WAAAAAY OT: Our times (a historical perspective :)

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Prove it.

We all:

" saw " a giant lizard, giant ape, etc. stomping through New York City,

" saw " live dinosaurs in Jurassic Park on an Island, and

" saw " a Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade balloon actually sitting next to and

talking with former president at the Democratic Convention.

(Dr. Abrahamson, D.C.)

p.s. If you can't laugh, you are doomed to a life of anger and tears.

-Ben lin or Abraham Lincoln

On 11/9/04 5:48 PM, " DeSiena " <adesienadc@...> wrote:

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> Apollos 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, and 17 landed on the moon.

> DeSiena

> --- " Dr. Glenn F. Gumaer " <gfgdc@...>

> wrote:

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>> UNCLE!

>>

>> Glenn F. Gumaer, D.C.

>> Re: OT: Our times

>>

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>> In a message dated 11/8/2004 7:00:29 AM US

>> Mountain Standard Time, vas@... writes:

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>>

>> The war in Viet Nam was not lost in the

>> rice paddies but instead was lost in the hearts and

>> minds of the American people, when, as Ho Chi Min

>> anticipated, some of the people failed to unite

>> behind their government, and instead took to the

>> streets to undermine the efforts of that government.

>>

>>

>>

>> It was lost when we began the war. I

>> think all wars are lost when we do not defend

>> outselves but are the agressor. If all US citizens

>> had shouted a big hurrah for the war effort we still

>> would have lost. The people protesting the war were

>> not trying to undermine the efforts of the

>> government ( " Hey Fred, what shall we do today? " " I

>> don't know Mike, hey lets go undermine the

>> governments efforts " .) The people were protesting

>> many things other than that : 1) a country that

>> feels it is so much better than all the others that

>> it has a right to meddle in other countries business

>> - to use their weapons of mass destruction on others

>> , 2) they protested seeing their sons die in a war

>> of aggression - not one in which we were defending

>> ourselves since we had not been attacked, 3) they

>> protested a war which was obviously prolonged simply

>> to make money for the war industry - the blood of

>> the soldiers of that time bought fancy cars and

>> boats for the CEOs

>>

>> They were not against the country - they

>> were for a righteous and inevitable movement by the

>> country out of Viet Nam. After the rich had glutted

>> had fatted themselves enough on the blood of our

>> dead soldiers, and after the gov't leaders could no

>> longer deny it was a lost effort ( after a decade of

>> such denial) our president did what had to happen

>> anyway - we pulled out of viet nam.

>>

>> I am not a pacifist by any means - but I

>> believe in fighting a righteous war. Fighting when

>> we are attacked for one thing - even if we fight to

>> the last man. But this war will end like viet nam -

>> we will pull out - probably much like the last

>> flight out of viet nam - with our soldiers rushing

>> to get on the last plane out while the enemy over

>> runs the gates and conquers the city. Unless we use

>> nuclear or chemical warfare (which would be ironic

>> if we used ourt WMD that we supposedly thought Iraq

>> had) we will do the same at some point - recognize

>> the futility of the war, pull out and run while the

>> enemy takes over - mayhem ensues and we are laughed

>> at by our enemy. But after the mayhem Iraq like

>> Viet nam will do what we should have allowed them to

>> do all along - take care of their own business and

>> things will work out in some way. Then like Viet Nam

>> we will become friends with Iraq and many people

>> will travel there - some who are soldiers trying to

>> find

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