M&P

December 6, 2000

Yes, you can add all kinds of things to m & p soap-about a tablespoon max, though,

if it's an oil or " liquid " additive.

For those embedded pieces-do not add them when they are chilly from the fridge

or freezer. They'll " cling " the best when they're freshly made (at least that's

my experience), and you'll want them at room temperature. Yes, do spray them

with alcohol right before they're embedded. Make sure your overpour is 1)warm

enough to seal well to the embedded pieces and 2)isn't so warm that you'll melt

the embedded pieces. Sorry, this will come with some trial and error. For me,

if the overpour feels pretty warm, but isn't hot, well, it's probably ok to do

the overpour. And let the soap sit until it's hard-don't immediately put it

into the fridge. I do sometimes but them in the fridge for about five minutes

to pop them more easily out of the molds, but that's it. Believe me, it's much

better to get more molds then to have to struggle getting the soaps out of the

molds before they're really ready!

Hope that helps.

Michele J.

April 21, 2001

, she will only need a few drops per bar of soap. Whether she

blends or keeps separate. I do suggest some reading on EO before she

begins (She probably has already). I like to also put dried lavender in

some of my bars of lavender, but it alway's turns brown. Does anyone

know why this happens. lavender is the only herb i seem to have this

problem with. Either of you are welcome to e-mail me to get into this

more.

Blessings,

April 21, 2001

Hello...

what EO/FOs are you speaking of ,? I only do M & P and darn it... I end

up dumping 2 tbsp AT LEAST per 1.5 pounds! The ONLY EO/FO that is strong

enough to smell (and stays with the soaps) is Peppermint! That scent only

needs a few drops to last and actually be *smellable* in my soaps! I am

going through TONS of scents (FOs) .. what's wrong on my end?

HELP!

Misha

P.S. ANYONE who has done a craft show: How many of each bar would you

suggest I bring for a big(200-300 vendors) Xmas craft show? (These shows had

NO SOAPERS at them last November!) I have about 11 different scents and

colors of M & P soaps that I make plus 3 " kiddie soaps " ... I need some input

gang!

April 26, 2001

Try weighing your scents-1 oz. per lb. of base. Some you will need a bit more

of to really " pop " the smell up, or you may want to change scents/find a " base

note " to add to some scents to make them stronger. It's trial and error-I've

been working on a green tea scent for nearly a year and can't get it strong

enough, darn it.

Don't look at the number of vendors to figure out how much to bring to your

show. Did you pay an entry fee? The formula I use is figure you want to sell

at least 10 times what your entry fee was. So, if your entry fee was $100, you

want to sell $1000 of soap. Divide $1000 by your average price per bar. Let's

say $4.00-divide $1000 by $4.00, that's 250 bars of soap. Round that up to 300

(of course you'll have great sales!). Bring more of the easier-to-sell scents,

less of the experimental scents, and know that you will, no matter what you do,

run out of your best-selling scents way too early!

Good Luck

Michele H.

April 26, 2001

Hey, thanks Michele, for a really easy way to figure out what I need to take!

I've already got a few batches aging, getting ready for this. So, now I'm going

to concentrate on the ones everyone has loved so far. My tried and trues, so to

speak. Lord help me, it's a long time til August, and I'm gonna be a wreck by

the time it gets here!

Patti

mjones1628@... wrote:

> Don't look at the number of vendors to figure out how much to bring to your

show. Did you pay an entry fee? The formula I use is figure you want to sell

at least 10 times what your entry fee was. So, if your entry fee was $100, you

want to sell $1000 of soap. Divide $1000 by your average price per bar. Let's

say $4.00-divide $1000 by $4.00, that's 250 bars of soap. Round that up to 300

(of course you'll have great sales!). Bring more of the easier-to-sell scents,

less of the experimental scents, and know that you will, no matter what you do,

run out of your best-selling scents way too early!

>

> Good Luck

> Michele H.

April 27, 2001

On the green tea fragrance.. have you tried the one from Pourette? They

have a really nice green tea fragrance, and if you still need a bit of a

kick add a little milkthistle.

Re: M & P

> Try weighing your scents-1 oz. per lb. of base. Some you will need a bit

more of to really " pop " the smell up, or you may want to change scents/find

a " base note " to add to some scents to make them stronger. It's trial and

error-I've been working on a green tea scent for nearly a year and can't get

it strong enough, darn it.

>

> Don't look at the number of vendors to figure out how much to bring to

your show. Did you pay an entry fee? The formula I use is figure you want

to sell at least 10 times what your entry fee was. So, if your entry fee

was $100, you want to sell $1000 of soap. Divide $1000 by your average

price per bar. Let's say $4.00-divide $1000 by $4.00, that's 250 bars of

soap. Round that up to 300 (of course you'll have great sales!). Bring

more of the easier-to-sell scents, less of the experimental scents, and know

that you will, no matter what you do, run out of your best-selling scents

way too early!

>

> Good Luck

> Michele H.

>

April 27, 2001

Hi ~

The subject line on this says M & P...do you know if Pourette's Green Tea fos

will withstand cp? And what is this about milkthistle? )

Thanks~

Tammy

Gladheart Acres

> On the green tea fragrance.. have you tried the one from Pourette? They

> have a really nice green tea fragrance, and if you still need a bit of a

> kick add a little milkthistle.

>

April 27, 2001

Eeek for the green tea I'm really not sure about cp, I only do m & p. The

bottle says candle and soap, but doesn't distinguish any further. However

they are quite helpful there so a quick call would do the trick

As to the milkthistle, its a weed supposedly with therapeautic properties.

