Guest guest Posted November 26, 2000 Report Share Posted November 26, 2000 Lois Don't know for sure, but one parent friend of mine mentioned something like that with turkey and also with chicken. Nothing would surprise me when it comes to our kids' whacky immune systems! Becky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2000 Report Share Posted November 29, 2000 Lois, did you have an " organic " turkey or a basic grocery store variety?....You wouldn't believe what they feed turkeys (I used to live across the road from one). It's pretty scary. Perhaps JJ is reacting to something artificial in the turkey. Also, I had a few patients who worked in at O's and around Thanksgiving time, they were stuffing a " free gravy packet " in each turkey. I don't know what was in this presumed " gravy " but it was so bad several people on the line developed severe eye irritation. They told me it only happens near Thanksgiving when they use the gravy packets....YUCK!!! Food for thought! Go organic. Costs more but safer for the kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2000 Report Share Posted November 29, 2000 Re: turkey and bad behaviour it's the tryptophan in the turkey that is the culprit. It effects serotonin. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2000 Report Share Posted November 29, 2000 Hi! It was a basic grocery store one. frozen too. I did my own gravy but JJ doesan't eat gravy anyway. He just ate the turkey white meat part. Lois lveggie@... wrote: > Lois, did you have an " organic " turkey or a basic grocery store > variety?....You wouldn't believe what they feed turkeys (I used to live > across the road from one). It's pretty scary. Perhaps JJ is reacting to > something artificial in the turkey. Also, I had a few patients who worked in > at O's and around Thanksgiving time, they were stuffing a " free gravy > packet " in each turkey. I don't know what was in this presumed " gravy " but > it was so bad several people on the line developed severe eye irritation. > They told me it only happens near Thanksgiving when they use the gravy > packets....YUCK!!! Food for thought! Go organic. Costs more but safer for > the kids. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2000 Report Share Posted November 29, 2000 Sara, How do you know that? thanks, Lois saral wrote: > Re: turkey and bad behaviour > > it's the tryptophan in the turkey that is the culprit. It effects serotonin. > > Sara > > > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with > the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the > opinion of the Research Institute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2000 Report Share Posted November 29, 2000 If turkey has tryptophan (I don't know what that is), does anyone know if we shouldn't be giving turkey at all to our children? My son loves the turkey from the deli at Whole Foods, which is organic and has no nitrates or nitrites. On some days, I may give my six year old 2 to 3 turkey sandwiches per day. Please let me know if this is not good. Vicki saral wrote: > > Re: turkey and bad behaviour > > it's the tryptophan in the turkey that is the culprit. It effects serotonin. > > Sara > > > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with > the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the > opinion of the Research Institute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2000 Report Share Posted November 29, 2000 Thanks so much for the information! Lois saral wrote: > Re: turkey and bad behaviour > > > If turkey has tryptophan (I don't know what that is), does anyone know > > if we shouldn't be giving turkey at all to our children? My son > > loves the turkey from the deli at Whole Foods, which is organic and has > > no nitrates or nitrites. On some days, I may give my six year old > > 2 to 3 turkey sandwiches per day. Please let me know if this is not > > good. > > > > Vicki > > > Lois and Vicki, > > Trytophan is what makes you relaxed and tired after a turkey dinner. It used > to be available in HFS, but now you can only get 5htp which converts to > tryptophan in the body. Autistic kids can have either too much or too little > serotonin, so tryptophan will effect each kid differently. If a child shows > some positive reaction after eating turkey, that child may benefit from > 5htp. Here's some info from Smart Basics > http://www.smartbasics.com/glossary/tryptophan_glos.htm > > Sara > > " Tryptophan, an essential amino acid, is one of the amino acids which the > body cannot manufacture itself, but most acquire from food. It is the least > abundant in proteins and also easily destroyed by the liver. Tryptophan is > necessary for the production of the B-vitamin niacin, which is essential for > your brain to manufacture the key neurotransmitter serotonin. Scientists > have linked low serotonin levels with insomnia, anxiety and depression. It > helps control hyperactivity, relieves stress, suppresses the appetite and > enhances the release of growth hormones. > > More than forty studies have shown the effectiveness of Tryptophan for > insomnia. It has been shown to enable