Re: courage and depression

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Lynn: It isn't a matter of being braver. Depression, anxiety and all that go with it are not states you "pull yourself out of." But there is one thing I can say from personal experience about depression. It does not last forever. It can settle in for awhile, it's true, but nothing as intense as depression can sustain itself forever. If you can just hang on, continue to see your counselor, and, if you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on some more. Bravery is not the issue. It takes a lot of courage to raise two little girls while feeling like you do. Don't ever doubt that. I was in and out of depression for a good part of my life. With the medications available today, you do not have to suffer without help. Has your counselor considered an antidepressant? Lynn Siprelle <lynn@...> wrote: Hi folks--I am really struggling with depression. I've already subjected y'all to my "tale of woe and intrigue," as the Car Talk guys say, so I won't repeat that (and I apologize for that, I just don't have anyone to talk to who understands). I'm just having so much trouble trusting in life and finding courage. I'm on high doses of calcium channel blocker now and it causes such side effects. At least once a day I get so tired and weak; my blood pressure drops. I'm frightened, depressed, worried, anxious. I've talked to my

doctor and he says I just need to learn to live with it, and I'm not sure I have the courage to. I don't have much choice; I have two little girls. But I don't know how I'm going to get through this. I'm seeing a counselor. I guess it's just a matter of time, I just wish I were braver.Lynn------Mama, homeschooler, writer, activist, spinner & knitterhttp://www.siprelle.comNOTICE: The National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice.What if the Hokey Pokey is really what it's all about???.

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> Has your counselor considered an antidepressant?

I was on Prozac for ~15 years off and on, mostly on, previous to my

last round of heart trouble. My cardiologist took me off of it, I'm not

entirely sure why; I think he found some possible slim correlation

between my condition and prozac use. Best I could find in the

literature was a study that showed increased death rates among people

with coronary artery disease who took prozac, but the study was not

definitive; the researchers stressed that it may only be that the more

progressed the disease was, the more depressed the patients were and

thus the more likely they were to be on SSRIs. My doctor was grasping

at straws at the time; no one could figure out what the hell was going

on, no one could stop my angina, and he was trying to eliminate as many

variables as possible. Adding to the confusion, I don't have coronary

artery disease; my angiogram is " the cleanest I've ever seen, " I

overheard one of the doctors say to a nurse (keeping in mind that

mostly what those guys see are very diseased hearts). So who knows. I'm

a little reluctant to go on yet another medication.

Thanks for the buck-up.

Lynn

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i was 13 i was on prozac i was taken off of it after it was foudn to be causwing a increased amount of arrythmias as my ep said it was a side effect of the prozac i was neverput on anything thing easle as the risk where high now i dont need thim but when i was younger i did stacie,23 shocking life for shocking peopleLynn Siprelle <lynn@...> wrote: > Has your counselor considered an antidepressant?I was on

Prozac for ~15 years off and on, mostly on, previous to my last round of heart trouble. My cardiologist took me off of it, I'm not entirely sure why; I think he found some possible slim correlation between my condition and prozac use. Best I could find in the literature was a study that showed increased death rates among people with coronary artery disease who took prozac, but the study was not definitive; the researchers stressed that it may only be that the more progressed the disease was, the more depressed the patients were and thus the more likely they were to be on SSRIs. My doctor was grasping at straws at the time; no one could figure out what the hell was going on, no one could stop my angina, and he was trying to eliminate as many variables as possible. Adding to the confusion, I don't have coronary artery disease; my angiogram is "the cleanest I've ever seen," I overheard one of the doctors say to a nurse

(keeping in mind that mostly what those guys see are very diseased hearts). So who knows. I'm a little reluctant to go on yet another medication.Thanks for the buck-up. :)Lynn------Mama, homeschooler, writer, activist, spinner & knitterhttp://www.siprelle.comNOTICE: The National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice.

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----- Original Message -----

From: " Lynn Siprelle "

> I am really struggling with depression. . . .

> I'm just having so much trouble trusting in

> life and finding courage. . . . I'm frightened,

> depressed, worried, anxious. . . . I don't

> know how I'm going to get through this.

Lynn:

Time for me to get on my slopbox. (No, I didn't mean soapbox. Slopbox. I

have so many dirty thoughts that I can no longer buy a belt that fits.

Seems they don't have anything that goes around a toxic waist.

Okay, Lynn, I'm gonna tell you the secret to cure depression. And there are

no drugs, no alcohol and no one who looks like Brad Pitt involved in it.

