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In a message dated 10/7/2004 7:39:11 PM US Mountain Standard Time,

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This next phase of his life is what has always scared me to death and now it

is right around the corner and rapidly approaching.

I SO agree with that. Maverick will be in HIGH SCHOOL next year and I really

worry about what his future will be like. He has his goals..to be a cop and

a basketball player, but the reality of what is out there for him is NOT

something that he is going to understand. I am saddened when I think that I am

going to have to be the one to shatter his dreams....and feel overwhelmed when I

think that at the same time, I have to find something that will look exciting

to him that is within his, and societies limits.

Even worrying about whether to have him going to school after the rest of his

class graduates bothers me. UGH.

However, I agree with you, as I stated before that Cheryl's article was well

written and informative and inspiring.

M.

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Finally was able to find time to sit down and read the last issue of Disability

Solutions. Cheryl, great article on . I have to say, I came away from

reading it with a feeling of being overwhelmed. is approaching age 17 at

the end of this month and so much still needs to be done to prepare him for

adulthood. Where I get hung up is right at the beginning, LOL, where everyone

states that you must ask your child what he wants to do. What if your child

cannot communicate that with you?

speaks just fine, but he really has no concept of " the future " and setting

goals for himself. So where do you begin when that is the case? I know he is

sociable and loves to be around other people, but anytime I ask him what job he

would like to have or what he wants to do he looks at me cluelessly. I'm so

amazed at these wonderful young adults with DS who are able to advocate for

themselves, and I feel bad that can't at this point. He is too " carefree "

and he just goes with the flow and is never unhappy with where he is at or what

he is doing.

I've been guided by special education teachers all through 's school days

and he has always loved going to school. Glancing over the checklist in that

issue of the newsletter, I see many areas needs to improve on.......but

everything takes sooooooooooooo long for him to accomplish, but at least I can

start there and work on the things he still can't do independently.

This next phase of his life is what has always scared me to death and now it is

right around the corner and rapidly approaching. There are not enough hours in

a day or days in week to set the things in motion that I would really like to

try. I guess I will have to figure it out somehow. This issue was wonderful

and is a great resource for me now.

Jackie, Mom to 16ds, 14, and Bradley 10

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I think the time factor is one reason why I am so jealous of people living in

Minnesota .... isn't that where the young adults can stay in public school until

age 26?!?!??!

I hope you saw that some of our " planning " was really just luck! Stef took

courses when she started high school that came in handy later on.

But many schools have work experience style programs, where kids " try out "

different jobs ... as a way to familiarize themselves with what is involved and

a way to see if they have the skills and desire to look further in those fields.

Another good option for some is to look at what volunteer jobs are available at

school (not talking about table cleaning here!) and start the students

participating in those.

School supply stores, office work, in house coffee shops, shelving books in the

library ... look and see what opportunities are available in the school.

Yep, high school and beyond pretty scarey. The future we always thought was so

far off arrives pretty fast!!

Cheryl in VA

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> This next phase of his life is what has always scared me to death and now

it is right around the corner and rapidly approaching.

Same here Jackie - but 's next phase is middle school. This is a kid

who doesn't handle transitions well. In addition to this big change, he will

also be the only child at home. He'll only be there for 2 years, then he

will move to the Intermediate School, which is right across the street. I

can see him sneaking out and coming home!

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From where you are with 17 year old, you need to step back. Most of

our children that age have hardly declared their adult personalitiies.

Both my aspirations for Janet and hers have changed very much from that

time. Jan wants to be a cop or a soldier or a rock star or a woman

wrestler, even today if you ask her .. or even better a movie star. Of

course I wanted to be an inventor as famous and successful as I thought

Edison was.

Because when Jan was 17, she was compliant and often a good worker, I

missed the personality traits that make her a poor employee in the long

run. She starts enthusiastically, but eventually is bored or decides to

do things her way rather than the way her supervisor wants. She is just

back to her independent life, and time will tell how things work out

vocationally, but right now she is unemployed.

This summer I went with Jan to Kingsley's 30th birthday party. It

was an opportunity for me to see the kids I'd known up through late

teens, but who I hadn't seen for a decade. They are still just as

wonderful as adults as they were earlier. Their settings range from

living at home to living in a group home. I think that Janet and Mitch

Levitz are the only ones who have thier own apartments and Mitch is very

close to his parents and Jan has a much needed few hours a week of life

skills counselling.

So far as I can tell, none of them is full time employed, but almost

everyone has at least a part time or volunteer job. They are a happy

group.

The big adjustment you have in the next ten years seems to me one of

your re-adjusting your sights. Most of the parents of the young adults

I was with had much bigger aims for their children a decade ago. Today

they are comfortable with where their kids/adults are. We want our kids

to have the normal outcome we vision for all the other kids. Jobs,

independence, marriage, and their own place. The reality is different,

but it is a place where our kids are comfortable.

I don't currently place much credibility on inspiring stories where the

outcome isn't yet known. Often much of that is the dreams of the

parents (picked up by their kids) and the reality over time turns out

differently. In discussing adult outcomes with other parents, it has

almost always gone much different from how we imagined it would. Still,

it has gone well.

