Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 That's what I thought! He seems to question alot of standard medicine. Matter of fact, he was just complaining about the FDA deeming a dietary supplement called Cholestin, an unapproved drug. It is quite effective at lowering cholesterol and is derived from red yeast rice. Something about one of the active compounds is the same as a drug that is patented by a drug company. It went to court and the judge sided with the drug company (big surprise there!). Cholestin is still sold overseas however. Dr. Weil seems to be somewhat " alternative " except where vaccines are concerned. Kathleen In a message dated 8/7/2001 6:44:12 AM Central Daylight Time, sandym@... writes: > Kathleen, I'm sorry to hear that about Dr. Weil. Many years ago I wrote to > a lot of people, asking for their support re:philosophical exemptions, > including Dr. Weil, and he wrote back telling me he did not support > philosophical exemptions and why. At the time I was very disappointed, and > felt he was very superficial in his analysis, which seems out of character > for him. I don't know that he necessarily has sold out, but he is not very > informed on the issue, in my mind. It really doesn't make sense, though, > when he questions medicine in so many ways, but will not consider > questioning this. But more important, apparently doesn't believe parents > should have any rights where vaccines are concerned. Sandy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Kathleen, I'm sorry to hear that about Dr. Weil. Many years ago I wrote to a lot of people, asking for their support re:philosophical exemptions, including Dr. Weil, and he wrote back telling me he did not support philosophical exemptions and why. At the time I was very disappointed, and felt he was very superficial in his analysis, which seems out of character for him. I don't know that he necessarily has sold out, but he is not very informed on the issue, in my mind. It really doesn't make sense, though, when he questions medicine in so many ways, but will not consider questioning this. But more important, apparently doesn't believe parents should have any rights where vaccines are concerned. Sandy ALL INFORMATION, DATA, AND MATERIAL CONTAINED, PRESENTED, OR PROVIDED HERE IS FOR GENERAL INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS REFLECTING THE KNOWLEDGE OR OPINIONS OF THE PUBLISHER, AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED OR INTENDED AS PROVIDING MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO VACCINATE IS AN IMPORTANT AND COMPLEX ISSUE AND SHOULD BE MADE BY YOU, AND YOU ALONE, IN CONSULTATION WITH YOUR HEALTH CARE PROVIDER. Dr. Weil Just out of curiosity, does anyone here subscribe to Dr. Weil's " Self-Healing " newsletter? I've been a subscribed for about a year now and haven't been terribly impressed with the newsletter. Seemed like fairly basic stuff that I already knew. Anyhow, I had decided that I would NOT be renewing my subscription. Well, along comes the August 2001 edition which cemented that decision. First of all, let me say that he has no advertisers in his newsletter. But I think he too has sold out! I believe that because he is such a prominent name with a national following that he was approached by a drug company and offered money for coming out as pro-vaccine. I understand that this is actually standard operating procedure nowadays. You won't believe the pro-vaccine article that he wrote. It reads just like a page from the CDC website. I'm not kidding - the words/phrases are the exact same. He also slanted the Prevnar info so that it appears to be an ear infection vaccine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Sorry Dena, no can do. The article I'm referring to is in his hardcopy newsletter. I don't even think he has an electronic newsletter. Kathleen In a message dated 8/7/2001 1:13:39 PM Central Daylight Time, dena@... writes: > Dear Holistic Mama!! > I am interested in the article, could you forward it to me? Thanks, > Doc and Dena > 15:13 > Radical and Rejected by the Establishment > www.spiritualaroma.com > ASpiritualaroma > www.netmarkpro.net/denabarnes > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Dena, it just means that parents can exempt from vaccines because of their PERSONAL beliefs. People seem to feel more comfortable with the exemption process if they can take a " beliefs " or " philosophical " exemption as opposed to the religious exemption. Doesn't matter though - if one's state does not offer the philosophical/beliefs exemption, it is easy enough to claim the religious exemption. Kathleen In a message dated 8/7/2001 1:15:53 PM Central Daylight Time, dena@... writes: > Hi, > Could someone please explain to me what " philosophical exemption " is, sorry > if this is repetitive, many blessings, > Doc and Dena > 15:13 > Radical and Rejected by the Establishment > www.spiritualaroma.com > ASpiritualaroma > > > > > > RE: Dr. Weil > > > > Kathleen, I'm sorry to hear that about Dr. Weil. Many years ago I wrote > to > > a lot of people, asking for their support re:philosophical exemptions, > > including Dr. Weil, and he wrote back telling me he did not support > > philosophical exemptions and why. At the time I was very disappointed, > and > > felt he was very superficial in his analysis, which seems out of character > > for him. I don't know that he necessarily has sold out, but he is not > very > > informed on the issue, in my mind. It really doesn't make sense, though, > > when he questions medicine in so many ways, but will not consider > > questioning this. But more important, apparently doesn't believe parents > > should have any rights where vaccines are concerned. Sandy > > > > ALL