Guest guest Posted February 9, 2001 Report Share Posted February 9, 2001 , Wow! It sounds like you are doing everything you can for Don. You too need a ton of **HUGS** and **BIG BEAR HUGS** Love you lots and lots Chelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2001 Report Share Posted February 9, 2001 I'm so sorry you are having it so rough. Yes there is a rainbow at the end of the tunnel, It just seems to take some of us a long long time to get there... You can be very proud of yourself for all the things you do !!! My hats off to you. ^^^^^ angle hugs^^^^^ Helen In a message dated 2/9/2001 2:40:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, handd1@... writes: Hi everyone, I am gonna vent, and then ask that anyone who is a caretaker, or even if you're not, that's okay too. I really need support, and it is very hard for me to ask for it, in fact, this is my first time. (does that make me a support virgin?) I'm trying to keep humor in my life right now as I am just so exhausted. It is all I can do to make it through the day. I get up early, very early, and get ready for school. I make sure that Don (my fiancé who has cancer) is not running a fever, and set up his medication for the day. I remind him that he needs to eat, and keep the phone with him at all times so I can reach him if I need to check up on him. I go to school very early to get a parking spot, there are about ten times more students than parking spots. I bring a blanket and pillow in my car, because frequently I haven't had any sleep, or very little. I stay up with Don if he has a fever, or is vomiting from his chemotherapy. He also has a very bleak outlook right now, and I have almost run out of positive things to say to him. I just don't know what to do for him any more. I fight discrimination at my school from the instructors who are just ignorant about hearing difficulties, and fight the system to provide services they promised me a few months ago. My chairs are not in my classes, so I have to either stand or sit on the floor for 3 1/2 hours. I hurt very much. I am at school for about 17 hours a day, three days a week, and the other times I am carting Don from appointments, getting medications, giving shots, and trying to sneak in a cat nap here and there. Oh, don't forget homework!!!! I have fibromyalgia, so I am hurting a lot, and the stress doesn't help. I can't take pain killers, they make me sleepy. Laundry, housework, pet care.......It goes on forever, but it seems very overwhelming. There is only two more months of Don's chemo, then he starts radiation, but radiation is every day. I think right now, I just need to hear that I'm not alone, and I need to know that things will get better. It is hard to stay positive, but I am trying meditation. One problem though, I don't have enough time or quiet, or I'm too tired and I fall asleep. Any suggestions???? #1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2001 Report Share Posted February 10, 2001 , *giggles* at the support virgin comment!! :-) Hon,believe me when I say that I know exactly how hard it is to be a caregiver. Plus, you have your illnesses, and just life in general on top of it all. *huge hugs* I don't think that it is above and beyond to ask Don to take more responsibility for his own treatment. I don't mean that to sound heartless at all, only that you, too, are ill, and you both need to make things as easy as possible. I know that none of it is easy, and I know that Don is sick and feels like shit most of the time. Matty was treated on the heme/onc floor, and I saw what the kiddos with cancer went through. It's certainly no picnic. My heart breaks for both of you. It is imperative for a caregiver to take care of yourself, too. You will not be able to help Don if you don't help yourself. I know this is easier said than done, I often neglected myself for Matty's benefit, too. I would go for days and days with little or no sleep because Matty needed cared for. My only respite, as bad as it sounds, was when Matty was in the hospital and there were 3 shifts of nurses there to care for Matty's medical needs. But, that situation was different, because Matty was not capable of taking care of himself, ever. I think it is so very important for you and Don to sit down together, for you to share with him how run down you feel, and for the two of you to come up with a schedule that is more do-able for a mere human such as yourself, because, girl, I have to tell you, Wonder Woman couldn't keep up with the schedule you've had. *hugs* To try to keep up this pace, hon, you're gonna burn out so fast...let me tell you, because I burned out with Matty for a while, too, and it is no fun. You become completely unattached. You don't care if they get their meds on time, you don't care if they can't sleep, you don't care period. It's a total nightmare, because you know you still love this person with all of your heart, but you just can't make yourself care about the drugs/illness/pain/treatment, etc. Please, hon, tell Don how you feel. Let him help work this out. *huge hugs* Don & wrote: > Hi everyone, I am gonna vent, and then ask that anyone who is a caretaker, > or even if you're not, that's okay too. I really need support, and it is > very hard for me to ask for it, in fact, this is my first time. (does that > make me a support virgin?) I'm trying