Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 Thanks for your kind words. From where I started(very fat 120 lbs) there's living proof that ANYONE can succeed at BFL. It has been very difficult getting to this point and really it's still a work in progress. The key to abs is to eat clean and get rid of as much bodyfat as possible. The muscles have to be worked way past one's perceived 10. They recover quickly so I have to hit them every other day and do them first while I'm fresh. I don't use weights with them. Decline bench 3 sets of 12(30 second recovery between) then turn around and do 3 sets of 15 reverse crunches on same bench. Sometimes I'll go to the power rack and do hanging knee ups for 3 sets to failure, whatever that is. Usually it's my grip that fails first. I never do more than 20 minutes of hard cardio ever and at most 3-4 times a week, usually less. If I'm in fatburning mode I'll do cardio every day but still no more than 20 minutes. I would not sacrifice a good weight workout for the sake of cardio. Cardio comes at the end of the weight workout. The notion here is that there's probably enough glycogen on board to fuel the weight workout(very intense) and by the time it's over I'm fairly glycogen depleted so then the cardio is really effective at fatburning. Can't do cardio after an LB workout. On those days do about 7 or 8 minutes of powerwalking on treadmill before LB to warm legs up. Nutrition wise, I keep thinking I've increased protein in order to deal with this but every time I plug it into Fitday the percentages of protein and carbs come out about equal. So it's pretty much been BFL principles since day 1. I weigh approx 120 and consume about 150 grams of protein per day average. I'll decrease carbs by about a third if I'm trying to burn fat. Thanks again for your comments. Stasia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 Stasia, God, I wish I were a " fat " 120 right now. : ) Thank you for the workout advice. Even after three BFL challenges, I still have a hard time letting go of the notion that more cardio is better, but obviously less cardio works for you. I know that eating clean is the key. That's what I 'm focusing on the most right now. Thanks again. Dani > Thanks for your kind words. From where I started(very fat 120 lbs) > there's living proof that ANYONE can succeed at BFL. It has been very > difficult getting to this point and really it's still a work in > progress. The key to abs is to eat clean and get rid of as much > bodyfat as possible. The muscles have to be worked way past one's > perceived 10. They recover quickly so I have to hit them every other > day and do them first while I'm fresh. I don't use weights with them. > Decline bench 3 sets of 12(30 second recovery between) then turn > around and do 3 sets of 15 reverse crunches on same bench. Sometimes > I'll go to the power rack and do hanging knee ups for 3 sets to > failure, whatever that is. Usually it's my grip that fails first. > > I never do more than 20 minutes of hard cardio ever and at most 3-4 > times a week, usually less. If I'm in fatburning mode I'll do cardio > every day but still no more than 20 minutes. I would not sacrifice a > good weight workout for the sake of cardio. Cardio comes at the end > of the weight workout. The notion here is that there's probably > enough glycogen on board to fuel the weight workout(very intense) and > by the time it's over I'm fairly glycogen depleted so then the cardio > is really effective at fatburning. Can't do cardio after an LB > workout. On those days do about 7 or 8 minutes of powerwalking on > treadmill before LB to warm legs up. > > Nutrition wise, I keep thinking I've increased protein in order to > deal with this but every time I plug it into Fitday the percentages > of protein and carbs come out about equal. So it's pretty much been > BFL principles since day 1. I weigh approx 120 and consume about 150 > grams of protein per day average. I'll decrease carbs by about a > third if I'm trying to burn fat. > > > Thanks again for your comments. > > Stasia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 Hi Dani, thanks again. You wrote: " God, I wish I were a " fat " 120 right now. : ) " It is all in degrees. Believe me I felt just as bad as a fat 120(no need for quotation marks, I was fat!) as someone else might a fat 250. General dissatisfaction with one's body is a fairly universal feeling whether a fat 120 or 250. If the owner of that body is not happy with it it doesn't matter what the scale says. Another word about cardio. If you have a considerable amount of fat percentage yet to lose then more might be better. I know I did lots of it before Jan 1st(cost me a lot of muscle but I was really lean)so more IS better for fatburning. My cardio routine now is designed only to keep the fat storage at bay while preserving muscle. The pro bodybuilders often do cardio twice a day when they're cutting fat, and for 45 minutes at a time even. Keep to the cardio routine you are used to doing until you reach your desired fat level. I