(Of course a couple of drinks with Brad and a few aspirins as a precaution

against getting an inopportune time headache, would probably work, too. But

not for me.)

The way to prevent depression is humor. It's pretty tough to be depressed

if you are laughing hysterically. (It's also pretty tough to keep a partner

if you are laughing all the time, so you've got to be a little selective at

when you laugh. also some men might not be too enamored with you depending

on what you laugh at. So let's be careful in how we approach this.

Laughter is known to cure depression. In the most famous medical case, a

beautiful young virgin was in love with a handsome prince who didn't even

know she was alive. Of course, there was no chance at all that he ever

would. After all, who believes that someone named Charming who cared about

women's shoes and wore tights was interested in girls at all? Fortunately

laughter releases wonderful chemicals that fight and destroy depression.

And so the story of Snow White and the Seven Endorfins has a happy ending.

(And in case you were wondering, she avoided the Apple because it wasn't

PC.)

The first thing is to decide if you need or even need a partner to make you

laugh. If you do, the obvious choice is to pick a clown. Clowns have a lot

of advantages, but getting one is not as easy as it sounds. Most clowns are

snapped up by unsuspecting brides who then are faced with a husband who is

all slapstick comedy instead of serious breadwinning, housework or waiting

outside dress shops. Worse yet, some new husbands are all slap and stick,

but that is definitely for a different kind of ICD--Interesting Carnal

Desires. Clowns have great advantages for women. they never ask you to

iron their clothes, you don't have to cook for them, and all they really

want you to do is keep their seltzer bottle filled. And the best part is

those huge feet. You women know what they say about men with big feet,

don't you? Of course, you have to be careful not to leave any cream pies

around the house. And then there's make-up. You never know when your clown

is going to use up all your make-up in one morning.

So you need to find a good place to select your clown. Mc's is a good

start, but they're all named , and you've got to be careful about what

you say about his Big Mac. Washington D.C. is another good place to look.

Lots of clowns there, but they tend to make you cry instead of laugh.

Besides that, a lot of them are lawyers, and that makes getting rid of

depression very difficult. And then there are the bars, especially the

singles' bars, which got their name from the single digit IQ's that go

there. You want a clown? Those places are full of Bozos.

If you don't want a clown, and you don't need a partner, there are always

books and movies. For those of you from California (where I now live),

contact me off-forum, and I'll try to explain to you what a book is. There

are a lot of books that will make you laugh. The telephone book will work.

Lots of funny characters there, but the plot's not too interesting. Stay

away from your checkbook, though. That'll probnably make you cry. As for

movies, the best are those with Shatner, especially the Star Drek

series. Don't bother with movies that star ie Shore, Rob Schneider or

Al Gore.

If none of these methods work for you. And if you really are truly

depressed, there is one absolute way a woman can get rid of all her

depression. Go shopping. Shopping won't make you laugh, but if you call

your husband and tell him you're at 's, just the thought of what his

facial expression is will make all your depression leave.

Well there's the solution. Of course there are other things you can do.

Buy your hubby a thong bikini and make him model it. Serve him haggis for

his birthday. Play a Barry Manilow album while he's watching football on

television. Those may sound like vicious thigs to do to one's spouse, but

after all, isn't being vivious the real reason why people get married?

From California where the best part about depression is that you don't have

to smile at your boss, your in-laws or any of this drivel.

Best.

Bill

PS: find funny movies, comedy shows on TV, anything that makes you laugh.

It really does release the endorfins that fight/destroy depression.

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Are you on antidepressants? A lot of heart docs prescribed

these as a matter of course in the beginning stages after

implantation. It's normal to be frightened, depressed,

worried and anxious. It will get better. Really.

M

On Sep 17, 2006, at 9:58 PM, Lynn Siprelle wrote:

> Hi folks--

>

> I am really struggling with depression. I've already subjected y'all to

> my " tale of woe and intrigue, " as the Car Talk guys say, so I won't

> repeat that (and I apologize for that, I just don't have anyone to talk

> to who understands). I'm just having so much trouble trusting in life

> and finding courage. I'm on high doses of calcium channel blocker now

> and it causes such side effects. At least once a day I get so tired and

> weak; my blood pressure drops. I'm frightened, depressed, worried,

> anxious. I've talked to my doctor and he says I just need to learn to

> live with it, and I'm not sure I have the courage to. I don't have much

> choice; I have two little girls. But I don't know how I'm going to get

> through this. I'm seeing a counselor. I guess it's just a matter of

> time, I just wish I were braver.