people to fall asleep more quickly, > and to increase sleep time without the hangover effect of regular sleeping > pills. Studies have also found it effective for jet lag. In one study at the > University of California School of Medicine, fifty one marines were flown > across eight time zones. Half received tryptophan and the other half > placebos. Those who got the amino acid were able to sleep more and responded > better on performance tests and reaction times. > > Other studies show tryptophan to have anti-anxiety effects and control > aggressive behavior in some individuals. Used in combination with drug > therapy, Tryptophan has helped previously unresponsive depressed patients. > Another study showed it's antidepressant effect to be of longer duration > than the popular antidepressant drug Imipramine...... > > The best food sources of Tryptophan are pineapple, turkey, chicken, yogurt, > bananas and unripened cheese. Combining these foods with some carbohydrates, > such as pasta, cereal or bread etc., will enable your brain to absorb the > tryptophan more effectively, where it is used to manufacture serotonin. > > Although Tryptophan has a long history of safe use, in December 1989 the FDA > reported over 600 cases of a flu-like syndrome associated with a blood > abnormality in those taking the amino acid. Although the problem was traced > to a contaminated batch, Tryptophan is no longer available in supplement > form. Because of potential adverse reactions, tryptophan supplements are not > recommended in pregnant women, asthmatics or people with auto-immune > disorders like Lupus or Scleroderma. " > > > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with > the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the > opinion of the Research Institute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2000 Report Share Posted November 30, 2000 Re: turkey and bad behaviour > If turkey has tryptophan (I don't know what that is), does anyone know > if we shouldn't be giving turkey at all to our children? My son > loves the turkey from the deli at Whole Foods, which is organic and has > no nitrates or nitrites. On some days, I may give my six year old > 2 to 3 turkey sandwiches per day. Please let me know if this is not > good. > > Vicki > Lois and Vicki, Trytophan is what makes you relaxed and tired after a turkey dinner. It used to be available in HFS, but now you can only get 5htp which converts to tryptophan in the body. Autistic kids can have either too much or too little serotonin, so tryptophan will effect each kid differently. If a child shows some positive reaction after eating turkey, that child may benefit from 5htp. Here's some info from Smart Basics http://www.smartbasics.com/glossary/tryptophan_glos.htm Sara " Tryptophan, an essential amino acid, is one of the amino acids which the body cannot manufacture itself, but most acquire from food. It is the least abundant in proteins and also easily destroyed by the liver. Tryptophan is necessary for the production of the B-vitamin niacin, which is essential for your brain to manufacture the key neurotransmitter serotonin. Scientists have linked low serotonin levels with insomnia, anxiety and depression. It helps control hyperactivity, relieves stress, suppresses the appetite and enhances the release of growth hormones. More than forty studies have shown the effectiveness of Tryptophan for insomnia. It has been shown to enable people to fall asleep more quickly, and to increase sleep time without the hangover effect of regular sleeping pills. Studies have also found it effective for jet lag. In one study at the University of California School of Medicine, fifty one marines were flown across eight time zones. Half received tryptophan and the other half placebos. Those who got the amino acid were able to sleep more and responded better on performance tests and reaction times. Other studies show tryptophan to have anti-anxiety effects and control aggressive behavior in some individuals. Used in combination with drug therapy, Tryptophan has helped previously unresponsive depressed patients. Another study showed it's antidepressant effect to be of longer duration than the popular antidepressant drug Imipramine...... The best food sources of Tryptophan are pineapple, turkey, chicken, yogurt, bananas and unripened cheese. Combining these foods with some carbohydrates, such as pasta, cereal or bread etc., will enable your brain to absorb the tryptophan more effectively, where it is used to manufacture serotonin. Although Tryptophan has a long history of safe use, in December 1989 the FDA reported over 600 cases of a flu-like syndrome associated with a blood abnormality in those taking the amino acid. Although the problem was traced to a contaminated batch, Tryptophan is no longer available in supplement form. Because of potential adverse reactions, tryptophan supplements are not recommended in pregnant women, asthmatics or people with auto-immune disorders like Lupus or Scleroderma. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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