Re: Ready to give this up!

[Guest guest]

I usually lurk on this board but wanted to respond because I too get

discouraged. In dealing with that right now I have to constantly remind

myself I didn't put this weight on overnight and it certainly isn't going to

go away overnight. Everyday I focus on a positive change and they are not

always physical changes for example I have more energy, I am more frequently

making better food choices. You said you are stronger and more toned that is

a huge gain. You said your bf has noticed changes often others can see what

we cannot. Just take a look at your diet, be honest with yourself and keep on

keeping on. Remember we want this to be for life.

[Guest guest]

Most of us who do the calorie counting have done BFL a few times.

My first challenge, I saw no results until week 11.5. Seriously. It

wasnt until then and then it seemed like it all came off overnight.

Dont give up.

Why not post a daily menu. Maybe there is room for improvement?

Shonda

> Hello Ladies,

> I am looking for some sort of inspiration or thoughts on this. I

am

> completeley and totally frustrated. I am at the same weight, and my

> clothes are not fitting any differently. I am ultra discouraged,

and

> this is my 10th week. My body is sore, and I am hungry every 2 to 3

> hours...All for what?????? Yes, I have gotten stronger, and more

> toned but I still can't wear a size 8. I am still in all my 10s. I

> just want to lose 10 lbs. I feel like I would have already lost 20

or

> atleast 15 on another program. Why is this not working for me.? Why

> are people counting calories. I thought it was all about portions.

I

> can't deal wit fit day. Is is good to be this obsessed with food

all

> day??? I am doing everything right, and I just don't know what to

do.

> My bf has been encouraging me and saying I have made alot of gains

> but, I don't feel like i have. I just want this 10 pounds off...I

> don't care how strong I am. What if I do a commercial weight loss

> program but still do the workouts???? Any ideas..HELP!

[Guest guest]

Joanne:

This is only my 4th week. Why don't you post a menu and let everyone take a

look at it.

You don't have to be obsessed w/food, but some of us are.

I am a data person. People are going to have different opinions on the calorie

thing. Look at hussman.org. I am a believer in the fact that you have to

create a calorie deficit in order to lose body fat. The only way you are going

to be able to keep up with a deficit is to keep a record and count.

I am in my fourth week and have only lost 1 pound. When I was taking diet pills

and not eating I would have lost 10 by now. BUT this is healthier. Don't give

up, it works!!!!! You have to believe in it and stick with it. You have come

too far to give up now.

Keep posting and reading the post, you can do it!

Noelle

Ready to give this up!

Hello Ladies,

I am looking for some sort of inspiration or thoughts on this. I am

completeley and totally frustrated. I am at the same weight, and my

clothes are not fitting any differently. I am ultra discouraged, and

this is my 10th week. My body is sore, and I am hungry every 2 to 3

hours...All for what?????? Yes, I have gotten stronger, and more

toned but I still can't wear a size 8. I am still in all my 10s. I

just want to lose 10 lbs. I feel like I would have already lost 20 or

atleast 15 on another program. Why is this not working for me.? Why

are people counting calories. I thought it was all about portions. I

can't deal wit fit day. Is is good to be this obsessed with food all

day??? I am doing everything right, and I just don't know what to do.

My bf has been encouraging me and saying I have made alot of gains

but, I don't feel like i have. I just want this 10 pounds off...I

don't care how strong I am. What if I do a commercial weight loss

program but still do the workouts???? Any ideas..HELP!

[Guest guest]

> That was so nice. I have gone over my menus w/ my bf who is doing

this as well, and he is a person who has been working out/personal

trainer for 20 years.

1. flax cereal,chicken breast

2. eas advantedge bar

3. apple, chicken breast

4. cottage chhese, cherries

5. chicken,fish, veggies, salad,

1. egg beaters, broccolli, 1/4 ww pita 1 tsp. pbutter

2. eas advantedge bar

3. tuna, peach

4. eas advantedge bar

5. chicken breast, green beans, salad, cherries

Here are 2 sample menus

please advise

[Guest guest]

Well, your menus look pretty good. I know, I know, I know BFL doesn't say

anything about counting, it's about portions, but are you measuring?

