Re: anyone here on prozac?

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Hello

My older sister the Doctor is a big proponent of Prozac. She had actually sent

me boxes full of samples last year and I tried them out for the hell of it. I

don't think it did much for me back then but now that I'm faced with CHF

secondary to Dilated Cardio

Myopathy, I'm thinking of asking my Doctor for some. I think that Prozac is

usually well tolerated but if your partner is getting hallucinations, you may

want to back off the dosage for six weeks or so. It stays around in your

system for a very long time and it

could be that the levels are just building up too much.

Regards,

rachelvk67@... wrote:

> My partner is on it and he is having major visual hallucinations that

> the Drs have told him are not related to the prozac. I am not so

> sure - did some research and evidently one in one thousand people do

> get them. However he has been on it for 12 months and only getting

> the hallucinations for about 3-4 months

> Anyone had any experience with this, or know anyone who has? I am

> asking cause this is causing major stress which is sure not helping

> atl all under the circumstances

>

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> My partner is on it and he is having major visual hallucinations

that

> the Drs have told him are not related to the prozac. I am not so

> sure - did some research and evidently one in one thousand people

do

> get them. However he has been on it for 12 months and only getting

> the hallucinations for about 3-4 months

> Anyone had any experience with this, or know anyone who has? I am

> asking cause this is causing major stress which is sure not helping

> atl all under the circumstances

>

I've taken it a few times and can't honestly say I have had visual

hallucinations other then some spots. First I thought 'no, it can't

be the prozac causing it if he's been on it for a year and is just

now having them' but then you add that he's had this problem for 3-4

months already. What else is he on? It *could* be the prozac. What

dose is he at? Is it working for him 'other than' this suspected

problem?

Deb

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> you may want to back off the dosage for six weeks or so. It stays

around in your system for a very long time and it

> could be that the levels are just building up too much.

*If* he does decide to back off it a bit, I would advise him to at

least let the doctor know, and do *NOT* just stop taking it! The side

effects from that alone would be horrendous!

Deb

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Hi

Thanks for the reply :-) Sounds like your sister is handy to have

around LOL

What is CHF? Yeah, we have been told that it is generally well

tolerated too, that is what all the Drs have been saying. He is also

taking quite large doses of Codiene for pain, I did a search to see

if the combination of the two could be causing the problems, however

I didnt find anything to support that.

However the prozac was listed by the company themselves as causing

hallucinations for 1 in every 1000 people. I was surprised that they

obviously didnt think that that was relevant enough to consider that

could be the cause.

He cant just back off the prozac unless they wean him onto something

else, as he was weaned off zoloft onto the prozac (circumstances mean

that he really needs to be on something at this kind of dose for a

while yet. He is under enormous stress from a compensation case, to

be in court in a few weeks after years of waiting, so now is not a

good time to just reduce the dose)

I am inclined to think that the symptoms are chemically induced

rather than stress induced as these hallucinations are really full

on, and he has not displayed any tendancy towards psychosis in the

past.

What dose did you try with the prozac? If you decide to ask your Dr

for it, I Hope you have better results with it :-)

Just in case you are interested, here is the site I found on side

effects of prozac, it has a link on this page that will take you to

the list of side effects that are listed by the manufacturers

themselves and that is certainly worth taking a look at before taking

it, as with any drug though I guess. I found it really interesting

especially the reference to the hallucinations!.

http://prozac-side-effects.com/index.html

bye for now

> Hello

>

>

> My older sister the Doctor is a big proponent of Prozac. She had

actually sent me boxes full of samples last year and I tried them out

for the hell of it. I don't think it did much for me back then but

now that I'm faced with CHF secondary to Dilated Cardio

> Myopathy, I'm thinking of asking my Doctor for some. I think

that Prozac is usually well tolerated but if your partner is getting

hallucinations, you may want to back off the dosage for six weeks or

so. It stays around in your system for a very long time and it

> could be that the levels are just building up too much.

>

> Regards,

>

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Hi Deb

Thanks for the thoughts,

he didnt tell me that he was getting visual hallucinations until they

got really bad, so I have only known for a few weeks. He has had a

brain scan to eliminate a tumour on the optic nerve, that was neg.

Next he has to have an eeg to see if he is having siezures. My

research showed that it could be the prozac so I thought I would do a

poll here to see if anyone had heard of it.

he does see spots and lights as well, as you did. However, he is also

having full color hallucinations of things that are not there.

