particular pill with several of my friends and they say they have

felt better. Only one who has shoulder pain was not helped. So I know it is

not a miracle for all, but it has helped me with absolutely no stomach side

effects.

Have you ever been, Lea Ann?

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She recommends you start with two pills and go down to one. I also do fresh

ginger in the smoothie. I sort of tend to overdo things so I can't vouch for

amounts. All I know, is I feel it has been a big part of my recovery and

maintenance. Good luck if you try it. I also know you can purchase boswella

separately, not from her but from other places.

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I rarely take mine as I hate the taste.  (Even the lemon flavored

ones)

I get sick on fish or seafood so I'm a little more sensitive to the

taste than most.

Been putting it in my smoothies and have seen some good results in

just a few days.

Tony

On 3/6/2011 5:26 AM, Lea Ann Savage wrote:

 

Hey Tony - I too found that calculator and have been

taking the "all banged up dose" ever since :-)

Blessings,

Lea Ann Savage

Satellite Beach, FL

(321) 773-7088 (home)

(321-961-9219 (cell)

www.VitamixLady.com

www..com

<:)))><

On Mar 5, 2011, at 11:17 PM, Tony Szpara wrote:

 

Useful info thanks.

Lea Ann.  I think you already mentioned you are

gluten free. How much fish oil do you take?

I find that it helps if I remember to take it.

Fish oil calculator here. (I'd go with the all

banged up dosage to start)

http://whole9life.com/fish-oil/

Tony

On 3/5/2011 7:09 PM, Lea Ann Savage wrote:

 

I can vouch for turmeric as an

anti-inflammatory.  I've always had to take

2 NSAIDS (I took Ibuprofen) and one in the

morning during shows.  This current show I

switched to turmeric.  I mix 1 tsp with some

coconut oil (because I read that it is

absorbed better if it is taken with an oil)

and 3 drops of liquid stevia to help the

taste then consume 1/4 tsp. spread out over

the day.  I've done this whole show feeling

just like I'd taken my usual 3 Ibuprofens

per day.  Where Ibuprofen is bad for your

liver, turmeric is actually GOOD for it!

Blessings,

Lea Ann Savage

Satellite Beach, FL

(321) 773-7088 (home)

(321-961-9219 (cell)

www.VitamixLady.com

www..com

<:)))><

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Haven't yet, but might soon! I know where her shop is. Where do you live?

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<:)))><

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From the outside of her building, you are almost afraid to step inside, but once in, it is a totally wonderful experience. She might even do mail order. I have shared this particular pill with several of my friends and they say they have felt better. Only one who has shoulder pain was not helped. So I know it is not a miracle for all, but it has helped me with absolutely no stomach side effects.

Have you ever been, Lea Ann?

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Those who take fish oil should be aware that most fish oil comes from factory farmed fish, which are fed a steady diet of antibiotics, growth hormones, steroids, etc., and the fish are fed a totally unnatural diet high in grains, corn, soy and other things fish in the wild would have no access too (unnatural diet keeps the fish unhealthy, thus the extra medications in the feed) Dyes are often added to the farmed fish diet as well. ALL of that ends up in the fish and resulting fish oil. Many companies claim to use "wild CAUGHT" fish-a claim often made when fish are CAUGHT while they are spawn, but RAISED in fish farms. Fish oil is highly concentrated so there may be way more of this stuff present than you realize. Personally, I think one is better off getting their omegas from ground flax seed, which is easily ground in the VM and

can be added to soooooooooo many things. Great baked into muffins and quick breads, perfect as a thickener and egg substitute, and no need for some artificial flavor to make it palatable!

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brenda can you give me your opinion on this product  http://www.newchapter.com/fish-oili just started taking it thinking i would benefit.  thanks.

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Those who take fish oil should be aware that most fish oil comes from factory farmed fish, which are fed a steady diet of antibiotics, growth hormones, steroids, etc., and the fish are fed a totally unnatural diet high in grains, corn, soy and other things fish in the wild would have no access too (unnatural diet keeps the fish unhealthy, thus the extra medications in the feed)  Dyes are often added to the farmed fish diet as well.  ALL of that ends up in the fish and resulting fish oil.  Many companies claim to use " wild CAUGHT " fish-a claim often made when fish are CAUGHT while they are spawn, but RAISED in fish farms.  Fish oil is highly concentrated so there may be way more of this stuff present than you realize.  Personally, I think one is better off getting their omegas from ground flax seed, which is easily ground in the VM and

can be added to soooooooooo many things.  Great baked into muffins and quick breads, perfect as a thickener and egg substitute, and no need for some artificial flavor to make it palatable! 

 

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Sure, Pam, I will give you MY opinion, but remember-it is just that, my opinion. I have no basis to be an expert here, but this is my impression. In reading through their website, there is A LOT of deceptive and inaccurate information. If they will twist the truth on one thing, they will on another. First, they claim their fish comes from the "pristine waters" of Alaska. There is no such thing as pristine water anywhere on our planet. It is all contaminated, largely by the companies who over harvest it in an effort to mass produce these products in the first place. If fishing boats are able to get there to harvest it, trust that the water is far from pristine. Second, they make a lot of claims about it being wild "caught", not wild raised. This is a common deceptive marketing practice among companies.

They catch the fish as spawn, which is enough to define it as wild "caught", but they raise the spawn in intensively farmed tanks. I am NOT saying THIS company does this, just that their choice of wording leads me to believe that they do. They are also largely inaccurate and misleading in their FAQ page about addressing allergens, which again, leads me to believe that their bottom line, and NOT the health and welfare of the consumer is their only priority. Again, this is just my opinion. Also, even if the fish they use IS wild caught, most wild caught fish contains high levels of mercury and other heavy metals, which would not be of huge concern if you were just enjoying a piece of fish for dinner, but IS a concern if you are ingesting large, concentrated amounts of it such as you would in a supplement. I am still of the mindset that organic flax is a better choice for omegas. I have unfortunately HAD to learn the ins

and outs of truth in marketing, due to being nearly killed by deceptive marketing many, many times. I do not trust companies that are cavalier in their dismissal of food allergens, since it shows a disregard for the health of many-and I see that clearly with this company.

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ty brenda for the informative response.  my husband also takes this for his high cholesterol and is very stubborn about dietary changes....another whole story..would the ground flax seed suffice for this issue.  the doctor recommended this (fish oil) and he has been taking it for some time.  i realize you are not a doctor and this is just your opinion but i value that opinion a great deal!  ty.  pam

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Sure, Pam, I will give you MY opinion, but remember-it is just that, my opinion.  I have no basis to be an expert here, but this is my impression.  In reading through their website, there is A LOT of deceptive and inaccurate information.  If they will twist the truth on one thing, they will on another.  First, they claim their fish comes from the " pristine waters " of Alaska.  There is no such thing as pristine water anywhere on our planet.  It is all contaminated, largely by the companies who over harvest it in an effort to mass produce these products in the first place.  If fishing boats are able to get there to harvest it, trust that the water is far from pristine.  Second, they make a lot of claims about it being wild " caught " , not wild raised.  This is a common deceptive marketing practice among companies. 

They catch the fish as spawn, which is enough to define it as wild " caught " , but they raise the spawn in intensively farmed tanks.  I am NOT saying THIS company does this, just that their choice of wording leads me to believe that they do.  They are also largely inaccurate and misleading in their FAQ page about addressing allergens, which again, leads me to believe that their bottom line, and NOT the health and welfare of the consumer is their only priority.  Again, this is just my opinion.  Also, even if the fish they use IS wild caught, most wild caught fish contains high levels of mercury and other heavy metals, which would not be of huge concern if you were just enjoying a piece of fish for dinner, but IS a concern if you are ingesting large, concentrated amounts of it such as you would in a supplement.  I am still of the mindset that organic flax is a better choice for omegas.  I have unfortunately HAD to learn the ins