But the fragrance oil? ah its one of those can't get enough of it wonderful

sharp green scents, really perfect for adding to green tea. You can't use

Pourette's milkthistle as its only for candles. The local company we got

ours from (for soap) closed down months ago and we have precious little

left, so I'm also hunting for a new supplier for that. I think I may end up

sending a sample of it to Royal Aromatics and asking them to make some

because I have been unable to find any. Anybody out there know where it can

be found?

Re: M & P

> Hi ~

>

> The subject line on this says M & P...do you know if Pourette's Green Tea

fos

> will withstand cp? And what is this about milkthistle? )

>

> Thanks~

> Tammy

> Gladheart Acres

>

> > On the green tea fragrance.. have you tried the one from Pourette? They

> > have a really nice green tea fragrance, and if you still need a bit of a

> > kick add a little milkthistle.

> >

>

May 2, 2001

Thanks for the info-I'll have to give them a try. I've had folks pick up my

tea-scented soaps and think they were non-scented ones. I like the green tea,

but I've had a hard time getting it to sell. Thought I'd use it as a " base "

scent, instead of cucumber, but I may go back.

Michele H.

September 21, 2001

Janet

I do mainly CP, but every once in a while I do M & P. The last M & P base I

got was from MMS (Mountain Majestic Sage) It melts really nice, better than

store bought M & P. Color & frarance you add in at the end before you pour.

On fragrance go with what you like. If you like light start with just a few

drops to see how it is then adjust from there. You melt M & P in the

microwave. Do not over stir it will add alot of bubbles. Any more ? just

ask! I like doing this for a quick fix. My mom asked for soaps for some

gift baskets. She gave me 3 days warning. wanted in purple and green.

Didn't have enough CP so out came the M & P!

If you do craft shows it would look nice if you had both at your booth.

This way you have more of a variety!

OH and YES it can be used right away!

Michele

September 16, 2002

>>>>>Melt and pour soap is never made with lye - its made with saponified

>>>>>soap, which no longer contains lye in its original form. CP or HP soap

>>>>>is definitely not meltable<<<<<<<<

Yes, Melt and pour soap is processed soap BUT it can be " originally made "

with lye or chemicals.

However, when one purchases M & P, it is already processed and ready to melt

down to add the additives.

And one " can melt down " CP and HP soap by adding water to it, it is called

rebatching soap or french milled soap.

Additives like colorants, spices, herbs, herbal waters, clays, EO and FO,

etc are all added to melted down soaps wether M & P or other.

hth

Sherry

http://www.herbalsoap-healingcreams.com/

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November 11, 2002

I'm sorry but is there REALLY a " soap fairy " ? there web site did not

work AND THEY really might need to do a little more home work...the M & P

I use comes from SFIC an anyone can go to their site an check out the

ingredents of their " glycerine " soap...there is NO detergents,

surfactants/sulfates, or animal fats or testing ...(unless you request

the goats milk base or such) .it contains Saponified Veg. oils (mainly

coconut), Glycerine (kosher of veg-origin) purified water, moisturizers

an emulsifier....I then add to my own Glycerine soaps---Jojobo oil,

Sweet Almond oil, & /or castor oil,,,, goats milk or buttermilk--an have

even been known to add a touch of either Emu oil or Ostrich

oil....depending on my mood an what I want to make....so sorry but when

folks make such broaf statesments they really should get ALL the facts

first...as Personally I have some customers that sure would debate the

question as to wheather M & P is good or not----an I might add....I have

yet (except maybe that awful stuff at s or JoAnns that got most

of us started before we knew any better -- LOL!) to fine any M & P with

Alcohol an all these nasties . Also---hate to bring this

up....but.....M & P has to get so hot to melt an work with ...an as I

remember.... alcohol burns off with heat...it just looks good on a Baked

Alaska dessert--flaming--for a few short minutes. till it is

gone....even if you bake with it ... it burns off.... sorry but ...

JMHO....

Charlie!

Never be afried to try something new.

Remember, amateurs built the Ark,

Professionals built the Titanic.

November 12, 2002

In a message dated 11/12/2002 7:13:38 AM Eastern Standard Time,

quiltinggranny@... writes:

> I use comes from SFIC an anyone can go to their site an check out the

> ingredents of their " glycerine " soap...there is NO detergents,

> surfactants/sulfates, or animal fats or testing ...(unless you request

> the goats milk base or such) .it contains Saponified Veg. oils (mainly

> coconut), Glycerine (kosher of veg-origin) purified water, moisturizers

> an emulsifier....I then add to my own Glycerine soaps---Jojobo oil,

> Sweet Almond oil, & /or castor oil,,,, goats milk or buttermilk--an have

> even been known to add a touch of either Emu oil or Ostrich

> oil....depending on my mood an what I want to make....so sorry but when

> folks make such broaf statesments they really should get ALL the facts

> first...as Personally I have some customers that sure would debate the

> question as to wheather M & P is good or not----an I might add....I have

> yet (except maybe that awful stuff at s or JoAnns that got most

> of us started before we knew any better -- LOL!) to fine any M & P with

> Alcohol an all these nasties . Also---hate to bring this

>

I wholeheartedly agree ! What I use is MP. I only buy from suppliers who

give the ingredients. I think many are unnaturally biased on this

November 12, 2002

Hiya, I as well buy from SFIC, and I work hard to make my soaps attractive and

fragrant, and I can take special orders as to shape and

scent....................m & p go, go

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