Fw: DRAFT Notice to accompany Form 801

[Guest guest]

Dear Colleagues,

" Getting involved can make a difference " I'm sending you the latest

correspondence between myself and the policy analyst for the Workers' Comp

Division relative to the issue of Oregon injured workers being told they

must go to a particular medical provider by their employers and even

sometimes by the insurance carrier.

Please look at the attached new " Form 3283 " which must be given to injured

workers by the employers when they report and injury. You will notice under

the left sided fourth bullet the concept I suggested to the Division which

states: " Your employer cannot choose your health care provider for you. "

This is a huge statement to employers who are currently steering injured

workers to the " company doctor, " or the " Urgent Care Clinic, " or the local

" Occupational Medical Center. " Or even telling the injured worker when they

ask that " they can't see a chiropractor, they are not authorized to see a

chiropractic " etc., etc.

This is a very key development within the bowels of the Workers' Comp

Division. ODOC and the CAO are working together and working very hard to

gain an expansion of chiropractic services within Oregon's Workers' Comp and

we remain hopeful. However any expansion will mean very little if the

patients are continually being told by their employers they must go to this

or that medical provider or even that they cannot see a DC!

Just wanted you to know that we are shaking some folks trees and the fruits

of our labor are starting to land on the ground !!!

Happy and Prosperous New Year to Us All,

Vern Saboe PS: Please, please mark your calendars and commit to coming to

the Capitol Jan. 25 7:30 AM - 5:00 PM for " Chiropractic Day at the Capitol

2007 " TOGETHER we can make a difference!!!!!!!!

DRAFT Notice to accompany Form 801

>>>

>>>

>>>> Bruce Dennis Northwest Carpenters

>>>> Cia Hart Liberty Northwest Insurance

>>>> Ernie Delmazzo Injured Workers' Alliance

>>>> Ilene O'Malley Oregon Law Center

>>>> Flood Ombudsman for Injured Workers

>>>> Kay Abel Representing injured workers

>>>> Wilch SAIF Corporation

>>>> Lon Holston Management-Labor Advisory Committee

>>>> Cross Oregon Self-Insured Association

>>>> Randy M Elmer Kryger Egan Elmer & Carlson PC

>>>> Beyer, PA-C Oregon Society of Physician Assistants

>>>> Sheri Sundstrom Management-Labor Advisory Committee

>>>> Vern Saboe, DC Chiropractic Association of Oregon

>>>>

>>>> Regarding: DRAFT Form 3283, " A Guide for Workers Recently Hurt on

>>> the

>>>> Job "

>>>>

>>>> At our 9/26 advisory meeting, we discussed the importance of early

>>>> notice of treatment rights. To that end, the committee considered

>>> ways

>>>> to improve the existing Form 3283 that must be provided to workers

>>> when

>>>> they complete Form 801. (The 3283 could also be distributed with

>>> Form

>>>> 827; the Workers' Compensation Division supplies most 827s used by

>>>> Oregon providers.) I have attached a DRAFT copy of Form 3283 for

>>> your

>>>> review.

>>>>

>>>> The committee advised that this notice should address three

>>> concepts:

>>>> 1) how to file a claim; 2) how to obtain medical care; and 3) how

>> to

>>>> obtain payment for lost time from work.

>>>>

>>>> While we aimed to keep the information on this form sufficiently

>>>> general so workers would not think they are limited in their

> choice

>>> of

>>>> provider, we did list a number of provider-choice options. Please

>>> send

>>>> me your comments and recommended edits by November 9. We also

>>> welcome

>>>> comments on whether the same notice should be provided when Form

>> 827

>>> is

>>>> used as the first medical report.

>>>>

>>>> We continue to explore other concepts, such as a wallet-size

>>>> information card, pre-recorded telephone messages, and revisions

> to

>>> the

>>>> brochure, " What happens in I'm hurt on the job? " Your advice on

> the

>>>> attached form will help us to remain consistent with other

>>> publications

>>>> and outreach methods. (The same form is attached in different file

>>>> formats - contact me if you cannot open either file.)

>>>>

>>>> Thank you again for your assistance! Please contact me if you have

>>>> questions.

>>>>

>>>> Sincerely,

>>>>

>>>> Fred Bruyns, Policy Analyst/Rules Coordinator

>>>> Oregon Workers' Compensation Division

>>>> Policy Section

>>>> (503) 947 7717 fax (503) 947 7581

>>>> fred.h.bruyns@...

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

F.Y.I.,

Relative to our new Workers' Comp Law increasing visits....

And....stopping the steering of injured workers by employers!

