Willamette Spine Center ad

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I see that the Willamette Spine Center (Fred Tiley, et al) here in Salem

ran an ad in the Statesman Journal today for DISC Nucleoplasty, " ...a

minimally invasive, non-chiropractic medical procedure offering

long-term VAS pain score reduction. "

Why would they find it necessary to call it a " non-chiropractic medical

procedure " ? Are they afraid that the public might assume that it's a

chiropractic procedure?

I guess the use of " non-chiropractic " in an ad by a facility that we

refer a lot of our cases to for surgical evaluation bothers me a little.

It almost sounds as if it's something superior to what chiropractic

might have to offer.

Lyndon McGill, D.C.

Salem, Oregon

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I think you guys in Salem should send a gentle, professional letter to them

suggesting that including non-chiropractic in their ad is not helpful. That

you are a referring doctor to them and don't wish to become a former

referring doctor. Further, you would hate to have to mention in your

quarterly newsletter to hundreds of patients that Willamette Spine Center

appears to be anti-chiropractic, etc.

( E. Abrahamson, D.C.)

Chiropractic physician

Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic

315 Second Street

Lake Oswego, OR 97034

503-635-6246

Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com

> From: Lyndon McGill <twogems@...>

> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 15:36:14 -0700

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> Subject: Willamette Spine Center ad

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> I see that the Willamette Spine Center (Fred Tiley, et al) here in Salem

> ran an ad in the Statesman Journal today for DISC Nucleoplasty, " ...a

> minimally invasive, non-chiropractic medical procedure offering

> long-term VAS pain score reduction. "

>

> Why would they find it necessary to call it a " non-chiropractic medical

> procedure " ? Are they afraid that the public might assume that it's a

> chiropractic procedure?

>

> I guess the use of " non-chiropractic " in an ad by a facility that we

> refer a lot of our cases to for surgical evaluation bothers me a little.

> It almost sounds as if it's something superior to what chiropractic

> might have to offer.

>

> Lyndon McGill, D.C.

> Salem, Oregon

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I believe that the Willamete Center has always supported Chiropractic and

this may just have been an attempt to differrentiate for the patient.

Wouldn't be to thinned skinned over this...

Danno

Willamette Spine Center ad

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>> :

>>

>> I see that the Willamette Spine Center (Fred Tiley, et al) here in Salem

>> ran an ad in the Statesman Journal today for DISC Nucleoplasty, " ...a

>> minimally invasive, non-chiropractic medical procedure offering

>> long-term VAS pain score reduction. "

>>

>> Why would they find it necessary to call it a " non-chiropractic medical

>> procedure " ? Are they afraid that the public might assume that it's a

>> chiropractic procedure?

>>

>> I guess the use of " non-chiropractic " in an ad by a facility that we

>> refer a lot of our cases to for surgical evaluation bothers me a little.

>> It almost sounds as if it's something superior to what chiropractic

>> might have to offer.

>>

>> Lyndon McGill, D.C.

>> Salem, Oregon

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> OregonDCs rules:

>> 1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to

>> foster

>> communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve members

>> will

>> be tolerated.

>> 2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name.

>> 3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere.

>> However, it

>> is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward, or

>> otherwise

>> distribute correspondence written by another member without his or her

>> consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed.

>>

[Guest guest]

Danno:

You're right. We and our patients have always been treated with respect

by Fred, Don et al. Obviously, chiropractors have certainly promoted

themselves and their services as being a "non-medical" and

"non-surgical" approach to health. So I guess we're even now.

Lyndon.

D Beebe, D.C. wrote:

I believe that the Willamete Center has always supported Chiropractic and this may just have been an attempt to differrentiate for the patient. Wouldn't be to thinned skinned over this...

Danno

Willamette Spine Center ad

:

I see that the Willamette Spine Center (Fred Tiley, et al) here in Salem

ran an ad in the Statesman Journal today for DISC Nucleoplasty, "...a

minimally invasive, non-chiropractic medical procedure offering

long-term VAS pain score reduction."

Why would they find it necessary to call it a "non-chiropractic medical

procedure" ? Are they afraid that the public might assume that it's a

chiropractic procedure?

I guess the use of "non-chiropractic" in an ad by a facility that we

refer a lot of our cases to for surgical evaluation bothers me a little.

It almost sounds as if it's something superior to what chiropractic

might have to offer.

Lyndon McGill, D.C.

Salem, Oregon

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Lyndon, Danno, ,

As you know, WSC was co-founded by a chiropractor and has very active participation of chiropractors in it. The MDs and the PT at the facility are apparently worried that the MDs who refer to the facility think that all of the patients end up in chiropractic care. I think that they have gone overboard with this ad, and I also think that a letter from a few referring docs telling them, in a collegial manner, that the ad was offensive, would set them straight. As Danno says, these are a bunch of good docs who work with chiropractors daily, and they just need a bit of feedback.

Freeman Re: Willamette Spine Center ad Danno:You're right. We and our patients have always been treated with respect by Fred, Don et al. Obviously, chiropractors have certainly promoted themselves and their services as being a "non-medical" and "non-surgical" approach to health. So I guess we're even now.Lyndon. D Beebe, D.C. wrote:

I believe that the Willamete Center has always supported Chiropractic and this may just have been an attempt to differrentiate for the patient. Wouldn't be to thinned skinned over this...

Danno

Willamette Spine Center ad

:

I see that the Willamette Spine Center (Fred Tiley, et al) here in Salem

ran an ad in the Statesman Journal today for DISC Nucleoplasty, "...a

minimally invasive, non-chiropractic medical procedure offering

long-term VAS pain score reduction."

Why would they find it necessary to call it a "non-chiropractic medical

procedure" ? Are they afraid that the public might assume that it's a

chiropractic procedure?

I guess the use of "non-chiropractic" in an ad by a facility that we

refer a lot of our cases to for surgical evaluation bothers me a little.

It almost sounds as if it's something superior to what chiropractic

might have to offer.

Lyndon McGill, D.C.

Salem, Oregon

OregonDCs rules:

1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to foster

communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve members will

be tolerated.

2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name.

3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere. However, it

is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward, or otherwise

distribute correspondence written by another member without his or her

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