Rick .. dad to Jan .. now 31 and back to health

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yes, in michigan you can attend school until you are 26. i know this

because its where i live! lol

anyway, my son ben (19ds) is still attending school and this year his class

will be working at businesses in the community. last year he worked at pizza

hut, the food bank and the local arc. they continue to work on life and

academic skills also.

by the way, ben spent the second week of sept in the hospital with

pneumonia, bronchitis and fluid around his heart. they sent him home on

oxygen,

steroids, antibiotics, nebulizer treatments and visiting nurse services. his

oxygen levels were quite low for a long time without oxygen so we had to

continue

with it. it has taken him a really long time to recover from being so sick.

we are just now really seeing a huge difference in the congestion he has

been having. to recap, was in the hospital from sept 14-20, sent home and

three weeks later, finally well again (fingers crossed). if all goes well he

will be back in school tuesday of next week. the nurse will be checking his

pulse ox level at least twice a day and we are sending a portable backpack type

oxygen tank with him just in case he is struggling.

take care all, kerrie

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No.....I think you're thinking of Michigan. Wasn't it Michigan where Amibel (?)

moved so could go to school there and then they found out it really

wasn't the right type of program for her?

Joy

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I think the time factor is one reason why I am so jealous of people living in

Minnesota .... isn't that where the young adults can stay in public school until

age 26?!?!??!

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What grade is in now? Nick's in 4th. He did 3 years of preschool,

1 year of kindergarten, 2 years of 1st grade, 1 year each of 2nd and 3rd

grade. n County is giving me the we need to look at sending him to

Barrackville (they wanted to do it this year but I said no keep him in his home

school) since that is where they educate the kids that test Moderately to

severely

impaired. Nick is testing at the moderate level, though I feel he can do

better if he wouldn't view tests as games.

Gia Deasey (and others) stated their big concern is what to do with Nick at

the Junior high level (7, 8 & 9 here) as the school he currently attends goes

through 6th grade. I think they are pushing to send him to Barrackville

because they can keep him in that school until he is 15 and technically age

level with 10 graders. I hate it partly because he has done so well with the

group of kids he is currently with and he does seem to mimic quite well that

the

thought of sending him into an environment with kids who may have lots of

behaviors we don't want is scarey.

Nick also has a hard time with change in his routine. When they have subs

they see behavior from him they don't see on a daily basis. He also has

problems with 'too many chiefs' trying to direct him (tends to shut down). If

you

give him a heads up to the change he sometimes responds better (less

disruptive behaviors).

Cari

PS sorry to hijack the thread. :)

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Hi ,

You know, Depending on if you intend him to graduate with his class (same age)

at about 17/18 you can do lots of things.

is still in middle school...tho she was in 8th grade last year and she'll

turn 15 this fall. We saw no reason to change her program at this time. We're

not really sure we want to change it next year. (can you say comfy with how

she;s progressing at this time? hehe, if i could I think I'd keep her in this

classroom forever, lol, but that's not realistic)

Maybe you can make a plan for that would eliminate one of the

transitions by keeping him where he is longer and then transitioning to the

intermediate school if that would be easier on everyone. Or maybe the middle

school would be a good option for more then 2 yrs, but remember it's what you

think would work best for . Never forget the I . :-)

Joy

PS what is an intermediate school?

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Same here Jackie - but 's next phase is middle school. This is a kid

who doesn't handle transitions well. In addition to this big change, he will

also be the only child at home. He'll only be there for 2 years, then he

will move to the Intermediate School, which is right across the street. I

can see him sneaking out and coming home!

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> PS what is an intermediate school?

Well in our community, the intermediate school educates kids in 8th and 9th

grade. Our area has grown so fast, that this school was originally designed

to be a middle school, but the high school (which has undergone extensive

expansion) could not handle all four grades. We are getting another new

high school, 2 miles from the other one, and I'm betting that they turn this

one into a middle school, which will be 2 miles from the other middle

school, which will be expanded next year. Whew, talk about a long sentence!

Glad to hear is doing well in her placement. I have no idea what we

will do with next year. Part of me wants to see him move up with

his peers, and the other part of me worries, realistically, that he can't

handle it. I could always ask for a transition plan - it may not be a bad

idea for him to go to the middle school for 1-2 hours a day next spring.

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This is what our school district did, . The would allow the students to

spend about an hour once a week with the new teacher in the new building

was transitioning to. has never had a hard time transitioning.....infact

he was very ready to move on.....got tired of the same teacher faces....LOL. I

would definately push for that if you can.

Jackie

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> grade. Our area has grown so fast, that this school was originally designed

> to be a middle school, but the high school (which has undergone extensive

> expansion) could not handle all four grades. We are getting another new

> high school, 2 miles from the other one, and I'm betting that they turn this

> one into a middle school, which will be 2 miles from the other middle

> school, which will be expanded next year. Whew, talk about a long sentence!

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> Glad to hear is doing well in her placement. I have no idea what we

> will do with next year. Part of me wants to see him move up with

> his peers, and the other part of me worries, realistically, that he can't

> handle it. I could always ask for a transition plan - it may not be a bad

> idea for him to go to the middle school for 1-2 hours a day next spring.

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