Re: Juicing with the Vitamix

January 31, 2011

That's the perfect attitude! Get your feet wet and if it's comfy, start

thinking a little bigger.

Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 9:42 AM

Â Oh, geez--ANYTHING would be better than that unless you don't keep up

with it.

I hate to repeat what I've already posted but I've been juicing

seriously since 1988. Now that that's out of the way, until 2009, I

only used a Champion which, to my way of thinking (and to Norwalk's) is

second only to the Norwalk for all-around juicing. However, if you find

yourself using a Jack LaLanne but not a Champion, that's the way to go

because a juicer--like any appliance--is only good if you use it....

January 31, 2011

Thanks - will do. I belong to Freecycle, but went no mail a long time ago. GIVING stuff away was such a hassle! My inbox filled up, people kept sending requests even though I said it'd been claimed - then no shows on picking up. Crazy. I'm sitting there waiting for a no show while my family is waiting for me so we can go on an outing. So I gave up and take stuff to the Salvation Army. However, you're not really supposed to ask for stuff if you don't give stuff. But maybe I'll give it another try. Craig's list - great idea. I'll definitely keep my eyes peeled.

Deb

From: <kareningotham@...>Subject: Re: Juicing with the Vitamix Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 9:21 AM

I truly think a Champion and a press is a better poor man's Norwalk. The trituration is slower (and less likely to leave chunks because there's no way the produce can miss the cutter) and it's easier to get everything out of it; you can also just juice with it and then press the pulp. There's a reason why this the Gerson clinic's recommended alternative; I'm certain they're aware of the existence of our beloved Vitamix. And of course, if one doesn't have a Champion, using the Vitamix and a press is better than nothing. But a Champion/press is a better option.

January 31, 2011

Here's the same press for a little less and free shipping:

http://www.rawjuicers.com/peoples-juice-press-welles-juice-press-juicer.html

>

> See this:

>

http://www.rawfoodlife.com/Products/Juicers/Hydraulic_Juice_Press/hydraulic_juic\

e_press.html

>

> The press in the e-book is the same idea. Both use a bottle jack (at least

that's how it looks). Homemade -- MUCH cheaper, and will do the same thing.

>

> Deb

>

January 31, 2011

I think I'd go with making one if I felt I could. The whole point of

using a press-combo is to save money over the cost of the integrated

(and much smaller overall) Norwalk. Might as well save as much as

possible.

Re: Juicing with the Vitamix

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http://www.rawfoodlife.com/Products/Juicers/Hydraulic_Juice_Press/hydraulic_juic\

e_press.html

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& gt; The press in the e-book is the same idea. Both use a bottle jack

(at least that's how it looks). Homemade -- MUCH cheaper, and will do

the same thing.

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& gt; Deb

& gt;

January 31, 2011

,I'm not understanding why one would use a press along with a Champion. My Champion is 40 years old, had to replace a couple of parts, but continues to make excellent juice. If my pulp happens to come out a little wet, this hardly ever happens, I just run it back through. I don't think a press would give me any additional juice.Thanks for all your input. You provide a lot of great info to the group. Bro & BillieFrom: <kareningotham@...> Sent: Mon, January 31, 2011 8:21:30 AMSubject: Re: Juicing with the Vitamix

I truly think a Champion and a press is a better poor man's Norwalk.

The trituration is slower (and less likely to leave chunks because

there's no way the produce can miss the cutter) and it's easier to get

everything out of it; you can also just juice with it and then press

the pulp. There's a reason why this the Gerson clinic's recommended

alternative; I'm certain they're aware of the existence of our beloved

Vitamix. And of course, if one doesn't have a Champion, using the

Vitamix and a press is better than nothing. But a Champion/press is a

better option.

Re: Juicing with the Vitamix

This is AWESOME Mom2_five! (I know that's not your name :-)

I would seriously consider getting one from you. I am convinced that

if someone had a good juice press and a Vitamix that it would be a

"poor man's Norwalk". Could never be as good as a Norwalk (in

convenience), but might come close in performance.

I would puree in the Vitamix rather than suffer the hassle of cleaning

the Champion (I have one). Also, you can't do greens easily in the

champion, but the Vitamix would make Greens pulp in a snap! I'm going

to try to make carrot juice today in the Vitamix - if I can produce

carrot pulp that is not diluted with anything in the VM, then I would

be totally convinced that the combo of a Vitamix and a good juice press

would = a "poor man's Norwalk". If I got your press I'd do a YouTube

video on it!

