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Instead of buying bottled water, maybe consider a filtered pitcher? I know a lot of people that buy bottled water by the cases. The problem is, as you stated, much of the bottled water avail is murky about where it came from. If you feel bottled water is the only way to go, check out the Environmental Working Group's recent report on bottled water. Try and choose the best brand on the list. As for keeping for a couple of weeks- I think you are fine.Deb "You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself ANY DIRECTION YOU CHOOSE". Dr. SeussFrom: gudrun schindler <gudrun.schindler@...> Sent: Mon, January 31, 2011 11:35:14 AMSubject: OT bottled water

Since this is such a knowledgable bunch of people I'm hoping for some guidance with bottled water.

We live on a farm and have our own well. I had the water tested recently and it tested okay for coliform and nitrites. So my husband insists we don't need a filter. I'm thinking that there could be other bad stuff in there besides bacteria and nitrites.

I've been having a minor problem with my health and for various reasons am thinking that our water is to blame. Since we have a ways to go to the next store, I was wondering how long bottled water keeps. (I keep reading that it's really just tap water someone put in a bottle, in which case it wouldn't keep very well. I mean, I wouldn't draw a bunch of water from my faucet and drink it the next day.)

Could a person buy, say, a week's worth of water ahead of time?I'm thinking if I used bottled water for a couple of weeks, I would know once and for all if our water is to blame.

Thanks for any help and advice,

Gudrun

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I filter rainwater with my berkey.

On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:41:11 -0500, Deb Heimler <debmiester48@...>

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> Instead of buying bottled water, maybe consider a filtered pitcher? I

> know a lot

> of people that buy bottled water by the cases. The problem is, as you

> stated,

> much of the bottled water avail is murky about where it came from. If

> you feel

> bottled water is the only way to go, check out the Environmental Working

> Group's

> recent report on bottled water. Try and choose the best brand on the

> list. As

> for keeping for a couple of weeks- I think you are fine.

>

> Deb

>

> " You have brains in your head. You have feet

> in your

> shoes.

>

> You can steer yourself ANY DIRECTION YOU

> CHOOSE " .

> Dr. Seuss

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: gudrun schindler <gudrun.schindler@...>

>

> Sent: Mon, January 31, 2011 11:35:14 AM

> Subject: OT bottled water

>

> Since this is such a knowledgable bunch of people I'm hoping for some

> guidance

> with bottled water.

>

> We live on a farm and have our own well. I had the water tested recently

> and it

> tested okay for coliform and nitrites. So my husband insists we don't

> need a

> filter. I'm thinking that there could be other bad stuff in there besides

> bacteria and nitrites.

> I've been having a minor problem with my health and for various reasons

> am

> thinking that our water is to blame. Since we have a ways to go to the

> next

> store, I was wondering how long bottled water keeps. (I keep reading

> that it's

> really just tap water someone put in a bottle, in which case it wouldn't

> keep

> very well. I mean, I wouldn't draw a bunch of water from my faucet and

> drink it

> the next day.)

> Could a person buy, say, a week's worth of water ahead of time?

> I'm thinking if I used bottled water for a couple of weeks, I would know

> once

> and for all if our water is to blame.

>

> Thanks for any help and advice,

> Gudrun

>

>

--

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Renewable energy and self sufficiency

http://www.green-trust.org

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Thanks, Deb. I'll go ahead and buy a bunch of water then next time I get to town.(I don't really want to invest in any kind of filter until I know that the water is the problem. And I'm thinking no matter where the bottled water comes from, it wouldn't hurt me too much to drink it for a couple of weeks. Just as long as it's not coming out of my well.  :-)

GudrunOn Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Deb Heimler <debmiester48@...> wrote:

Instead of buying bottled water, maybe consider a filtered pitcher? I know a lot of people that buy bottled water by the cases. The problem is, as you stated, much of the bottled water avail is murky about where it came from. If you feel bottled water is the only way to go, check out the Environmental Working Group's recent report on bottled water. Try and choose the best brand on the list. As for keeping for a couple of weeks- I think you are fine.

-- " Do not meddle with the forces of nature, for you are small, insignificant and biodegradable. " --unknown

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I know, and a Berkey is what I want, but my husband balks at that. So if I can prove that our water is harming me, I'll be able to go ahead and get a Berkey.