>

> Lynn

>

> ------

> Mama, homeschooler, writer, activist, spinner & knitter

> http://www.siprelle.com

>

> NOTICE: The National Security Agency may have read this email without

> warning, warrant, or notice.

>

>

>

> Please visit the Zapper homepage at

> http://www.ZapLife.org

>

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there are other antidepressants that may work better. Your PCP may

be able to help with that. Zoloft and Wellbutrin come to mind. Think

of it as short term therapy.

M

On Sep 17, 2006, at 11:08 PM, Lynn Siprelle wrote:

>> Has your counselor considered an antidepressant?

>

> I was on Prozac for ~15 years off and on, mostly on, previous to my

> last round of heart trouble. My cardiologist took me off of it, I'm not

> entirely sure why; I think he found some possible slim correlation

> between my condition and prozac use. Best I could find in the

> literature was a study that showed increased death rates among people

> with coronary artery disease who took prozac, but the study was not

> definitive; the researchers stressed that it may only be that the more

> progressed the disease was, the more depressed the patients were and

> thus the more likely they were to be on SSRIs. My doctor was grasping

> at straws at the time; no one could figure out what the hell was going

> on, no one could stop my angina, and he was trying to eliminate as many

> variables as possible. Adding to the confusion, I don't have coronary

> artery disease; my angiogram is " the cleanest I've ever seen, " I

> overheard one of the doctors say to a nurse (keeping in mind that

> mostly what those guys see are very diseased hearts). So who knows. I'm

> a little reluctant to go on yet another medication.

>

> Thanks for the buck-up.

>

> Lynn

>

> ------

> Mama, homeschooler, writer, activist, spinner & knitter

> http://www.siprelle.com

>

> NOTICE: The National Security Agency may have read this email without

> warning, warrant, or notice.

>

>

>

> Please visit the Zapper homepage at

> http://www.ZapLife.org

>

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Bill -- this is very good stuff. And you're right. It works.

M

On Sep 18, 2006, at 12:36 AM, billmahan wrote:

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Lynn Siprelle "

>

>> I am really struggling with depression. . . .

>> I'm just having so much trouble trusting in

>> life and finding courage. . . . I'm frightened,

>> depressed, worried, anxious. . . . I don't

>> know how I'm going to get through this.

>

> Lynn:

>

> Time for me to get on my slopbox. (No, I didn't mean soapbox.

> Slopbox. I

> have so many dirty thoughts that I can no longer buy a belt that fits.

> Seems they don't have anything that goes around a toxic waist.

>

> Okay, Lynn, I'm gonna tell you the secret to cure depression. And

> there are

> no drugs, no alcohol and no one who looks like Brad Pitt involved in

> it.

> (Of course a couple of drinks with Brad and a few aspirins as a

> precaution

> against getting an inopportune time headache, would probably work,

> too. But

> not for me.)

>

> The way to prevent depression is humor. It's pretty tough to be

> depressed

> if you are laughing hysterically. (It's also pretty tough to keep a

> partner

> if you are laughing all the time, so you've got to be a little

> selective at

> when you laugh. also some men might not be too enamored with you

> depending

> on what you laugh at. So let's be careful in how we approach this.

>

> Laughter is known to cure depression. In the most famous medical

> case, a

> beautiful young virgin was in love with a handsome prince who didn't

> even

> know she was alive. Of course, there was no chance at all that he ever

> would. After all, who believes that someone named Charming who cared

> about

> women's shoes and wore tights was interested in girls at all?

> Fortunately

> laughter releases wonderful chemicals that fight and destroy

> depression.

> And so the story of Snow White and the Seven Endorfins has a happy

> ending.

> (And in case you were wondering, she avoided the Apple because it

> wasn't

> PC.)

>

> The first thing is to decide if you need or even need a partner to

> make you

> laugh. If you do, the obvious choice is to pick a clown. Clowns have

> a lot

> of advantages, but getting one is not as easy as it sounds. Most

> clowns are

> snapped up by unsuspecting brides who then are faced with a husband

> who is

> all slapstick comedy instead of serious breadwinning, housework or

> waiting

> outside dress shops. Worse yet, some new husbands are all slap and

> stick,

> but that is definitely for a different kind of ICD--Interesting Carnal

> Desires. Clowns have great advantages for women. they never ask you

> to

> iron their clothes, you don't have to cook for them, and all they

> really

> want you to do is keep their seltzer bottle filled. And the best part

> is

> those huge feet. You women know what they say about men with big feet,

> don't you? Of course, you have to be careful not to leave any cream

> pies

> around the house. And then there's make-up. You never know when your

> clown

> is going to use up all your make-up in one morning.