to keep humor in my life right now as > I am just so exhausted. It is all I can do to make it through the day. I > get up early, very early, and get ready for school. I make sure that Don > (my fiancé who has cancer) is not running a fever, and set up his medication > for the day. I remind him that he needs to eat, and keep the phone with him > at all times so I can reach him if I need to check up on him. I go to > school very early to get a parking spot, there are about ten times more > students than parking spots. I bring a blanket and pillow in my car, > because frequently I haven't had any sleep, or very little. I stay up with > Don if he has a fever, or is vomiting from his chemotherapy. He also has a > very bleak outlook right now, and I have almost run out of positive things > to say to him. I just don't know what to do for him any more. I fight > discrimination at my school from the instructors who are just ignorant about > hearing difficulties, and fight the system to provide services they promised > me a few months ago. My chairs are not in my classes, so I have to either > stand or sit on the floor for 3 1/2 hours. I hurt very much. I am at > school for about 17 hours a day, three days a week, and the other times I am > carting Don from appointments, getting medications, giving shots, and trying > to sneak in a cat nap here and there. Oh, don't forget homework!!!! I have > fibromyalgia, so I am hurting a lot, and the stress doesn't help. I can't > take pain killers, they make me sleepy. Laundry, housework, pet > care.......It goes on forever, but it seems very overwhelming. There is > only two more months of Don's chemo, then he starts radiation, but radiation > is every day. I think right now, I just need to hear that I'm not alone, > and I need to know that things will get better. It is hard to stay > positive, but I am trying meditation. One problem though, I don't have > enough time or quiet, or I'm too tired and I fall asleep. Any > suggestions???? > > #1 > > ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ > The Being Sick Community > > Help with Merger > /files/ > > Visual problems with colors? > Click the link below and select the modify link to your right. Then select the **Send Plain Text Email** option. 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Guest guest Posted February 10, 2001 Report Share Posted February 10, 2001 Thanks , this is really what I need to hear. I think that Don and I will set down and talk about this, because I know there is more he could be doing for himself. I just feel so darn guilty...... Re: VENT, and request for support , *giggles* at the support virgin comment!! :-) Hon,believe me when I say that I know exactly how hard it is to be a caregiver. Plus, you have your illnesses, and just life in general on top of it all. *huge hugs* I don't think that it is above and beyond to ask Don to take more responsibility for his own treatment. I don't mean that to sound heartless at all, only that you, too, are ill, and you both need to make things as easy as possible. I know that none of it is easy, and I know that Don is sick and feels like shit most of the time. Matty was treated on the heme/onc floor, and I saw what the kiddos with cancer went through. It's certainly no picnic. My heart breaks for both of you. It is imperative for a caregiver to take care of yourself, too. You will not be able to help Don if you don't help yourself. I know this is easier said than done, I often neglected myself for Matty's benefit, too. I would go for days and days with little or no sleep because Matty needed cared for. My only respite, as bad as it sounds, was when Matty was in the hospital and there were 3 shifts of nurses there to care for Matty's medical needs. But, that situation was different, because Matty was not capable of taking care of himself, ever. I think it is so very important for you and Don to sit down together, for you to share with him how run down you feel, and for the two of you to come up with a schedule that is more do-able for a mere human such as yourself, because, girl, I have to tell you, Wonder Woman couldn't keep up with the schedule you've had. *hugs* To try to keep up this pace, hon, you're gonna burn out so fast...let me tell you, because I burned out with Matty for a while, too, and it is no fun. You become completely unattached. You don't care if they get their meds on time, you don't care if they can't sleep, you don't care period. It's a total nightmare, because you know you still love this person with all of your heart, but you just can't make yourself care about the drugs/illness/pain/treatment, etc. Please, hon, tell Don how you feel. Let him help work this out. *huge hugs* Don & wrote: > Hi everyone, I am gonna vent, and then ask that anyone who is a caretaker, > or even if you're not, that's okay too. I really need support, and it is > very hard for me to ask for it, in fact, this is my first time. (does that > make me a support virgin?) I'm trying to keep humor in my life right now as > I am just so exhausted. It is all I can do to make it through the day. I > get up early, very early, and get ready for school. I make sure that Don > (my fiancé who has cancer) is not running a fever, and set up his medication > for the day. I remind him that he needs to eat, and keep the phone with him > at all times