Re: Kids with High IQs Grow Up to be Vegetarians

[Guest guest]

Vegetarians were more likely to be female,

to be of higher social class

I think these type of studies really are not helpful. Big surprise that

vegetarians tend to be of a higher social class. What a revelation.

Those of a higher social class have a higher IQ. what a revelation.

When you have no control groups, these kind of studies really prove

nothing.

For example those that exercise are in general healthier. But is it

this, or is it that those who are healthier exercise?

33% of " vegetarians " eat chicken and fish. How intelligent are they if

they do not know that this means they are not vegetarian?

Well enough of a rant for today I suppose.

Personally I think that Walford's food pyramid is the most helpful and

best way to eat, now all I have to do is start doing it!

Positive Dennis

[Guest guest]

At 10:06 PM 12/15/2006, you wrote:

>If kids with high IQs grow up to be vegetarians, does that mean that

>vegetarians grow up to have high IQs?

>

>I doubt it. I think that it is fairly well established that

>intelligence is more hereditary than due to what you eat, although

>some forms of mental retardation are caused by dietary imbalances. If

>vegetarianism could raise IQ, the poor people of the world who grow up

>on beans, rice, tortillas and chilies would be intellectual

>luminaries, but that is not the case.

Of course. The news piece only demostrates the poor scientific thinking

held by the press and by most of its readers.

Similarly, the link between breastfeeding and higher-IQ kids/people has

been shown to be entirely due to the IQs of the parents rather than through

a postnatal environmental influence: early studies had used maternal

education as a [very weak and faulty] proxy for heritable IQ.

That smart people choose to become vegetarians is a completely different

matter from whether vegetarianism might somehow enhance intelligence.

Maco [23-year, now reformed vegetarian]

[Guest guest]

I did not see anywhere in the article an implication that vegetarians

develop higher IQs. The conclusion of the study was that kids who had

high IQs became vegetarians at a higher rate than kids with lower IQs.

How could that imply that vegetarianism enhanced intelligence?

The report merely concludes that smart people become vegetarians more

often than the general public.

- Diane

>

> >If kids with high IQs grow up to be vegetarians, does that mean that

> >vegetarians grow up to have high IQs?

> >

> >I doubt it. I think that it is fairly well established that

> >intelligence is more hereditary than due to what you eat, although

> >some forms of mental retardation are caused by dietary imbalances. If

> >vegetarianism could raise IQ, the poor people of the world who grow up

> >on beans, rice, tortillas and chilies would be intellectual

> >luminaries, but that is not the case.

>

> Of course. The news piece only demostrates the poor scientific thinking

> held by the press and by most of its readers.

>

> Similarly, the link between breastfeeding and higher-IQ kids/people has

> been shown to be entirely due to the IQs of the parents rather than

through

> a postnatal environmental influence: early studies had used maternal

> education as a [very weak and faulty] proxy for heritable IQ.

>

> That smart people choose to become vegetarians is a completely

different

> matter from whether vegetarianism might somehow enhance intelligence.

>

> Maco [23-year, now reformed vegetarian]

>

[Guest guest]

At 10:38 AM 12/18/2006, you wrote:

>I did not see anywhere in the article an implication that vegetarians

>develop higher IQs. The conclusion of the study was that kids who had

>high IQs became vegetarians at a higher rate than kids with lower IQs.

>How could that imply that vegetarianism enhanced intelligence?

Most of the coverage of the study implied that.

>The report merely concludes that smart people become vegetarians more

>often than the general public.

Correct. That's not how it's been broadly reported or (mis-) interpreted.

Maco