Protein

[Guest guest]

> Anyone know of a good protein supplement that is gfcf. My son is

> looking a bit skinny so thought I would see if there was a

supplement

> that would help. I am also trying to increase it in his diet.

I like rice protein powder. Doesn't have much of a taste really.

You can mix it with whatever you want.

Soy protein is also GFCF, but many kids are also reactive to

soy.

> I also want to build his upper body strength. Anyone know where I

can

> get little wrist weights?

most sporting goods stores..........

Moria

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

We use 100% Egg Protein powder supplement from Ultimate Performance Labs.

Ingredients are: Egg White Albumen, Bromelain, Papain, Natural Vanilla

Flavoring and Biotin. 1 oz of this powder provides 100 calories and 24

grams of protein. It also provides the following amino acid composition per

1 oz: Methionine (975 mg), Tryptophan (420 mg), Valine (1820 mg), Leucine

(1985 mg), Alanine (1225 mg), Arginine (1252 mg), Aspartic Acid (2410 mg),

Cystine (701 mg), Glutamic Acid (3012 mg), Isoleucine (1450 mg), Lysine

(1624 mg), Phenylalanine (1425 mg), Threonine (1154 mg), Glycine (796 mg),

Histidine (534 mg), Proline (811 mg), Serine (1548 mg), and Tyrosine (925

mg).

Ultimate Performance Laboratories, 6441 Enterprise Lane, Suite 101, Madison,

WI 53719 (608) 273-9420. Possibly they have an on-line site but I'm not

sure about that - my husband purchased it from a retail store while he was

in Wisconsin on business some time ago.

Best Regards,

[ ] Protein

> Anyone know of a good protein supplement that is gfcf. My son is

> looking a bit skinny so thought I would see if there was a supplement

> that would help. I am also trying to increase it in his diet.

>

> I also want to build his upper body strength. Anyone know where I can

> get little wrist weights? Suggestions are welcome.

>

> (Ian's mom)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>Anyone know of a good protein supplement that is gfcf.

Sure.

Bee Pollen...ounce for ounce it has more protein than soy, beef, cheese.

Make sure you don't buy Chinese pollen. There's lot of pollen on the

market that is junk.

Buy only pollen that is harvested from Organic property and cleaned and

stored under refrigeration.

It is quite a unique and valuable food source for humans, particularly

those concerned with health, youthfulness and athletic performance.

.....20 gms a day, plus oxygen and water ... Can be used as a great

survival food.

The real magic with it begins when you consume 1-2 ounces per day on a

regular basis.

I've used it professionally for over 40 years.

If you need more information, email me privately.

Dolphi

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Hi folks:

Over the past week or so I have been giving some thought to the issue

of dietary protein. This eruption of grey matter activity was

provoked by a couple of posts a few weeks ago. One, posted by Jeff

I believe, provided data which showed that among a group of

centenarians in China protein intake amounted to about 40 grams a

day. The second was a study which indicated that rats whose intake

was 80% restricted in one particular amino acid lived 40% longer than

those whose intake was not similarly restricted.

Now these studies do not prove much. The chinese study did not show

how much protein was consumed by those among the local population who

died early. Perhaps everyone in the region, including those who

dropped dead at age 50, had also been consuming 40 grams of protein a

day. In which case the low protein intake of the centenarians would

be of no significance. The rat study has not, as far as I know, been

replicated. So this could perhaps all be shown, by future studies,

to be irrelevant to us.

OTOH, it certainly does seem to suggest that consuming a mere 40

grams of protein daily is not harmful. In addition, if 40 grams of

protein permits substantial longevity, it is conceivable that 30

grams might be even better, since there is no reason to believe

those centenarians just happened to be consuming precisely the ideal

amount of protein. At this stage we simply do not know. But for the

remainder of this post I will speculate about what the implications

may be if these findings turn out to be confirmed by future

studies .................. that is, if further study confirms that

protein restriction is a significant contributor to increased maximum

lifespan.

Over the years I have not paid much attention to my protein intake.

I have checked occasionally to make sure I am getting enough, in

total, and I have eaten at least a little fish or lean meat regularly

to make sure I am not deficient in any specific amino acid. As

regards quantities, I have worked hard to reduce my intake of all

fats, especially saturated and hydrogenated fats, but haven't paid

close attention to the quantities of total protein or individual

amino acids.