I have been using Fitday and I think you said you didn't like it, but I think

its kind of neat. I can see where my stuff is coming from. For instance, I try

to stay around 1200 to 1300 which isn't a huge deficit, I could go lower. But

anyway, yesterday I was at 1400. I had too much when I had that last protein

shake. I see that now.

Maybe you could cut the EAS bars and do a 1/2 cup cottage cheese and a half an

apple. That would be less calories right there.

I am trying not to do the bars unless I just have to. And, I do on Saturdays

when I'm on shopping trips etc.

Just keep on doing what you are doing. It will work for you! You have come this

far. I can't wait to be in week 10.

Noelle

Re: Ready to give this up!

> That was so nice. I have gone over my menus w/ my bf who is doing

this as well, and he is a person who has been working out/personal

trainer for 20 years.

1. flax cereal,chicken breast

2. eas advantedge bar

3. apple, chicken breast

4. cottage chhese, cherries

5. chicken,fish, veggies, salad,

1. egg beaters, broccolli, 1/4 ww pita 1 tsp. pbutter

2. eas advantedge bar

3. tuna, peach

4. eas advantedge bar

5. chicken breast, green beans, salad, cherries

Here are 2 sample menus

please advise

[Guest guest]

Maybe you should re-visit your goals. I did that last week and it

helped a lot. I'm like you, I have that *last* 10 pounds to lose,

which we all know is the toughest, hardest, incredibly stubborn to

lose!

Don't get discouraged though! A lot of women have better suggestions

than myself on the nutrition part, but as far as your weights, maybe

try doing something different? Have you changed your workout every 4-

6 weeks? Try that maybe.

Good luck, and stick with it! You can do it. I'd tried everything to

lose that extra weight, and this is the only thing that worked. Keep

us posted!

Jana

C1W9D3

>

>

> > That was so nice. I have gone over my menus w/ my bf who is

doing

> this as well, and he is a person who has been working

out/personal

> trainer for 20 years.

> 1. flax cereal,chicken breast

> 2. eas advantedge bar

> 3. apple, chicken breast

> 4. cottage chhese, cherries

> 5. chicken,fish, veggies, salad,

>

>

> 1. egg beaters, broccolli, 1/4 ww pita 1 tsp. pbutter

> 2. eas advantedge bar

> 3. tuna, peach

> 4. eas advantedge bar

> 5. chicken breast, green beans, salad, cherries

> Here are 2 sample menus

> please advise

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Joanne - I just wanted to chime in with my 2 cents. I did a challenge

last summer and had great results. However, I only lost about 6 or 7

pounds. It is true that it does seem to happen overnight - usually

sometime in the last 4 weeks of the program (for some people it's not

until week 12!). It seemed like I woke up one morning and the shorts

that were snug the day before were suddenly a little looser. If you

have read the " Hussman on BFL " article, check it out. It's a great

backup and booster to the BFL book (www.hussman.org/fitness/). This

really will work, it just takes longer for some people than for

others! It's hard to change that mindset that focuses us on the

bathroom scale, but you have to get away from that. I started again

about 10 weeks ago and haven't weighed once. I know some people

would say that I need to track my progress, but I feel my progress in

my clothes. It's not significant YET, but I am seeing more muscle

defininition and I know it will come! Hang in there!

> Hello Ladies,

> I am looking for some sort of inspiration or thoughts on this. I

am

> completeley and totally frustrated. I am at the same weight, and my

> clothes are not fitting any differently. I am ultra discouraged,

and

> this is my 10th week. My body is sore, and I am hungry every 2 to 3

> hours...All for what?????? Yes, I have gotten stronger, and more

> toned but I still can't wear a size 8. I am still in all my 10s. I

> just want to lose 10 lbs. I feel like I would have already lost 20

or

> atleast 15 on another program. Why is this not working for me.? Why

> are people counting calories. I thought it was all about portions.

I

> can't deal wit fit day. Is is good to be this obsessed with food

all

> day??? I am doing everything right, and I just don't know what to

do.