>

> So you need to find a good place to select your clown. Mc's is

> a good

> start, but they're all named , and you've got to be careful

> about what

> you say about his Big Mac. Washington D.C. is another good place to

> look.

> Lots of clowns there, but they tend to make you cry instead of laugh.

> Besides that, a lot of them are lawyers, and that makes getting rid of

> depression very difficult. And then there are the bars, especially the

> singles' bars, which got their name from the single digit IQ's that go

> there. You want a clown? Those places are full of Bozos.

>

> If you don't want a clown, and you don't need a partner, there are

> always

> books and movies. For those of you from California (where I now live),

> contact me off-forum, and I'll try to explain to you what a book is.

> There

> are a lot of books that will make you laugh. The telephone book will

> work.

> Lots of funny characters there, but the plot's not too interesting.

> Stay

> away from your checkbook, though. That'll probnably make you cry. As

> for

> movies, the best are those with Shatner, especially the Star

> Drek

> series. Don't bother with movies that star ie Shore, Rob

> Schneider or

> Al Gore.

>

> If none of these methods work for you. And if you really are truly

> depressed, there is one absolute way a woman can get rid of all her

> depression. Go shopping. Shopping won't make you laugh, but if you

> call

> your husband and tell him you're at 's, just the thought of

> what his

> facial expression is will make all your depression leave.

>

> Well there's the solution. Of course there are other things you can

> do.

> Buy your hubby a thong bikini and make him model it. Serve him haggis

> for

> his birthday. Play a Barry Manilow album while he's watching

> football on

> television. Those may sound like vicious thigs to do to one's spouse,

> but

> after all, isn't being vivious the real reason why people get married?

>

> From California where the best part about depression is that you don't

> have

> to smile at your boss, your in-laws or any of this drivel.

>

> Best.

>

> Bill

>

> PS: find funny movies, comedy shows on TV, anything that makes you

> laugh.

> It really does release the endorfins that fight/destroy depression.

>

>

>

> Please visit the Zapper homepage at

> http://www.ZapLife.org

>

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I was told by my cardiologist that i can not take zoloft or wellbutrin, so don't take anything without checking with your heart doctor first. It also depends on the medications you are currently taking. Zoloft doesn't mix well with my heart medication. I take Lexapro, it's mild, safe, and works. My experience over the last 24 years, since i was diagnosed with VT, is u ask your heart doctor, u ask your pharmacist, and u research the medication on-line (PDR) to make sure it's safe for you. It's best to be safe. Hiranuma <mhiranuma@...> wrote: there are other antidepressants that may work better. Your PCP maybe able to help with that. Zoloft and Wellbutrin come to mind. Thinkof it as short term therapy.MOn Sep 17, 2006, at 11:08 PM, Lynn Siprelle wrote:>> Has your counselor considered an antidepressant?>> I was on Prozac for ~15 years off and on, mostly on, previous to my> last round of heart trouble. My cardiologist took me off of it, I'm not> entirely sure why; I think he found some possible slim correlation> between my condition and prozac use. Best I could find in the> literature was a study that showed increased death rates among people> with coronary artery disease who took prozac, but the study was not> definitive; the researchers stressed that it may only be that the more> progressed the disease was, the more depressed the patients were

and> thus the more likely they were to be on SSRIs. My doctor was grasping> at straws at the time; no one could figure out what the hell was going> on, no one could stop my angina, and he was trying to eliminate as many> variables as possible. Adding to the confusion, I don't have coronary> artery disease; my angiogram is "the cleanest I've ever seen," I> overheard one of the doctors say to a nurse (keeping in mind that> mostly what those guys see are very diseased hearts). So who knows. I'm> a little reluctant to go on yet another medication.>> Thanks for the buck-up. >> Lynn>> ------> Mama, homeschooler, writer, activist, spinner & knitter> http://www.siprelle.com>> NOTICE: The National Security Agency may have read this email without> warning, warrant, or

notice.>>>> Please visit the Zapper homepage at> http://www.ZapLife.org>

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So one of my greatest fears happened today--not quite the whole nine

yards, my ICD didn't fire and I didn't get carted off in the ambulance,

but I had a flurry of heart weirdness that left me sufficiently

lightheaded and foggy enough that the cardiologists sent me to the ER.

