Re: OFF TOPIC: bee pollen/royal jelly

[Guest guest]

> Has anyone out there used bee pollen or royal jelly themselves or

with their children...

Don't want to sound like an ad so if you'll send me your email

address, I can send you info...

Laurie>> Bucyrus,Oh

boldml@...

[Guest guest]

If you email me, our Dr. of Nutrition realyed to me that our company(Golden Pride,Inc.) knows more about Rotal Jelly and propolis then any DSA in America and owns Regina Royal Jelly(the premiere provider in the world). We have capsules and tablets of the propolis and a spray...when our children are coming down with something, we give their immune system a boost by opening up a capsule and letting them ear it raw...has carob flavoring so they almost beg for it! Or we sprinkle it on food. The pollen is in a pill form. A great many of our products have the jelly in them. You can click on the link to our website and maybe you can find some info there. I didn't want this to sound like an ad, but this is something we use and this is the product I know about. I could email you with more info if you'd like but it should probably be done off this board...at the very least, it can't hurt(there are exceptions, I'm sure)!

I am not a medical doctor,nor do I portray one on t.v.!(But my husband,Mike,is!!!)

Laurie>Bucyrus,Ohiomother to (13),Donovan(8),Buck(4),Luke(3), and (1)2 csecs,3 VBACs(1 partial waterbirth,1 complete waterbirth)

Please visit us at our websitehttp://www.goldenprideweb.com/drmikeandlaurie for information on nutritional supplements,including the original oral chelator, skin care,weight loss(The Florida Diet),Herbs for Health,and home products

----- Original Message -----

From: Montgomery

Has anyone out there used bee pollen or royal jelly themselves or with their children? I have been reading about it, and it touts itself to be an immunity builder and many more things. It sounds great. I wonder if it would benefit our kids any? I know, it sounds a little groovy. But, there are a ton of websites and articles about it. Check it out.

[Guest guest]

just remember that Dr. G says it's much more important to take things out of

the kids then putting extra things in them. Things like Echinacea, for

example, are counterindicated for our children because they FIRE up the

immune system which in the case of an autoimmune illness is the wrong

approach and can exacerbate problems. (it even says on some labels, " not for

use in autoimmune illness " ) But I certainly understand that you are

interested in helping your child!

OFF TOPIC: bee pollen/royal jelly

> Has anyone out there used bee pollen or royal jelly themselves or with

their children? I have been reading about it, and it touts itself to be an

immunity builder and many more things. It sounds great. I wonder if it

would benefit our kids any? I know, it sounds a little groovy. But, there

are a ton of websites and articles about it. Check it out.

>

> I told my husband that we need to be trying to take good care of

ourselves so we can, God willing and barring any terrible accidents, be

around for a long time to take care of Landon, our autistic son. Don't get

me wrong, I am trying EVERYTHING I can to " cure " him or at least make him

independent. I am pumping him full of supplements and etc. It occured to

me that he'll out live us all and have no one to make sure he's taken care

of in his adulthood or old age!! We parents need to be taking the

supplements and vitamins so we can be here for them. Only God has the

knowledge of whether we'll be here in 20-50yrs. But, we can at least do the

best we can. OK, I know I am sounding morbid. I guess I'm having one of

those days, HATE AUTISM, FEEL FAT, BAD HAIR, HOUSE A MESS, SCHOOL DISTRICT

BEING DIFFICULT, HUSBAND NOT UNDERSTANDING, ........ Forgive me for

ranting. But, I am serious about the bee pollen. Does anyone know much

about it??

>

> Trina

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I need to be removed from this webring. How do I go about this?

[Guest guest]

I am new to this list and hope that I am not too shockingly uninformed.

However, it seems that if you are not meant to " fire up " the immune system

for a child with autoimmune illness than you couldnt' give them food which

was nutritious as nutrients boost the immune system. Obviously, not feeding

a child nutritious food is not sensible, but can anybody give me some

remedial information on this idea that one must not " fire up " the immune

system? I've noticed that Vitamin C and, indeed, echinacea seems to help my

child get over colds, but if echinacea is definitely dangerous I will stop!

Can't see stopping giving a child vitamin C, but I am interested in hearing

others views.

Thank you,

martha rolfe

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>

>

> > Has anyone out there used bee pollen or royal jelly themselves or with

> their children? I have been reading about it, and it touts itself to be

an

> immunity builder and many more things. It sounds great. I wonder if it

> would benefit our kids any? I know, it sounds a little groovy. But,

there

> are a ton of websites and articles about it. Check it out.

> >

> > I told my husband that we need to be trying to take good care of

> ourselves so we can, God willing and barring any terrible accidents, be

> around for a long time to take care of Landon, our autistic son. Don't

get

> me wrong, I am trying EVERYTHING I can to " cure " him or at least make him

> independent. I am pumping him full of supplements and etc. It occured to

> me that he'll out live us all and have no one to make sure he's taken care

> of in his adulthood or old age!! We parents need to be taking the

> supplements and vitamins so we can be here for them. Only God has the

> knowledge of whether we'll be here in 20-50yrs. But, we can at least do

the

> best we can. OK, I know I am sounding morbid. I guess I'm having one of

> those days, HATE AUTISM, FEEL FAT, BAD HAIR, HOUSE A MESS, SCHOOL DISTRICT

> BEING DIFFICULT, HUSBAND NOT UNDERSTANDING, ........ Forgive me for

> ranting. But, I am serious about the bee pollen. Does anyone know much

> about it??