didn't mean to confuse. Stasia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 Good advice Stasia ... also gives me assurance that what I'm doing now is right. Rita Re: Stasia's pics--Dani Hi Dani, thanks again. You wrote: " God, I wish I were a " fat " 120 right now. : ) " It is all in degrees. Believe me I felt just as bad as a fat 120(no need for quotation marks, I was fat!) as someone else might a fat 250. General dissatisfaction with one's body is a fairly universal feeling whether a fat 120 or 250. If the owner of that body is not happy with it it doesn't matter what the scale says. Another word about cardio. If you have a considerable amount of fat percentage yet to lose then more might be better. I know I did lots of it before Jan 1st(cost me a lot of muscle but I was really lean)so more IS better for fatburning. My cardio routine now is designed only to keep the fat storage at bay while preserving muscle. The pro bodybuilders often do cardio twice a day when they're cutting fat, and for 45 minutes at a time even. Keep to the cardio routine you are used to doing until you reach your desired fat level. I didn't mean to confuse. Stasia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 Hi, I'm a newbie C4W3D5 and have been reading about Stasia's pic's. Can someone tell me Stasia's address so I can view them as well also maybe get some pointers on ab workouts? Re: Re: Stasia's pics--Dani Good advice Stasia ... also gives me assurance that what I'm doing now is right. Rita Re: Stasia's pics--Dani Hi Dani, thanks again. You wrote: " God, I wish I were a " fat " 120 right now. : ) " It is all in degrees. Believe me I felt just as bad as a fat 120(no need for quotation marks, I was fat!) as someone else might a fat 250. General dissatisfaction with one's body is a fairly universal feeling whether a fat 120 or 250. If the owner of that body is not happy with it it doesn't matter what the scale says. Another word about cardio. If you have a considerable amount of fat percentage yet to lose then more might be better. I know I did lots of it before Jan 1st(cost me a lot of muscle but I was really lean)so more IS better for fatburning. My cardio routine now is designed only to keep the fat storage at bay while preserving muscle. The pro bodybuilders often do cardio twice a day when they're cutting fat, and for 45 minutes at a time even. Keep to the cardio routine you are used to doing until you reach your desired fat level. I didn't mean to confuse. Stasia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 Thanks, Stasia, I appreciate the clarification. That does make perfect sense to me. Last time I lost the weight, I did HIIT for 30 minutes 3x/wk and steady state cardio for 60-90 minutes 3-4 days a week. If it was my weight training day, I would do weights first, then cardio. Sometimes I would add an extra cardio session at night. I found that for me, running was especially effective at burning fat, so I would usually run for 4-6 miles, then jump on the stairmaster, Precor or recumbent bike. I got really lean, and I felt good, so that's what I'm doing now. My only problem is the eating clean. I love working out. Thank you again. Dani " God, I wish I were a " fat " 120 > right now. : ) " > > It is all in degrees. Believe me I felt just as bad as a fat 120(no > need for quotation marks, I was fat!) as someone else might a fat > 250. General dissatisfaction with one's body is a fairly universal > feeling whether a fat 120 or 250. If the owner of that body is not > happy with it it doesn't matter what the scale says. > > Another word about cardio. If you have a considerable amount of fat > percentage yet to lose then more might be better. I know I did lots > of it before Jan 1st(cost me a lot of muscle but I was really lean) so > more IS better for fatburning. My cardio routine now is designed only > to keep the fat storage at bay while preserving muscle. The pro > bodybuilders often do cardio twice a day when they're cutting fat, > and for 45 minutes at a time even. > > Keep to the cardio routine you are used to doing until you reach your > desired fat level. I didn't mean to confuse. > > Stasia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 WOW Dani! That's a lot! I don't know if I could do that much, but I'm gonna give it a try. Rita Re: Stasia's pics--Dani Thanks, Stasia, I appreciate the clarification. That does make perfect sense to me. Last time I lost the weight, I did HIIT for 30 minutes 3x/wk and steady state cardio for 60-90 minutes 3-4 days a week. If it was my weight training day, I would do weights first, then cardio. Sometimes I would add an extra cardio session at night. I found that for me, running was especially effective at burning fat, so I would usually run for 4-6 miles, then jump on the stairmaster, Precor or recumbent bike. I got really lean, and I felt good, so that's what I'm doing now. My only problem is the eating clean. I love working out. Thank you again. Dani " God, I wish I were a " fat " 120 > right now. : ) " > > It is all in degrees. Believe me I