I'm fine. They didn't keep me and I'm home safe and sound. Exhausted

but safe. That's actually progress for me; I went to the ER, didn't get

admitted, and didn't freak out.

Lynn

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Pretty Cool Joe !!!

Toni

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Lynn,

I had a mechanical

heart valve installed 15 years ago and was fine until spring of 2005. I now have a stent and ICD and frequent

fears that my aches and pains are something to do with my heart and not

something related to my 63 years of mistreating my body. Most of the mistreatment has been not

eating properly and I have been dealing with diabetes for five years or so.

I don’t think it is

possible to have a major event like having an ICD installed without having some

mental reaction. Most folks would

think that I am happy go lucky and always joking around but I can assure them

that sometimes I really get down. I

don’t seem to be able to make decisions but I think that is another problem.

I sometimes wonder

why me? Then I wonder what am I

doing that makes God want to keep me on this earth a little longer. For me I am doing some volunteer work

at church that I am not aware of anyone else being able to do. I help with computer / office related

stuff and enjoy the fact that I am contributing more than some people enjoy

golf. Different strokes for

different folks! I prefer

keystrokes! I have other jobs such

as husband, dad, grandpa and friend that keep me busy.

Over the years I

have developed a list of truths as I see them.

The doctors are

only practicing medicine. It isn’t

as simple as 1 + 1 = 2.5 using the new math.

Half of the doctors

graduated in the bottom half of their class. Some of those are the best because they try harder.

You are responsible

for questioning what the doctor is doing and challenging him or her.

I tell my Primary Care

Provider (PCP) that his job is to keep me healthy until I die.

I am going to do my

best to “live” until I die.

Nobody said life

was easy!

My PCP and I agreed

that getting older wasn’t for wimps or sissies.

My PCP said my job

was to keep the doctors scratching their heads and I was doing a good job.

A relative who is a

doctor said that all my exercising probably won’t make me live any longer but

should keep me healthier until I die.

Had I not been exercising in the spring of 2005 I might have had a heart

attack. Instead I was able to

notice that I was working harder than usual and my PCP was on the ball and had

me do a stress test.

I have arthritis in

my chest and shoulder and I get very concerned that I have a more serious heart

problem. My PCP also said to learn

to live with it. Being on blood

thinners because of the valve, I am used to the idea that many of the powerful

medicines are not for me. I would

rather the arthritis was in my big toe so I didn’t confuse the pain with my

ticker.

My valve clicks

like an old Timex and I figure that God gave me that to help me calm babies

when I hold them. One of my

favorite photos of me is one where I am holding a baby at a family reunion. Somehow I don’t look so old holding the

baby. Or the baby is much cuter

than me so you don’t notice me.

I think you said it

all when you said you don’t have a choice because you have two little girls. I hope they are the joy of your life

and maybe the reason that you are still with us. God has a plan but I’ll be darned if I can figure it out.

I’m sorry if I

offended anyone with my beliefs but they are what keep me going some days.

Joe Schmidt

God Loves Us All

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From:

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Siprelle

Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006

12:58 AM

Subject: courage and

depression

Hi folks--

I am really struggling with depression. I've already subjected y'all to

my " tale of woe and intrigue, " as the Car Talk guys say, so I won't

repeat that (and I apologize for that, I just don't have anyone to talk

to who understands). I'm just having so much trouble trusting in life

and finding courage. I'm on high doses of calcium channel blocker now

and it causes such side effects. At least once a day I get so tired and

weak; my blood pressure drops. I'm frightened, depressed, worried,

anxious. I've talked to my doctor and he says I just need to learn to

live with it, and I'm not sure I have the courage to. I don't have much

choice; I have two little girls. But I don't know how I'm going to get

through this. I'm seeing a counselor. I guess it's just a matter of

time, I just wish I were braver.

Lynn

------

Mama, homeschooler, writer, activist, spinner & knitter

http://www.siprelle.com

NOTICE: The National Security Agency may have read this email without

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Offend anyone here? I wouldn't worry about it, Jow. Anyone here has a zapper/or a family member does, and if we/they are around to read this, they're too busy enjoying life to be offended. Your message comes through loud and clear, 5 x 5 as the comm check people say. (Not to be confused with Mr. Five By Five of many years ago.)

From California where the crows wouldn't land on the barbed wire or pickets because they were off-fencive.

Bill

From California where

RE: courage and depression

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> . . . I’m sorry if I offended anyone . . .

