Guest guest Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 I've called and email the principal requesting a private meeting. I plan to show him the sensory assessment, IEP (where it states Nic " escapes " and needs constant supervision), ask why the teacher is entering the stall when Nic is in there sitting on the toilet and how can she determine if he's done going or not, all of his work papers that come home virtually mistake free and not 1 sticker or happy face or anything positive, His communication book with basically nothing written unless it's negative, I'll explain once again about the raspberries not really being " spitting " just his way of communicating his displeasure or anger,and state that the teacher should know better than to get so close as to get spit on her face, the fact that, now, when he does a raspberry, they put him in time out! He'll be there all day! directed me to her son's Behavior Plan and surprisingly, they have allot of the same " issues " so I'm drafting my OWN BP and will present that to him also. Hinting that the school BS should have done this long ago. Di RE: Behavior Plan HELP! > > > Hi DI, > Ahhhh, the behavior thing. :-) btdt. > > Get a copy of whatever your state uses for prior written notice to have handy at your meeting. (I think there's one on the MN state page if you can't find one for your state) > > I'm assuming that they havn't had someone come in and do a behavior assessment yet? So request a behavior assessment at this meeting, -(they'll love ya, lol) Put it in writing if you want. :-) Then if they say they don't need to or can't blah blah blah have them put in writing, (prior written notice) that they are refusing and why (this is why they'll really love ya, hehehe...do I need to put the NOT!! here?) . > > You'll probably get your behavior assessment, and hopefully some good stratagies for dealing with the problems to help write up the BIP. The plus is the teacher will probably either finally shut up or if possible the person doing the assessment will see a confict between them and recommend a change to a different teacher. One thing about the way our kids are treated seems to be that some people just don't know when to back off. Is there something wrong with telling the child that it's fine, you can just sit there and when you're ready to do something you can do this worksheet (or whatever?) or have two things to do and let the kid decide which to do first? UGH!! > > It does sound like you really need to have someone who does address the behavior issues come in, and not sure or the experience others have had with a school provided person to do this but surprisingly our experience was very positive. But the guy who did the assessment for us basically just did this type of work, he was not the phycologist used for IQ tests and stuff but someone who worked with kids with these challenging behaviors (and teachers/staff who seemed to make these behaviors really come out) > > Good Luck > Joy > PS if you have already gone through alot of crap with this particular teacher I wouldn't worry to much about going above her head in the chain of command. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 With help from 's son's Behavior Plan, I wrote my own and it's quite good if I do say so myself! I told Bob, after I present it, I'll submit a bill. 80) I can't wait to see what their BS thinks of it. I also remind them about the sensory assessment and their recommendations. Also, no physical touching (unless safety is a factor). Thanks for all the help and well wishes. Di Re: Behavior Plan HELP! In a message dated 3/20/2005 1:05:26 PM US Mountain Standard Time, drf218@... writes: it did state he had sensory issues. One in particular, he doesn't like his head touched! That sounds like Maverick. You need to have this addressed in the IEP. M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 With help from 's son's Behavior Plan, I wrote my own and it's quite good if I do say so myself! I told Bob, after I present it, I'll submit a bill. 80) I can't wait to see what their BS thinks of it. I also remind them about the sensory assessment and their recommendations. Also, no physical touching (unless safety is a factor). Thanks for all the help and well wishes. Di Re: Behavior Plan HELP! In a message dated 3/20/2005 1:05:26 PM US Mountain Standard Time, drf218@... writes: it did state he had sensory issues. One in particular, he doesn't like his head touched! That sounds like Maverick. You need to have this addressed in the IEP. M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Now that I'm reading his book and behavior chart, she was out the week before...moving. we all know how stressful that can be but on top of that...her fiancée (yup someone is actually marrying her hehehe,sorry...) broke his foot and cannot help with the move..So, she's planning a wedding, and moving, and dealing with her fiancée's injury....I bet the stress is carrying over into school and her patience is thin. Di Behavior Plan HELP! > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have an example of a behavior plan I can use to show the > > school's " BS " (and I use the term loosely). > > > We are having peoblems with Nic at school-only at school and only with > one > > particular