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Bridget(12) is right in there with Chris. However, she does like to hide things

she doesn't want to be bothered with.

mom to Bridget 12 in SC

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I can't believe that (10) does not do these things! I DID write a few

years ago - well, 5 now, that he would not come in from recess but he does

not like ketchup and he does not pack. My other 2 children love ketchup, but

not him. I wish he would, so that he would be getting those antioxidants

(lycopene). He is stubborn - no doubt about that one! in Dallas

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I can happiuly say, Nic's shoes and socks are off before his coat but he

USUALLY keeps the rest of his clothes on.

Now, when he goes to the bathroom, for some reason he thinks he has to strip

down to nothing....hmmmm

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>> I am thinking with this thread the scientist may want to examine

> chromosome

>> #21 even closer ... besides the extra gene for drama, hugging, and

> mooning,

>> there may be a " stay at recess " gene on number 21! ;-)

>> Cheryl in VA

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> You forgot the ketchup obsession. Never heard of the mooning before,

> please

> tell me that is a more " happen at home " thing and not a public thing.

> strips off his pants, shoes and socks the moment he gets in the

> door. Thank goodness he keeps his underwear on.

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> I always get a chuckle when the recess game is posted here on the list - I

> can just see Shelby having fun with that one.

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OK, Nic loves to squeeze the ketchup all over his plate but then won't eat

anything that it's touching.....????

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> Oh yeah. We have passed out of the ketchup..well, we still love the

> ketchup...but Ranch is not a dip of choice for ALL of my kids.

> And Mav's favorite chips are Cool Ranch Doritos.

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LOL my 23 year old (not DS) puts A1 on EVERYTHING...(that's a steak

sauce).

Di

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> I get a note in the communication binder almost every day that says:

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> Q: Are you aware that Hannah has packed a __________________ in her

> backpack?

> A: Washcloth, play dough, egg shakers in a sock, deck of cards, gloves

> and

> a scarf (in September...) nail polish, can of soup... I am sure it's

> going to

> be quite extensive by the end of the year.

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So does Vickie... and it annoys her teacher to no end

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>>> I am thinking with this thread the scientist may want to examine

>> chromosome

>>> #21 even closer ... besides the extra gene for drama, hugging, and

>> mooning,

>>> there may be a " stay at recess " gene on number 21! ;-)

>>> Cheryl in VA

>>

>> You forgot the ketchup obsession. Never heard of the mooning before,

>> please

>> tell me that is a more " happen at home " thing and not a public thing.

>> strips off his pants, shoes and socks the moment he gets in the

>> door. Thank goodness he keeps his underwear on.

>>

>> I always get a chuckle when the recess game is posted here on the list -

>> I

>> can just see Shelby having fun with that one.

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>> Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

>> messages to go to the sender of the message.

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still gets naked to bm. In pre-school, kindy and possibly first he got

naked to pee too. Just had to keep an eye on the bathroom door lest he emerge

in all his glory. It was just something I gave them a heads up on so that they

would be prepared.

Later years...he wouldn't go to bathroom at all. Then and now we have major

issues with constipation. Seems like it's always something.

Barb

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>>> I am thinking with this thread the scientist may want to examine

>> chromosome

>>> #21 even closer ... besides the extra gene for drama, hugging, and

>> mooning,

>>> there may be a " stay at recess " gene on number 21! ;-)

>>> Cheryl in VA

>>

>> You forgot the ketchup obsession. Never heard of the mooning before,

>> please

>> tell me that is a more " happen at home " thing and not a public thing.

>> strips off his pants, shoes and socks the moment he gets in the

>> door. Thank goodness he keeps his underwear on.

>>

>> I always get a chuckle when the recess game is posted here on the list -

>> I

>> can just see Shelby having fun with that one.

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>> Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

>> messages to go to the sender of the message.

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No problem with that at school since he keeps his shoes on there making it

impossible to get his pants off.

Di

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>>> I am thinking with this thread the scientist may want to examine

>> chromosome

>>> #21 even closer ... besides the extra gene for drama, hugging, and

>> mooning,

>>> there may be a " stay at recess " gene on number 21! ;-)

>>> Cheryl in VA

>>

>> You forgot the ketchup obsession. Never heard of the mooning before,

>> please

>> tell me that is a more " happen at home " thing and not a public thing.

>> strips off his pants, shoes and socks the moment he gets in the

>> door. Thank goodness he keeps his underwear on.