Blessings,

Lea Ann Savage

Satellite Beach, FL

(321) 773-7088 (home)

(321-961-9219 (cell)

www.VitamixLady.com

www..com

& lt;)) & gt; & lt;

On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:11 AM, Mom2_five wrote:

Who here juices with their Vitamix? I was watching the video posted

earlier, and how she is pressing out the juice by hand through a bag.

My husband is in the process of making us a press, and I'm thinking it

could be used with the Vitamix. We were going to use it in tandom with

our Jack LaLanne juicer, to get more juice from the pulp (as

recommended in Gerson Therapy - but they recommend a Norwalk or

Champaion). Here's the link to the press my husband is making:

http://www.juicepress.org/

January 31, 2011

I would rather have the nicer looking press than the home made one if I could afford it - so this better price is a nice link to have!

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Deborah Drake, ND wrote:

Here's the same press for a little less and free shipping:

http://www.rawjuicers.com/peoples-juice-press-welles-juice-press-juicer.html

>

> See this:

>

> http://www.rawfoodlife.com/Products/Juicers/Hydraulic_Juice_Press/hydraulic_juice_press.html

>

> The press in the e-book is the same idea. Both use a bottle jack (at least that's how it looks). Homemade -- MUCH cheaper, and will do the same thing.

>

> Deb

>

January 31, 2011

Last time we had this discussion about presses, I was inspired to try pressing pulp through a nutmilk bag using a metal tortilla press that I got at a Mexican grocery store for 7 dollars (like this one http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl= & q=tortilla+press & rlz=1B3GGLL_enUS367US367 & um=1 & ie=UTF-8 & cid=7212563989435147313 & ei=odVGTYLiF8jngQf9rM3ZAQ & sa=X & oi=product_catalog_result & ct=result & resnum=5 & ved=0CDoQ8wIwBA#)The results were pretty impressive, considering! It took a good bit of heft to press it, but I was able to extract much more juice from the pulp than I expected to. I turned the bag a couple of times and pressed again, each time getting a little more. I set the press on a tray to catch the juice. Not an ideal set up, but took it from "poor man's"

juicer to total "ghetto juicer", with a decent result! From: Deborah Drake, ND <dkdrake.nd@...>Subject: Re: Juicing with the Vitamix Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 10:18 AM

Here's the same press for a little less and free shipping:

http://www.rawjuicers.com/peoples-juice-press-welles-juice-press-juicer.html

>

> See this:

>

> http://www.rawfoodlife.com/Products/Juicers/Hydraulic_Juice_Press/hydraulic_juice_press.html

>

> The press in the e-book is the same idea. Both use a bottle jack (at least that's how it looks). Homemade -- MUCH cheaper, and will do the same thing.

>

> Deb

>

January 31, 2011

I recommend filtering replies into folders for freecycle posts, to make it easier to wade through them or ignore posts after you say the item is listed. I also run a local "cheapcycle" group, where things are traded, and several online yardsale groups. You might look to see if there are any of those in your area too. Half the fun of my day is seeing what I can obtain, give, trade, barter, or recycle. Good fun, good stuff to be found!

From: <kareningotham@...>Subject: Re: Juicing with the Vitamix Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 9:21 AM

I truly think a Champion and a press is a better poor man's Norwalk. The trituration is slower (and less likely to leave chunks because there's no way the produce can miss the cutter) and it's easier to get everything out of it; you can also just juice with it and then press the pulp. There's a reason why this the Gerson clinic's recommended alternative; I'm certain they're aware of the existence of our beloved Vitamix. And of course, if one doesn't have a Champion, using the Vitamix and a press is better than nothing. But a Champion/press is a better option.

January 31, 2011

LOL! Not ideal, but very inventive!

From: Berry <berrywell@...>Subject: Re: Re: Juicing with the Vitamix Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 10:33 AM

Not an ideal set up, but took it from "poor man's" juicer to total "ghetto juicer", with a decent result!

January 31, 2011

I studied this a lot just a few months ago. My sister found out she has cancer

just this past September. Fortunately they don't even want to do chemo or

radiation but they are saying she will keep having to have surgery to remove

tumors for the rest of her life to try to keep ahead of it. It's carcinoid

cancer that started in her small intestines and spread to the lymph system and

then the liver.

Anyway the family all started researching the best things to do. I already knew

about Gerson and finally won them over to the idea. My mom and I got a Norwalk

and we had juicing parties with about 6 of us at a time cleaning, peeling,

grinding, pressing, filling jars, etc. We have a nice little system down. We can

do enough for all of us with my sister and mom getting at least 4 glasses of

carrot/apple juice a day for 4-5 days. So they get about 20 jars each. I'm happy

with 1 a day.