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I felt the same way you did after my surgery I had a IDC implanted 12/13/05

I was so scared & afraid to move or do anything the Dr put me on Lexapro a antidepressant 10 mg once a day I also take xanax 1mg at night to help me sleep. You will get better it takes time but you will I promise. These guys at the support group helped me so much I'm glad I had them I thought I was going nuts. Let me know how you do.

Lynn from Florida. LTristrem@...

Re: courage and depression

----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Siprelle"> I am really struggling with depression. . . .> I'm just having so much trouble trusting in> life and finding courage. . . . I'm frightened,> depressed, worried, anxious. . . . I don't> know how I'm going to get through this.Lynn:Time for me to get on my slopbox. (No, I didn't mean soapbox. Slopbox. I have so many dirty thoughts that I can no longer buy a belt that fits. Seems they don't have anything that goes around a toxic waist.Okay, Lynn, I'm gonna tell you the secret to cure depression. And there are no drugs, no alcohol and no one who looks like Brad Pitt involved in it. (Of course a couple of drinks with Brad and a few aspirins as a precaution against getting an inopportune time headache, would probably work, too. But not for me.)The way to prevent depression is humor. It's pretty tough to be depressed if you are laughing hysterically. (It's also pretty tough to keep a partner if you are laughing all the time, so you've got to be a little selective at when you laugh. also some men might not be too enamored with you depending on what you laugh at. So let's be careful in how we approach this.Laughter is known to cure depression. In the most famous medical case, a beautiful young virgin was in love with a handsome prince who didn't even know she was alive. Of course, there was no chance at all that he ever would. After all, who believes that someone named Charming who cared about women's shoes and wore tights was interested in girls at all? Fortunately laughter releases wonderful chemicals that fight and destroy depression. And so the story of Snow White and the Seven Endorfins has a happy ending. (And in case you were wondering, she avoided the Apple because it wasn't PC.)The first thing is to decide if you need or even need a partner to make you laugh. If you do, the obvious choice is to pick a clown. Clowns have a lot of advantages, but getting one is not as easy as it sounds. Most clowns are snapped up by unsuspecting brides who then are faced with a husband who is all slapstick comedy instead of serious breadwinning, housework or waiting outside dress shops. Worse yet, some new husbands are all slap and stick, but that is definitely for a different kind of ICD--Interesting Carnal Desires. Clowns have great advantages for women. they never ask you to iron their clothes, you don't have to cook for them, and all they really want you to do is keep their seltzer bottle filled. And the best part is those huge feet. You women know what they say about men with big feet, don't you? Of course, you have to be careful not to leave any cream pies around the house. And then there's make-up. You never know when your clown is going to use up all your make-up in one morning.So you need to find a good place to select your clown. Mc's is a good start, but they're all named , and you've got to be careful about what you say about his Big Mac. Washington D.C. is another good place to look. Lots of clowns there, but they tend to make you cry instead of laugh. Besides that, a lot of them are lawyers, and that makes getting rid of depression very difficult. And then there are the bars, especially the singles' bars, which got their name from the single digit IQ's that go there. You want a clown? Those places are full of Bozos.If you don't want a clown, and you don't need a partner, there are always books and movies. For those of you from California (where I now live), contact me off-forum, and I'll try to explain to you what a book is. There are a lot of books that will make you laugh. The telephone book will work. Lots of funny characters there, but the plot's not too interesting. Stay away from your checkbook, though. That'll probnably make you cry. As for movies, the best are those with Shatner, especially the Star Drek series. Don't bother with movies that star ie Shore, Rob Schneider or Al Gore.If none of these methods work for you. And if you really are truly depressed, there is one absolute way a woman can get rid of all her depression. Go shopping. Shopping won't make you laugh, but if you call your husband and tell him you're at 's, just the thought of what his facial expression is will make all your depression leave.Well there's the solution. Of course there are other things you can do. Buy your hubby a thong bikini and make him model it. Serve him haggis for his birthday. Play a Barry Manilow album while he's watching football on television. Those may sound like vicious thigs to do to one's spouse, but after all, isn't being vivious the real reason why people get married?From California where the best part about depression is that you don't have to smile at your boss, your in-laws or any of this drivel.Best.BillPS: find funny movies, comedy shows on TV, anything that makes you laugh. It really does release the endorfins that fight/destroy depression.

[Guest guest]

I want to thank everyone who responded, especially Bill who always

makes me laugh. I ended up in the ER yesterday and managed to keep

myself from freaking out too terribly badly. (Long story short,

everything's ok, my heart just decided to perform a drum solo.)

Lynn S.

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