Vern SAboe

Re: DRAFT Notice to accompany Form 801

Dr. Saboe,

Thank you for contacting me about this. Staff are working on a revised

" What happens If I'm hurt on the job? " now, and we will revisit the

Notice (Form 3283) that accompanies Form 801, if needed. However,

because the 3283 does not give any time limits, and it does not define

attending physician, I think it will still be true when the new law is

effective. Its emphasis is the worker's right to choose a health care

provider, and HB 2756 did not limit that. See:

http://www.cbs.state.or.us/external/wcd/policy/bulletins/docconv_9537/3283.p

df

Rulemaking is underway to implement HB 2756 and a number of other

bills. We would welcome your attendance at any or all of the advisory

committee meetings. I have attached our rulemaking calendar that

provides information about these meetings. Because laws are effective

the first of the year (or earlier), all of our rulemaking must be

completed prior to that. On our current time line, notice of proposed

rulemaking (summary of changes, Web site look-up information, how to get

hard copies, etc.) will be mailed before the end of August.

WCD staff are also preparing documents that providers (DCs, NDs, PAs, &

Podiatrists) will review before acting as attending physicians after the

first of the year. We will notify these providers using lists from the

licensing boards. I cannot say exactly when we will mail the documents,

but the entire process, from mailing to review and providers' responses

- must be completed by 1/1/2008.

Please let me know if you have additional questions or if I may assist

in any way.

Sincerely,

Fred Bruyns, Policy Analyst/Rules Coordinator

Oregon Workers' Compensation Division

Policy Section

(503) 947-7717 fax (503) 947-7581

fred.h.bruyns@...

>>> " Vern Saboe " <vsaboe@...> 7/1/2007 6:33 AM >>>

Hi Fred,

Now that the Governor has signed HB-2756 what's the timeline for

getting

these new materials to Oregon employers, providers, and carriers?

Thanks,

Vern Saboe

Chiropractic Assoc. of Oregon

DRAFT Notice to accompany Form 801

>>>

>>>

>>>> Bruce Dennis Northwest Carpenters

>>>> Cia Hart Liberty Northwest Insurance

>>>> Ernie Delmazzo Injured Workers' Alliance

>>>> Ilene O'Malley Oregon Law Center

>>>> Flood Ombudsman for Injured Workers

>>>> Kay Abel Representing injured workers

>>>> Wilch SAIF Corporation

>>>> Lon Holston Management-Labor Advisory Committee

>>>> Cross Oregon Self-Insured Association

>>>> Randy M Elmer Kryger Egan Elmer & Carlson PC

>>>> Beyer, PA-C Oregon Society of Physician Assistants

>>>> Sheri Sundstrom Management-Labor Advisory Committee

>>>> Vern Saboe, DC Chiropractic Association of Oregon

>>>>

>>>> Regarding: DRAFT Form 3283, " A Guide for Workers Recently Hurt on

>>> the

>>>> Job "

>>>>

>>>> At our 9/26 advisory meeting, we discussed the importance of

early

>>>> notice of treatment rights. To that end, the committee considered

>>> ways

>>>> to improve the existing Form 3283 that must be provided to

workers

>>> when

>>>> they complete Form 801. (The 3283 could also be distributed with

>>> Form

>>>> 827; the Workers' Compensation Division supplies most 827s used

by

>>>> Oregon providers.) I have attached a DRAFT copy of Form 3283 for

>>> your

>>>> review.

>>>>

>>>> The committee advised that this notice should address three

>>> concepts:

>>>> 1) how to file a claim; 2) how to obtain medical care; and 3) how

>> to

>>>> obtain payment for lost time from work.

>>>>

>>>> While we aimed to keep the information on this form sufficiently

>>>> general so workers would not think they are limited in their

> choice

>>> of

>>>> provider, we did list a number of provider-choice options. Please

>>> send

>>>> me your comments and recommended edits by November 9. We also

>>> welcome

>>>> comments on whether the same notice should be provided when Form

>> 827

>>> is

>>>> used as the first medical report.

>>>>

>>>> We continue to explore other concepts, such as a wallet-size

>>>> information card, pre-recorded telephone messages, and revisions

> to

>>> the

>>>> brochure, " What happens in I'm hurt on the job? " Your advice on

> the

>>>> attached form will help us to remain consistent with other

>>> publications

>>>> and outreach methods. (The same form is attached in different

file

>>>> formats - contact me if you cannot open either file.)

>>>>

>>>> Thank you again for your assistance! Please contact me if you

have

>>>> questions.

>>>>

>>>> Sincerely,

>>>>

>>>> Fred Bruyns, Policy Analyst/Rules Coordinator

>>>> Oregon Workers' Compensation Division

>>>> Policy Section

>>>> (503) 947 7717 fax (503) 947 7581

>>>> fred.h.bruyns@...

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Colleagues,

Proof positive that we can facilitate positive changes in state government

and many is the time it's simply a matter of taking the time and being part

of the process a.k.a. helping to drive the bus rather than sitting in the

back seat being driven!

