Guest guest Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 At 05:39 PM 4/9/2006, you wrote: >My question is about transitioning to a more fruit-and-vegetable >oriented diet. Dr. Walford's menus contain eggs, grains, dairy, and >meat, and I would like to start moving away from these foods and >using even larger quantities of fruits and veggies. I noticed in the >earlier posts of this website that many of you were following the >Zone Diet, which I understand to be heavily meat-based, and I'm >wondering what folks have transitioned to since the Zone Diet has >been debunked. You can definitely eat a vegetarian diet; vegan might be a little tough (that would mean incredible amounts of tofu, tempeh, black soybeans, as well as more processed soybean products such as boca burgers and soy protein powder.) If you like nonfat cottage cheese, high protein intake is no problem. It's true that the detailed claims that Barry Sears makes on how the Zone Diet manipulates eicosanoids haven't held up. On the other hand, it's definitely a CR diet, and ought to have many benefits. If you find that eating that way keeps your energy intake down, I think that's OK. The " ON " half might be a bit more of a problem; perhaps eating so much protein means that you don't eat some other things. >Should I just do a calorie-for-calorie substitution of fruits and >veggies for any dairy and meat in my menus? I am not proposing this >new style of eating for ethical reasons about animals, but rather >simply to continue with my experimentation and optimization of my >plan for nutritional reasons. For example, I would not want to cut >out fish because of its omega-3 properties, and right now this is >the only animal flesh I'm using. Letting go of dairy may be more of >a psychological battle for me. For those of you not using dairy, >is your calcium intake through supplements? And I would appreciate >any suggestions for transitioning to a more vegetable-based eating >style. Tofu has a lot of calcium. So do soy milks, leafy greens and many other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 At 05:39 PM 4/9/2006, you wrote: >My question is about transitioning to a more fruit-and-vegetable >oriented diet. Dr. Walford's menus contain eggs, grains, dairy, and >meat, and I would like to start moving away from these foods and >using even larger quantities of fruits and veggies. I noticed in the >earlier posts of this website that many of you were following the >Zone Diet, which I understand to be heavily meat-based, and I'm >wondering what folks have transitioned to since the Zone Diet has >been debunked. You can definitely eat a vegetarian diet; vegan might be a little tough (that would mean incredible amounts of tofu, tempeh, black soybeans, as well as more processed soybean products such as boca burgers and soy protein powder.) If you like nonfat cottage cheese, high protein intake is no problem. It's true that the detailed claims that Barry Sears makes on how the Zone Diet manipulates eicosanoids haven't held up. On the other hand, it's definitely a CR diet, and ought to have many benefits. If you find that eating that way keeps your energy intake down, I think that's OK. The " ON " half might be a bit more of a problem; perhaps eating so much protein means that you don't eat some other things. >Should I just do a calorie-for-calorie substitution of fruits and >veggies for any dairy and meat in my menus? I am not proposing this >new style of eating for ethical reasons about animals, but rather >simply to continue with my experimentation and optimization of my >plan for nutritional reasons. For example, I would not want to cut >out fish because of its omega-3 properties, and right now this is >the only animal flesh I'm using. Letting go of dairy may be more of >a psychological battle for me. For those of you not using dairy, >is your calcium intake through supplements? And I would appreciate >any suggestions for transitioning to a more vegetable-based eating >style. Tofu has a lot of calcium. So do soy milks, leafy greens and many other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 The most nutrient dense foods you can eat are the foods you are wanting to transition to eating more of. You should be worrying less, not more about eating better. Fresh fruits, veggies, legumes are some of the most nutrient dense foods and also some of the lowest in calorie density. Your body doesnt require the Zone diet (or any diet) or anywhere near the amount of protein most of these diets recommend. Your body needs to meet its nutritional needs and in the great scheme of things, protein may not be the one you have to worry about the most. The best thing to do is to enter your food intake into a nutritional program (Such as fitday) and see where you are at. Then begin to make substitutions that you want, and see the results. Keep your eye on all the microminerals, phytochemicals and antioxidants, along with all the known vitamin and minerals. Dark green leafys are excellent sources of not only calcium, but most other nutrients also. My suggestion... Go For It!! Regards Jeff ________________________________ From: on behalf of pink.parsley Sent: Sun 04/09/06 5:39 PM Subject: [ ] New + a few questions Hi, I have been lurking for a couple of weeks and tried to read through many of the messages here. I read Walford last fall and in January began a CRON diet following the meal plans suggested in Dr. Walford's book. BTW, I'm a 46-year-old female. I started by alternating days of Walford menus/my own regular menus (and attempting to cut out junk), until I had upped it to 7 days of Walford meals. I never used fitday or any other nutritional software and simply follow the menus from the book as closely as I can, with some variations for my own preferences. I also take a multivitamin daily. I'm down 23 pounds since January 4. This weight loss was the result of both the Walford menus and an exercise regime consisting of 30 minutes twice weekly of some arm and leg weight lifting, usually with an exercise video, and jogging 3-5 miles three times a week at about 10 minutes per mile pace. I realize my weight loss has been rather quick, but I felt so good that my motivation went through the roof, and I continued on with the plan. I am about 12 pounds away from a BMI of 22. My question is about transitioning to a more fruit-and-vegetable oriented diet. Dr. Walford's menus contain eggs, grains, dairy, and meat, and I would like to start moving away from these foods and using even larger quantities of fruits and veggies. I noticed in the earlier posts of this website that many of you were following the Zone Diet, which I understand to be heavily meat-based, and I'm wondering what folks have transitioned to since the Zone Diet has been debunked. Should I just do a calorie-for-calorie substitution of fruits and veggies for any dairy and meat in my menus? I am not proposing this new style of eating for ethical reasons about animals, but rather simply to continue with my experimentation and optimization of my plan for nutritional reasons. For example, I would not want to cut out fish because of its omega-3 properties, and right now this is the only animal flesh I'm using. Letting go of dairy may be more of a psychological battle for me. For those of you not using dairy, is your calcium intake through supplements? And I would appreciate any suggestions for transitioning to a more vegetable-based eating style. Thanks for the great website; I hope to lurk more in the future! Chloe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 The most nutrient dense foods you can eat are the foods you are wanting to transition to eating more of. You should be worrying less, not more about eating better. Fresh fruits, veggies, legumes are some of the most nutrient dense foods and also some of the lowest in calorie density. Your body doesnt require the Zone diet (or any diet) or anywhere near the amount of protein most of these diets recommend. Your body needs to meet its nutritional needs and in the great scheme of things, protein may not be the one you have to worry about the most. The best thing to do is to enter your food intake into a nutritional program (Such as fitday) and see where you are at. Then begin to make substitutions that you want, and see the results. Keep your eye on all the microminerals, phytochemicals and antioxidants, along with all the known vitamin and minerals. Dark green leafys are excellent sources of not only calcium, but most other nutrients also. My suggestion... Go For It!! Regards Jeff ________________________________ From: on behalf of pink.parsley Sent: Sun 04/09/06 5:39 PM Subject: [ ] New + a few questions Hi, I have been lurking for a couple of weeks and tried to read through many of the messages here. I read Walford last fall and in January began a CRON diet following the meal plans suggested in Dr. Walford's book. BTW, I'm a 46-year-old female. I started by alternating days of Walford menus/my own regular menus (and attempting to cut out junk), until I had upped it to 7 days of Walford meals. I never used fitday or any other nutritional software and simply follow the menus from the book as closely as I can, with some variations for my own preferences. I also take a multivitamin daily. I'm down 23 pounds since January 4. This weight loss was the result of both the Walford menus and an exercise regime consisting of 30 minutes twice weekly of some arm and leg weight lifting, usually with an exercise video, and jogging 3-5 miles three times a week at about 10 minutes per mile pace. I realize my weight loss has been rather quick, but I felt so good that my motivation went through the roof, and I continued on with the plan. I am about 12 pounds away from a BMI of 22. My question is about transitioning to a more fruit-and-vegetable oriented diet. Dr. Walford's menus contain eggs, grains, dairy, and meat, and I would like to start moving away from these foods and using even larger quantities of fruits and veggies. I noticed in the earlier posts of this website that many of you were following the Zone Diet, which I understand to be heavily meat-based, and I'm wondering what folks have transitioned to since the Zone Diet has been debunked. Should I just do a calorie-for-calorie substitution of fruits and veggies for any dairy and meat in my menus? I am not proposing this new style of eating for ethical reasons about animals, but rather simply to continue with my experimentation and optimization of my plan for nutritional reasons. For example, I would not want to cut out fish because of its omega-3 properties, and right now this is the only animal flesh I'm using. Letting go of dairy may be more of a psychological battle for me. For those of you not using dairy, is your calcium intake through supplements? And I would appreciate any suggestions for transitioning to a more vegetable-based eating style. Thanks for the great website; I hope to lurk more in the future! Chloe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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