so I can reach him if I need to check up on him. I go to > school very early to get a parking spot, there are about ten times more > students than parking spots. I bring a blanket and pillow in my car, > because frequently I haven't had any sleep, or very little. I stay up with > Don if he has a fever, or is vomiting from his chemotherapy. He also has a > very bleak outlook right now, and I have almost run out of positive things > to say to him. I just don't know what to do for him any more. I fight > discrimination at my school from the instructors who are just ignorant about > hearing difficulties, and fight the system to provide services they promised > me a few months ago. My chairs are not in my classes, so I have to either > stand or sit on the floor for 3 1/2 hours. I hurt very much. I am at > school for about 17 hours a day, three days a week, and the other times I am > carting Don from appointments, getting medications, giving shots, and trying > to sneak in a cat nap here and there. Oh, don't forget homework!!!! I have > fibromyalgia, so I am hurting a lot, and the stress doesn't help. I can't > take pain killers, they make me sleepy. Laundry, housework, pet > care.......It goes on forever, but it seems very overwhelming. There is > only two more months of Don's chemo, then he starts radiation, but radiation > is every day. I think right now, I just need to hear that I'm not alone, > and I need to know that things will get better. It is hard to stay > positive, but I am trying meditation. One problem though, I don't have > enough time or quiet, or I'm too tired and I fall asleep. Any > suggestions???? > > #1 > > ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ > The Being Sick Community > > Help with Merger > /files/ > > Visual problems with colors? > Click the link below and select the modify link to your right. Then select the **Send Plain Text Email** option. 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Guest guest Posted February 11, 2001 Report Share Posted February 11, 2001 Hi , {{{{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}} I used to be as terribly busy as you when I was taking care of my mum. You are already doing lots and lots already..... do remember to tone down some time and get a good rest! I know how important it is to take good care of someone that you love so much, but just remember that you are human too, you need ample rest to function at your optimum, and that includes having enough rest to take care of your fiance! Ling VENT, and request for support Hi everyone, I am gonna vent, and then ask that anyone who is a caretaker, or even if you're not, that's okay too. I really need support, and it is very hard for me to ask for it, in fact, this is my first time. (does that make me a support virgin?) I'm trying to keep humor in my life right now as I am just so exhausted. It is all I can do to make it through the day. I get up early, very early, and get ready for school. I make sure that Don (my fiancé who has cancer) is not running a fever, and set up his medication for the day. I remind him that he needs to eat, and keep the phone with him at all times so I can reach him if I need to check up on him. I go to school very early to get a parking spot, there are about ten times more students than parking spots. I bring a blanket and pillow in my car, because frequently I haven't had any sleep, or very little. I stay up with Don if he has a fever, or is vomiting from his chemotherapy. He also has a very bleak outlook right now, and I have almost run out of positive things to say to him. I just don't know what to do for him any more. I fight discrimination at my school from the instructors who are just ignorant about hearing difficulties, and fight the system to provide services they promised me a few months ago. My chairs are not in my classes, so I have to either stand or sit on the floor for 3 1/2 hours. I hurt very much. I am at school for about 17 hours a day, three days a week, and the other times I am carting Don from appointments, getting medications, giving shots, and trying to sneak in a cat nap here and there. Oh, don't forget homework!!!! I have fibromyalgia, so I am hurting a lot, and the stress doesn't help. I can't take pain killers, they make me sleepy. Laundry, housework, pet care.......It goes on forever, but it seems very overwhelming. There is only two more months of Don's chemo, then he starts radiation, but radiation is every day. I think right now, I just need to hear that I'm not alone, and I need to know that things will get better. It is hard to stay positive, but I am trying meditation. One problem though, I don't have enough time or quiet, or I'm too tired and I fall asleep. Any suggestions???? #1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2001 Report Share Posted February 11, 2001 Thanks Ling. I think I'll take a nap now. **YAWN** Re: VENT, and request for support Hi , {{{{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}} I used to be as terribly busy as you when I was taking care of my mum. You are already doing lots and lots already..... do remember to tone down some time and get a good rest! I know how important it is to take good care of someone that you love so much, but just remember that you are human too, you need ample rest to function at your optimum, and that includes having enough