Re: help I'm expanding

[Guest guest]

That is something I was wondering about too. I tried on a silk blouse Saturday

in the size I normally wear and the arms were too tight. Then my husband told

me he thought my arms were bigger. That really got the fear factor going. I

already had great bicep definition, it is the triceps that need work. And I

want that flab gone. I know women can't BULK up but I'm scared my arms are

gonna be huge and I won't be able to wear some of my blouses.

Noelle

help I'm expanding

Help! Gaining muscle has never been a problem for me and since I used

to swim butterfly and back competitively I have a lot of shoulder and

back muscle screaming back to life under the fat. Don't get me wrong

the feeling of power and strength is wonderful but I am thinking I

should maybe modify the eating, cut more carbs. Long term I know I'll

lose the fat but short term I'm going to have to buy bigger bras to

fit around my expanding chest and go to tank tops for my shoulders

and arms. Hey how do you buff ladies find clothes to fit those great

muscles?

[Guest guest]

What week are you in? How much fat do you need to loose? Many women

get freaked about some muscle gain in the first four weeks, because

the surface fat is not decreesing, so they feel like parts of their

bodies are getting bigger. Most often what is happening is that, as

you said, the muscle is growing on arms or legs, and fat is burning

from areas that either don't show (around the organs, actually in the

muscles) or parts of your body that you have not noticed (perhaps

your arms are a little bigger, but your thighs are a little

smaller).

If you are eating correctly this will even out. Do you write down

what you eat every day? If so, look it over to be absolutely sure

that you are not eating too much and that your carb choices are the

best they can be.

Also, take a look at your cardio. Are you realy hitting your 10s?

Minute 19 should feel like the longest minute of your life, like it

will never end, and you'll never be able to keep going.

If your food is in line, rather than cutting down on nutrition I'd

suggest adding one more cardio day a week. Or, you could just be

patient, because obviously the program is working for you, and soon

that extra muscle is going to pay off in higher metabolic rates,

which will burn the fat faster.

We are so used to 'weight loss programs', that the way this 'fitness

program' works on our bodies is new and surprising. If you have to,

buy a new bra, but I would not risk that beautiful new muscle you are

building. Nothing is sexier than a beautifully muscled back.

Alys

[Guest guest]

I'm at the end of week three. I have lost one pound and 1/2 an inch from my

waist. Which, I think is pretty good. At least I have seen something.

I'm eating clean. Yesterday was the best day of all, I really hit my menu on

the head and am going to try to do every day like yesterday.

I'm glad you mentioned that about the cardio, because I was thinking about

adding an extra one in. I noticed that when I do UBW my heart rate is not as

high as when I do LB. I feel like maybe I should add a mini cardio on UBW days

just to get my heart rate up a little. Today, when working my triceps, I

definitely hit my 10's. I was trembling on the lying dumbbell ext's and could

hardly do the last set.

What do you think about adding the mini cardio?

Noelle

Re: help I'm expanding

What week are you in? How much fat do you need to loose? Many women

get freaked about some muscle gain in the first four weeks, because

the surface fat is not decreesing, so they feel like parts of their

bodies are getting bigger. Most often what is happening is that, as

you said, the muscle is growing on arms or legs, and fat is burning

from areas that either don't show (around the organs, actually in the

muscles) or parts of your body that you have not noticed (perhaps

your arms are a little bigger, but your thighs are a little

smaller).

If you are eating correctly this will even out. Do you write down

what you eat every day? If so, look it over to be absolutely sure

that you are not eating too much and that your carb choices are the

best they can be.

Also, take a look at your cardio. Are you realy hitting your 10s?

Minute 19 should feel like the longest minute of your life, like it

will never end, and you'll never be able to keep going.

If your food is in line, rather than cutting down on nutrition I'd

suggest adding one more cardio day a week. Or, you could just be

patient, because obviously the program is working for you, and soon

that extra muscle is going to pay off in higher metabolic rates,

which will burn the fat faster.

We are so used to 'weight loss programs', that the way this 'fitness

program' works on our bodies is new and surprising. If you have to,

buy a new bra, but I would not risk that beautiful new muscle you are

building. Nothing is sexier than a beautifully muscled back.

Alys

[Guest guest]

Boy, you are only on week three, and you have already lost an inch

from your waist? I really want to tell you not to change anything.

You can't dictate where the fat comes off of, apparently for you it

is coming off the waist first. The fat is comming off, and in time

(probably a really short time) it will start to go from your arms as

well.