GudrunOn Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Steve Spence <greentrust@...> wrote:

I filter rainwater with my berkey.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KExgPPfF2o-- " Do not meddle with the forces of nature, for you are small, insignificant and biodegradable. " --unknown

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Bottled water can indeed be as bad or worse than well water. Agreed, there could be more things in your well water than what it was tested for, but there is no guarantee that bottled water is better. A LOT of bottled water is "purified" or "enhanced", which really just means it contains a lot of chemicals that are also in tap water. Steam distilled or spring water is usually a better choice. Keep in mind that ANY water stored in plastic bottles is going to have leached things from the plastics, so it is a matter of choosing the lesser of the evils. Water filters are often not great either, especially if you have any corn allergies or sensitivities, since many of the filters are made from corn fibers. If I were in your shoes, I would try filtering my own well water before purchasing bottled water that is not likely to be any

better for you. You can also boil your water for 10 minutes or so, then filter it. That would kill off any pathogens or parasites that it wasn't tested for. A big issue that people often overlook with water is that it will pick up residues and solids from whatever pipes it comes through. In other words, you can have the best water in the world in your well,, but if it comes into your house via lead pipes, it will pick up some lead along the way (and/or parasites in the pipes) Boiling is usually a good, if not ideal option.From: Deb Heimler <debmiester48@...>Subject: Re: OT bottled water Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 11:41

AM

Instead of buying bottled water, maybe consider a filtered pitcher? I know a lot of people that buy bottled water by the cases. The problem is, as you stated, much of the bottled water avail is murky about where it came from. If you feel bottled water is the only way to go, check out the Environmental Working Group's recent report on bottled water. Try and choose the best brand on the list. As for keeping for a couple of weeks- I think you are fine.Deb "You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes.

You can steer yourself ANY DIRECTION YOU CHOOSE".

Dr. SeussFrom: gudrun schindler <gudrun.schindler@...> Sent: Mon, January 31, 2011 11:35:14 AMSubject: OT bottled water

Since this is such a knowledgable bunch of people I'm hoping for some guidance with bottled water.

We live on a farm and have our own well. I had the water tested recently and it tested okay for coliform and nitrites. So my husband insists we don't need a filter. I'm thinking that there could be other bad stuff in there besides bacteria and nitrites.

I've been having a minor problem with my health and for various reasons am thinking that our water is to blame. Since we have a ways to go to the next store, I was wondering how long bottled water keeps. (I keep reading that it's really just tap water someone put in a bottle, in which case it wouldn't keep very well. I mean, I wouldn't draw a bunch of water from my faucet and drink it the next day.)

Could a person buy, say, a week's worth of water ahead of time?I'm thinking if I used bottled water for a couple of weeks, I would know once and for all if our water is to blame.

Thanks for any help and advice,

Gudrun

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Before I got my own under the counter reverse osmosis water system, I filled 4 5-gallon water jugs of R/O water at Publix (my local grocery store that has a water filtering machine). You could see if you can find some R/O water to do your experiment or buy a distiller and drink distilled (add liquid minerals to your diet if you drink distilled water).

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<:)))><

On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:35 AM, gudrun schindler wrote:

Since this is such a knowledgable bunch of people I'm hoping for some guidance with bottled water.

We live on a farm and have our own well. I had the water tested recently and it tested okay for coliform and nitrites. So my husband insists we don't need a filter. I'm thinking that there could be other bad stuff in there besides bacteria and nitrites.

I've been having a minor problem with my health and for various reasons am thinking that our water is to blame. Since we have a ways to go to the next store, I was wondering how long bottled water keeps. (I keep reading that it's really just tap water someone put in a bottle, in which case it wouldn't keep very well. I mean, I wouldn't draw a bunch of water from my faucet and drink it the next day.)

Could a person buy, say, a week's worth of water ahead of time?I'm thinking if I used bottled water for a couple of weeks, I would know once and for all if our water is to blame.

Thanks for any help and advice,

Gudrun

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As you can see in the video, I built my own berkey, for about $120

On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:49:57 -0500, gudrun schindler

<gudrun.schindler@...> wrote:

> I know, and a Berkey is what I want, but my husband balks at that. So if

> I

> can prove that our water is harming me, I'll be able to go ahead and get

> a

> Berkey.

>

> Gudrun

>

> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Steve Spence <greentrust@...>

> wrote:

>

>> I filter rainwater with my berkey.

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

--

Steve Spence

Renewable energy and self sufficiency

http://www.green-trust.org

http://arduinotronics.blogspot.com

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I've watched your video and I've read lots about the Berkey and like the idea. But first my husband needs convincing that we need one. Even if it's only $ 120.

We wouldn't have enough rain water to filter, especially in the winter (Nebraska), but I would assume it works just as well for well water?

