Re: comments about the group

[Guest guest]

Francesca, a response:

I don't feel a need to leave, as I like several people here. But

moderators have the power to make it so and if it comes to that, I

will understand. There are other groups. But since you've asked:

constructively, I do have two suggestions:

First, I'd like to suggest that punching bag is the standard set by

the moderators since whenever a moderator disagrees with what

someone has posted, they throw in the typical JIBE IN ALL CAPS -- as

if the person is somehow a moron for making their statement, or they

are speaking a language we all cannot understand. Writing in all

caps is neither INTERESTING, nor CONSTRUCTIVE -- what it is is RUDE,

UNVEILED, UNWARRENTED CONDENSATION.

[Now tell me honestly, reading what I've just written, that it

doesn't sting? Next, convince me that any part of all of Kayce's

posts deserved to be addressed that way.]

Second, I find it just a *teeny* bit hypocritical to tell people

their research is too old or too personal, when the guru of CRON,

the wonderful Dr. Walford, based his research of the human condition

on events that happened -- to him -- personally, wwwwwaaaaayyyyy

back in...1985? I remember 1985, not so long ago. And " The 120-Year

Diet " came out in 1986, after which it took him 14 years to update

it. By your standards, that means his first book was rubbish. In

fact, by your standards, we might be inclined to ignore all his work

entirely. Or perhaps the magic cut-off date is anything before 1998?

I'm not trying to pick a fight, but I'm also not wrong. Walford was

an extremely tolerant man who welcomed all ideas; I think he'd be

truly appalled by the oft- rude, contradictory way this list is

moderated. You do provide a great service, but we don't have to lick

your boots about it. You were unnecessarily dismissive to Kayce, and

since I don't forsee this behavior changing without an argument, my

previous comments stand.

Ashuwana

(Oh, and before we get reduced to this, yes, my name really is

Ashuwana. I don't make up personas on the internet.)

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> Ashuwana: a few thoughts:

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> We always welcome CONSTRUCTIVE ways to run the group better.

However your

> post is not constructive, but scarcastic, destructive and yes,

rude.

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> We who run the group do not get any compensation or reward other

than

> feeling we are doing a service. We're certainly not here to be

your

> punching bag.

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> If you don't appreciate the group, and don't care to improve the

group in a

> constructive way, why are you here? In the event you were

unaware, you can

> leave at any time.

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[Guest guest]

Ashuwana,

As a moderator, I was somewhat taken aback by your comments. I have

never jibed anyone with whom I disagreed. My view is that every

moderator on this list posts with a high level of decorum. This means

to me that we don't post sarcastic comments, flame anyone, SHOUT,

etc...all the behaviors that Francesca was trying to avoid when she

left an earlier CR group, formed this group, and set up the very high

standards which make this group attractive to me.

Your sweeping criticism of the moderators was unfair and unwarranted,

in my view.

Diane

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> > Ashuwana: a few thoughts:

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> > We always welcome CONSTRUCTIVE ways to run the group better.

> However your

> > post is not constructive, but scarcastic, destructive and yes,

> rude.

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> > We who run the group do not get any compensation or reward other

> than

> > feeling we are doing a service. We're certainly not here to be

> your

> > punching bag.

> >

> > If you don't appreciate the group, and don't care to improve the

> group in a

> > constructive way, why are you here? In the event you were

> unaware, you can

> > leave at any time.

> >

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[Guest guest]

I believe the post to which Ashuwana refers is message #23494

(reproduced below), where Francesca responds to bill4cr with

one word all capitalized:

From: Francesca Skelton <fskelton@...>

Reply-

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Subject: Re: [ ] Dietary omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty

acidspromote colon carcinoma metastasis

Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 19:37:01 -0400

The age of this article is 1998 or an eternity in terms of nutritional

science. There have been dozens of studies since then promoting the health

benefits of fish and fish oil. Now if you were to come up with a RECENT

study such as this, it might be worth taking note of, but the old age of

this one renders it almost meaningless......

[Guest guest]

Hi folks:

Some time ago I made the decision to 'stay out of this one' as

regards this discussion! But I feel I do need to say the following:

We are all different .......... perhaps. But, by my

interpretation, a SINGLE isolated capitalized word rarely qualifies

as a shout, and usually should not be interpreted as one.

It seems to me to be entirely appropriate for an author to use

capitalization purely for the purpose of EMPHASIS.

By this I mean, just to be sure I am understood, that in my opinion

an author may appropriately capitalize a word to ensure that the

reader understands that that word is more important than they might

have thought it to be if they weren't paying quite full attention to

what they were reading.

So, I am saying that whether or not capitalized wording represents a

shout depends on the nature of the wording itself. This

interpretation suggests that readers may need to be sensitive to the

nature of, and reason for the use of, capitalization in each

particular case they come across, rather than making the blanket

assumption that any capitalization represents a (rude) shout.

It is clear to me that we are not all on the same wavelength on this

issue. Perhaps it is me who is out in left field about this.

Perhaps not.

Rodney.

PS: And **occasionally** a string of capitalized words may not be a

shout either. It depends of the nature of the content. IMO.

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> > Ashuwana: a few thoughts:

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> > We always welcome CONSTRUCTIVE ways to run the group better.

> However your

> > post is not constructive, but scarcastic, destructive and yes,

> rude.

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> > We who run the group do not get any compensation or reward other

> than

> > feeling we are doing a service. We're certainly not here to be

> your

> > punching bag.

> >

> > If you don't appreciate the group, and don't care to improve the

> group in a

> > constructive way, why are you here? In the event you were

> unaware, you can

> > leave at any time.

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