I really wouldn't munky with a system that is working, were I you. If

you feel like you really HAVE to add something, I'd say an extra

cardio on your free day would be the least harmful.

It sounds like you are used to monitoring everything very carefully,

which works for some people, but most can't keep it up. Once the

close monitoring slips feelings of failure creep in. Could lead to

back-sliding. The goal of this program is for it all to become a

natural part of your life. You don't stress over how you brush your

teeth, do you? Then don't stress about this. I'm sure others will

have differing opinions, but I'll bet that must of us will encourage

you to stick with what you are doing, with out change. It is working,

why change it?

Alys

[Guest guest]

Well said Alys!

Rita

Re: help I'm expanding

Boy, you are only on week three, and you have already lost an inch

from your waist? I really want to tell you not to change anything.

You can't dictate where the fat comes off of, apparently for you it

is coming off the waist first. The fat is comming off, and in time

(probably a really short time) it will start to go from your arms as

well.

I really wouldn't munky with a system that is working, were I you. If

you feel like you really HAVE to add something, I'd say an extra

cardio on your free day would be the least harmful.

It sounds like you are used to monitoring everything very carefully,

which works for some people, but most can't keep it up. Once the

close monitoring slips feelings of failure creep in. Could lead to

back-sliding. The goal of this program is for it all to become a

natural part of your life. You don't stress over how you brush your

teeth, do you? Then don't stress about this. I'm sure others will

have differing opinions, but I'll bet that must of us will encourage

you to stick with what you are doing, with out change. It is working,

why change it?

Alys

[Guest guest]

> Help! Gaining muscle has never been a problem for me and since I

used

> to swim butterfly and back competitively I have a lot of shoulder

and

> back muscle screaming back to life under the fat.

My sister swam butterfly for just a few years and I am amazed at how

easy that muscle comes right bvck when she starts working out. For

me, my problem is quads. I played competitive soccer until I was 18

and my legs are bigger than my pant size!! For clothes, I just keep

shoping around, trying different brands and styles until I find

something that fits decently. Today I have on lowrise capris from the

gap, loose in the waist, baggy in the front area, but tight on the

thighs But the good news is that last week they were snug

everywhere

Colleen

[Guest guest]

Thanks, I'll take your advice and maybe just do a cardio on a free day when I

feel like it. It does seem to be going really well and someone said yesterday, I

think it was Serenity that they don't look at this as just 12 weeks, it's a way

of life. That is how I am approaching it too.

Thanks!

Noelle

Re: help I'm expanding

Boy, you are only on week three, and you have already lost an inch

from your waist? I really want to tell you not to change anything.

You can't dictate where the fat comes off of, apparently for you it

is coming off the waist first. The fat is comming off, and in time

(probably a really short time) it will start to go from your arms as

well.

I really wouldn't munky with a system that is working, were I you. If

you feel like you really HAVE to add something, I'd say an extra

cardio on your free day would be the least harmful.

It sounds like you are used to monitoring everything very carefully,

which works for some people, but most can't keep it up. Once the

close monitoring slips feelings of failure creep in. Could lead to

back-sliding. The goal of this program is for it all to become a

natural part of your life. You don't stress over how you brush your

teeth, do you? Then don't stress about this. I'm sure others will

have differing opinions, but I'll bet that must of us will encourage

you to stick with what you are doing, with out change. It is working,

why change it?

Alys

[Guest guest]

Colleen:

Isn't it GREAT when you can fit into something you couldn't a week ago. I have

an Ann silk dress in a size 4 that I bought to wear to my wedding

rehearsal supper last year. This was a time when I was abusing laxatives,

taking diet pills and purging in order to maintain my weight to wear my wedding

dress.

Anyway, my goal is to wear that dress w/out a girdle or killing myself.

I try it on every couple of weeks. I know I'm going to get back in it one of

these days!

Noelle

Re: help I'm expanding

> Help! Gaining muscle has never been a problem for me and since I

used

> to swim butterfly and back competitively I have a lot of shoulder

and

> back muscle screaming back to life under the fat.