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Steve Spence <greentrust@...> wrote:

As you can see in the video, I built my own berkey, for about $120-- " Do not meddle with the forces of nature, for you are small, insignificant and biodegradable. " --unknown

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This video is great! Thank you. I think I've read that the only thing that

really can't be filtered out of most (or any) filter is floruide. Only reverse

osmosis will do this - right?

Deb

> From: Steve Spence <greentrust@...>

> Subject: Re: OT bottled water

>

> Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 12:35 PM

> As you can see in the video, I built

> my own berkey, for about $120

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Berkey sells an additional filter that removes flouride. It hangs down below the upper filter.

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<:)))><

On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Mom2_five wrote:

This video is great! Thank you. I think I've read that the only thing that really can't be filtered out of most (or any) filter is floruide. Only reverse osmosis will do this - right?

Deb

> From: Steve Spence <greentrust@...>

> Subject: Re: OT bottled water

>

> Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 12:35 PM

> As you can see in the video, I built

> my own berkey, for about $120

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Ditto ,

How bleessed we are in North America!

Lest not forget those in the third world who are not as fortunate as we are.

On humanitarian reasons, let's donate the money we spend on "bottled" water to those who are less fortunate than we are.

Meena

From: Deb Heimler <debmiester48@...>Subject: Re: OT bottled water Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 11:41 AM

Instead of buying bottled water, maybe consider a filtered pitcher? I know a lot of people that buy bottled water by the cases. The problem is, as you stated, much of the bottled water avail is murky about where it came from. If you feel bottled water is the only way to go, check out the Environmental Working Group's recent report on bottled water. Try and choose the best brand on the list. As for keeping for a couple of weeks- I think you are fine.Deb

"You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself ANY DIRECTION YOU CHOOSE". Dr. Seuss

From: gudrun schindler <gudrun.schindler@...> Sent: Mon, January 31, 2011 11:35:14 AMSubject: OT bottled water

Since this is such a knowledgable bunch of people I'm hoping for some guidance with bottled water.

We live on a farm and have our own well. I had the water tested recently and it tested okay for coliform and nitrites. So my husband insists we don't need a filter. I'm thinking that there could be other bad stuff in there besides bacteria and nitrites.

I've been having a minor problem with my health and for various reasons am thinking that our water is to blame. Since we have a ways to go to the next store, I was wondering how long bottled water keeps. (I keep reading that it's really just tap water someone put in a bottle, in which case it wouldn't keep very well. I mean, I wouldn't draw a bunch of water from my faucet and drink it the next day.)

Could a person buy, say, a week's worth of water ahead of time?

I'm thinking if I used bottled water for a couple of weeks, I would know once and for all if our water is to blame.

Thanks for any help and advice,

Gudrun

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Your husband sounds exactly like my husband! I am so thankful he has become convinced we need a Vitamix. But first he said "We've lived this long without one - why do we need it now. What's wrong with the blender we have?" lol!

Deb

From: gudrun schindler <gudrun.schindler@...>Subject: Re: OT bottled water Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 12:40 PM

I've watched your video and I've read lots about the Berkey and like the idea. But first my husband needs convincing that we need one. Even if it's only $ 120.

We wouldn't have enough rain water to filter, especially in the winter (Nebraska), but I would assume it works just as well for well water?

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rain water, river water, well water, etc.

It's a ceramic/silver filter with a carbon layer.

On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 12:40:10 -0500, gudrun schindler

<gudrun.schindler@...> wrote:

> I've watched your video and I've read lots about the Berkey and like the

> idea. But first my husband needs convincing that we need one. Even if

> it's

> only $ 120.

> We wouldn't have enough rain water to filter, especially in the winter

> (Nebraska), but I would assume it works just as well for well water?

>

> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Steve Spence <greentrust@...>

> wrote:

>

>> As you can see in the video, I built my own berkey, for about $120

>

>

>

>

--

Steve Spence

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http://www.green-trust.org

http://arduinotronics.blogspot.com

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no, there is a fluoride attachment for this filter.

On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 12:41:28 -0500, Mom2_five <mom2_five@...> wrote:

> This video is great! Thank you. I think I've read that the only thing

> that really can't be filtered out of most (or any) filter is floruide.

> Only reverse osmosis will do this - right?

>

>

> Deb

>

>

>

>> From: Steve Spence <greentrust@...>

>> Subject: Re: OT bottled water

>>

>> Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 12:35 PM

>> As you can see in the video, I built

>> my own berkey, for about $120

>

>

>

--

Steve Spence

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http://www.green-trust.org

http://arduinotronics.blogspot.com

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!!!!!!!! wow -- THAT is good news!! We drink bottled water, and my husband was able to do testing at work on the water we were buying. It was good water, so we've stuck with it. But I'd much rather be filtering our own. I'd also like to put filters on our showers.