teacher. ly I think she is inflating things to make them > > sound much worse than they are. For instance, Nic does this " raspberry " > > thing when he dislikes something or is mad. She calls it spitting. > yesteray > > she said Nic kicked her in the stomach and spit in her face. She mentioned > > at the last meeting about him " spitting " in her face and how grossed out > she > > was and disgusting it was. I asked why she had her face so close to his as > > to have the spit hit her. So knowing that he does this, why oh why would > you > > put yourself in his range again ??? > > > As for the kicking, she was kneeling in front of him, holding his face > to > > make him look at her. I think he did kick but not at her but more like a > > " get out of my space " kinda thing. Am I making any sense? lately, it seems > > when someone is " in his space " he gets defensive? is that the right word? > > He told the OT to " go away " the other day and they classified that as a > > refusal to do work even though the report stated he was " doing his work " . > > > > > > Anyway, back to the BP. He doesn't have one. we have had 6 IEPs so far > > this year, mainly for behavior and the BS still hasn't addressed these > other > > behaviors that she (teacher) constantly complains about. > > > > > > She wrote an incident report that was sent to the principal and cc to > the > > SPEd director. It said if these behaviors continue we will have an IEP to > > address his " current program " . Meaning they want him out. They tried this > 2 > > months ago, collected behavior data for a month and concluded that his > > behavior has actually improved. I know she doesn't want to deal with him > and > > is now nit-picking everything he does or maybe even provoking him. > > > > > > When ever there's a sub, he has a good day. She was out all last week I > > got not one bad report about him. > > > > > > When our private BS goes in to observe she said the room is like a > morgue. > > Very dull and she teaches like a robot, Not creative at all. > > > > > > I'm going in on the 22nd to observe myself. > > > > > > Someone please help. I have tried to be civil and maintain control but > now > > I'm ready to FLIP! > > > > > > Di > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Now that I'm reading his book and behavior chart, she was out the week before...moving. we all know how stressful that can be but on top of that...her fiancée (yup someone is actually marrying her hehehe,sorry...) broke his foot and cannot help with the move..So, she's planning a wedding, and moving, and dealing with her fiancée's injury....I bet the stress is carrying over into school and her patience is thin. Di Behavior Plan HELP! > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have an example of a behavior plan I can use to show the > > school's " BS " (and I use the term loosely). > > > We are having peoblems with Nic at school-only at school and only with > one > > particular teacher. ly I think she is inflating things to make them > > sound much worse than they are. For instance, Nic does this " raspberry " > > thing when he dislikes something or is mad. She calls it spitting. > yesteray > > she said Nic kicked her in the stomach and spit in her face. She mentioned > > at the last meeting about him " spitting " in her face and how grossed out > she > > was and disgusting it was. I asked why she had her face so close to his as > > to have the spit hit her. So knowing that he does this, why oh why would > you > > put yourself in his range again ??? > > > As for the kicking, she was kneeling in front of him, holding his face > to > > make him look at her. I think he did kick but not at her but more like a > > " get out of my space " kinda thing. Am I making any sense? lately, it seems > > when someone is " in his space " he gets defensive? is that the right word? > > He told the OT to " go away " the other day and they classified that as a > > refusal to do work even though the report stated he was " doing his work " . > > > > > > Anyway, back to the BP. He doesn't have one. we have had 6 IEPs so far > > this year, mainly for behavior and the BS still hasn't addressed these > other > > behaviors that she (teacher) constantly complains about. > > > > > > She wrote an incident report that was sent to the principal and cc to > the > > SPEd director. It said if these behaviors continue we will have an IEP to > > address his " current program " . Meaning they want him out. They tried this > 2 > > months ago, collected behavior data for a month and concluded that his > > behavior has actually improved. I know she doesn't want to deal with him > and > > is now nit-picking everything he does or maybe even provoking him. > > > > > > When ever there's a sub, he has a good day. She was out all last week I > > got not one bad report about him. > > > > > > When our private BS goes in to observe she said the room is like a > morgue. > > Very dull and she teaches like a robot, Not creative at all. > > > > > > I'm going in on the 22nd to observe myself. > > > > > > Someone please help. I have tried to be civil and maintain control but > now > > I'm ready to FLIP! > > > > > > Di > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Just got an email from the principal, I go at 