INFORMATION, DATA, AND MATERIAL CONTAINED, PRESENTED, OR PROVIDED HERE > > IS FOR GENERAL INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS > > REFLECTING THE KNOWLEDGE OR OPINIONS OF THE PUBLISHER, AND IS NOT TO BE > > CONSTRUED OR INTENDED AS PROVIDING MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 He has always been pro-vaccine, it is in his books. I e-mailed him once and asked how he could be being that he is so " natural " in his work. He never answered. He is strange in my opinion. Dr. Weil > Just out of curiosity, does anyone here subscribe to Dr. Weil's > " Self-Healing " newsletter? I've been a subscribed for about a year now and > haven't been terribly impressed with the newsletter. Seemed like fairly > basic stuff that I already knew. Anyhow, I had decided that I would NOT be > renewing my subscription. Well, along comes the August 2001 edition which > cemented that decision. > > First of all, let me say that he has no advertisers in his newsletter. But I > think he too has sold out! I believe that because he is such a prominent > name with a national following that he was approached by a drug company and > offered money for coming out as pro-vaccine. I understand that this is > actually standard operating procedure nowadays. > > You won't believe the pro-vaccine article that he wrote. It reads just like > a page from the CDC website. I'm not kidding - the words/phrases are the > exact same. He also slanted the Prevnar info so that it appears to be an ear > infection vaccine. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Dear Holistic Mama!! I am interested in the article, could you forward it to me? Thanks, Doc and Dena 15:13 Radical and Rejected by the Establishment www.spiritualaroma.com ASpiritualaroma www.netmarkpro.net/denabarnes Dr. Weil > Just out of curiosity, does anyone here subscribe to Dr. Weil's > " Self-Healing " newsletter? I've been a subscribed for about a year now and > haven't been terribly impressed with the newsletter. Seemed like fairly > basic stuff that I already knew. Anyhow, I had decided that I would NOT be > renewing my subscription. Well, along comes the August 2001 edition which > cemented that decision. > > First of all, let me say that he has no advertisers in his newsletter. But I > think he too has sold out! I believe that because he is such a prominent > name with a national following that he was approached by a drug company and > offered money for coming out as pro-vaccine. I understand that this is > actually standard operating procedure nowadays. > > You won't believe the pro-vaccine article that he wrote. It reads just like > a page from the CDC website. I'm not kidding - the words/phrases are the > exact same. He also slanted the Prevnar info so that it appears to be an ear > infection vaccine. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Hi, Could someone please explain to me what " philosophical exemption " is, sorry if this is repetitive, many blessings, Doc and Dena 15:13 Radical and Rejected by the Establishment www.spiritualaroma.com ASpiritualaroma Dr. Weil > > > Just out of curiosity, does anyone here subscribe to Dr. Weil's > " Self-Healing " newsletter? I've been a subscribed for about a year now and > haven't been terribly impressed with the newsletter. Seemed like fairly > basic stuff that I already knew. Anyhow, I had decided that I would NOT be > renewing my subscription. Well, along comes the August 2001 edition which > cemented that decision. > > First of all, let me say that he has no advertisers in his newsletter. But > I > think he too has sold out! I believe that because he is such a prominent > name with a national following that he was approached by a drug company and > offered money for coming out as pro-vaccine. I understand that this is > actually standard operating procedure nowadays. > > You won't believe the pro-vaccine article that he wrote. It reads just like > a page from the CDC website. I'm not kidding - the words/phrases are the > exact same. He also slanted the Prevnar info so that it appears to be an > ear > infection vaccine. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Dena, There are three kinds of vaccine exemptions available. All vaccine laws originate in the states. All states allow for medical exemptions, all but two (I believe) allow religious exemptions, and at this point 15 allow philosophical exemptions. There is more freedom involved in those states that allow for " philosophical exemptions " . You don't have to worry whether or not you will get into trouble and have your " religious " beliefs challenged, although so far I think whenever they have been, the " believer " has had the constitution to back him or her up (that is, unless the person panicked and ended up making it seem as if their beliefs were not genuin. - Anyone out there know more about this than I do?). But not everyone has the resources or courage to fight this kind of thing, and some end up being intimidated into vaccinating. In those states with philosophical exemptions, you still need to be informed, including that you have the right to opt out. But in most cases, if not all, a parent's rights are fairly clear. It is important to try and get philosophical exemption laws in all the states. Unfortunately, it has been going in the wrong direction. When I first got involved in this issue in the 1980's, there were 22 states with such exemptions, but we have lost 7 of them. It is also important that any philosophical exemption include the right to opt out of one or more, not require you to either have no vaccines or all of them. Hope this helps. Sandy ALL INFORMATION, DATA, AND MATERIAL CONTAINED, PRESENTED, OR PROVIDED HERE IS FOR GENERAL INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS REFLECTING THE KNOWLEDGE OR OPINIONS OF THE PUBLISHER, AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED OR INTENDED AS PROVIDING MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO VACCINATE IS AN IMPORTANT AND COMPLEX ISSUE AND SHOULD BE MADE BY YOU, AND YOU ALONE, IN CONSULTATION WITH YOUR HEALTH CARE PROVIDER. Re: Dr. Weil Hi, Could someone please explain to me what " philosophical exemption " is, sorry if this is repetitive, many blessings, Doc and Dena 15:13 Radical and Rejected by the Establishment www.spiritualaroma.com ASpiritualaroma Dr. Weil > > > Just out of curiosity, does anyone here subscribe to Dr. Weil's > " Self-Healing " newsletter? I've been a subscribed for about a year now and > haven't been terribly impressed with the newsletter. Seemed like fairly > basic stuff that I already knew. Anyhow, I had decided that I would NOT be > renewing my subscription. Well, along comes the August 2001 edition which > cemented that decision. > > First of all, let me say that he has no advertisers in his newsletter. But > I > think he too has sold out! I believe that because he is such a prominent > name with a national following that he was approached by a drug company and > offered money for coming out as pro-vaccine. I understand that this is > actually standard operating procedure nowadays. > > You won't believe the pro-vaccine article that he wrote. It reads just like > a page from the CDC website. I'm not kidding - the words/phrases are the > exact same. He also slanted the Prevnar info so that it appears to be an > ear > infection vaccine. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Harper has approached me to pursue promotional/marketing endeavors with their new book called Healthy Child, Whole Child: Integrating the Best of Conventional and Alternative Medicine, by Stuart Ditchek, M.D., and H. Greenfield, M.D. Weil wrote the forward to it. They said it's among the first books of its kind to incorporate Dr. Weil's integrative medicine philosophy with pediatrics. They say Drs. Ditchek and Greenfield are " open-minded but conventionally trained physicians. " One of the chapters of the book is: The 6 myths (and one true statement) about vaccinations I can't wait to see what they say about this and what their one true statement could possibly be! Somehow I think it's going to be very pro-vaccine. I told them to send me a review copy. I'll let you all know what it says about vaccines. I'm becoming more and more convinced that you can't truly integrate conventional and alternative medicine because the two are so completely opposite. I'm beginning to write my book soon - this one will truly be about healthy and whole children in every sense - not about injecting a child with toxins and using herbs to deal with the adverse effects. Gosh I'm so judgemental and I haven't even seen the book yet! With all I've learned, I've become pretty cynical in the last few years. Jane Sheppard Future Generations Publisher of Healthy Child Newsletter Vital Information to Protect Your Children's Health http://www.healthychild.com > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 05:50:32 EDT > From: HolisticMomma@... > Subject: Dr. Weil > > Just out of curiosity, does anyone here subscribe to Dr. Weil's > " Self-Healing " newsletter? I've been a subscribed for about a > year now and > haven't been terribly impressed with the newsletter. Seemed like fairly > basic stuff that I already knew. Anyhow, I had decided that I > would NOT be > renewing my subscription. Well, along comes the August 2001 > edition which > cemented that decision. > > First of all, let me say that he has no advertisers in his > newsletter. But I > think he too has sold out! I believe that because he is such a prominent > name with a national following that he was approached by a drug > company and > offered money for coming out as pro-vaccine. I understand that this is > actually standard operating procedure nowadays. > > You won't believe the pro-vaccine article that he wrote. It > reads just like > a page from the CDC website. I'm not kidding - the words/phrases are the > exact same. He also slanted the Prevnar info so that it appears > to be an ear > infection vaccine. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 For those of you who follow Dr. Weil's medical and dietary advice, here is an eye-opening article by Randi who is a debunker of frauds. http://www.randi.org/jr/2006-06/062306follow.html Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Here is two more on Dr Weil This one is from CSPI http://www.cspinet.org/nah/01_06/sup.pdf This one is from the former editor in chief of the NEJM http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/weil.html citpeks <citpeks@...> wrote: For those of you who follow Dr. Weil's medical and dietaryadvice, here is an eye-opening article by Randi who is adebunker of frauds.http://www.randi.org/jr/2006-06/062306follow.htmlTony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Hi folks: Well .............. just 'believing in' things is usually one heck of a lot easier than actually having to take the time and make the effort to actually **do** something instead. As regards the 'things' we discuss here, actually doing something about restricting calories comes to mind as requiring a degree of mental effort beyond the capacity of the overwhelming majority apparently. Rodney. > For those of you who follow Dr. Weil's medical and dietary > advice, here is an eye-opening article by Randi who is a > debunker of frauds. > > http://www.randi.org/jr/2006-06/062306follow.html > > Tony > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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