Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 check out the details of the "low fat" diet... as we will see.. it will be not be a low fat diet and it will be very low in fiber, and high in refined carbs... and not very high in fruits and veggies.. some things never change. Diane Walter <dianepwalter@...> wrote: Compared with a low-fat diet, Mediterranean diets supplemented witholive oil or nuts have beneficial effects on cardiovascular risk factors.http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/abstract/145/1/1-Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Jeff, I'm not a subscriber so I couldn't view the whole article (and thus the details of the diets). Can you post it? Thanks, Diane > Compared with a low-fat diet, Mediterranean diets supplemented with > olive oil or nuts have beneficial effects on cardiovascular risk factors. > > http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/abstract/145/1/1 > > -Diane > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Hi All, The effects of two Mediterranean diets have been compared with a low fat diet. A CR-like effect was observed for the particants who consumed increased levels of olive oil. The pdf is available. Table 3. Changes in Energy and Nutrient Intake* ================================================================================\ === Food---Mean Changes from baseline at 3 mo (95% CI)------Mediterranean with olive oil vs. low-fat diet---Mediterranean with nuts vs. low-fat diet ---Mediterranean with olive oil (n=257)---Mediterranean with nuts (n=257)---Low-fat diet (n=256)------ Mean (95% CI) Between-group difference, g/d^¶ Pe---Mean (95% CI) Between-group difference, g/d^¶ P ================================================================================\ === Energy, kcal -180 (-271 to -89) -34 (-140 to 67) -197 (-300 to -95) 4.5 (-139.0 to 148.0) 0.95 161 (12 to 310) 0.034 Energy from total protein, % 0.36 (-0.06 to 0.78) -0.28 (-0.69 to 0.11) 0.83 (0.38 to 1.27) -0.47 (-1.07 to 0.13) 0.122 -1.00 (-1.60 to -0.38) 0.002 Energy from total carbohydrate, % 0.33 (-0.59 to 1.26) -2.9 (-4.0 to -1.9) -0.36 (-1.50 to 0.80) 0.22 (-1.30 to 1.70) 0.84 -3.6 (-5.2 to -2.1) <0.001 Fiber, g/d 0.98 (-0.74 to 2.70) 3.8 (1.8 to 5.7) 0.60 (-0.94 to 2.20) 0.49 (-1.90 to 2.90) 0.69 2.00 (-0.54 to 4.50) 0.124 Energy from total fat, % -0.75 (-1.60 to 0.08) 3.4 (2.4 to 4.5) -1.40 (-2.50 to -0.21) 0.45 (-1.00 to 1.90) 0.55 5.0 (3.5 to 6.5) <0.001 SFA, % -0.77 (-1.00 to -0.49) -1.00 (-1.40 to -0.72) -0.74 (-1.20 to -0.31) -0.09 (-0.55 to 0.36) 0.69 0.07 (-0.40 to 0.54) 0.78 MUFA, % 0.15 (-0.39 to 0.70) 1.38 (0.81 to 2.00) -0.52 (-1.20 to 0.22) 0.58 (-0.30 to 1.45) 0.198 1.9 (1.0 to 2.8) <0.001 PUFA, % -0.11 (-0.38 to 0.17) 3.0 (2.5 to 3.6) 0.14 (-0.46 to 0.17) 0.03 (-0.53 to 0.58) 0.93 3.0 (2.4 to 3.5) <0.001 Linoleic acid, g/d -2.1 (-2.8 to -1.1) 7.6 (5.8 to 9.3) -0.68 (-1.80 to 0.44) -0.27 (-0.85 to 0.31) 0.76 1.4 (1.1 to 1.7) <0.001 Alpha-linolenic acid, g/d 0.06 (-0.17 to 0.04) 1.20 (0.92 to 1.40) -0.10 (-0.27 to 0.08) 0.03 (-0.32 to 0.25) 0.82 1.20 (0.86 to 1.50) <0.001 Marine n-3 fatty acids, g/d 0.02 (-0.05 to 0.08) 0.11 (0.01 to 0.21) 0.13 (-0.02 to 0.28) 0.11 (-0.26 to 0.04) 0.143 -0.04 (-0.20 to 0.12) 0.60 Energy from olive oil, % 2.05 (1.20 to 2.90) 0.46 (-0.41 to 1.30) 0.06 (-1.00 to 1.20) 1.9 (0.55 to 3.20) 0.006 0.17 (-1.20 to 1.50) 0.81 Energy from nuts, % 0.40 (0.01 to 0.79) 10.2 (8.7 to 12.0) -0.07 (-0.57 to 0.42) 0.03 (-1.30 to 1.40) 0.97 9.1 (7.7 to 10.0) <0.001 Cholesterol, mg/d -53 (-75 to -31) -54 (-74 