>>

>> I always get a chuckle when the recess game is posted here on the list -

>> I

>> can just see Shelby having fun with that one.

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>> Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

>> messages to go to the sender of the message.

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Whatever your next course of action maybe you need to write a letter to the

school district specifying your son diagnosis and that you expect protection

under the law and that this letter must be placed in his permanent school

record. Anyone have a sample letter?

mark <ml10splayer@...> wrote:

>Does anyone have suggestions on how to handle " behaviors " at school - second

grade - and guidelines for how often the school should be notifying me of these

behaviors. They have in place a " token " system which I thought was positive

(earning but not losing) and have been finding out they use taking of these

tokens as theats to make my son do what they want, regardless of changes in

schedule, substitutes (sometimes as many as four in one day), noise level (sound

sensitivities), etc. Friday I found out that by 11:30am my son had lost all of

his " tokens " for the day for 1)throwing pea gravel up into the air (not at

anyone) 2)yelling loudly at children on the playground who were kicking and

hitting him trying to knock him off of the monkey bars 3)hitting a boy who had

his hands on my son trying to pry him off the monkey bars. I was told that

since my son's para did not SEE any of this that my son was not believed until

they could " investigate " . WHAT?! My daughter who is high school age and tutors

at my son's school, in his " autism " room saw much of this and came home for

lunch in tears. I probably did not do the best course of action next, I went to

school and picked my son up. When asked the reason why I told them exactly what

I had been told and questioned why I had not been called. The special education

teacher said they still needed to investigate the situation but before that it

was not ok for my son to yell or to hit anyone even if they did try to cause him

to fall and be hurt. I have been thinking all weekend about what I can do to

make this stop. This is not the first time my son has been the target of

bullying on the playground or in the bathroom or in the classroom. The behavior

plan in place is very general and in my opinion not worth the paper it is

written on. I have been warned by other parents within our district that if I

push for a new plan I will most likely lose ground rather than come to any

solution that is workable. I was thinking something along the lines of my son

playing in small supervised groups with NT children " invited " by para and

special education teacher during recess. Something the special education

teacher has agreed to. And then I am wondering if it is too much to ask that

they call me when he had " behavior " incidents happen more than once in a thirty

minute period. I have spent three years asking them to give me the antecedent

as well as the behavior and consequence to no avail. It is amazing to me that

no one ever sees the antecedent. I apologize for the negative tone of this

post. My son is a sweet and funny bundle of sunshine and these incidents at

school are making him miserable. He has to be on medication just to get through

days at school. Since the beginning of this school year he has had tummy issues

from school worry and lately bladder accidents at night as well as talking in

his sleep all from school. He has a diagnosis of autism (now high functioning),

sensory processing disorder, and tourette's syndrome. Yes, we have already been

through having to have a doctor write something to the school to explain to them

that the tics (physical and vocal) are not on purpose and can not ever be

considered a " behavior " . Some of these silly behavior rules are just making me

bananas and I question whether or not NT children have such odd rules to follow

(i.e. when you work hard and earn a reward you are not allowed to talk about it

or give a " Whoo Hoo! " after school). Any suggestions are really appreciated.

>

>Beth

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Hello Beth,

I'm sorry that you and your son are having such a hard time with his school right now. I have been there! If you don't mind my asking, what is the general tone of your son's IEP meetings? Have you considered or already tried having a trained advocate attend your meetings with you? It sounds like your son's IEP may need to be updated to include a realistic game plan of how school personnel will react to and handle any behavior issues. Keeping in mind that all behavior - "good" or "bad" - is communication, it seems that school personnel should be more interested in discovering what your son's triggers are and seeking to eliminate/minimize them, rather than enforcing what sounds like unreasonable and unrealistic consequences.

Hang in there. I know that its exhausting and incredibly frustrating....