rest to take care of your fiance! Ling VENT, and request for support Hi everyone, I am gonna vent, and then ask that anyone who is a caretaker, or even if you're not, that's okay too. I really need support, and it is very hard for me to ask for it, in fact, this is my first time. (does that make me a support virgin?) I'm trying to keep humor in my life right now as I am just so exhausted. It is all I can do to make it through the day. I get up early, very early, and get ready for school. I make sure that Don (my fiancé who has cancer) is not running a fever, and set up his medication for the day. I remind him that he needs to eat, and keep the phone with him at all times so I can reach him if I need to check up on him. I go to school very early to get a parking spot, there are about ten times more students than parking spots. I bring a blanket and pillow in my car, because frequently I haven't had any sleep, or very little. I stay up with Don if he has a fever, or is vomiting from his chemotherapy. He also has a very bleak outlook right now, and I have almost run out of positive things to say to him. I just don't know what to do for him any more. I fight discrimination at my school from the instructors who are just ignorant about hearing difficulties, and fight the system to provide services they promised me a few months ago. My chairs are not in my classes, so I have to either stand or sit on the floor for 3 1/2 hours. I hurt very much. I am at school for about 17 hours a day, three days a week, and the other times I am carting Don from appointments, getting medications, giving shots, and trying to sneak in a cat nap here and there. Oh, don't forget homework!!!! I have fibromyalgia, so I am hurting a lot, and the stress doesn't help. I can't take pain killers, they make me sleepy. Laundry, housework, pet care.......It goes on forever, but it seems very overwhelming. There is only two more months of Don's chemo, then he starts radiation, but radiation is every day. I think right now, I just need to hear that I'm not alone, and I need to know that things will get better. It is hard to stay positive, but I am trying meditation. One problem though, I don't have enough time or quiet, or I'm too tired and I fall asleep. Any suggestions???? #1 ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ The Being Sick Community Help with Merger /files/ Visual problems with colors? Click the link below and select the modify link to your right. Then select the **Send Plain Text Email** option. This will stop you receiving emails with colored or enlarged fonts. /join Members Lounge:- Photo Album, memorial page, members profiles, birthdays, locations, medical resources, counselling via email and a whole bunch of free things. http://www.elderwyn.com/members Message Archives and Digest Attachment Pictures:- /messages Chat:- Scheduled Daily Chats at # on IRC DALnet. /files/chat.htm Bookmarks:- Add a website URL you have found useful. /links Personal Complaints or problems:- Please contact a moderator either via email <-owner > or visit:- /files/Moderators.htm Subscription Details:- 1) Individual email - means that every email sent to the list you receive. 2) Daily Digest - sends you 25 messages in one single email for you to browse. This is an excellent option if you receive alot of email. 3) Web only/No mail - means that you can pop into eGroups at your convenience and receive no email. To modify your subscription settings, subscribe or unsubscribe, please visit /join ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ “Hold on to what is good, even if it's a handful of earth. Hold on to what you believe, even if it's a tree that stands by itself. Hold on to what you must do even, if it's a long way from here. Hold on to your life, even if it's easier to let go. " - Pueblo Prayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2001 Report Share Posted February 11, 2001 , I know hon, and that guilt makes it feel like you've got the weight of the world on you shoulders. *hugs* Let me know how your talk with Don goes, and know that we're all here with you on this one, you're not going it alone. :-) love ya, Don & wrote: > Thanks , this is really what I need to hear. I think that Don and I > will set down and talk about this, because I know there is more he could be > doing for himself. I just feel so darn guilty...... > > > > Re: VENT, and request for support > > , > *giggles* at the support virgin comment!! :-) > Hon,believe me when I say that I know exactly how hard it is to be a > caregiver. Plus, you have your illnesses, and just life in general on top of > it all. *huge hugs* > I don't think that it is above and beyond to ask Don to take more > responsibility for his own treatment. I don't mean that to sound heartless > at all, only that you, too, are ill, and you both need to make things as > easy as possible. I know that none of it is easy, > and I know that Don is sick and feels like shit most of the time. Matty was > treated on the heme/onc floor, and I saw what the kiddos with cancer went > through. It's certainly no picnic. My heart breaks for both of you. > It is imperative for a caregiver to take care of yourself, too. You will > not be able to help Don if you don't help yourself. I know this is easier > said than done, I often neglected myself for Matty's benefit, too. I would > go for