My sister swam butterfly for just a few years and I am amazed at how

easy that muscle comes right bvck when she starts working out. For

me, my problem is quads. I played competitive soccer until I was 18

and my legs are bigger than my pant size!! For clothes, I just keep

shoping around, trying different brands and styles until I find

something that fits decently. Today I have on lowrise capris from the

gap, loose in the waist, baggy in the front area, but tight on the

thighs But the good news is that last week they were snug

everywhere

Colleen

[Guest guest]

Hi

I am experiencing the same problem. Ever since I started doing ab work the

right way I have build up a lot of muscle around my waist and my skirts and

pants are tighter around the waist than they used to be. My waist looks

" thicker " but when i squeeze my side with my hands it feels hard, not soft

like fat is.

I have cut down on the amount of ab work I am doing to hopefully " slim down "

and am no longer doing weighted ab exercises. I find it really frustrating

because I am getting bigger even if I am firmer.

[Guest guest]

Noelle wrote:

> Thanks, I'll take your advice and maybe just do a cardio on a free day when I

feel like it. It does seem to be going really well and someone said yesterday, I

think it was Serenity that they don't look at this as just 12 weeks, it's a way

of life. That is how I am approaching it too.

> Thanks!

> Noelle

Woowoo

Serenity

[Guest guest]

Serenity:

What does Woowoo mean? Good or bad??

Noelle

Re: Re: help I'm expanding

Noelle wrote:

> Thanks, I'll take your advice and maybe just do a cardio on a free day when

I feel like it. It does seem to be going really well and someone said yesterday,

I think it was Serenity that they don't look at this as just 12 weeks, it's a

way of life. That is how I am approaching it too.

> Thanks!

> Noelle

Woowoo

Serenity

[Guest guest]

Noelle wrote:

> Serenity:

> What does Woowoo mean? Good or bad??

> Noelle

Um.. good You know.. Woowoo!!! or Woohooo!!

Serenity

[Guest guest]

Hey Alys I am only at the end of my first week, but I have been

lifting (low weight high rep, DID NOT WORK)and doing intense cardio

for about 6 months, so the big difference for me is the eating plan.

Of course the dumbbell exercises target the muscle groups much better

than my old workout, I'm not sure how much fat I need to lose, I

weigh 45lbs more than I did in my 20's when I was pretty lean, but I

always maintained that weight through starvation. I am going over my

eating and I think I may not have enough protein vs carbs so I am

looking for lower carb options to keep the balance. But the muscle is

really building up from lat-pulls when I work for that " 10 " I

discovered I could lift much more than before. I think I am going to

count my blessings that I am making progress and double check my

diet. Thanks for reality check, I needed that, Yeta

@y..., alysd38 <no_reply@y...> wrote:

> What week are you in? How much fat do you need to loose? Many

women

> get freaked about some muscle gain in the first four weeks, because

> the surface fat is not decreesing, so they feel like parts of their

> bodies are getting bigger. Most often what is happening is that,

as

> you said, the muscle is growing on arms or legs, and fat is burning

> from areas that either don't show (around the organs, actually in

the

> muscles) or parts of your body that you have not noticed (perhaps

> your arms are a little bigger, but your thighs are a little

> smaller).

>

> If you are eating correctly this will even out. Do you write down

> what you eat every day? If so, look it over to be absolutely sure

> that you are not eating too much and that your carb choices are the

> best they can be.

>

> Also, take a look at your cardio. Are you realy hitting your 10s?

> Minute 19 should feel like the longest minute of your life, like it

> will never end, and you'll never be able to keep going.

>

> If your food is in line, rather than cutting down on nutrition I'd

> suggest adding one more cardio day a week. Or, you could just be

> patient, because obviously the program is working for you, and soon

> that extra muscle is going to pay off in higher metabolic rates,

> which will burn the fat faster.

>

> We are so used to 'weight loss programs', that the way

this 'fitness

> program' works on our bodies is new and surprising. If you have

to,

> buy a new bra, but I would not risk that beautiful new muscle you

are

> building. Nothing is sexier than a beautifully muscled back.

>

> Alys

[Guest guest]

> Hey Alys I am only at the end of my first week, but I have been

> lifting (low weight high rep, DID NOT WORK)and doing intense cardio

> for about 6 months, so the big difference for me is the eating

plan.

> Of course the dumbbell exercises target the muscle groups much

better

> than my old workout, I'm not sure how much fat I need to lose, I

> weigh 45lbs more than I did in my 20's when I was pretty lean, but

I

> always maintained that weight through starvation. I am going over

my

> eating and I think I may not have enough protein vs carbs so I am

> looking for lower carb options to keep the balance. But the muscle

is

> really building up from lat-pulls when I work for that " 10 " I

> discovered I could lift much more than before.