felt just as bad as a fat 120(no > need for quotation marks, I was fat!) as someone else might a fat > 250. General dissatisfaction with one's body is a fairly universal > feeling whether a fat 120 or 250. If the owner of that body is not > happy with it it doesn't matter what the scale says. > > Another word about cardio. If you have a considerable amount of fat > percentage yet to lose then more might be better. I know I did lots > of it before Jan 1st(cost me a lot of muscle but I was really lean) so > more IS better for fatburning. My cardio routine now is designed only > to keep the fat storage at bay while preserving muscle. The pro > bodybuilders often do cardio twice a day when they're cutting fat, > and for 45 minutes at a time even. > > Keep to the cardio routine you are used to doing until you reach your > desired fat level. I didn't mean to confuse. > > Stasia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 The pics are in group photo folder " A Work in Progress. " There's also some in briefcase on my profile. They might be the same ones, I can't remember. Thanks for your interest. The photos are getting dated now but no new ones are on the horizon unless I can get hubby to do them and he's lukewarm about it at best. Guess I could spring for a pro but I'd have to spring for one of those Fantasy Tans first Stasia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 That's nothing compared to what I used to do pre BFL from the time I was 17 to the time I was 21. I'm a recovering cardio junkie. I would do 90-120 minutes of pretty intense cardio every day of the week. Every day! I was running 60-70 miles a week. I was also not doing any weights, because I didn't want to get " bulky, " and I was eating about 800 cals a day. I looked gaunt. Then my body just couldn't handle the starvation mode anymore, so I gained almost 50 pounds, got up to 165 and stayed there until I was 25 and discovered BFL. That's when I lost 40 pounds and put on sleek muscle. That's the look I want to have again. " God, I wish I were a " fat " 120 > > right now. : ) " > > > > It is all in degrees. Believe me I felt just as bad as a fat 120 (no > > need for quotation marks, I was fat!) as someone else might a fat > > 250. General dissatisfaction with one's body is a fairly universal > > feeling whether a fat 120 or 250. If the owner of that body is not > > happy with it it doesn't matter what the scale says. > > > > Another word about cardio. If you have a considerable amount of > fat > > percentage yet to lose then more might be better. I know I did lots > > of it before Jan 1st(cost me a lot of muscle but I was really lean) > so > > more IS better for fatburning. My cardio routine now is designed > only > > to keep the fat storage at bay while preserving muscle. The pro > > bodybuilders often do cardio twice a day when they're cutting fat, > > and for 45 minutes at a time even. > > > > Keep to the cardio routine you are used to doing until you reach > your > > desired fat level. I didn't mean to confuse. > > > > Stasia > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 And you WILL ... you know you can do it. Put the weight gain that you didn't want behind you and lets go from there! WOW that was a LOT of cardio! Very excessive. Glad you found BFL. Rita Re: Stasia's pics--Dani That's nothing compared to what I used to do pre BFL from the time I was 17 to the time I was 21. I'm a recovering cardio junkie. I would do 90-120 minutes of pretty intense cardio every day of the week. Every day! I was running 60-70 miles a week. I was also not doing any weights, because I didn't want to get " bulky, " and I was eating about 800 cals a day. I looked gaunt. Then my body just couldn't handle the starvation mode anymore, so I gained almost 50 pounds, got up to 165 and stayed there until I was 25 and discovered BFL. That's when I lost 40 pounds and put on sleek muscle. That's the look I want to have again. " God, I wish I were a " fat " 120 > > right now. : ) " > > > > It is all in degrees. Believe me I felt just as bad as a fat 120 (no > > need for quotation marks, I was fat!) as someone else might a fat > > 250. General dissatisfaction with one's body is a fairly universal > > feeling whether a fat 120 or 250. If the owner of that body is not > > happy with it it doesn't matter what the scale says. > > > > Another word about cardio. If you have a considerable amount of > fat > > percentage yet to lose then more might be better. I know I did lots > > of it before Jan 1st(cost me a lot of muscle but I was really lean) > so > > more IS better for fatburning. My cardio routine now is designed > only > > to keep the fat storage at bay while preserving muscle. The pro > > bodybuilders often do cardio twice a day when they're cutting fat, > > and for 45 minutes at a time even. > > > > Keep to the cardio routine you are used to doing until you reach > your > > desired fat level. I didn't mean to confuse. > > > > Stasia > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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