12 tomorrow for a private meeting..... Di Behavior Plan HELP! > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have an example of a behavior plan I can use to show the > > school's " BS " (and I use the term loosely). > > > We are having peoblems with Nic at school-only at school and only with > one > > particular teacher. ly I think she is inflating things to make them > > sound much worse than they are. For instance, Nic does this " raspberry " > > thing when he dislikes something or is mad. She calls it spitting. > yesteray > > she said Nic kicked her in the stomach and spit in her face. She mentioned > > at the last meeting about him " spitting " in her face and how grossed out > she > > was and disgusting it was. I asked why she had her face so close to his as > > to have the spit hit her. So knowing that he does this, why oh why would > you > > put yourself in his range again ??? > > > As for the kicking, she was kneeling in front of him, holding his face > to > > make him look at her. I think he did kick but not at her but more like a > > " get out of my space " kinda thing. Am I making any sense? lately, it seems > > when someone is " in his space " he gets defensive? is that the right word? > > He told the OT to " go away " the other day and they classified that as a > > refusal to do work even though the report stated he was " doing his work " . > > > > > > Anyway, back to the BP. He doesn't have one. we have had 6 IEPs so far > > this year, mainly for behavior and the BS still hasn't addressed these > other > > behaviors that she (teacher) constantly complains about. > > > > > > She wrote an incident report that was sent to the principal and cc to > the > > SPEd director. It said if these behaviors continue we will have an IEP to > > address his " current program " . Meaning they want him out. They tried this > 2 > > months ago, collected behavior data for a month and concluded that his > > behavior has actually improved. I know she doesn't want to deal with him > and > > is now nit-picking everything he does or maybe even provoking him. > > > > > > When ever there's a sub, he has a good day. She was out all last week I > > got not one bad report about him. > > > > > > When our private BS goes in to observe she said the room is like a > morgue. > > Very dull and she teaches like a robot, Not creative at all. > > > > > > I'm going in on the 22nd to observe myself. > > > > > > Someone please help. I have tried to be civil and maintain control but > now > > I'm ready to FLIP! > > > > > > Di > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Just got an email from the principal, I go at 12 tomorrow for a private meeting..... Di Behavior Plan HELP! > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have an example of a behavior plan I can use to show the > > school's " BS " (and I use the term loosely). > > > We are having peoblems with Nic at school-only at school and only with > one > > particular teacher. ly I think she is inflating things to make them > > sound much worse than they are. For instance, Nic does this " raspberry " > > thing when he dislikes something or is mad. She calls it spitting. > yesteray > > she said Nic kicked her in the stomach and spit in her face. She mentioned > > at the last meeting about him " spitting " in her face and how grossed out > she > > was and disgusting it was. I asked why she had her face so close to his as > > to have the spit hit her. So knowing that he does this, why oh why would > you > > put yourself in his range again ??? > > > As for the kicking, she was kneeling in front of him, holding his face > to > > make him look at her. I think he did kick but not at her but more like a > > " get out of my space " kinda thing. Am I making any sense? lately, it seems > > when someone is " in his space " he gets defensive? is that the right word? > > He told the OT to " go away " the other day and they classified that as a > > refusal to do work even though the report stated he was " doing his work " . > > > > > > Anyway, back to the BP. He doesn't have one. we have had 6 IEPs so far > > this year, mainly for behavior and the BS still hasn't addressed these > other > > behaviors that she (teacher) constantly complains about. > > > > > > She wrote an incident report that was sent to the principal and cc to > the > > SPEd director. It said if these behaviors continue we will have an IEP to > > address his " current program " . Meaning they want him out. They tried this > 2 > > months ago, collected behavior data for a month and concluded that his > > behavior has actually improved. I know she doesn't want to deal with him > and > > is now nit-picking everything he does or maybe even provoking him. > > > > > > When ever there's a sub, he has a good day. She was out all last week I > > got not one bad report about him. > > > > > > When our private BS goes in to observe she said the room is like a > morgue. > > Very dull and she teaches like a robot, Not creative at all. > > > > > > I'm going in on the 22nd to observe myself. > > > > > > Someone please help. I have tried to be civil and maintain control but > now > > I'm ready to FLIP! > > > > > > Di > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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