From: Lea Ann Savage <lsavage@...>Subject: Re: OT bottled water Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 12:43 PM

Berkey sells an additional filter that removes flouride. It hangs down below the upper filter.

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Or something like Adya Clarity which changes the floride to a different form which your body can handle.> From: Steve Spence <greentrust@...>> Subject: Re: OT bottled water> > Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 12:35

PM> As you can see in the video, I built> my own berkey, for about $120

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I just run the tap water through the berkey.

Tony

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I've watched your video and I've read lots about the Berkey and like the idea. But first my husband needs convincing that we need one. Even if it's only $ 120.

We wouldn't have enough rain water to filter, especially in the winter (Nebraska), but I would assume it works just as well for well water?

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Steve Spence <greentrust@...> wrote:

As you can see in the video, I built my own berkey, for about $120-- "Do not meddle with the forces of nature, for you are small, insignificant and biodegradable." --unknown

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Here is a link to some recent research on bottled

water. I too am on a well, and have self

tested a lot, however I just recently started filtering my water with a PUR filter

that fits on the faucet, and we added on to the back of our refrigerator-they are

cheap but effective. Here is the link-I

don't drink bottled water-because you have no idea where the bottled water is

stored (could have been in the heat before it was in the store?). I'm very sensitive to taste and can taste

chemicals in bottled water.

http://blog.grasslandbeef.com/the-tidal-wave-of-bottled-water/Default.aspx?utm_campaign=BottledWater & utm_source=newsletter

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If you're really concerned about your water quality, there are home

water distillers available for around $100.

A brand name " Love " seems to satisfy the folk on the various health

lists.

http://www.webeatprices.com/

Chuck

At an Optometrist's Office:

" If you don't see what you're looking for, you've come to the

right place. "

On 1/31/2011 11:48:36 AM, gudrun schindler

(gudrun.schindler@...) wrote:

> Thanks, Deb.

> I'll go ahead and buy a bunch of water then next time I get to town.(I don't

> really want to invest in any kind of filter until I know that the water is

> the problem. And

> I'm thinking no matter where the bottled water comes from, it wouldn't

> hurt me too much to drink it for a couple of weeks. Just as long as

> it's not coming out of my well.  :-)

>

>

> Gudrun

>

> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Deb Heimler <debmiester48@... [link:

mailto:debmiester48@...]> wrote:

> Instead of buying bottled water, maybe consider a filtered pitcher? I know a

lot of people that buy bottled water by the cases. The problem is, as you

stated, much of the bottled water avail is murky about where it came from. If

you feel bottled water is the only way to go, check out the Environmental

Working Group's

> recent report on bottled water. Try and choose the best brand on the list.

> As for keeping for a couple of weeks- I think you are fine.

>

>

>

> --

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Well, I'm only talking of two weeks. I wouldn't dream of drinking bottled water habitually. In fact, when my granddaughter was a baby, her mom bought bottled water to make formula, and the baby would scream when she tried to feed it. When she tasted it, she found that it burned her mouth. So, I do agree with the blog.

I like Lea Ann's idea of buying water filtered in the store for those two weeks. I think one of the two grocery stores has that option. 

If worse comes to worst I could also drive to a friend's house and get bottles of her well water. All that matters to me is that it not be MY water.

GudrunOn Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 5:49 PM, ksantic <plusjuiceplus@...> wrote:

Here is a link to some recent research on bottled

water.  I too am on a well, and have self

tested a lot, however I just recently started filtering my water with a PUR filter

that fits on the faucet, and we added on to the back of our refrigerator-they are

cheap but effective.  Here is the link-I

don't drink bottled water-because you have no idea where the bottled water is

stored (could have been in the heat before it was in the store?).  I'm very sensitive to taste and can taste

chemicals in bottled water.

http://blog.grasslandbeef.com/the-tidal-wave-of-bottled-water/Default.aspx?utm_campaign=BottledWater & utm_source=newsletter

-- " Do not meddle with the forces of nature, for you are small, insignificant and biodegradable. " --unknown

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This is very interesting - thanks. Gonna do more research on it.

Deb

From: Carol Sprafka <sprafkacj@...>Subject: Re: OT bottled water Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 1:19 PM

Or something like Adya Clarity which changes the floride to a different form which your body can handle.

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