He is taking 25 mg per day. He is also on panadeine fortes (up to 8

per day, so quite a lot of codiene)

Yeah it is working better than the zoloft which caused dreadful

diarrhoea for years (and they told him that it wasnt causing that

either, however it stopped when they changed him over to the prozac,

they were also worried about the toxicity issues that surround the

zoloft, and evidently that isnt as much of a problem for prozac, so

we would be reluctant to take him off it unless we were sure that was

what was causing it.

Thanks again for your interest

> I've taken it a few times and can't honestly say I have had visual

> hallucinations other then some spots. First I thought 'no, it can't

> be the prozac causing it if he's been on it for a year and is just

> now having them' but then you add that he's had this problem for 3-

4

> months already. What else is he on? It *could* be the prozac. What

> dose is he at? Is it working for him 'other than' this suspected

> problem?

>

> Deb

[Guest guest]

Yeah you are right there, he has been through that with another anti

depressant he was on a while ago, it was supposed to be easy to

change from one to another, however he got a major

reaction/withdrawel for a couple of weeks, sure wouldnt want to go

through that again!

Thanks Deb :-)

>

> *If* he does decide to back off it a bit, I would advise him to at

> least let the doctor know, and do *NOT* just stop taking it! The

side

> effects from that alone would be horrendous!

>

> Deb

[Guest guest]

Hello

My older sister being a Doctor is a mixed blessing. She tends to do the

sending sample medicines to me stuff way too often, all that does is leave me in

situations where I don't bother to go in to see the Doctor. I've always told

her not to do it and I think she's

getting the message. When she sent me Prozac, it was 20 mg a day.

CHF is Congestive Heart Failure. It means that your heart is no longer capable

of providing the blood flow needed by your body. Typically this doesn't happen

till you're well into your 90's. Cardio Myopathy usually goes undetected

until CHF is experienced.

The textbooks say that 50% of patients die within two years of diagnosis and 70%

die within five years of diagnosis but the statistics are skewed both in age

groups and are outdated by the rapid research in the field.

I think my sister is taking all of this rather hard. She's a general physician

so doesn't normally keep up with the latest on the condition hence the patients

that she has that have the same symptoms as I do, she would tell them they have

two years left to live and

then refers them to a Cardiologist. I think it's also hard for her because she

feels that as a Doctor she should be able to do something.

Regardless, I have been dwelling on my condition somewhat, doing a lot of

research and just letting it sink in. I figure that if having a condition

where you might die within 2 to 5 years isn't worth going to see a Psychologist

and taking anti-depressants than I

don't know what is. On Friday, I told my Doctor this, and he says he's

thrilled I feel that way cause usually they have to twist people's arms to get

them to a therapist. He's recommended a few and he's written out a Prozac

prescription and a Viagra prescription

(I mentioned that I was concerned that most of my meds had male erectile

dysfunction as a side effect and felt that that was indeed happening). I

suspect that I'm probably at the point that I could probably ask for most

" comfort " / " convenience " drugs and get them, I

guess that's one benefit of being seriously sick.

I was just thinking that you may want to temporarily cut back the dosage to 10

mg a day maybe by taking the regular dosage every other day for a few weeks to

see if the hallucinations goes away. The levels actually in the body won't

change quickly as it tends to be

in your system for about five weeks but if the hallucinations are only recent,

it could just be that the concentration built up to a point where it's a

problem. If this is the case, slightly lower doses may be all that's required

to avoid the hallucinations. Talk

to a Doctor about it.

Regards,

rachelvk67@... wrote:

> Hi

> Thanks for the reply :-) Sounds like your sister is handy to have

> around LOL

> What is CHF? Yeah, we have been told that it is generally well

> tolerated too, that is what all the Drs have been saying. He is also

> taking quite large doses of Codiene for pain, I did a search to see

> if the combination of the two could be causing the problems, however

> I didnt find anything to support that.

> However the prozac was listed by the company themselves as causing

> hallucinations for 1 in every 1000 people. I was surprised that they

> obviously didnt think that that was relevant enough to consider that

> could be the cause.

> He cant just back off the prozac unless they wean him onto something

> else, as he was weaned off zoloft onto the prozac (circumstances mean

> that he really needs to be on something at this kind of dose for a

> while yet. He is under enormous stress from a compensation case, to

> be in court in a few weeks after years of waiting, so now is not a

> good time to just reduce the dose)

> I am inclined to think that the symptoms are chemically induced

> rather than stress induced as these hallucinations are really full

> on, and he has not displayed any tendancy towards psychosis in the

> past.