Miriam

need help ASAP please

Does anyone have suggestions on how to handle "behaviors" at school - second grade - and guidelines for how often the school should be notifying me of these behaviors. They have in place a "token" system which I thought was positive (earning but not losing) and have been finding out they use taking of these tokens as theats to make my son do what they want, regardless of changes in schedule, substitutes (sometimes as many as four in one day), noise level (sound sensitivities), etc. Friday I found out that by 11:30am my son had lost all of his "tokens" for the day for 1)throwing pea gravel up into the air (not at anyone) 2)yelling loudly at children on the playground who were kicking and hitting him trying to knock him off of the monkey bars 3)hitting a boy who had his hands on my son trying to pry him off the monkey bars. I was told that since my son's para did not SEE any of this that my son was not believed until they could "in vestigate". WHAT?! My daughter who is high school age and tutors at my son's school, in his "autism" room saw much of this and came home for lunch in tears. I probably did not do the best course of action next, I went to school and picked my son up. When asked the reason why I told them exactly what I had been told and questioned why I had not been called. The special education teacher said they still needed to investigate the situation but before that it was not ok for my son to yell or to hit anyone even if they did try to cause him to fall and be hurt. I have been thinking all weekend about what I can do to make this stop. This is not the first time my son has been the target of bullying on the playground or in the bathroom or in the classroom. The behavior plan in place is very general and in my opinion not worth the paper it is written on. I have been warned by other parents within our district that if I push for a new plan I will most likely los e ground rather than come to any solution that is workable. I was thinking something along the lines of my son playing in small supervised groups with NT children "invited" by para and special education teacher during recess. Something the special education teacher has agreed to. And then I am wondering if it is too much to ask that they call me when he had "behavior" incidents happen more than once in a thirty minute period. I have spent three years asking them to give me the antecedent as well as the behavior and consequence to no avail. It is amazing to me that no one ever sees the antecedent. I apologize for the negative tone of this post. My son is a sweet and funny bundle of sunshine and these incidents at school are making him miserable. He has to be on medication just to get through days at school. Since the beginning of this school year he has had tummy issues from school worry and lately bladder accidents at night as well as talking in his sleep all from school. He has a diagnosis of autism (now high functioning), sensory processing disorder, and tourette's syndrome. Yes, we have already been through having to have a doctor write something to the school to explain to them that the tics (physical and vocal) are not on purpose and can not ever be considered a "behavior". Some of these silly behavior rules are just making me bananas and I question whether or not NT children have such odd rules to follow (i.e. when you work hard and earn a reward you are not allowed to talk about it or give a "Whoo Hoo!" after school). Any suggestions are really appreciated.

Beth

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Read slaws's book " From Emotions to Advocacy " . Start with the letter

writing chapter as this is how you document problems with the school district.

Meanwhile continue to express your concerns but follow-up with writing. Call

IEP meetings. Express your concerns and tell him that his behaviors will

escaluate if staff do not receive appropriate training to implement behavior

plans. Follow up with writing.

Look for a good advocate to help you. But if the advocate is not following the

advice in slaw (he's an expert), then keep looking.

When you think you have enough documentation and it's obvious that nothing has

changed, request mediation. Make sure you go to mediation well prepared.

It's very hard but when you come out of the other side with a good program, it's

worth it.

Jill

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> Does anyone have suggestions on how to handle " behaviors " at school - second

grade - and guidelines for how often the school should be notifying me of these

behaviors. They have in place a " token " system which I thought was positive

(earning but not losing) and have been finding out they use taking of these

tokens as theats to make my son do what they want, regardless of changes in

schedule, substitutes (sometimes as many as four in one day), noise level (sound

sensitivities), etc. Friday I found out that by 11:30am my son had lost all of

his " tokens " for the day for 1)throwing pea gravel up into the air (not at

anyone) 2)yelling loudly at children on the playground who were kicking and

hitting him trying to knock him off of the monkey bars 3)hitting a boy who had

his hands on my son trying to pry him off the monkey bars. I was told that

since my son's para did not SEE any of this that my son was not believed until

they could " investigate " . WHAT?! My daughter who is high school age and tutors

at my son's school, in his " autism " room saw much of this and came home for

lunch in tears. I probably did not do the best course of action next, I went to

school and picked my son up. When asked the reason why I told them exactly what

I had been told and questioned why I had not been called. The special education

teacher said they still needed to investigate the situation but before that it

was not ok for my son to yell or to hit anyone even if they did try to cause him

to fall and be hurt. I have been thinking all weekend about what I can do to

make this stop. This is not the first time my son has been the target of

bullying on the playground or in the bathroom or in the classroom. The behavior

plan in place is very general and in my opinion not worth the paper it is

written on. I have been warned by other parents within our district that if I

push for a new plan I will most likely lose ground rather than come to any

solution that is workable. I was thinking something along the lines of my son

playing in small supervised groups with NT children " invited " by para and

special education teacher during recess. Something the special education

teacher has agreed to. And then I am wondering if it is too much to ask that

they call me when he had " behavior " incidents happen more than once in a thirty

minute period. I have spent three years asking them to give me the antecedent

as well as the behavior and consequence to no avail. It is amazing to me that

no one ever sees the antecedent. I apologize for the negative tone of this

post. My son is a sweet and funny bundle of sunshine and these incidents at

school are making him miserable. He has to be on medication just to get through

days at school. Since the beginning of this school year he has had tummy issues

from school worry and lately bladder accidents at night as well as talking in

his sleep all from school. He has a diagnosis of autism (now high functioning),

sensory processing disorder, and tourette's syndrome. Yes, we have already been

through having to have a doctor write something to the school to explain to them

that the tics (physical and vocal) are not on purpose and can not ever be

considered a " behavior " . Some of these silly behavior rules are just making me

bananas and I question whether or not NT children have such odd rules to follow

(i.e. when you work hard and earn a reward you are not allowed to talk about it

or give a " Whoo Hoo! " after school). Any suggestions are really appreciated.

>

> Beth

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Read slaws's book " From Emotions to Advocacy " . Start with the letter

writing chapter as this is how you document problems with the school district.

Meanwhile continue to express your concerns but follow-up with writing. Call

IEP meetings. Express your concerns and tell him that his behaviors will

escaluate if staff do not receive appropriate training to implement behavior

plans. Follow up with writing.

Look for a good advocate to help you. But if the advocate is not following the

advice in slaw (he's an expert), then keep looking.

When you think you have enough documentation and it's obvious that nothing has

changed, request mediation. Make sure you go to mediation well prepared.

It's very hard but when you come out of the other side with a good program, it's

worth it.

Jill

>

> Does anyone have suggestions on how to handle " behaviors " at school - second

grade - and guidelines for how often the school should be notifying me of these

behaviors. They have in place a " token " system which I thought was positive

(earning but not losing) and have been finding out they use taking of these

tokens as theats to make my son do what they want, regardless of changes in

schedule, substitutes (sometimes as many as four in one day), noise level (sound

sensitivities), etc. Friday I found out that by 11:30am my son had lost all of

his " tokens " for the day for 1)throwing pea gravel up into the air (not at

anyone) 2)yelling loudly at children on the playground who were kicking and

hitting him trying to knock him off of the monkey bars 3)hitting a boy who had

his hands on my son trying to pry him off the monkey bars. I was told that

since my son's para did not SEE any of this that my son was not believed until

they could " investigate " . WHAT?! My daughter who is high school age and tutors

at my son's school, in his " autism " room saw much of this and came home for

lunch in tears. I probably did not do the best course of action next, I went to

school and picked my son up. When asked the reason why I told them exactly what

I had been told and questioned why I had not been called. The special education

teacher said they still needed to investigate the situation but before that it

was not ok for my son to yell or to hit anyone even if they did try to cause him

to fall and be hurt. I have been thinking all weekend about what I can do to

make this stop. This is not the first time my son has been the target of

bullying on the playground or in the bathroom or in the classroom. The behavior

plan in place is very general and in my opinion not worth the paper it is

written on. I have been warned by other parents within our district that if I

push for a new plan I will most likely lose ground rather than come to any

solution that is workable. I was thinking something along the lines of my son

playing in small supervised groups with NT children " invited " by para and

special education teacher during recess. Something the special education

teacher has agreed to. And then I am wondering if it is too much to ask that

they call me when he had " behavior " incidents happen more than once in a thirty

minute period. I have spent three years asking them to give me the antecedent

as well as the behavior and consequence to no avail. It is amazing to me that

no one ever sees the antecedent. I apologize for the negative tone of this

post. My son is a sweet and funny bundle of sunshine and these incidents at

school are making him miserable. He has to be on medication just to get through

days at school. Since the beginning of this school year he has had tummy issues

from school worry and lately bladder accidents at night as well as talking in

his sleep all from school. He has a diagnosis of autism (now high functioning),

sensory processing disorder, and tourette's syndrome. Yes, we have already been

through having to have a doctor write something to the school to explain to them

that the tics (physical and vocal) are not on purpose and can not ever be

considered a " behavior " . Some of these silly behavior rules are just making me

bananas and I question whether or not NT children have such odd rules to follow

(i.e. when you work hard and earn a reward you are not allowed to talk about it

or give a " Whoo Hoo! " after school). Any suggestions are really appreciated.

>

> Beth

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