I talked to Gerson and they said that she needs 13 glasses a day - 6

carrot/apple, 6 green drinks and one fresh OJ. We've never done the orange juice

for breakfast.

The Norwalk was at my house for a while but it was too big of a deal so we took

it to her so she could juice once a day instead of the big 3 hour ordeal. She

hasn't done it and it's been since early December. I'm really trying not to be

pushy about it but I don't understand why she isn't juicing.

She also wont change her diet by eating raw foods or cut out meat, dairy and

sugar. She isn't taking any of big cancer fighting herbs she can choose from.

It's very frustrating but we can't live other people's lives.

Gerson said for someone with fibromyalgia, 8 glasses of juice is recommended. I

think it was for a year but now I am not sure the length of time. They also told

my sister that she should have no more than 4 glasses per coffee enema. I may

call them and ask about that myself. 2-3 coffee enemas per day sounds like too

much. But she said they told her that if she wont do the enemas (which she wont)

then she should only do 4 glasses a day - which will not stop her cancer.

She's very paranoid about health stuff. She's scared of all the natural things

it seems. They took part of her liver so she's afraid to detox. It has grown

back now but she's scared to death to do anything so she keeps eating junk. She

and I are polar opposites.

She does have a VitaMix and I believe she is drinking a smoothie every day. That

does not give her the volume of nutrients that go into the empty stomach and are

absorbed in mass into the blood stream. The fiber in the smoothie slows the

absorption down and fills her up too quick to get the nutrients she needs.

>

> From: Nadine Cruz-Saubert <ncruzsaubert@...>

> Subject: Re: Juicing with the Vitamix

>

> Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 8:21 AM

>

> this is interesting! My husband and I watched the Gerson Miracle and The Ugly

truth and it totally sparked my interest. I would love to juice daily- maybe

not every hour as for a family of 5- we'd be living on the streets with our

vitamix and produce However- If I can start every day with a fresh juice- the

kids as well- I think that would be an excellent start and not too pricey- just

this morning I did- a carrot, and apple, a pinch of spinach, splash of 100%

pomegrate juice and a dollop of vanilla yogurt and the kids had it no problem.

My daughter said it was filling. So really a drink would count as a meal right?

Sorry now I'm getting OT- I will be following this topic

> Nadine Cruz-Saubert

>

January 31, 2011

Deb - I'm like you about ginger. I cannot seem to make a smoothie for myself anymore without throwing in a good chunk of ginger. I LOVE the kick that ginger gives!FrannyOn Jan 31, 2011, at 7:32 AM, Mom2_five wrote:

LOL, I was thinking the same thing after watching the Gerson Miracle. No way could I juice THAT much. However, I am thinking that the ever hour was for severe illness. I am still not sure what they recommended for maintenance.

I've been giving my children a glass of juice every morning using for each: 2 med. to large carrots and 1 apple. For myself, I've been doing the same, plus 1 lg. stalk of celery and a slice of ginger. I used to make the same, minus the celery and plus a beet.

I am wondering how it will be to freeze my veggies for use through the winter, in the vitamix.

Deb

From: Nadine Cruz-Saubert <ncruzsaubert@...>Subject: Re: Juicing with the Vitamix Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 8:21 AM

this is interesting! My husband and I watched the Gerson Miracle and The Ugly truth and it totally sparked my interest. I would love to juice daily- maybe not every hour as for a family of 5- we'd be living on the streets with our vitamix and produce However- If I can start every day with a fresh juice- the kids as well- I think that would be an excellent start and not too pricey- just this morning I did- a carrot, and apple, a pinch of spinach, splash of 100% pomegrate juice and a dollop of vanilla yogurt and the kids had it no problem. My daughter said it was filling. So really a drink would count as a meal right? Sorry now I'm getting OT- I will be following this topic

Nadine Cruz-Saubert

January 31, 2011

, you're a sweetie and I always ran my pulp through my Champion

twice as well (this was before I'd heard of nut milk bags). Believe it

or not, the amount of extra juice that can be gotten using a press is

significant. 5 lbs. of peeled carrots and an apple or two give me a

good half-gallon of juice--that's a lot! Not only that but, Carol, the

president of Norwalk, explained that what you want to watch for when

you press is the thin, watery juice that's extracted at the last--those

are the minerals. It seems they're the last holdouts in the juicing

process and you miss them unless you keep pressing. This was confirmed

when I noticed that the " solids " at the bottom of my juice jars

contained a lot of white.