days and days with little or no sleep > because Matty needed cared for. My only respite, as bad as it sounds, was > when Matty was in the hospital and there were 3 shifts of nurses there to > care for Matty's medical needs. But, that situation was different, because > Matty was not capable of taking care of > himself, ever. I think it is so very important for you and Don to sit down > together, for you to share with him how run down you feel, and for the two > of you to come up with a schedule that is more do-able for a mere human such > as yourself, because, girl, I have to > tell you, Wonder Woman couldn't keep up with the schedule you've had. *hugs* > To try to keep up this pace, hon, you're gonna burn out so fast...let me > tell you, because I burned out with Matty for a while, too, and it is no > fun. You become completely unattached. You don't care if they get their meds > on time, you don't care if they can't > sleep, you don't care period. It's a total nightmare, because you know you > still love this person with all of your heart, but you just can't make > yourself care about the drugs/illness/pain/treatment, etc. > Please, hon, tell Don how you feel. Let him help work this out. > > *huge hugs* > > > Don & wrote: > > > Hi everyone, I am gonna vent, and then ask that anyone who is a caretaker, > > or even if you're not, that's okay too. I really need support, and it is > > very hard for me to ask for it, in fact, this is my first time. (does > that > > make me a support virgin?) I'm trying to keep humor in my life right now > as > > I am just so exhausted. It is all I can do to make it through the day. I > > get up early, very early, and get ready for school. I make sure that Don > > (my fiancé who has cancer) is not running a fever, and set up his > medication > > for the day. I remind him that he needs to eat, and keep the phone with > him > > at all times so I can reach him if I need to check up on him. I go to > > school very early to get a parking spot, there are about ten times more > > students than parking spots. I bring a blanket and pillow in my car, > > because frequently I haven't had any sleep, or very little. I stay up > with > > Don if he has a fever, or is vomiting from his chemotherapy. He also has > a > > very bleak outlook right now, and I have almost run out of positive things > > to say to him. I just don't know what to do for him any more. I fight > > discrimination at my school from the instructors who are just ignorant > about > > hearing difficulties, and fight the system to provide services they > promised > > me a few months ago. My chairs are not in my classes, so I have to either > > stand or sit on the floor for 3 1/2 hours. I hurt very much. I am at > > school for about 17 hours a day, three days a week, and the other times I > am > > carting Don from appointments, getting medications, giving shots, and > trying > > to sneak in a cat nap here and there. Oh, don't forget homework!!!! I > have > > fibromyalgia, so I am hurting a lot, and the stress doesn't help. I can't > > take pain killers, they make me sleepy. Laundry, housework, pet > > care.......It goes on forever, but it seems very overwhelming. There is > > only two more months of Don's chemo, then he starts radiation, but > radiation > > is every day. I think right now, I just need to hear that I'm not alone, > > and I need to know that things will get better. It is hard to stay > > positive, but I am trying meditation. One problem though, I don't have > > enough time or quiet, or I'm too tired and I fall asleep. Any > > suggestions???? > > > > #1 > > > > ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ > > The Being Sick Community > > > > Help with Merger > > /files/ > > > > Visual problems with colors? > > Click the link below and select the modify link to your right. Then select > the **Send Plain Text Email** option. 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Guest guest Posted February 11, 2001 Report Share Posted February 11, 2001 , We've talked a little so far, but I don't think that it has really sunk in to him yet. I think he thinks that I am now invincible, and I'm not!!! He said that he is worried about my health, but that I am not doing anything about it. I haven't had the energy to deal with my own stuff. So, we talked about that, and he admitted that he would say some things to get attention, and that they really weren't emergency things. GRRRRR. I thought they were emergencies, and so did my adrenal glands! I think more will come out, but It'll take time. Thanks , Re: VENT, and request for support > > , > *giggles* at the support virgin comment!! :-) > Hon,believe me when I say that I know exactly how hard it is to be a > caregiver. Plus, you have your illnesses, and just life in general on top of > it all. *huge hugs* > I don't think that it is above and beyond to ask Don to take more > responsibility for his own treatment. I don't mean that to sound heartless > at all, only that you, too, are ill, and you both need to make things as > easy as possible. I know that none of it is easy, > and I know that Don is sick and feels like shit most of the time. Matty was > treated on the heme/onc floor, and I saw what the kiddos with cancer went > through. It's certainly no picnic. My heart breaks for both of you. > It is imperative for a caregiver to take care of