> >

> > Trina

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Trina,

I know nothing of bee pollen, but I have a question for you. Is your son on

antivirals following Dr. Goldberg's protocol? Have you run all of

recommended tests? I saw Dr. Goldberg this weekend and was so impressed with

what he had to say.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Of course good nutrition, mostly in the form of protein/vegetables is very

important for optimum health for our children. But the fact that they are

" allergic " (or " sensitive " ) to many foods indicates that many usually benign

things things can set off their systems. Mega vitamins/Echinacea and other

supplements can fire up the immune system and therefore aggravate an

autoimmune condition. Also, classically allergic foods such as nuts,

berries, dairy and whole wheat should be avoided because of this effect.

Did you know for example for some patients with rheumatoid arthritis,another

autoimmune condition, are helped by removing dairy from their diets and can

dramatically reduce their need for pain medication? The system just has more

trouble dealing with certain subtances than others and especially in a

compromised immune sytem. ---- Original Message -----

From: " Alastair Rolfe " <Alastair_Rolfe@...>

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Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 3:52 PM

Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC: bee pollen/royal jelly

> I am new to this list and hope that I am not too shockingly uninformed.

> However, it seems that if you are not meant to " fire up " the immune

system

> for a child with autoimmune illness than you couldnt' give them food which

> was nutritious as nutrients boost the immune system. Obviously, not

feeding

> a child nutritious food is not sensible, but can anybody give me some

> remedial information on this idea that one must not " fire up " the immune

> system? I've noticed that Vitamin C and, indeed, echinacea seems to help

my

> child get over colds, but if echinacea is definitely dangerous I will

stop!

> Can't see stopping giving a child vitamin C, but I am interested in

hearing

> others views.

>

> Thank you,

>

>

> martha rolfe

>

> OFF TOPIC: bee pollen/royal jelly

> >

> >

> > > Has anyone out there used bee pollen or royal jelly themselves or with

> > their children? I have been reading about it, and it touts itself to be

> an

> > immunity builder and many more things. It sounds great. I wonder if it

> > would benefit our kids any? I know, it sounds a little groovy. But,

> there

> > are a ton of websites and articles about it. Check it out.

> > >

> > > I told my husband that we need to be trying to take good care of

> > ourselves so we can, God willing and barring any terrible accidents, be

> > around for a long time to take care of Landon, our autistic son. Don't

> get

> > me wrong, I am trying EVERYTHING I can to " cure " him or at least make

him

> > independent. I am pumping him full of supplements and etc. It occured

to

> > me that he'll out live us all and have no one to make sure he's taken ca

re

> > of in his adulthood or old age!! We parents need to be taking the

> > supplements and vitamins so we can be here for them. Only God has the

> > knowledge of whether we'll be here in 20-50yrs. But, we can at least do

> the

> > best we can. OK, I know I am sounding morbid. I guess I'm having one

of

> > those days, HATE AUTISM, FEEL FAT, BAD HAIR, HOUSE A MESS, SCHOOL

DISTRICT

> > BEING DIFFICULT, HUSBAND NOT UNDERSTANDING, ........ Forgive me for

> > ranting. But, I am serious about the bee pollen. Does anyone know much

> > about it??

> > >

> > > Trina

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Yes, my own experience has taught me that gluten, casein, foods high in

salicylates, some additional " allergenic type " foods such as corn and soy

effect my son, and we don't use these. I have never gone into the

megavitamins either. However, I have found some nuts and seeds vital to

Nicky's health (for one thing, they keep weight on him, also prevent the

necessity for laxatives). There are some foods which serve as nice

antivirals, of course, but some disagree with my child (garlic for example).

I wish he would eat a vegetable or fruit, but he will only have fruit juice

once in awhile and so if I give him some it is fresh squeezed (sigh). I

look forward to learning more on this list.

Thank you,

Martha Rolfe

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> > >

> > >

> > > > Has anyone out there used bee pollen or royal jelly themselves or

with

> > > their children? I have been reading about it, and it touts itself to

be

> > an

> > > immunity builder and many more things. It sounds great. I wonder if

it

> > > would benefit our kids any? I know, it sounds a little groovy. But,

> > there

> > > are a ton of websites and articles about it. Check it out.

> > > >

> > > > I told my husband that we need to be trying to take good care of

> > > ourselves so we can, God willing and barring any terrible accidents,

be

> > > around for a long time to take care of Landon, our autistic son.

Don't

> > get

> > > me wrong, I am trying EVERYTHING I can to " cure " him or at least make

> him

> > > independent. I am pumping him full of supplements and etc. It

occured

> to

> > > me that he'll out live us all and have no one to make sure he's taken

ca

> re

> > > of in his adulthood or old age!! We parents need to be taking the

> > > supplements and vitamins so we can be here for them. Only God has the

> > > knowledge of whether we'll be here in 20-50yrs. But, we can at least

do

> > the

> > > best we can. OK, I know I am sounding morbid. I guess I'm having

one

> of

> > > those days, HATE AUTISM, FEEL FAT, BAD HAIR, HOUSE A MESS, SCHOOL

> DISTRICT

> > > BEING DIFFICULT, HUSBAND NOT UNDERSTANDING, ........ Forgive me for

> > > ranting. But, I am serious about the bee pollen. Does anyone know

much

> > > about it??

> > > >

> > > > Trina

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >