Re: Craft show report.......

[Guest guest]

Wow Deb. Her attitude is bound to show thru to her customers also. Too bad

her herbs dont tell her play nice when they are " speaking " to her.

Shaye

Craft show report.......

I just finished my 2nd show this season and BOTH were terrible.

These shows were poorly attended and sales were the worst I have

experienced ever. I know it's early in the season but this is

ridiculous. At both shows crafters were very nice and I enjoy

chit chatting with such talented people.

I must say I was shocked today upon meeting a fellow

soapmaker/herbalist who displayed such arrogance and hostility

towards other soapmakers. Her conversation with me consisted of her

telling me how she quizzes other soapmakers on their ingedient list

and how most of them buy in bulk and just add fragrance. This gal

was pathetic and her insecurity was evident by the manner in which

she talked down about everyone else. When i told her who I was she

just continued her sermon, who she was training with, how herbs talk

to her, and how most of us don't even know to sterlize our

containers. Oh she grows her own herbs and makes her own rose water

too!! Big S***, I buy mine so how's that (LOL)!

Anywho, that's the highlight of my 2 shows....it's nice to come back

home and talk with NICE soapers...LOL!

Have a great night

Debra

near Syracuse

[Guest guest]

((HUGS))...hope the next show is better...and with nicer soapers too!

>

> I must say I was shocked today upon meeting a fellow

> soapmaker/herbalist who displayed such arrogance and hostility

> towards other soapmakers. >

> Have a great night

> Debra

> near Syracuse

[Guest guest]

>

.. Her conversation with me consisted of her

> telling me how she quizzes other soapmakers on their ingedient

list

> and how most of them buy in bulk and just add fragrance. This gal

> was pathetic and her insecurity was evident by the manner in which

> she talked down about everyone else.

Well, Deb...

There you said it! This " soapmaker " is obviously insecure with her

product, so she must cut others down. That *IS* pathetic. In our

journey through this life, we meet many who put on airs of

superiority, and then, like the wind, they vanish and are gone!

Don't let this person ruin your day! If anything, I always feel a

bit of compassion for folks like this...I truly feel sorry for them.

You know that your product is good! Sometimes I think folks think

they will learn to make products and then sell them and make lots of

money. They do no research..instead, they pick everyone else's

brain. They have nothing to share...nothing to back up what they do.

The net result is that they make what they make

just " because " ...There is no reason WHY or even HOW, but they must

feel confident in what they do...so...they cut others apart and feel

perfectly fine in so doing. And, while ignorance is bliss...if it is

confronted, it does tend to " rebel " ! There are so many sharing

experienced soapers all over the web...one need not look far to find

good recipes. Pirates abound!!! Just be encouraged, knowing the

love, caring and research you have put into your product to make it

your OWN!

Kae

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/25/2004 10:17:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

esprit1060@... writes:

I must say I was shocked today upon meeting a fellow

soapmaker/herbalist who displayed such arrogance and hostility

towards other soapmakers.

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Thanks heavens they're not all that way! :-)

Sorry to hear about the poor shows. I hope it's not a portender of the

season!

Beth

[Guest guest]

so sorry to hear of your bad expernience! I've only done one show

with some friends and I meet Colleen there and found out about this

wonderful group!

Hugs!

[Guest guest]

Wow, Deb, sorry to hear about your bad experience. Sounds like she was a

little stressed, huh? I did the Naples Grape Festival this weekend. Always

fun for me since I live here but man am I exhausted! I didn't get a chance

to wander the show so didn't get to check out the other soapmakers that were

there but I know there were about 3 or 4. Anybody from this list? Anyway, I

had a woman come in and talk to me about something that's set up at MCC

during the week. The cost for 3 tables was only like $5 but then you give

20% of your proceeds to the promoters. I don't know if that's a good deal or

not. I told her that I work during the week so couldn't do something like

that but gave her our website www..org and told her that

there's lots of wonderful soapmakers in the group. Gave her your website

too, Shaye, as she said she was from Ontario. I haven't checked the website

lately to see if there's a list of members with links to their websites so

maybe I sent her down the wrong path? Anyway, hope everyone had a great

weekend. The weather was wonderful, huh?! I'm off to kick back and relax.

The van can be unloaded in the morning! :-)

Katy

[Guest guest]

I had similar experience last year. The woman I spoke to looked down on me

because at the time I was making M & P. But I had been researching soap, and

trued to have an intelligent discussion with her. Nothing doing. In fact,

for all her arrogance and condescending attitude, it was amazing how much

she didn't know. For example, there's no glycerin in HER soaps! To her,

glycerin was a bad word!

Oh well, as has been said, what goes around comes around.

Diane

GreenFireHerbs.com

" Never say 'can't' when there's a 'How About This' still to be tried! "

Craft show report.......

I just finished my 2nd show this season and BOTH were terrible.

These shows were poorly attended and sales were the worst I have

experienced ever. I know it's early in the season but this is

ridiculous. At both shows crafters were very nice and I enjoy

chit chatting with such talented people.

I must say I was shocked today upon meeting a fellow

soapmaker/herbalist who displayed such arrogance and hostility

towards other soapmakers. Her conversation with me consisted of her

telling me how she quizzes other soapmakers on their ingedient list

and how most of them buy in bulk and just add fragrance. This gal

was pathetic and her insecurity was evident by the manner in which

she talked down about everyone else. When i told her who I was she

just continued her sermon, who she was training with, how herbs talk

to her, and how most of us don't even know to sterlize our

containers. Oh she grows her own herbs and makes her own rose water

too!! Big S***, I buy mine so how's that (LOL)!

Anywho, that's the highlight of my 2 shows....it's nice to come back

home and talk with NICE soapers...LOL!

Have a great night

Debra

near Syracuse

[Guest guest]

.... And I look forward to running into Dianeone day at a show near me, since

we're not too far from each other. She's one of the nicest soaping people

I've talked to in person.

Yeah, I once met another gal at my library---she was asking the librarian

about milk-based soaps and I tried to chat with her. Talk about a cold

response, LOL!

Actually, I find that the nastiest people have the least interesting

ingredient list on their soaps, anyway ;-)

Geri

> I had similar experience last year. The woman I spoke to looked down on

me

> because at the time I was making M & P.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/28/2004 6:31:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

gburgert@... writes:

Actually, I find that the nastiest people have the least interesting

ingredient list on their soaps, anyway ;-)

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I think there is a direct correlation between arrogance and boringness. :-)

Is that a word? Actually, someone who has no interest in talking to others

about their craft is probably not willing to learn much, either.

That's why I was so impressed with the gathering attendees, as everyone was

so friendly and willing and eager to share information.

Beth

Beth