Guest guest Posted December 20, 2004 Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 Ted; Since your patient has been through a complete workup at OHSU and they have given up after ruling out relevant pathology, maybe it is time to consider something completely different. From the perspective of NeuroModulation Technique (www.nmtseminars), this history is not necessarily mysterious. Is it possible that irritation of the diaphragm and/or phrenic nerve during delivery or late pregnancy could produce a facilitated sensory/motor pathway that perpetuates the cough? I think it is quite possible and that once produced the coughing would be ongoing and require little provocation to trigger it. The NMT protocol is able to identify if this is the case and your patient may see that a handful of NMT session resolves the problem. There are several experienced NMT practitioners who are DCs in the Portland area, Drs. Knecht, Greg Ross, and Greenbaum. We all relate to that which we are familiar with. When a person develops a lot of skill in the various mechanistic or nutritional approaches to problems that is the prism through which they tend to view things. The results we see with NMT are quite profound, even if our view of cause and correction may be difficult to understand. This sure sounds like a situation in which NMT may resolve the cough very well, and without any risk of invasive procedures. The patient has already tried everything else. Best regards, S. Feinberg, D.C. Post Pardum Cough Dear Doc's, I had a phone call regarding a 45yr female that has developed a nonproductive cough subsequent to giving birth to her last child over seven years ago. OHSU has been testing her and has given up. They have ruled out reflux, sinus, nasal or lung pathology. Does any one have any ideas? Ted Ted Forcum, DC, DACBSP, FICC, CSCS Medical Director, 2005 Portland US Figure Skating Championships Back In Motion Sports Injuries Clinic, LLC 11385 SW Scholls Ferry Road Beaverton, Oregon 97008 OregonDCs rules: 1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve members will be tolerated. 2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name. 3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere. However, it is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward, or otherwise distribute correspondence written by another member without his or her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2004 Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 Ted, One of my kids had a non-productive cough for a long time. We had great luck with IgG4 food allergy testing. It requires about 5 cc. of serum to test 96 foods. She went off the foods which were reactive and viola' (French for " WE SURRENDER! " ) she quit coughing. Then if she went through a period of eating lots of i.e. wheat, dairy (pizza and birthday cake) her eyes would develop dark circles and within a couple of days she would start coughing (with night leg cramps and nose bleeds as well in her case). This is a long term reaction test and is more sensitive than skin scatching, subcutaneous injections, etc. Great Smokies and several labs out here do it. (Dr. Abrahamson, D.C.) 315 Second St. Lake Oswego, OR 97034 phone (503)635-6246 website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com Post Pardum Cough > > Dear Doc's, > I had a phone call regarding a 45yr female that has developed a > nonproductive cough subsequent to giving birth to her last child over > seven years ago. OHSU has been testing her and has given up. They have > ruled out reflux, sinus, nasal or lung pathology. Does any one have any > ideas? > Ted > > Ted Forcum, DC, DACBSP, FICC, CSCS > Medical Director, 2005 Portland US Figure Skating Championships > Back In Motion Sports Injuries Clinic, LLC > 11385 SW Scholls Ferry Road > Beaverton, Oregon 97008 > > > > OregonDCs rules: > 1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve members will be tolerated. > 2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name. > 3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere. However, it is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward, or otherwise distribute correspondence written by another member without his or her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2004 Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 In a message dated 12/20/2004 1:53:27 PM US Mountain Standard Time, drscott@... writes: We had great luck with IgG4 food allergy testing. Sage testing tests all the allergic pathways (IgG, IgM, IgA, IgD, and complement 1 and complement 2) pathways all at once for about the same price - these are all the delayed pathways. It does not test IgE - inherited immediate onset allergies, which can be tested by skin scratch testing, but which is usually unecessary since the onset of symptoms of IgE type 1 allergies is usually immediate (within 20 minutes), and thus known instinctively by the time someone is very young ("Can't eat tomatoes they dont agree with me). Sage is often about the same price as or other blood testing. However Sage uses whole blood and not serum. Anglen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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