So in the past few days I have logged my protein intake with some

care, and what did I find? Well most days, while consuming a rather

modest number of calories, I eat at least double the protein of the

chinese centenarians, and sometimes three times as much. Is this

likely to be a good idea, if I am hoping to live to 120 in order to

be still around to take advantage of the life extension possibilities

science will discover during the next sixty years? [Kurzweil is

predicting that within fifteen years science will be extending

remaining lifespans by ***more than a year as each year passes***.]

It may be less than constructive to consume double, triple or perhaps

even four times the optimal protein intake. But it would be helpful,

first, to know that the optimal level of protein intake is(!)

With the above in mind I decided to take a look at how I could reduce

my protein intake, in case at some future time that appears

desirable. With the general idea that I might possibly need to drop

protein calories to, for a number, around 10% of total.

First I looked at my fish consumption - mostly salmon, herring,

mackerel, sardines, sole and tuna. According to nutritiondata.com

the protein calories as a percent of total for these foods are

between 40% and 50% for the high fat varieties, and over 80% for the

lower fat types like tuna and sole. The conclusion seems to be that

it would be very very difficult to eat a diet averaging 10% of

calories from protein if one consumed pretty much ANY of these. This

may be an argument in favor of fish oil that I had not previously

considered. So next I turned to green vegetables ..............

............ romaine, bok choy, kale, broccoli and spinach. For

these, protein accounted, respectively, for the following percentages

of total calories: 18%, 28%, 16%, 20%, 30%. Clearly, these numbers

are a little more encouraging than those for fish. But they are

hardly going to help bring down my average to anywhere near 10%. If

I want to eat a fair amount of green vegetables and still average 10%

overall I would need to consume a lot of stuff that contains zero

protein. So next I took a look at legumes ....................

.................. canned baked beans, lentils, chick peas, peas,

peanuts are a few classic examples from the legume family, all or

most of which are generally considered to be healthy. The protein

percentages for them are: 22%, 27%, 14%, 23%, 14%. A couple of

these are getting a little closer to the 10% threshold. But again,

if one is going to be eating anything with a higher protein content

one will need some foods with a lot less than 10% to end up with an

average of 10% protein overall. So we need to look elsewhere. How

about fruits? ......................

................... apples, oranges, bananas, peaches,

apricots ................... 2%, 6%, 4%, 8%, 10%. These numbers,

clearly, are much more encouraging. But most of the calories in

these are from sugars, and these foods for the most part are far from

dense with micronutrients.

I also looked at cereals. Many of which have a lowish protein

percentage. For example, 9% of the calories in Multi-Grain Cheerios

are from protein. But when I saw that a 200g serving of it daily

would, it alone, supply 2.5 times the upper safe limit for iron, I

discarded that as an idea worth considering.

So how did the chinese centenarians manage to eat so little

protein? Half their daily calories came from eating dried sweet

potato slices! Just 5% of the calories of which are derived from

protein.

As I said at the outset, it is not known to what extent, if any, the

longevity of these chinese centenarians may be attibutable to low

protein intake, or to their consumption of sweet potatoes - which may

or may not be the same variety eaten in north America. But this is

an issue that may bear some thinking about while the scientists work

on determining what particular dietary component it is, that is the

most important to restrict. It does seem to have been established

that, at least for fruit flies, restriction of carbohydrates

contributes only marginally to longer lifespan. So this suggests the

longevity benefits of CR may mostly derive from restriction of either

total fat, total protein, or some specific types of either fat or

protein.

If it turns out that protein restriction is of major importance, then

the numbers above suggest it will be necessary for me to make radical

changes to my diet in comparison with what I have been eating up

until now.

But as I noted at the outset, all the above is speculation based on

information we do not yet know. Nevertheless, it certainly raises

questions about the desirability of taking any kind of protein

supplements.

Input, especially any containing alternative viewpoints, will be much

appreciated.

Rodney.

[Guest guest]

Geri,

I think you asked about protein powder supplementation or what we eat

for protein. I eat good amounts of chicken, fish, and low fat cottage

cheese, bananas, milk, grapes, egg white omelettes and now and then

lean cuts of beef.

~ Gretchen

[Guest guest]

Thank you...I don't think I'm getting enough protein..all though I do eat lots

of nuts, seeds, veg. and fruit...not much beef, chicken or fish ...I don't mind

meat. Guess I had better start eating more of it.

My shoulders, neck are bothering me so bad ...like they are stuck and they hurt

too.

Thanks

Geri