> My bf has been encouraging me and saying I have made alot of gains

> but, I don't feel like i have. I just want this 10 pounds off...I

> don't care how strong I am. What if I do a commercial weight loss

> program but still do the workouts???? Any ideas..HELP!

[Guest guest]

I don't know what to tell you darlin. I have seen this complaint

several times and seen many people say that they didn't SEE the

results until they viewed the pics and literally until that 11th or

12th week. Plus, you're a size 10 and prolly not in that bad of

shape?? The less you have to improve and lose, the less 'dramatic'

the results will be.

Another thing is, have you REALLY been hitting those 10s, getting

that cardio in and drinking your WATER? I have just heard that those

can be huge determining factors.

And as a side note, I DO have experience in fad diets. They DO

work. BUT, you can't keep that up for life like you can BFL and most

are very unhealthy and will cause 'weight' loss, but not necessarily

FAT loss. So, you may end up losing precious fat burning muscle in

the bargain.

Good luck in whatever you decide. I'm sorry you're feeling down.

I was just talking to my hubby the other day and said to him 'I'm

eating better than ever before, I'm chugging water...the weight

should just be FALLING off'...I feel like I shouldn't even HAVE to

work out, ya know? Not true, however and I DO FEEL better, even if

it's not visually noticable yet!

Astra

> Hello Ladies,

> I am looking for some sort of inspiration or thoughts on this. I

am

> completeley and totally frustrated. I am at the same weight, and my

> clothes are not fitting any differently. I am ultra discouraged,

and

> this is my 10th week. My body is sore, and I am hungry every 2 to 3

> hours...All for what?????? Yes, I have gotten stronger, and more

> toned but I still can't wear a size 8. I am still in all my 10s. I

> just want to lose 10 lbs. I feel like I would have already lost 20

or

> atleast 15 on another program. Why is this not working for me.? Why

> are people counting calories. I thought it was all about portions.

I

> can't deal wit fit day. Is is good to be this obsessed with food

all

> day??? I am doing everything right, and I just don't know what to

do.

> My bf has been encouraging me and saying I have made alot of gains

> but, I don't feel like i have. I just want this 10 pounds off...I

> don't care how strong I am. What if I do a commercial weight loss

> program but still do the workouts???? Any ideas..HELP!

[Guest guest]

The only thing that jumps out at me are those advantedge bars. I

know people have had better success without them. Also, you may want

to revisit the portions. There seems to be alot of confusion over

palm and fist sizes. Some people include their fingers, which is

just too much. Some people are using water displacement and coming

up with 1 cup for carbs. I think that's normally too much. If you

have 200lbs to lose, it's fine. But trying to tweak from a size 10

to a size 8, may take less food than that.

Astra

> > That was so nice. I have gone over my menus w/ my bf who is doing

> this as well, and he is a person who has been working out/personal

> trainer for 20 years.

> 1. flax cereal,chicken breast

> 2. eas advantedge bar

> 3. apple, chicken breast

> 4. cottage chhese, cherries

> 5. chicken,fish, veggies, salad,

>

>

> 1. egg beaters, broccolli, 1/4 ww pita 1 tsp. pbutter

> 2. eas advantedge bar

> 3. tuna, peach

> 4. eas advantedge bar

> 5. chicken breast, green beans, salad, cherries

> Here are 2 sample menus

> please advise

[Guest guest]

Joanne - One other thought - are you sure you are eating enough

calories??? Sometimes that can be the problem on this program, too.

(What a great plan - I actually have to eat to lose weight! HA!) I

know that for each of my 6 meals I need about 290 cals with about 25g

protein, 25g carb and 6g fat. I don't measure and count everything I

eat, but I have that in mind so that I know that I'm getting enough.

I don't have an Advantage Bar in the house right now, but I'm

thinking that may not be enough to qualify for a true BFL " meal. "

Just double check yourself to be sure. I am hungry every 2-3 hours,

too, but that's the whole idea...lots of small meals spread out

through the day. You might need a little than that since you are

only eating 5x a day. Hussman can help you figure that out.