> What dose did you try with the prozac? If you decide to ask your Dr

> for it, I Hope you have better results with it :-)

> Just in case you are interested, here is the site I found on side

> effects of prozac, it has a link on this page that will take you to

> the list of side effects that are listed by the manufacturers

> themselves and that is certainly worth taking a look at before taking

> it, as with any drug though I guess. I found it really interesting

> especially the reference to the hallucinations!.

>

> http://prozac-side-effects.com/index.html

>

> bye for now

>

>

>

> > Hello

> >

> >

> > My older sister the Doctor is a big proponent of Prozac. She had

> actually sent me boxes full of samples last year and I tried them out

> for the hell of it. I don't think it did much for me back then but

> now that I'm faced with CHF secondary to Dilated Cardio

> > Myopathy, I'm thinking of asking my Doctor for some. I think

> that Prozac is usually well tolerated but if your partner is getting

> hallucinations, you may want to back off the dosage for six weeks or

> so. It stays around in your system for a very long time and it

> > could be that the levels are just building up too much.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

>

>

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> > > Hello

> >

> > > CHF is Congestive Heart Failure.

> > Oh, I am really sorry to hear that :-(

> >

> > > The textbooks say that 50% of patients die within two years of

> > diagnosis and 70% die within five years of diagnosis but the

> > statistics are skewed both in age groups and are outdated by the

> > rapid research in the field.

> >

> > Hope they are skewed a bit more in your favour with the current

> > findings? You are doing exactly what I do, research research

> > research. The best way to deal with something. How old are you

> > if you dont mind me asking (I am 34, thought I should add that,

as I

> > am asking your age LOL)

> >

> > > Regardless, I have been dwelling on my condition somewhat,

doing a

> > lot of research and just letting it sink in. I figure that if

> > having a condition where you might die within 2 to 5 years isn't

> > worth going to see a Psychologist and taking anti-depressants

than I

> > > don't know what is.

> >

> > I think that you are very wise to see a psychologist also.

> > >

> > > I was just thinking that you may want to temporarily cut back

the

> > dosage to 10 mg a day maybe by taking the regular dosage every

other

> > day for a few weeks to see if the hallucinations goes away.

> >

> > Ohhh we would be really scared to do that - last time he ended up

> > very emotionally disfuctional when he changed meds. The level

that he

> > is on actually isnt doing as good a job as it could, however the

Drs

> > are reticent to put him on a higher dose. I know he wouldnt agree

to

> > reducing the dose though your suggestion sounds well thought out.

> > However he has a high pressure job, and to maintain his ability to

> > function at work he needs the pain meds and antidepressents - if

he

> > was at home, he could get fragmented and it wouldnt be a drama,

not

> > so good if you are dealing with clients (especially if you are on

the

> > verge of tears all day which is what happened last time)

> >

> > >>>>if the hallucinations are only recent,

> > They have been going on for a few months but he didnt tell me

until

> > about 6 weeks ago, when they started getting worse

> >

> > Thnaks for your advice and interest how are you going, seen

the

> > pyschologist yet?

> >

> >

> > ...

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Hello

Bananas and primates is where I first heard about Seratonin. There was a study

way back where they found that alpha males had higher Seratonin levels. This

was before they had any idea of what Seratonin was for. Everyone got real

excited cause they thought that

this meant you could become more driven and hence more successful by simply

increasing your Seratonin levels. Of course, the concept of how to increase

your Seratonin came up and the answer was to eat more bananas. At this point,

various researchers raised their

hands and said " Wait, do the monkies have higher Seratonin levels because they

are the alpha males and get more bananas or are they alpha males because they

have higher Seratonin levels? " . The whole chicken or the egg concept of those

studies fixed bananas and

Seratonin together in my mind.

The hallucinations are probably because of all those " recreational " drugs from

the past. They do change you and how you react to other drugs. You should

probably talk it over with your Doctor, maybe he can find studies targeting

prior drug abuse. There are

also other SSRI's such as Celexa that might work with less side effects.

The 83% would be for a mere two years, it would probably be as low as 67% for

five years and on down from there. The conventional wisdom is that this

doesn't get better, hopefully convention will be overturned in the next few

years.

Yes, I'm taking the Spironolactone which is the generic name for Aldactone.