to -34) -13 (-47 to 21) -38 (-152 to 76) 0.27 -42 (-165 to 80) 0.152 ================================================================ * Forty-nine participants were excluded from calculations of energy and nutrient intake because reported energy was unrealistic (see Table 2). MUFA=monounsaturated fatty acid; PUFA=polyunsaturated fatty acid; SFA=saturated fatty acid. ^¶ Adjusted for center, age, sex, and baseline body weight. Table 4. Changes in Adiposity, Blood Pressure, and Cardiovascular Risk Factors* ================================================================================\ === Food---Mean Changes from baseline at 3 mo (95% CI)------Mediterranean with olive oil vs. low-fat diet---Mediterranean with nuts vs. low-fat diet ---Mediterranean with olive oil (n=257)---Mediterranean with nuts (n=257)---Low-fat diet (n=256)------ Mean (95% CI) Between-group difference, g/d^¶ Pe---Mean (95% CI) Between-group difference, g/d^¶ P ================================================================================\ === Weight, kg -0.19 (-0.46 to 0.07) -0.26 (-0.59 to 0.08) -0.24 (-0.48 to 0.01) 0.01 (-0.39 to 0.42) 0.96 0.01 (-0.40 to 0.43) 0.95 BMI, kg/m2 -0.12 (-0.24 to 0.06) -0.09 (-0.24 to 0.05) -0.21 (-0.38 to -0.05) 0.09 (-0.12 to 0.29) 0.40 0.15 (-0.06 to 0.35) 0.165 Waist, cm -0.82 (-1.80 to 0.14) -0.29 (-0.95 to 0.37) -0.37 (-1.20 to 0.44) -0.52 (-1.60 to 0.61) 0.37 0.12 (-1.00 to 1.30) 0.84 Systolic BP, mm Hg -4.8 (-6.7 to -2.7) -6.5 (-8.7 to -4.3) 0.64 (-1.30 to 2.30) -5.9 (-8.7 to -3.1) <0.001 -7.1 (-10.0 to -4.1) <0.001 Diastolic BP, mm Hg -2.5 (-3.5 to -1.5) -3.6 (-4.7 to -2.5) -0.85 (-1.79 to 0.09) -1.60 (-3.00 to -0.01) 0.048 -2.6 (-4.2 to 1.0) 0.001 Fasting glucose level 0.017 0.039 mmol/L -0.21 (-0.41 to -0.01) -0.14 (-0.31 to 0.03) 0.19 (-0.06 to 0.04) -0.39 (-0.72 to -0.07) -0.30 (-0.58 to -0.01) mg/dL -3.8 (-7.4 to -0.2) -2.5 (-5.5 to 0.5) 3.5 (-1.0 to 8.0) -7.0 (-13.0 to -1.3) -5.4 (-10.5 to -0.2) Fasting insulin level, pmol/L^¶¶ -9.7 (-15.3 to -3.8) -9.7 (-15.9 to -3.5) 6.5 (-3.8 to 16.7) -16.7 (-27.1 to -0.4) 0.001 -20.4 (-31.9 to -9.7) <0.001 HOMA index^¶¶ -0.53 (-0.83 to -0.23) -0.54 (-0.82 to -0.26) 0.32 (-0.15 to 0.79) -0.91 (-1.40 to -0.46) <0.001 -1.1 (-1.6 to -0.55) <0.001 Total cholesterol level 0.26 0.040 mmol/L -0.10 (-0.21 to 0.01) -0.13 (-0.22 to -0.04) 0.02 (-0.10 to 0.14) -0.09 (-0.25 to 0.07) -0.16 (-0.31 to -0.01) mg/dL -3.90 (-8.10 to 0.35) -5.0 (-8.6 to -1.4) 0.74 (-3.80 to 5.30) -3.5 (-9.5 to 2.6) -6.20 (-12.00 to -0.28) LDL cholesterol level 0.177 0.119 mmol/L -0.15 (-0.25 to -0.05) -0.10 (-0.19 to -0.01) -0.15 (-0.12 to 0.09) -0.10 (-0.25 to 0.04) -0.09 (-0.23 to 0.05) mg/dL -5.8 (-9.8 to -1.8) -3.80 (-7.30 to -0.39) -0.56 (-4.60 to 3.50) -3.9 (-9.5 to 1.7) -3.4 (-8.9 to 2.1) HDL cholesterol level <0.001 0.006 mmol/L 0.62 (0.08 to 0.04) 0.020 (0.002 to 0.050) -0.01 (-0.03 to 0.01) 0.08 (0.04 to 0.10) 0.04 (0.01 to 0.07) mg/dL 2.4 (3.1 to 1.6) 0.94 (0.10 to 1.80) -0.37 (-1.20 to 0.40) 2.9 (1.7 to 4.0) 1.60 (0.45 to 2.70) Triglyceride level 0.21 0.022 mmol/L -0.03 (-0.13 to 0.07) -0.09 (-0.16 to -0.01) 0.03 (-0.05 to 0.10) -0.08 (-0.20 to 0.04) -0.15 (-0.26 to -0.02) mg/dL -3.0 (-11.8 to 5.9) -7.6 (-14.0 to -1.1) 2.4 (-4.4 to 9.2) -7.1 (-18.0 to 3.9) -13.0 (-23.0 to -1.9) Cholesterol-HDL cholesterol ratio -0.32 (-0.45 to -0.18) -0.17 (-0.27 to -0.02) 0.06 (-0.05 to 0.16) -0.38 (-0.55 to -0.22) <0.001 -0.26 (-0.42 to -0.10) 0.002 ================================================================ * BMI=body mass index; BP=blood pressure; HDL=high-density