yourself, too. You will > not be able to help Don if you don't help yourself. I know this is easier > said than done, I often neglected myself for Matty's benefit, too. I would > go for days and days with little or no sleep > because Matty needed cared for. My only respite, as bad as it sounds, was > when Matty was in the hospital and there were 3 shifts of nurses there to > care for Matty's medical needs. But, that situation was different, because > Matty was not capable of taking care of > himself, ever. I think it is so very important for you and Don to sit down > together, for you to share with him how run down you feel, and for the two > of you to come up with a schedule that is more do-able for a mere human such > as yourself, because, girl, I have to > tell you, Wonder Woman couldn't keep up with the schedule you've had. *hugs* > To try to keep up this pace, hon, you're gonna burn out so fast...let me > tell you, because I burned out with Matty for a while, too, and it is no > fun. You become completely unattached. You don't care if they get their meds > on time, you don't care if they can't > sleep, you don't care period. It's a total nightmare, because you know you > still love this person with all of your heart, but you just can't make > yourself care about the drugs/illness/pain/treatment, etc. > Please, hon, tell Don how you feel. Let him help work this out. > > *huge hugs* > > > Don & wrote: > > > Hi everyone, I am gonna vent, and then ask that anyone who is a caretaker, > > or even if you're not, that's okay too. I really need support, and it is > > very hard for me to ask for it, in fact, this is my first time. (does > that > > make me a support virgin?) I'm trying to keep humor in my life right now > as > > I am just so exhausted. It is all I can do to make it through the day. I > > get up early, very early, and get ready for school. I make sure that Don > > (my fiancé who has cancer) is not running a fever, and set up his > medication > > for the day. I remind him that he needs to eat, and keep the phone with > him > > at all times so I can reach him if I need to check up on him. I go to > > school very early to get a parking spot, there are about ten times more > > students than parking spots. I bring a blanket and pillow in my car, > > because frequently I haven't had any sleep, or very little. I stay up > with > > Don if he has a fever, or is vomiting from his chemotherapy. He also has > a > > very bleak outlook right now, and I have almost run out of positive things > > to say to him. I just don't know what to do for him any more. I fight > > discrimination at my school from the instructors who are just ignorant > about > > hearing difficulties, and fight the system to provide services they > promised > > me a few months ago. My chairs are not in my classes, so I have to either > > stand or sit on the floor for 3 1/2 hours. I hurt very much. I am at > > school for about 17 hours a day, three days a week, and the other times I > am > > carting Don from appointments, getting medications, giving shots, and > trying > > to sneak in a cat nap here and there. Oh, don't forget homework!!!! I > have > > fibromyalgia, so I am hurting a lot, and the stress doesn't help. I can't > > take pain killers, they make me sleepy. Laundry, housework, pet > > care.......It goes on forever, but it seems very overwhelming. There is > > only two more months of Don's chemo, then he starts radiation, but > radiation > > is every day. I think right now, I just need to hear that I'm not alone, > > and I need to know that things will get better. It is hard to stay > > positive, but I am trying meditation. One problem though, I don't have > > enough time or quiet, or I'm too tired and I fall asleep. Any > > suggestions???? > > > > #1 > > > > ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ > > The Being Sick Community > > > > Help with Merger > > /files/ > > > > Visual problems with colors? > > Click the link below and select the modify link to your right. Then select > the **Send Plain Text Email** option. 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Guest guest Posted February 12, 2001 Report Share Posted February 12, 2001 Dear #1, LMAO @ Support virgin... Now you are gonna get an earfull of Aisha's Blunt Wisdom... 1) You are totally burnt out. Its an old cliche however true... like all cliches....You cannot help a soul unless you help yourself first, for you will have nothing to give. The more fatigued you allow yourself to become the more you will get resentful, angry, depressed, and inneffecient as a caregiver. The sick person will pick up on this and will mimic this attitude back at you perhaps without even knowing it cause they are not well enough to really cope with their own emotion, let alone anothers. Which really puts the pressure on the caregiver. Thats why you HAVE NO CHOICE but to make sure you take time out NO MATTER HOW RESENTFUL the sick person will be, for yourself. Or you will slowly self distruct. 2) Don's attitude. Is he on anti-depressants or does he have a social worker that can come and talk to him? This works for alot of people. You are doing too much to expect yourself do everything as much as your loved one wants you too, and I understand that want as I am the sick person, but its not practical. 