As far as side-effects, I've gotten the odd pimple (acne is a side-effect along

with feminization and breast growth) but I haven't noticed any breast growth

yet. It really isn't fair to

put someone through both versions of puberty in one life time. All the drugs

that I take have dizziness as a side-effect so I usually get quite the head rush

when standing up. The diurectics have erectile dysfunction as a side-effect so

I'm difficult to arouse now

except real early in the morning when sometimes I have it the other way around.

I've complained about this inconvenience so my Doctor has prescribed Viagra so

that I still can when I want to, with the caution that sex does cause death for

cardiac patients on

occasions. The Digoxin has hallucinations as a side effect in that your vision

tends towards the yellow and you see halos around everything, the Spironolactone

increases the Digoxin levels making such side-effects more likely. I haven't

seen any halos yet but I

think everything is more yellow than I remember.

Regards,

rachelvk67@... wrote:

>

> > > > Hello

> > >

> > > > CHF is Congestive Heart Failure.

> > > Oh, I am really sorry to hear that :-(

> > >

> > > > The textbooks say that 50% of patients die within two years of

> > > diagnosis and 70% die within five years of diagnosis but the

> > > statistics are skewed both in age groups and are outdated by the

> > > rapid research in the field.

> > >

> > > Hope they are skewed a bit more in your favour with the current

> > > findings? You are doing exactly what I do, research research

> > > research. The best way to deal with something. How old are you

>

> > > if you dont mind me asking (I am 34, thought I should add that,

> as I

> > > am asking your age LOL)

> > >

> > > > Regardless, I have been dwelling on my condition somewhat,

> doing a

> > > lot of research and just letting it sink in. I figure that if

> > > having a condition where you might die within 2 to 5 years isn't

> > > worth going to see a Psychologist and taking anti-depressants

> than I

> > > > don't know what is.

> > >

> > > I think that you are very wise to see a psychologist also.

> > > >

> > > > I was just thinking that you may want to temporarily cut back

> the

> > > dosage to 10 mg a day maybe by taking the regular dosage every

> other

> > > day for a few weeks to see if the hallucinations goes away.

> > >

> > > Ohhh we would be really scared to do that - last time he ended up

> > > very emotionally disfuctional when he changed meds. The level

> that he

> > > is on actually isnt doing as good a job as it could, however the

> Drs

> > > are reticent to put him on a higher dose. I know he wouldnt agree

> to

> > > reducing the dose though your suggestion sounds well thought out.

> > > However he has a high pressure job, and to maintain his ability to

> > > function at work he needs the pain meds and antidepressents - if

> he

> > > was at home, he could get fragmented and it wouldnt be a drama,

> not

> > > so good if you are dealing with clients (especially if you are on

> the

> > > verge of tears all day which is what happened last time)

> > >

> > > >>>>if the hallucinations are only recent,

> > > They have been going on for a few months but he didnt tell me

> until

> > > about 6 weeks ago, when they started getting worse

> > >

> > > Thnaks for your advice and interest how are you going, seen

> the

> > > pyschologist yet?

> > >

> > >

> > > ...

>

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> Hello

>

> Bananas and primates is where I first heard about Seratonin.

There was a study way back where they found that alpha males had

higher Seratonin levels.

****LOL, well if Tim eats more bananas then he will become an alpha

male? I like the sound of that! LOL, with everything going on at the

moment, seems that I am alpha around here - would be happpy to take

it in turns though! That was really interesting , thanks for

sharing that. Will be buying more bananas from now on!

>

> The hallucinations are probably because of all those " recreational "

drugs from the past. They do change you and how you react to other

drugs.

**Guess that could be so, however I wouldnt have expected a reaction

like this to take 12 months to happen, if he was going to get

hallucinations from taking the prozac due to previous drug exposure,

then you would have noticed it before now surely?? What do you think?

You should probably talk it over with your Doctor, maybe he can find

studies targeting prior drug abuse.

LOL!!!! The only one doing any study here is me! Tims Dr and

psychologist both told him that NO ONE gets hallucinations from

prozac, I was unconvinced and there it was, very clearly linked to

it, and accepted by the manufacturer also. I told Tim, he told the

Drs, and then they said " Oh OK then, it might be the prozac after

all, but we still think that it is a severe stress reaction "

There are

> also other SSRI's such as Celexa that might work with less side

effects.

*****Havent heard of this one, thanks, will do some research into

this.

>

> The 83% would be for a mere two years, it would probably be as low

as 67% for five years and on down from there. The conventional

wisdom is that this doesn't get better, hopefully convention will be

overturned in the next few years.

*****Well, that is the pits, . It really sucks. Only good thing

is that you are not getting any nasty side effects from the drugs. Do

you have a supportive family/friends, I sure hope so. How is the

psychologist working out?

It really isn't fair to

> put someone through both versions of puberty in one life time.

*****, I can relate to this! I have poly-cystic ovaries. Basically

that means that at some stage my ovaries wont function properly, and

I will not produce the right amount of female hormones. It hasnt

happened yet, but I keep getting cold sweats thinking about getting

hairy, and putting on weight (the two most common masculinising side

effects) Oh, and the voice can become deeper - that is the only side

effect that I could live with. I have always wanted one of those sexy

husky voices LOL Right now, I am pretty skinny with no chest hair,

and I am happy to stay that way!!!!!

All the drugs that I take have dizziness as a side-effect so I

usually get quite the head rush when standing up.

*****Oh so we do have something else in common, I have menieres, so

am often really dizzy (sometimes amusement ride dizzy)

The diurectics have erectile dysfunction as a side-effect

*****Hmmm, well that is something that we dont have in common

so I'm difficult to arouse now

***on second thoughts.........LOL

my Doctor has prescribed Viagra so that I still can when I want to,

with the caution that sex does cause death for cardiac patients on

> occasions.

***Yeah but what a way to go! (sorry) That would be awful, to be

worried about your heart during sex. I am sure that it would keep me

celibate.

The Digoxin has hallucinations as a side effect in that your

vision tends towards the yellow and you see halos around everything,

**Another thing we have in common, I get halos around everything

particulary at night, due to my eye condition. Although it is pretty

at times, it does make night driving really hard when at its worst.

Funny how so many different health probs, can share the same symptoms.

Talk to you soon

:-)

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Hello

Well, I did say that it was inconclusive if having the high seratonin resulted

in alpha male behaviour or if it was because the alpha males simply got to the

bananas first that their seratonin levels were high. Besides, I tried eating a

lot of bananas when I first

heard of it, you get sick of bananas fast...

Of course, now I'm eating a whole bunch of bananas for the potassium since low

potassium levels results in aching muscles and diurectics tend to result in low

potassium. Mind you, the Aldactone (Spironolactone) is supposed to cause

potassium to build up in your

system.

How you react to drugs do change over time. I would guess that if he did

something like LSD which just opens up the perception channels wide open, those

same channels would tend to open up more easily later on and may do so with

higher seratonin or higher dopamine

levels (just a guess here). It takes Prozac a long time to build up to steady

state levels, it may have taken a while for it to affect the areas weakened by

prior drug use. A lot of what goes on with the brain is still a complete

mystery so I wouldn't consider the

12 months delay as a counter-indication of complications with prior drug use.

Most of my family and friends are two thousand miles away in Canada. This whole

CHF thing has gotten to think a lot about where I am in relation to where my

family and friends are. During my last session with my psychologist, I

mentioned that my sister had melted

the drip tray of my Foreman frill so I was thinking of going to a pottery

class to make a replacement drip tray. She jumped all over that as a good

idea, I guess she figures I need to go out and meet more people.

Yeah, the Aldactone (Spironolactone) is an anti-androgynen and reduces Testerone

production down to female levels (sometimes lower) at which point the body's

natural estrogen starts playing a more pronounce role, hence breast growth. It

also causes hair growth,

deepening of the voice and acne. I guess if it works out to just be pert

little teenie breasts that don't show through my work shirts, it might be fun

but I'll bet that as with all side effects, it tends to one extreme or another.

Oh well, no point worrying about

side effects that haven't happened yet.

Yesterday, at the grocery store, I stooped down to get something off the lower

shelves and stood up too fast. Everything actually went dim briefly as well as

getting hit by the dizziness. Quite an experience, I can just see it now,

driving along, hit a bump and

black out from the negative G, that's something that I could do without.

I don't think it will keep me celibate. My first thoughts when I was diagnosed

is damn, I should've gone for more sex in my life. To be fair, I haven't

really done the usual horndog chasing after women thing in my life and being

faced with maybe not living too

much longer, my first thoughts were that I shouldn't have worried about being so

nice and polite and should've just gone after the girls more. I did go through

a couple of weeks of going after every opportunity possible after the diagnosis

and after the initial bed

rest stage, probably did three time as much during those two weeks as I did in

my whole lifetime. Of course my pocket book is worse for wear now and I'm

tiring of hearing " Don't die on me. " . The pity party is mostly over, it's time

to focus on things that really

matter.

If there's really really very little light, I would see pools of blue purple

swirling around objects and basically filling out their contours but I think

that's just the rod / cone thing where the ones responsible for colour vision

are firing sporadically because

there's not enough light for them while the black and white guys are still

working to give you night vision. The digitalis toxicity thing is supposed to

be yellow halos around everything, sometimes I think I'm seeing that but I'm not

sure especially since so much of

the office is this sickly yellow beige theme. I've always seen a little bit of

strangeness close to objects and people, more like something just touching water

type of strangeness.

Night driving used to involve a lot of streaks of light from the street lights

for me but that's because my left eye is severely near sighted (20/80), my right

eye compensates (20/15) but they make me wear glasses in Texas. I didn't have

to wear glasses in

Alberta. The light streaks are a lot less with the glasses on. Interesting

that people missing an eye get to drive without glasses but I still have to wear

glasses even though my right eye is better than normal but then again this is

the State where the drive

through ATM's have instructions in braille.

Regards,

rachelvk67@... wrote:

>

> > Hello

> >

> > Bananas and primates is where I first heard about Seratonin.

> There was a study way back where they found that alpha males had

> higher Seratonin levels.

>

> ****LOL, well if Tim eats more bananas then he will become an alpha

> male? I like the sound of that! LOL, with everything going on at the

> moment, seems that I am alpha around here - would be happpy to take

> it in turns though! That was really interesting , thanks for

> sharing that. Will be buying more bananas from now on!

>

> >

> > The hallucinations are probably because of all those " recreational "

> drugs from the past. They do change you and how you react to other

> drugs.

>

> **Guess that could be so, however I wouldnt have expected a reaction

> like this to take 12 months to happen, if he was going to get

> hallucinations from taking the prozac due to previous drug exposure,

> then you would have noticed it before now surely?? What do you think?

>

> You should probably talk it over with your Doctor, maybe he can find

> studies targeting prior drug abuse.

> LOL!!!! The only one doing any study here is me! Tims Dr and

> psychologist both told him that NO ONE gets hallucinations from

> prozac, I was unconvinced and there it was, very clearly linked to

> it, and accepted by the manufacturer also. I told Tim, he told the

> Drs, and then they said " Oh OK then, it might be the prozac after

> all, but we still think that it is a severe stress reaction "

>

> There are

> > also other SSRI's such as Celexa that might work with less side

> effects.

>

> *****Havent heard of this one, thanks, will do some research into

> this.

> >

> > The 83% would be for a mere two years, it would probably be as low

> as 67% for five years and on down from there. The conventional

> wisdom is that this doesn't get better, hopefully convention will be

> overturned in the next few years.

>

> *****Well, that is the pits, . It really sucks. Only good thing

> is that you are not getting any nasty side effects from the drugs. Do

> you have a supportive family/friends, I sure hope so. How is the

> psychologist working out?

>

> It really isn't fair to

> > put someone through both versions of puberty in one life time.

>

> *****, I can relate to this! I have poly-cystic ovaries. Basically

> that means that at some stage my ovaries wont function properly, and

> I will not produce the right amount of female hormones. It hasnt

> happened yet, but I keep getting cold sweats thinking about getting

> hairy, and putting on weight (the two most common masculinising side

> effects) Oh, and the voice can become deeper - that is the only side

> effect that I could live with. I have always wanted one of those sexy

> husky voices LOL Right now, I am pretty skinny with no chest hair,

> and I am happy to stay that way!!!!!

>

> All the drugs that I take have dizziness as a side-effect so I

> usually get quite the head rush when standing up.

>

> *****Oh so we do have something else in common, I have menieres, so

> am often really dizzy (sometimes amusement ride dizzy)

>

> The diurectics have erectile dysfunction as a side-effect

>

> *****Hmmm, well that is something that we dont have in common

>

> so I'm difficult to arouse now

>

> ***on second thoughts.........LOL

>

> my Doctor has prescribed Viagra so that I still can when I want to,

> with the caution that sex does cause death for cardiac patients on

> > occasions.

>

> ***Yeah but what a way to go! (sorry) That would be awful, to be

> worried about your heart during sex. I am sure that it would keep me

> celibate.

>

> The Digoxin has hallucinations as a side effect in that your

> vision tends towards the yellow and you see halos around everything,

>

> **Another thing we have in common, I get halos around everything

> particulary at night, due to my eye condition. Although it is pretty

> at times, it does make night driving really hard when at its worst.

> Funny how so many different health probs, can share the same symptoms.

> Talk to you soon

> :-)

>

>

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