Re: Guy: unfelt shocks and ATP (was Re: Re: Amiodarone dose)

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joel i have pasted out only twice in all the shocks i have had i will not say a number as i dont want to scare you ! hwoever my amount is not the normal foreveryone in the ones i pasted out iw as aware of the shocks fcomeing i felt my heart go out and i was alert vai my service dog at the time sean ahead of time ! i have been taken to the hospital only when my icd fires more then once there was one time i paste dout in biglots that they called 911 (they thought i was haveing a seizure but i heard everything they said but was unable to respon ) i pasted out in the hosital one time i ahve even slept though shocks !!! the shocks thimself i thinks is scarey when your awake for thim ! but only for a slipt secound they in thimself dont hurt ! but sometimes you are sore after the shock ! as far as is death

painless i couldnt say although i've coded on thim minny times ! i've even been shocked during a brain sugery the doctor wouldnt listen to me and didnot turn the icd off ! the sugerys after that he did turn it off and apply patches to me incase i needed shocked which ahs happened to ! i ahve every arrythmia just about in the books ! joel to think of it this way death may or may not bee painless however like si painful at time but isnt it better to ahve some pain fro a secoudn or two a life then be painless and die ? shocks are not fun but they are nto painful ! but yes they soemtime can be nerv racking and elave you shaken but not stirred

yes i'm well aware of minny astivie devices as i use some myself such as astive tools to write with ect ! anda wheelchair my mom used to use a hand heald reader but then she cgot a cctv that reads papers and things for her ! there are wide rage of devices ! for all disablities some i myself has foudn useful soem others i know have and some my mom has i have played beeper wheelchair baseball before (my mom used to work and it was at oen of there pinics things she cant work no more !) i'm very intrested in learnign about the support groups you metoned for the blind ! i think my mom might fdidn the support benifical ! i ahve in the past helped trsin gudie dogs as well as service dogs !

stacie,25 and kira shocking life for shocking people

From: Yardbird <yardbird@...>Subject: Guy: unfelt shocks and ATP (was Re: Re: Amiodarone dose) Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 11:25 AM

Guy,The shocks you describe where you seem to be saying that you fainted before the shock occurred, what did that feel like? Were you scared or panicked for a time before you passed out? Did you feel your heart racing the way we would if we were just normal and we were having a panic attack? Thanks you.second, I forget what is ATP. I went to te gloassry in ZAP FAQ, and it's not listed there. what is it. Somethng xxx pacing?Thanks,something very scarcy scarcy befor3e berore a seconed----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Scardina" <guys101att (DOT) net>,Believe it or not, I have never felt a shock. During the first yearafter I got my ICD I had two or three shocks but my heart rate was sohigh that I passed out before the shock. I remember one shockhappened when I was taking out the trash. I had

enough warning to sitdown on the kitchen floor and the next thing I remember was laying onthe floor half in a daze, wondering if I was dead or alive. Anotherhappened while I was walking and also had enough warning to sitbefore I passed out. While sitting on the curb after I regainedconsciousness a guy in a Corvette stopped and asked if I needed help.It was nice of him to give me a ride even though it was only a coupleblocks to my home.The shock that I received last summer was during the night and I wasasleep. I woke up after it happened and realized that something hadjust occured but was not certain what it was until my nextinterrogation.I think somebody already explained what ATP means. I usually feelthem and hope they do not escalate into a shock.

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Hi ,

I'm sorry. I seem to have given the wrong impression. I'm not worried that

an ICD or a heart problem is going to make me more dizzy or anything like

that. I meant I'm under a lot of pain, fatigue and stress from those

problems while I'm trying to make this ICD decision, plus all these things

detract from me being able to do any work, which requires very hard

concentration. Even just the surgery and recovery, and then the anxiety if I

start getting shocked, the whole thing is a disaster in a way I can't

explain well enough, I guess. I'm not resisting the ICD. I'm just learning

everything that I can so I can ask my doctors the right questions and then

I'll choose a time to get the implant.

I hope that's a little more clear. Thanks again for your replies and your

support!

Guy: unfelt shocks and ATP (was Re: Re: Amiodarone dose)

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Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 11:25 AM

Guy,

The shocks you describe where you seem to be saying that you fainted before

the shock occurred, what did that feel like? Were you scared or panicked for

a time before you passed out? Did you feel your heart racing the way we

would if we were just normal and we were having a panic attack? Thanks you.

second, I forget what is ATP. I went to te gloassry in ZAP FAQ, and it's not

listed there. what is it. Somethng xxx pacing?

Thanks,

something very scarcy scarcy befor3e berore a seconed

----- Original Message -----

From: " Guy Scardina " <guys101att (DOT) net>

,

Believe it or not, I have never felt a shock. During the first year

after I got my ICD I had two or three shocks but my heart rate was so

high that I passed out before the shock. I remember one shock

happened when I was taking out the trash. I had enough warning to sit

down on the kitchen floor and the next thing I remember was laying on

the floor half in a daze, wondering if I was dead or alive. Another

happened while I was walking and also had enough warning to sit

before I passed out. While sitting on the curb after I regained

consciousness a guy in a Corvette stopped and asked if I needed help.

It was nice of him to give me a ride even though it was only a couple

blocks to my home.

The shock that I received last summer was during the night and I was

asleep. I woke up after it happened and realized that something had

just occured but was not certain what it was until my next

interrogation.

I think somebody already explained what ATP means. I usually feel

them and hope they do not escalate into a shock.

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joel

you have been explaining just fine ! i just maybe have not understood everything correctly !!i'm truely sorry for the misunderstanding ! and the fustration i may have caused soemtimes things are hard to explain ! sometimes things dont require explaining i understand what your meaning but i dont always explain myself well either i'm sorry for any miss understanding and hope you willforgive me !

stacie and kira ( borrowing a computer isnt family helpful?)

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Dear ,

nothing to apologize for. What counts in the end is just that we manage to

communicate and make some sense to each other! <smile>

Re: Guy: unfelt shocks and ATP (was Re: Re: Amiodarone

dose)

joel

you have been explaining just fine ! i just maybe have not understood

everything correctly !!i'm truely sorry for the misunderstanding ! and the

fustration i may have caused soemtimes things are hard to explain !

sometimes things dont require explaining i understand what your meaning but

i dont always explain myself well either i'm sorry for any miss

understanding and hope you willforgive me !

stacie and kira ( borrowing a computer isnt family helpful?)