Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 On Nov 29, 2006, at 8:47 AM, japg_2000 wrote: > According to Professor Corder of the Harvey Research > Institute (part of St Bartholomew Hospital of the London School of > Medicine) > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/main.jhtml?xml=/health/2006/11/27/ > nosplit/hwinediet27.xml > > He also claims that the amount of resveratrol in wine is too small to > cause any effect on health, an amount of 1500 litres of wine/day would > be required. > > I have been a long time lurker and a CR follower. Only today I found > something to contribute. > > Warm regards to all > > Jay Interesting article (as articles in _The Telegraph_ go). If the author is right about procyanidins and Tannat grapes perhaps we should toss the Pinot Noir and look at relatively cheap imports from Uruguay (typically 100% Tannat far as I know)? re: 1500 liters per diem, it was recently suggested that a mere 25 bottles (18.75 liters) of a typical Pinot Noir a day would suffice for supplying a healthful level of resveratrol. I wonder how much science is behind these estimates? LCook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 The news made the Scientific American website: http://www.sciam.com/print_version.cfm?articleID=356161C7-E7F2-99DF-3CD9171A34A9BC3F _/)~~~~~~~~~Tom, of the Sweetwater Sea " I pledge allegiance to... Liberty and Justice for All " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 > Flavan-3-ols are the most abundant, with oligomeric > and polymeric procyanidins (condensed tannins) often > representing 25–50% of the total phenolic > constituents8. These tannins are not only found in red wine, but also in abundance in tea (green abd black), Pomegranates, Persimmons and Cranberries. Hence, the " tartness " of each of these. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 At 04:57 PM 11/29/2006, you wrote: The news made the Scientific American website: http://www.sciam.com/print_version.cfm?articleID=356161C7-E7F2-99DF-3CD9171A34A9BC3F Excellent news. It should keep the price of Longevinex from going up too much too soon. ;-) Seriously, that one might work well on endothelial cells doesn't imply the other doesn't work systematically at the cellular level to support a CR-mimetic effect; different pathways would be in effect, and that the procyanidins were related to endothelial cell health alone--which wasn't what resveratrol has been shown to affect, anyway. Corder's claim about resveratrol inavailability and needing to drink thousands of glasses of red wine seems a bit " old news " misinformed to me. I think the fish studies, unmentioned (and, of course, likely unknown by the author) in this article by yet another pan-flash-following " science writer, " are interesting, and I think I'll stick with my large glass of red each day--to wash down a Longevinex capsule. But I'll relish the tannins more now as I do so. ;-) Maco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 > > > Interesting article (as articles in _The Telegraph_ go). If the > author is right about procyanidins and Tannat grapes perhaps we > should toss the Pinot Noir and look at relatively cheap imports from > Uruguay (typically 100% Tannat far as I know)? Do they also live long in Uruquay in the wine region? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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