Hey, me too!! I was doing videos with lower weights, high reps and

wasn't seeing the results I wanted. I'm also noticing a definite

strength increase!!

Colleen

[Guest guest]

> > What week are you in? How much fat do you need to loose? Many

> women

> > get freaked about some muscle gain in the first four weeks,

because

> > the surface fat is not decreesing, so they feel like parts of

their

> > bodies are getting bigger. Most often what is happening is that,

> as

> > you said, the muscle is growing on arms or legs, and fat is

burning

> > from areas that either don't show (around the organs, actually in

> the

> > muscles) or parts of your body that you have not noticed (perhaps

> > your arms are a little bigger, but your thighs are a little

> > smaller).

> >

> > If you are eating correctly this will even out. Do you write

down

> > what you eat every day? If so, look it over to be absolutely

sure

> > that you are not eating too much and that your carb choices are

the

> > best they can be.

> >

> > Also, take a look at your cardio. Are you realy hitting your

10s?

> > Minute 19 should feel like the longest minute of your life, like

it

> > will never end, and you'll never be able to keep going.

> >

> > If your food is in line, rather than cutting down on nutrition

I'd

> > suggest adding one more cardio day a week. Or, you could just be

> > patient, because obviously the program is working for you, and

soon

> > that extra muscle is going to pay off in higher metabolic rates,

> > which will burn the fat faster.

> >

> > We are so used to 'weight loss programs', that the way

> this 'fitness

> > program' works on our bodies is new and surprising. If you have

> to,

> > buy a new bra, but I would not risk that beautiful new muscle you

> are

> > building. Nothing is sexier than a beautifully muscled back.

> >

> > Alys

[Guest guest]

Hey Colleen isn't it a great feeling!!!! Finally I feel like I am

getting a decent workout, I was so sure my answer was low weights

high reps, but I have doubled my high points on some weights

already. Are you doing less for your quads? Mine are already big

from that pesky butterfly(10 years of fly and 14 of back), I have my

kids in TaeKwonDo working all their muscle groups so they don't get

uneven bodies. My legs are still a little sore but today I got back

to my stair climbing for cardio so I am almost recovered, did yours

recover quickly from that LBWO?-

>

> Hey, me too!! I was doing videos with lower weights, high reps and

> wasn't seeing the results I wanted. I'm also noticing a definite

> strength increase!!

>

> Colleen

[Guest guest]

....... My legs are still a little sore but today I got back

> to my stair climbing for cardio so I am almost recovered, did yours

> recover quickly from that LBWO?-

>

> >

I almost spit my water out reading that...QUICKLY??? Oh my gosh, I'm

still recovering!!! And I only used 5, 8 and 10 lb dumbbells! The

low weight, high rep workouts did at lesat get me back into working

out. I took about 2 years off due to carpal tunnel and my own

personal depression and when I started again I could barely do

anything with 3 lb weights! But overall, it didn't do much for

building muscle or sculpting.

I work my quads the same because I actually like the musclar look. I

know some people don't prefer it, but it is my " ideal " look if I

could pick one.

Colleen

PS I don't think I could do stairclimbing yet! I did an interval

training step tape and still felt it when I did squats during the

warmup!

[Guest guest]

I guess we are starting from different places, I've been using 15lb

dumbells for my LBWO, didn't seem heavy when I started but I think

they gained as I went. Not sure if I should drop back down next LWBO

don't want another day of walking like enstein and crying on the

stairs. I guess we learn as we go. My main goal is to drop my extra

fat the muscles are just a bonus at this point. Although I would like

to get back to my college form when I used to bench press my weight,

of course I was 20 years younger and 45lbs lighter, some day, Yeta---

<colleen_meacham@h...> wrote:

> > >

>

> I almost spit my water out reading that...QUICKLY??? Oh my gosh,

I'm

> still recovering!!! And I only used 5, 8 and 10 lb dumbbells! The

> low weight, high rep workouts did at lesat get me back into working

> out. I took about 2 years off due to carpal tunnel and my own

> personal depression and when I started again I could barely do

> anything with 3 lb weights! But overall, it didn't do much for

> building muscle or sculpting.

>

> I work my quads the same because I actually like the musclar look.

I

> know some people don't prefer it, but it is my " ideal " look if I

> could pick one.