3) It is hard to stay positive. Who said you had to be positive all the time? So fall apart. Burst into tears. Have a break down. Cry. Its the best thing you can do for yourself. Why be strong? You are human, you have feelings, you have needs. You are watching someone you love go throught this horrible stuff, you are sick, you are trying to be everything for everyone. What about you? I think the rubber band has snapped here honey. So break. Cry. Lose the plot for awhile. Who ever said you had to be strong? Crying is a strength not a weakness. Embrace the fact that you are human and emotional and just need a break. Its normal. Its healthy to need this. Make a point of taking " " time each day to do something that restores you, even if its only 20 minutes. Its your 20 minutes. Stretch out and relax somewhere peaceful. Munch on a chocolate. Indulge. Do something totally for you. Something that will make you feel good about yourself. We all burn out and we all go through times when we need to walk away. Hell I turn my email off for weeks cause I have people emailing me for help when I'm burnt out. Its not the same at all, but its just a tiny example that we all need to step outside of the pressure that is placed on us at times. Put your feet up, listen to your favourate CD, have a yummy drink, and take time for you. You are not alone hon. EVERYONE needs time out from responsibility at some point. Sometimes life is too damn hard. *angel hugs* isha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2001 Report Share Posted February 12, 2001 Aisha, Thanks...I DO know this, really I do. Sometimes I think that I can stretch myself just a little thinner.....really I can't. I dropped a class at school, and had a talk with Don. He expects me to be responsible for myself, and I expect him to be responsible for himself, but we can BOTH ask for help when we need it. I was on the verge of a breakdown when I wrote this email to everyone, and I have exploded, and feel much better. I cried for a few hours, and vented BIG time! I vented to any one who would listen, or even ones who didn't listen, I didn't care! Hell, I vented to my bird. She's a great listener. She only knows a few words, and her favorite on is I love you. That is great when you are yelling, and crying and someone says, " I love you " . She is my favorite person to talk to. Thank you guys for all of your support, it is so hard to be everyone to everybody, and yet no one to myself. Right now I am on a " me " break, and then I'm gonna go to sleep. For at least ten hours. Let the phone ring, if it's important they'll call back, right? Re: VENT, and request for support Dear #1, LMAO @ Support virgin... Now you are gonna get an earfull of Aisha's Blunt Wisdom... 1) You are totally burnt out. Its an old cliche however true... like all cliches....You cannot help a soul unless you help yourself first, for you will have nothing to give. The more fatigued you allow yourself to become the more you will get resentful, angry, depressed, and inneffecient as a caregiver. The sick person will pick up on this and will mimic this attitude back at you perhaps without even knowing it cause they are not well enough to really cope with their own emotion, let alone anothers. Which really puts the pressure on the caregiver. Thats why you HAVE NO CHOICE but to make sure you take time out NO MATTER HOW RESENTFUL the sick person will be, for yourself. Or you will slowly self distruct. 2) Don's attitude. Is he on anti-depressants or does he have a social worker that can come and talk to him? This works for alot of people. You are doing too much to expect yourself do everything as much as your loved one wants you too, and I understand that want as I am the sick person, but its not practical. 3) It is hard to stay positive. Who said you had to be positive all the time? So fall apart. Burst into tears. Have a break down. Cry. Its the best thing you can do for yourself. Why be strong? You are human, you have feelings, you have needs. You are watching someone you love go throught this horrible stuff, you are sick, you are trying to be everything for everyone. What about you? I think the rubber band has snapped here honey. So break. Cry. Lose the plot for awhile. Who ever said you had to be strong? Crying is a strength not a weakness. Embrace the fact that you are human and emotional and just need a break. Its normal. Its healthy to need this. Make a point of taking " " time each day to do something that restores you, even if its only 20 minutes. Its your 20 minutes. Stretch out and relax somewhere peaceful. Munch on a chocolate. Indulge. Do something totally for you. Something that will make you feel good about yourself. We all burn out and we all go through times when we need to walk away. Hell I turn my email off for weeks cause I have people emailing me for help when I'm burnt out. Its not the same at all, but its just a tiny example that we all need to step outside of the pressure that is placed on us at times. Put your feet up, listen to your favourate CD, have a yummy drink, and take time for you. You are not alone hon. EVERYONE needs time out from responsibility at some point. Sometimes life is too damn hard. *angel hugs* isha. ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ The Being Sick Community Help with Merger /files/ Visual problems with colors? 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