> > That was so nice. I have gone over my menus w/ my bf who is doing

> this as well, and he is a person who has been working out/personal

> trainer for 20 years.

> 1. flax cereal,chicken breast

> 2. eas advantedge bar

> 3. apple, chicken breast

> 4. cottage chhese, cherries

> 5. chicken,fish, veggies, salad,

>

>

> 1. egg beaters, broccolli, 1/4 ww pita 1 tsp. pbutter

> 2. eas advantedge bar

> 3. tuna, peach

> 4. eas advantedge bar

> 5. chicken breast, green beans, salad, cherries

> Here are 2 sample menus

> please advise

[Guest guest]

> Hello Ladies,

> I am looking for some sort of inspiration or thoughts on this. I

am

> completeley and totally frustrated. I am at the same weight, and my

> clothes are not fitting any differently. I am ultra discouraged,

and

> this is my 10th week. My body is sore, and I am hungry every 2 to 3

> hours...All for what?????? Yes, I have gotten stronger, and more

> toned but I still can't wear a size 8. I am still in all my 10s. I

> just want to lose 10 lbs. I feel like I would have already lost 20

or

> atleast 15 on another program.

Joanne,

Did you take your measurements and calculate your body fat? Did you

take before pictures? Sometimes the scale is actually the least

accurate way to gauge your progress. If you go to bodychangers at:

http://www.bodychangers.com/nextlevel.shtml

Go to the interviews. Some women actually gained weight (a few

pounds) and lost body fat and had really visible transformations. So

maybe you need to measure your progress differently?

Colleen

[Guest guest]

> > That was so nice. I have gone over my menus w/ my bf who is doing

> this as well, and he is a person who has been working out/personal

> trainer for 20 years.

> 1. flax cereal,chicken breast

> 2. eas advantedge bar

> 3. apple, chicken breast

> 4. cottage chhese, cherries

> 5. chicken,fish, veggies, salad,

>

>

> 1. egg beaters, broccolli, 1/4 ww pita 1 tsp. pbutter

> 2. eas advantedge bar

> 3. tuna, peach

> 4. eas advantedge bar

> 5. chicken breast, green beans, salad, cherries

> Here are 2 sample menus

> please advise

Joanne,

I'd try cutting out the bars if you can and also make sure to get in

a serving of veggies with at least two of your meals. You also

should be getting in six meals a day. Other than that, I'll let the

experts have a go at it as I'm still new to this.

Colleen

[Guest guest]

joanne_woods6 wrote:

> Hello Ladies,

> I am looking for some sort of inspiration or thoughts on this. I am

> completeley and totally frustrated. I am at the same weight, and my

> clothes are not fitting any differently. I am ultra discouraged, and

> this is my 10th week. My body is sore, and I am hungry every 2 to 3

> hours...All for what?????? Yes, I have gotten stronger, and more

> toned but I still can't wear a size 8. I am still in all my 10s. I

> just want to lose 10 lbs. I feel like I would have already lost 20 or

> atleast 15 on another program. Why is this not working for me.? Why

> are people counting calories. I thought it was all about portions. I

> can't deal wit fit day. Is is good to be this obsessed with food all

> day??? I am doing everything right, and I just don't know what to do.

> My bf has been encouraging me and saying I have made alot of gains

> but, I don't feel like i have. I just want this 10 pounds off...I

> don't care how strong I am. What if I do a commercial weight loss

> program but still do the workouts???? Any ideas..HELP!

Hiya

The closer you get to your goal, the harder it becomes.. and, if you only had

ten pounds to lose, that means it's harder But you're getting stronger

which means you're building muscle. Body For Life isn't about quick

weight loss.. it's about building your best body for life. And part of that

is gaining muscle while you lose weight. The program -will- work (I'd say it

is working if you're stronger!) but it will take time.

I've been doing BFL since Jan 14th. I use portion sizes.. I don't obsess

with calories and food all the time.. and I'm seeing great results. I have

way more energy, I'm sleeping better, my clothes (even though I haven't

dropped a size) are fitting a heck of a lot better than they ever did, I'm

stronger, I'm healthier, and life is better in general.