So here's to the end of the inappropriate steering of Oregon Injured Workers

to the local Occ Med Clinic, the Urgent Care Clinic, or the " company (hack)

doctor...

To the continued good fight cheers,

Vern Saboe

Re: DRAFT Notice to accompany Form 801

Dr. Saboe,

We sent a notice to roughly 90,000 employers, medical providers, and

insurers, etc., in March of this year, along with the " Guide for Workers

Recently Hurt on the Job, " that was developed through your efforts and

input from other committee members.

Here is the link to that publication:

http://www.cbs.state.or.us/external/wcd/communications/industry_notices/choo

se_prov.pdf

Because the mailing prompted a number of calls from employers (who

began to question their own practices), we think it did serve to educate

many system participants about worker's rights to choose providers. We

are still drafting changes to the larger brochure " What happens if I'm

hurt on the job?, " to reflect recent law changes, and we will send this

to the advisory committee before too long for your input.

One other change that we have yet to implement is a telephone message

system that callers could use to get prerecorded messages on three

primary questions: 1) How do I file a claim; 2) How can I get treated

(and who by); and 3) How can I get paid for time lost from work. We have

the system more or less designed, but we have not had staff available to

do the phone programming (due to illness), so that has been delayed.

If you would like additional information or if I may assist in any way,

please feel free to contact me.

Sincerely,

Fred Bruyns, Policy Analyst/Rules Coordinator

Oregon Workers' Compensation Division

Policy Section

(503) 947-7717 fax (503) 947-7581

fred.h.bruyns@...

>>> " Vern Saboe " <vsaboe@...> 7/23/2007 7:27 AM >>>

Me again,

Sorry you probably told me this prior but when is the date that all

these

materials will be in the hands of employers and providers?

Reason I ask is that I'm organizing a informational meeting for

employers,

labor union folk, providers, and carriers as per current Oregon law &

rules

regarding injured worker's treatment rights etc.

Tanks for all you do Fred,

Vern Saboe

DRAFT Notice to accompany Form 801

>>>

>>>

>>>> Bruce Dennis Northwest Carpenters

>>>> Cia Hart Liberty Northwest Insurance

>>>> Ernie Delmazzo Injured Workers' Alliance

>>>> Ilene O'Malley Oregon Law Center

>>>> Flood Ombudsman for Injured Workers

>>>> Kay Abel Representing injured workers

>>>> Wilch SAIF Corporation

>>>> Lon Holston Management-Labor Advisory Committee

>>>> Cross Oregon Self-Insured Association

>>>> Randy M Elmer Kryger Egan Elmer & Carlson PC

>>>> Beyer, PA-C Oregon Society of Physician Assistants

>>>> Sheri Sundstrom Management-Labor Advisory Committee

>>>> Vern Saboe, DC Chiropractic Association of Oregon

>>>>

>>>> Regarding: DRAFT Form 3283, " A Guide for Workers Recently Hurt on

>>> the

>>>> Job "

>>>>

>>>> At our 9/26 advisory meeting, we discussed the importance of

early

>>>> notice of treatment rights. To that end, the committee considered

>>> ways

>>>> to improve the existing Form 3283 that must be provided to

workers

>>> when

>>>> they complete Form 801. (The 3283 could also be distributed with

>>> Form

>>>> 827; the Workers' Compensation Division supplies most 827s used

by

>>>> Oregon providers.) I have attached a DRAFT copy of Form 3283 for

>>> your

>>>> review.

>>>>

>>>> The committee advised that this notice should address three

>>> concepts:

>>>> 1) how to file a claim; 2) how to obtain medical care; and 3) how

>> to

>>>> obtain payment for lost time from work.

>>>>

>>>> While we aimed to keep the information on this form sufficiently

>>>> general so workers would not think they are limited in their

> choice

>>> of

>>>> provider, we did list a number of provider-choice options. Please

>>> send

>>>> me your comments and recommended edits by November 9. We also

>>> welcome

>>>> comments on whether the same notice should be provided when Form

>> 827

>>> is

>>>> used as the first medical report.

>>>>

>>>> We continue to explore other concepts, such as a wallet-size

>>>> information card, pre-recorded telephone messages, and revisions

> to

>>> the

>>>> brochure, " What happens in I'm hurt on the job? " Your advice on

> the

>>>> attached form will help us to remain consistent with other

>>> publications

>>>> and outreach methods. (The same form is attached in different

file

>>>> formats - contact me if you cannot open either file.)

>>>>

>>>> Thank you again for your assistance! Please contact me if you

have

>>>> questions.

>>>>

>>>> Sincerely,

>>>>

>>>> Fred Bruyns, Policy Analyst/Rules Coordinator

>>>> Oregon Workers' Compensation Division

>>>> Policy Section

>>>> (503) 947 7717 fax (503) 947 7581

>>>> fred.h.bruyns@...

>>>>

>>>>

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