Re: Juicing with the Vitamix

Â

This is AWESOME Mom2_five! (I know that's not your name :-)

I would seriously consider getting one from you. Â I am convinced that

if someone had a good juice press and a Vitamix that it would be a

" poor man's Norwalk " . Â Could never be as good as a Norwalk (in

convenience), but might come close in performance.

I would puree in the Vitamix rather than suffer the hassle of cleaning

the Champion (I have one). Â Also, you can't do greens easily in the

champion, but the Vitamix would make Greens pulp in a snap! Â I'm going

to try to make carrot juice today in the Vitamix - if I can produce

carrot pulp that is not diluted with anything in the VM, then I would

be totally convinced that the combo of a Vitamix and a good juice press

would = a " poor man's Norwalk " . Â If I got your press I'd do a YouTube

video on it!

Blessings,

Lea Ann Savage

Satellite Beach, FL

(321) 773-7088 (home)

(321-961-9219 (cell)

www.VitamixLady.com

www..com

& lt;)) & gt; & lt;

On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:11 AM, Mom2_five wrote:

Â

Who here juices with their Vitamix? I was watching the video posted

earlier, and how she is pressing out the juice by hand through a bag.

My husband is in the process of making us a press, and I'm thinking it

could be used with the Vitamix. We were going to use it in tandom with

our Jack LaLanne juicer, to get more juice from the pulp (as

recommended in Gerson Therapy - but they recommend a Norwalk or

Champaion). Here's the link to the press my husband is making:

http://www.juicepress.org/

January 31, 2011

And I just drank down my last swallow of the juice I just made ... and I had put double the ginger this time! Whew! That's supposed to be really good for the liver.

Deb (p.s. I think I'm the 53 year old grandmother that was mentioned in earlier posts)

From: Franny Lesniak <frannyfly@...>Subject: Re: Juicing with the Vitamix Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 10:42 AM

Deb - I'm like you about ginger. I cannot seem to make a smoothie for myself anymore without throwing in a good chunk of ginger. I LOVE the kick that ginger gives!

Franny

January 31, 2011

Well, hey, Lea Ann--I know of someone who can build (and do) just about

ANYTHING and who would actually get offended if you suggested that his

efforts might be any less attractive than something commercially

produced! Maybe you should contact this Renaissance Guy! )))

Re: Re: Juicing with the Vitamix

Â

I would rather have the nicer looking press than the home made one if I

could afford it - so this better price is a nice link to have! Â Â

Blessings,

Lea Ann Savage

Satellite Beach, FL

(321) 773-7088 (home)

(321-961-9219 (cell)

www.VitamixLady.com

www..com

& lt;)) & gt; & lt;

On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Deborah Drake, ND wrote:

Â

Here's the same press for a little less and free shipping:

http://www.rawjuicers.com/peoples-juice-press-welles-juice-press-juicer.html

& gt;

& gt; See this:

& gt; Â

& gt;

http://www.rawfoodlife.com/Products/Juicers/Hydraulic_Juice_Press/hydraulic_juic\

e_press.html

& gt; Â

& gt; The press in the e-book is the same idea. Both use a bottle jack

(at least that's how it looks). Homemade -- MUCH cheaper, and will do

the same thing.

& gt; Â

& gt; Deb

& gt;

January 31, 2011

You must be SO frustrated. (

Hey, the smoothies are better than nothing but she really needs the

juice. That Norwalk could possibly save her life--I wish she'd make use

of it.

Re: Juicing with the Vitamix

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& gt; Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 8:21 AM

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& gt; this is interesting!Â My husband and I watched the Gerson Miracle

and The Ugly truth and it totally sparked my interest.Â I would love to

juice daily- maybe not every hourÂ as for a family of 5- we'd be living

on the streets with our vitamix and produce Â However- If I can start

every day with a fresh juice- the kids as well- I think that would be

an excellent start and not too pricey- just this morning I did- a

carrot, and apple, a pinch of spinach, splash of 100% pomegrate juice

and a dollop of vanilla yogurt and the kids had it no problem.Â My

daughter said it was filling.Â So really a drink would count as a meal

right? Sorry now I'm getting OT- I will be following this topicÂ

& gt; Nadine Cruz-Saubert

& gt; Â

& gt;

January 31, 2011

Yep, she's also a genius. ;)FrannyOn Jan 31, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Schafer wrote: