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, congratulations on quitting smoking. I know from experience

that that is quite a feat. I quit a little over 11 years ago. I didn't

gain weight when I quit. So weight gain is not mandatory. I needed

mouth activity, though, so I chewed gum. Sugarless. Still do. Just

don't substitute more food for the cigarettes. Good luck! Sue

On Thursday, August 4, 2005, at 04:03 PM, brenda3005@... wrote:

> I actually even bought a multi-vitamin last month-- and ate everything

> except for the wallpaper. Couldn't believe the appetite it gave me--

> and all I

> can think of is the Dr. that told me not to gain another pound because

> of my

> knees and of course expecting to gain weight from not smoking too.

> Haven't had

> the nerve to get on the scales.

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The good news that you quit smoking:) It is hard to stop smoking, I

have been there, hope it gets easier. My Mom smoked for 50yrs if you

can believe it, and quit about 3 months ago, and she did it

with, " smoke away " I was really shocked it worked.

I have noticed that I don't eat a lot of meat either. I do tend to

find things easy to make too, and sometimes that doesn't help the

diet:( Just take things one day at a time.

Good luck, Tawny

> I too would like to know more about the diet-- I tried the link but

always

> hate to buy something else to add to all the other stuff on the

bookshelf that

> hasn't helped. This may be my own negative thinking :(.

>

> I can't imagine living like this forever but sometimes get

scared when I

> think of the alternatives LOL. I did have one lady from

California that

> believes she " cured " herself of 3 types of arthritis just by not

eating any

> processed food, red meat or taking any medication.

> So far I quit smoking a month ago-- its still driving me nuts but

red meat

> is a rarity here.

> Mainly because I feel too bad to cook LOL. The processed food now

is

> another story-- its usually my weakness --like TV dinners. I admit

to needing a

> nutrition overhaul big time.

> I actually even bought a multi-vitamin last month-- and ate

everything

> except for the wallpaper. Couldn't believe the appetite it gave me-

- and all I

> can think of is the Dr. that told me not to gain another pound

because of my

> knees and of course expecting to gain weight from not smoking

too. Haven't had

> the nerve to get on the scales.

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi All,

See the below information in a " Diet Wars FRONTLINE " .

The words of " Dr. Kenney, chief nutritionist of

the Pritikin Longevity Center " rang true for me in

" CHAPTER ONE Into the Breach " .

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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/diet/

posted april 8, 2004

View the full 60 minute program in Windows Media and

RealPlayer.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

In " Diet Wars, " FRONTLINE examines the great diet

debate. Viewers follow FRONTLINE correspondent Steve

Talbot, whose discovery that those " few extra pounds "

have put him perilously close to the clinical

definition of obesity prompts him to evaluate the

myriad diets now available to overweight Americans.

" America has become the fattest nation on earth, "

Talbot says. " About two-thirds of the American

population is overweight, and of those, half are

already obese. The diet industry is the visible sign

of a looming public health problem. "

How did America get so fat in recent years? " Diet

Wars " explores the social, cultural, and dietary

factors that have led to the fattening of America,

while also examining how the medical and diet

industries have responded to consumers' desire to lose

weight. The documentary examines how concerns in the

early 1960s that Americans were eating too much animal

fat and cholesterol prompted doctors to begin

recommending that patients reduce the amount of fat in

their diets. The problem, some observers say, is that

the low-fat recommendations failed to distinguish

between the so-called " good fats " -- unsaturated

vegetable and fish oils -- and the " bad fats " --

saturated animal fats -- associated with clogged

arteries, heart disease, and other health problems.

" Somehow, we got this notion that, 'Aha! If we take

the fat out of foods we will be able to reduce the

total caloric intake and people will be able to

control their weight,' " says Tufts University

Nutrition Professor Dr. Jeanne Goldberg. " And so

industry got very busy making low-fat, reduced-fat,

fat-free products… . "

Soon, low-fat and fat-free products flooded the

marketplace, as did high-profile low-fat diets like

Pritikin and Ornish. In " Diet Wars, " Talbot's search

for the perfect diet takes him from a Weight Watchers

pep rally -- where spokeswoman " Fergie " Ferguson

revs up the audience of faithful followers -- to

several low-fat diet centers, where proponents extol

the virtues of their respective plans.

" The Pritikin Diet is basically a healthy diet.

Pritikin didn't start as a weight loss program -- it

started as a way to reverse heart disease, high blood

pressure, diabetes, " says Dr. Kenney, chief

nutritionist of the Pritikin Longevity Center. " What

makes eating healthy in America difficult is that most

restaurant foods -- particularly fast restaurant food

-- is designed to make people fat and sick. "

So popular did the low-fat craze become that in 1992

the U.S. Department of Agriculture introduced its

much-vaunted food pyramid guidelines that recommended

Americans lay off the fat and load up on grains and

cereals, which are carbohydrates.

But there was a problem. During the 1990s, despite the

new guidelines and the glut of low-fat and fat-free

products available, Americans got even fatter. While

most experts agree that Americans' increasingly

sedentary lifestyle and fondness for fast food

contributed to the nation's growing girth, others

postulate that the low-fat label misled consumers into

believing that such products contained fewer calories,

causing them to eat even more.

" The low-fat message was interpreted as if you had a

product that was lower in fat it was good for you

without thinking of calories, " says Professor n

Nestle of New York University's Department of

Nutrition, Food Studies & Public Health. " The best

example is the Snackwell phenomenon: Snackwell cookies

were advertised as low-fat cookies but they had almost

the same number of calories. "

Nutritionists also note that in order to make products

low-fat, companies had to replace the fat with

something else -- usually carbohydrates.

Enter Dr. Atkins and the low-carb diet craze currently

sweeping the nation. Whereas low-fat diets like

Pritikin and Ornish warned followers against eating

high-fat foods like steak and eggs, Atkins followers

avoided the carbohydrates that are the mainstay of a

low-fat lifestyle.

Not surprisingly, low-carb diets have come under

attack by everyone from low-fat diet proponents to

scientists and the media. In " Diet Wars, " Talbot

speaks with science journalist Taubes, who wrote

a controversial article for The New York Times

Magazine that questioned whether the food pyramid was

wrong and limiting carbohydrates was the way to go.

" I got crucified in a variety of publications, " Taubes

tells FRONTLINE. " A Washington Post reporter went

after me, the Center for Science in the Public

Interest went after me … because suddenly I turned

around and said, 'Maybe low-fat diets don't work and

maybe low-carbohydrate diets are the answer.' "

Taubes admits to being surprised by the ferocity with

which his article was attacked. " People are more

polarized on this than they are in politics, " he says.

" I'm stunned. "

What most nutritionists and industry experts do agree

on is the fact that America is facing an obesity

problem of epidemic proportions.

" This is the public health issue of our generation, "

says Dr. Hill, director of the University of

Colorado's Center for Human Nutrition. " [When] you see

65 percent of Americans are overweight or obese, what

amazes me is that anyone maintains a healthy weight in

this environment. "

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

CHAPTER ONE

Into the Breach

After years of caloric build-up, FRONTLINE's Steve

Talbot begins his diet quest: Is it Pritikin? Atkins?

Weight Watchers?

CHAPTER TWO

The " Low-Fat " Paradox

How Americans got fatter than ever in the " low-fat "

era of the '90s, and how the Atkins Diet claimed to

solve the problem.

CHAPTER THREE

But How to Keep It Off?

A look at the diet of the moment, South Beach. And why

all diets work at first - but odds are you eventually

gain back the weight.

CHAPTER FOUR

The Crisis for Our Children

In the fattening of America, the most disturbing part

is the surge in overweight kids. Is there a way to

reverse this trend?

CHAPTER FIVE

Epilogue

Did correspondent Steve Talbot discover the perfect

diet and shed the pounds? And, at the end of his

quest, what has he learned?

-- Al Pater, alpater@...

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, I've had great success with the Herbalife Weight Loss Program.

Lots of high quality nutrition, and affordable. I call it a LIVE-it

not a diet! LOL Check out their website for more info.

Otherwise, I just cut out most meat, all dairy, pastas, breads, and

lay heavy on the fruits, nuts and veggies. Brown rice is a fave of

mine, also.

>

> Ok Girls only 3 or 4 months till summer time is here...Zone, Atkins,

Weight

> Watchers etc...and all the diet pills out....what have some of you

had luck

> with ? I've been walking on the treadmill 2 miles a day and doing

the AB

> machine... but I got to get off these 25 lbs I have gained. Thanks

>

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