lipoprotein; HOMA=homeostasis model assessment (a measure of insulin resistance); LDL=low-density lipoprotein. ^¶ Adjusted for center, age, sex, and baseline body weight. ^¶¶ Determined only for 305 participants without diabetes (95 in the Mediterranean diet with olive oil group, 110 in the Mediterranean diet with nuts group, and 100 in the low-fat diet group). ...limitation is that nutritional education about low-fat diet was less intense than education about Mediterranean diets. In fact, fat intake was only marginally reduced in the group assigned to the low-fat diet. This was partly because of the study design but also because participants belonged to a Mediterranean culture, where people prefer using olive oil. Because the low-fat diet was not the usual diet, participants in this group also changed food habits in a healthy way. Therefore, the differences in outcomes observed between the Mediterranean diet groups and the low-fat diet group might be attributed to the supplemental foods provided. The duration of follow-up of only 3 months cannot be considered a major limitation because effects of dietary interventions on risk factors do not need a long induction period (44, 45, 53) and seem to persist as long as adherence is maintained (12, 48, 49). ... --- Diane Walter <dianepwalter@...> wrote: > Compared with a low-fat diet, Mediterranean diets supplemented with > olive oil or nuts have beneficial effects on cardiovascular risk factors. > > http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/abstract/145/1/1 -- Al Pater, PhD; email: old542000@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 let me know if this comes thru JSNDiane Walter <dianepwalter@...> wrote: Jeff,I'm not a subscriber so I couldn't view the whole article (and thusthe details of the diets). Can you post it?Thanks,Diane> Compared with a low-fat diet, Mediterranean dietssupplemented with> olive oil or nuts have beneficial effects on cardiovascular riskfactors.> > http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/abstract/145/1/1> > -Diane> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Hi Al: It would really help if you could explain the column labels that go along with the tables. For example, excluding the 95% CI data - which are in parentheses - there are seven columns in the first table. Could you possibly identify for us what each of those columns are please? I have tried to relate those seven columns to the labels listed above, but I cannot figure out which labels apply. -------------------- On entirely different point, are not the study's conclusions totally discredited by the quote: " ... In fact, fat intake was only marginally reduced in the group assigned to the low-fat diet " ? Are they not saying, in other words, that the people they **label** as on a low fat diet WERE NOT ON A LOW FAT DIET? Unless I misunderstand that quotation it makes the entire conclusion of the study laughable. If I am mistaken I would appreciate someone pointing out what it is I have misunderstood. I have a number of other misgivings based on what I see here, but will refrain from raising them until I see the study in more detail. Rodney. > > > Compared with a low-fat diet, Mediterranean diets supplemented with > > olive oil or nuts have beneficial effects on cardiovascular risk factors. > > > > http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/abstract/145/1/1 > > -- Al Pater, PhD; email: old542000@... > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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