Your weight loss will come.. just focus on the other results until it does

Yes, you probably could have lost more weight by now with another program

but I guarantee that some/most of that weight loss would have been muscle.

You can do it.. just have patience

Serenity

[Guest guest]

joanne_woods6 wrote:

>

> > That was so nice. I have gone over my menus w/ my bf who is doing

> this as well, and he is a person who has been working out/personal

> trainer for 20 years.

> 1. flax cereal,chicken breast

> 2. eas advantedge bar

> 3. apple, chicken breast

> 4. cottage chhese, cherries

> 5. chicken,fish, veggies, salad,

>

> 1. egg beaters, broccolli, 1/4 ww pita 1 tsp. pbutter

> 2. eas advantedge bar

> 3. tuna, peach

> 4. eas advantedge bar

> 5. chicken breast, green beans, salad, cherries

> Here are 2 sample menus

> please advise

Hiya The EAS bars are way high in Sugar. I'd recommend switching to more

whole foods for better results. Also.. you could probably use more veggies

Have you measured your hand? A lot of women fall prey to the ever

shrinking portion size.. and then you run the risk of not giving your body

the fuel that it needs to burn fat and build muscle. My hand is between 2/3

cup and 1 cup so, when I worry that I'm getting off track, I measure.

Serenity

[Guest guest]

jana5522 wrote:

> Maybe you should re-visit your goals. I did that last week and it

> helped a lot. I'm like you, I have that *last* 10 pounds to lose,

> which we all know is the toughest, hardest, incredibly stubborn to

> lose!

>

> Don't get discouraged though! A lot of women have better suggestions

> than myself on the nutrition part, but as far as your weights, maybe

> try doing something different? Have you changed your workout every 4-

> 6 weeks? Try that maybe.

>

> Good luck, and stick with it! You can do it. I'd tried everything to

> lose that extra weight, and this is the only thing that worked. Keep

> us posted!

>

> Jana

> C1W9D3

Great advice, Jana

Serenity

[Guest guest]

astramari02 wrote:

> The only thing that jumps out at me are those advantedge bars. I

> know people have had better success without them. Also, you may want

> to revisit the portions. There seems to be alot of confusion over

> palm and fist sizes. Some people include their fingers, which is

> just too much. Some people are using water displacement and coming

> up with 1 cup for carbs. I think that's normally too much. If you

> have 200lbs to lose, it's fine. But trying to tweak from a size 10

> to a size 8, may take less food than that.

>

> Astra

I have way less that 200 pounds to lose and using my fingers is working for

me

Serenity

[Guest guest]

It may very well be working, but there may come a time when you have

to lower that when you get closer to your goal. BTW, never meant to

insinuate that YOU had 200lbs to lose, just using that number as an

example.

I still don't think a palm portion size includes the fingers, but I

don't like portion sizes anyway!!;-)

Astra

>

> > The only thing that jumps out at me are those advantedge bars. I

> > know people have had better success without them. Also, you may

want

> > to revisit the portions. There seems to be alot of confusion over

> > palm and fist sizes. Some people include their fingers, which is

> > just too much. Some people are using water displacement and

coming

> > up with 1 cup for carbs. I think that's normally too much. If

you

> > have 200lbs to lose, it's fine. But trying to tweak from a size

10

> > to a size 8, may take less food than that.

> >

> > Astra

>

> I have way less that 200 pounds to lose and using my fingers is

working for

> me

> Serenity

[Guest guest]

astramari02 wrote:

> It may very well be working, but there may come a time when you have

> to lower that when you get closer to your goal. BTW, never meant to

> insinuate that YOU had 200lbs to lose, just using that number as an

> example.

>

> I still don't think a palm portion size includes the fingers, but I

> don't like portion sizes anyway!!;-)

>

> Astra

*grin* And I think you're a freak for counting calories.. but I still like

ya

Serenity (who figures her hand will get smaller by the time it matter.

Hehe.)

[Guest guest]

Hah! I am a freak!!! LOL about your hand getting smaller...it's a

good thing I don't have to use my ass as a portion size!!!