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In my opinion, doctors push fish oil just like they push all of their other pills. It is MUCH easier AND tastier to get the same benefits from flax. Keep in mind, that NO pill or supplement is going to undo the effects of a bad diet to start with, but I bet hubby would be quite happy munching a delicious muffin with flax hidden in it than he would be swallowing an expensive pill. Flax is so easy to add to many, many things. I know you are aware that I am NOT suggesting you ignore his doc, so I won't bother with my "disclaimer", but my own mother was swallowing loads of cholesterol/triglyceride lowering drugs and fish oils for YEARS-with no change in results. Once I (gently) convinced her to try things my way, and she started using flax, her doctor was astounded at the improvement (almost immediate at that) in her blood tests, and

wanted to know what she had done differently. ALL she had done was start adding flax to her daily diet, and she quickly discovered that flax baked into a muffin is WAY better than an expensive pill that creates fishy farts!! It is every so easy to mix up a healthy batter for muffins, full of good stuff like oats, flax, sunflower seeds, walnuts, etc (you can have fun creating here) in your Vitamix. Hubby thinks he is getting a yummy treat, when really he is getting his dose of health promoting "medicine".

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brenda another question- since you had a chance to look at the company as well.. i get a multi from them and am wondering if there is any reputable company you would recommend for a multi vitamin or is your position no multi needed if you eat correctly?  actually anyone on the list plz jump in.  ty so much! pam

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Sure, Pam, I will give you MY opinion, but remember-it is just that, my opinion.  I have no basis to be an expert here, but this is my impression.  In reading through their website, there is A LOT of deceptive and inaccurate information.  If they will twist the truth on one thing, they will on another.  First, they claim their fish comes from the " pristine waters " of Alaska.  There is no such thing as pristine water anywhere on our planet.  It is all contaminated, largely by the companies who over harvest it in an effort to mass produce these products in the first place.  If fishing boats are able to get there to harvest it, trust that the water is far from pristine.  Second, they make a lot of claims about it being wild " caught " , not wild raised.  This is a common deceptive marketing practice among companies. 

They catch the fish as spawn, which is enough to define it as wild " caught " , but they raise the spawn in intensively farmed tanks.  I am NOT saying THIS company does this, just that their choice of wording leads me to believe that they do.  They are also largely inaccurate and misleading in their FAQ page about addressing allergens, which again, leads me to believe that their bottom line, and NOT the health and welfare of the consumer is their only priority.  Again, this is just my opinion.  Also, even if the fish they use IS wild caught, most wild caught fish contains high levels of mercury and other heavy metals, which would not be of huge concern if you were just enjoying a piece of fish for dinner, but IS a concern if you are ingesting large, concentrated amounts of it such as you would in a supplement.  I am still of the mindset that organic flax is a better choice for omegas.  I have unfortunately HAD to learn the ins

and outs of truth in marketing, due to being nearly killed by deceptive marketing many, many times.  I do not trust companies that are cavalier in their dismissal of food allergens, since it shows a disregard for the health of many-and I see that clearly with this company.

 

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can you tell me what you started with  for your mom in terms of a recipe?  i will start with that..he has another check up in 4 months ...he just came from one so the timing is good.  hugs! ty.

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In my opinion, doctors push fish oil just like they push all of their other pills.  It is MUCH easier AND tastier to get the same benefits from flax.  Keep in mind, that NO pill or supplement is going to undo the effects of a bad diet to start with, but I bet hubby would be quite happy munching a delicious muffin with flax hidden in it than he would be swallowing an expensive pill.  Flax is so easy to add to many, many things.  I know you are aware that I am NOT suggesting you ignore his doc, so I won't bother with my " disclaimer " , but my own mother was swallowing loads of cholesterol/triglyceride lowering drugs and fish oils for YEARS-with no change in results.  Once I (gently) convinced her to try things my way, and she started using flax, her doctor was astounded at the improvement (almost immediate at that) in her blood tests, and

wanted to know what she had done differently.  ALL she had done was start adding flax to her daily diet, and she quickly discovered that flax baked into a muffin is WAY better than an expensive pill that creates fishy farts!!   It is every so easy to mix up a healthy batter for muffins, full of good stuff like oats, flax, sunflower seeds, walnuts, etc (you can have fun creating here) in your Vitamix.  Hubby thinks he is getting a yummy treat, when really he is getting his dose of health promoting " medicine " . 