>

> Colleen

>

> PS I don't think I could do stairclimbing yet! I did an interval

> training step tape and still felt it when I did squats during the

> warmup!

[Guest guest]

Yep ... I do the same thing with my stuff Noelle and yesterday I hit paydirt!

Found a great pair of capris that I finally got into! WAHOO!!!

Rita

Re: help I'm expanding

> Help! Gaining muscle has never been a problem for me and since I

used

> to swim butterfly and back competitively I have a lot of shoulder

and

> back muscle screaming back to life under the fat.

My sister swam butterfly for just a few years and I am amazed at how

easy that muscle comes right bvck when she starts working out. For

me, my problem is quads. I played competitive soccer until I was 18

and my legs are bigger than my pant size!! For clothes, I just keep

shoping around, trying different brands and styles until I find

something that fits decently. Today I have on lowrise capris from the

gap, loose in the waist, baggy in the front area, but tight on the

thighs But the good news is that last week they were snug

everywhere

Colleen

[Guest guest]

CONGRATS! Rita-I'll let you know when I get into my Ann , heck, maybe I'll

post a pic!

Noelle

Re: help I'm expanding

> Help! Gaining muscle has never been a problem for me and since I

used

> to swim butterfly and back competitively I have a lot of shoulder

and

> back muscle screaming back to life under the fat.

My sister swam butterfly for just a few years and I am amazed at how

easy that muscle comes right bvck when she starts working out. For

me, my problem is quads. I played competitive soccer until I was 18

and my legs are bigger than my pant size!! For clothes, I just keep

shoping around, trying different brands and styles until I find

something that fits decently. Today I have on lowrise capris from the

gap, loose in the waist, baggy in the front area, but tight on the

thighs But the good news is that last week they were snug

everywhere

Colleen

[Guest guest]

Cool, Noelle! Don't forget now!

Rita

Re: help I'm expanding

> Help! Gaining muscle has never been a problem for me and since I

used

> to swim butterfly and back competitively I have a lot of shoulder

and

> back muscle screaming back to life under the fat.

My sister swam butterfly for just a few years and I am amazed at how

easy that muscle comes right bvck when she starts working out. For

me, my problem is quads. I played competitive soccer until I was 18

and my legs are bigger than my pant size!! For clothes, I just keep

shoping around, trying different brands and styles until I find

something that fits decently. Today I have on lowrise capris from the

gap, loose in the waist, baggy in the front area, but tight on the

thighs But the good news is that last week they were snug

everywhere

Colleen

[Guest guest]

> Hi

> I am experiencing the same problem. Ever since I started doing ab

work the

> right way I have build up a lot of muscle around my waist and my

skirts and

> pants are tighter around the waist than they used to be. My waist

looks

> " thicker " but when i squeeze my side with my hands it feels hard,

not soft

> like fat is.

> I have cut down on the amount of ab work I am doing to

hopefully " slim down "

> and am no longer doing weighted ab exercises. I find it really

frustrating

> because I am getting bigger even if I am firmer.

>

I have a problem when I do ab weighted exercises of kind of pushing

my stomach out rather than contracting my abs and have finally given

up on them. I found, too, that my stomach although harder, seemed to

expand.

Colleen

[Guest guest]

I pretty much have to like muscular legs, thats just the way its

going to be, there are worse things.

> ...... My legs are still a little sore but today I got back

> > to my stair climbing for cardio so I am almost recovered, did

yours

> > recover quickly from that LBWO?-

> >

> > >

>

> I almost spit my water out reading that...QUICKLY??? Oh my gosh,

I'm

> still recovering!!! And I only used 5, 8 and 10 lb dumbbells!

The

> low weight, high rep workouts did at lesat get me back into

working

> out. I took about 2 years off due to carpal tunnel and my own

> personal depression and when I started again I could barely do

> anything with 3 lb weights! But overall, it didn't do much for

> building muscle or sculpting.

>

> I work my quads the same because I actually like the musclar look.

I

> know some people don't prefer it, but it is my " ideal " look if I

> could pick one.

>

> Colleen

>

> PS I don't think I could do stairclimbing yet! I did an interval

> training step tape and still felt it when I did squats during the

> warmup!

[Guest guest]

Muscular legs really are awesome. Even if they're big, the goal is

for them not to jiggle. My father in law used to say " it has to be

jello 'cause jam don't shake like that " when referring to thigh fat

deposits. No one should despair large thighs if they are muscular.

Stasia