Astra

> *grin* And I think you're a freak for counting calories.. but I

still like

> ya

> Serenity (who figures her hand will get smaller by the time it

matter.

> Hehe.)

[Guest guest]

It doesn't appear that the meals are the problem with the exception

of the Advantedge bar that was mentioned in an earlier post.

Maybe the workout portion should be revisited now. Do you skip any?

Are you lifting heavy enough weight and really being honest with

yourself about hitting the outer limits of your ability? When you

are done working out do you feel that you have made the most of the

time spent or do you walk away feeling that you " didn't do well? " Are

you doing cardio beyond the point where you can talk at the same

time. If you can still talk then it probably is not intense enough to

burn that stubborn 10 pounds.

This is going to sound totally off the wall but are you getting

enough fat? Fatty acids ingested are necessary for the release of an

enzyme responsible for the mobilization of stored fat(Lipase might be

the name of the enzyme--I'm no biochemist but have read a lot about

it). This reportedly is responsible for releasing free fatty acids

from the adipose tissue(fat) into the bloodstream which can be used

as energy by peripheral tissues(such as muscles). In short this takes

fat from one's thighs, places it in the bloodstream where an upcoming

intense cardio session will burn it off as energy providing your

cardio is done prior to eating. Carbs and insulin will derail this

process so that's why it is so important to do cardio before eating

if major fatloss is desired.

Didn't mean to get off on all that but sometimes if you can visualize

what happens it is easier to make it happen. Hope this helps. Don't

give up, your BFL journey is really just beginning.

Stasia

P.S. Most of the commercial weight loss programs are designed to

separate you from your money, not your weight, at least not long term.

[Guest guest]

astramari02 wrote:

> Hah! I am a freak!!! LOL about your hand getting smaller...it's a

> good thing I don't have to use my ass as a portion size!!!

>

> Astra

*grin* But by the end you'd be eating nothing Since we'll all have no

ass once we reach our goals.. right?

On the ass topic. We just got our new Frederick's of Hollywood catalogue.

They've got these ass padding things!! Like I need to -add- anything to my

already substantial butt. What's up with that?!

Serenity

[Guest guest]

>

> > On the ass topic. We just got our new Frederick's of Hollywood

catalogue.

> They've got these ass padding things!! Like I need to -add-

anything to my

> already substantial butt. What's up with that?!

> Serenity

I've seen those things and thought the same thing! One thing I'll

always have is a butt! Good thing though, hubby loves it He

keeps making me promise if I lose weight I won't lose my butt!

Colleen

[Guest guest]

colleenp99 wrote:

>

> >

> > > On the ass topic. We just got our new Frederick's of Hollywood

> catalogue.

> > They've got these ass padding things!! Like I need to -add-

> anything to my

> > already substantial butt. What's up with that?!

> > Serenity

>

> I've seen those things and thought the same thing! One thing I'll

> always have is a butt! Good thing though, hubby loves it He

> keeps making me promise if I lose weight I won't lose my butt!

>

> Colleen

Well.. if you do lose your butt.. you can just go to Fredericks.com and

buy one. *giggle*

I have lost some butt weight.. it's amazing

Serenity (who will always have ample butt and boobs. No worries!)

[Guest guest]

--- In @y..., " s_bachrach " <s_bachrach@y...>

Thanks for all that info Stasia!! I work my ass off literally. I

worked out w/my bf on Mondaty to ensure that all is going correctly.

He touched up my form a bit but, reassured me that it's all right. I

am going until failure each time.I am killing myself in each workout.

That's the frustrating part of it. I am always sore, and hungry but I

can't wear a size 8. I pass by skinny girls eating fries, and I feel

like screaming!!!!! I also add a tablespoon of olive oil and flax a

day...So I am getting in my EFA's. Thanks for your help. You know I

don't really want to give up. I just needed some whining time, and a

little extra advice and suport!

[Guest guest]

Hey Joanne, You may not be a smaller size but I bet your overall

appearance has improved. Did you check the body fat calculator?

Probably making changes that don't effect your dress size. HAng in

there, Yeta