 

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I am absolutely of the mindset that one can get ALL of their Vitamins through diet alone. I do recognize that it is not always possible, even for me. I don't take supplements of ANY kind, due to allergies, but I do give my daughter a supplement when I feel that she hasn't had time to get proper nutrition through food (this is rare, but I do keep some on hand for her) I do think PILL forms of supplements are a total waste of time and money-they often pass right on through undigested. If a supplement is needed, I think a good LIQUID vitamin is a better choice. I give my daughter BURIED TREASURE brand when I think she needs it, but I prefer to just give her a yummy smoothie each day that has the natural form of vitamins in it.

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I started my mom off by just having her add some ground flax (organic golden) to ALL of her baked goods, and making a daily muffin with it (using the flax instead of egg) You can add it to any of your favorite recipes. If using as an egg substitute, just put a tablespoon of ground flax in a small bowl or mug, add about 1/4 cup of WARM water, stir with a fork, then cover and let it "gel" for about 5 minutes. It will be the EXACT same consistency as an egg, and can be used the same way. Add this to any favorite muffin recipe (I make gluten free muffins, so I doubt my "recipe" would interest many) You can throw in sunflower seeds, nuts, etc. Homemade apple or pear butter made in the Vitamix is a wonderful spread for the muffins, and when made with natural ingredients is yet another good source of yummy nutrition. I think

so many of us are afraid of "healthy" things-and people tend to scoff that it MUST taste bad if it is "healthy". Just don't use the TERM "healthy". Tell hubby you made him a batch of YUMMY muffins (or cupcakes, etc) and give him a bowl of nice pumpkin butter to slather on it-he won't KNOW (or CARE) that it is healthy!

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ty to both of those questions!On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Berry <berrywell@...> wrote:

 

I started my mom off by just having her add some ground flax (organic golden) to ALL of her baked goods, and making a daily muffin with it (using the flax instead of egg)  You can add it to any of your favorite recipes.  If using as an egg substitute, just put a tablespoon of ground flax in a small bowl or mug, add about 1/4 cup of WARM water, stir with a fork, then cover and let it " gel " for about 5 minutes.  It will be the EXACT same consistency as an egg, and can be used the same way.  Add this to any favorite muffin recipe (I make gluten free muffins, so I doubt my " recipe " would interest many)  You can throw in sunflower seeds, nuts, etc.  Homemade apple or pear butter made in the Vitamix is a wonderful spread for the muffins, and when made with natural ingredients is yet another good source of yummy nutrition.  I think

so many of us are afraid of " healthy " things-and people tend to scoff that it MUST taste bad if it is " healthy " .  Just don't use the TERM " healthy " .   Tell hubby you made him a batch of YUMMY muffins (or cupcakes, etc) and give him a bowl of nice pumpkin butter to slather on it-he won't KNOW (or CARE) that it is healthy!

 

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Tony, why do you take Fish Oil versus Cod Liver Oil? I take CLO myself, but am

always open to new ideas!

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Pam, I also use flax seed (in addition to CLO). Organic flax seed is very

inexpensive and I throw a few TBSPs in my smoothie every morning. You can

experiment with it that way very easily. If your smoothie is cold it won't

thicken up too much. I'm sure mentioned this, but buy the whole seed and

grind it yourself; pre-ground is probably already rancid when you buy it. I just

throw the whole seeds in my smoothie and they get ground up with everything

else. , why do you buy golden versus brown flax seeds?

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