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At 11:37 AM 2/8/2006, you wrote:

The ominous item below was

posted to a list that serves the community/neighborhood where I

live. Has the bird flu arrived ?????

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From: ChevyChaseCommunityListserv

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Date: 8 Feb 2006 14:56:44 -0000

ChevyChaseCommunityListserv

Subject: [ChevyChase] Digest Number 1913

I have six dead blue jays in my front yard-more each day. Appear to

have

died of illness since the bodies are not visibly damaged in any way.

Is

there someone in DC who cares about this and might want to check for

disease?

Tamiflu is still available through normal routes and through simple,

reimbursable, MD-writes-prescription routes.

An imperfect help, certainly, but likely a help nonetheless if trouble

should indeed descend upon us. Prudence would also dictate getting a

supply of surgical masks while they're still simply available. Current

stocks of Tamiful are good through 2009, which should see us through this

episode. Cheap partial insurance, getting both items, in my opinion.

Because Tamiful is almost completely excreted unchanged in the urine, a

quantum dose (two capsules of the ten " normally " prescribed for

antiflu purposes) is recyclable indefinitely should that become

necessary. Current data show that it should reduce the severity of

symptoms if taken promptly, and that reduction in severity might end up

making the life between surviving and not.

Maco

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At 11:37 AM 2/8/2006, you wrote:

The ominous item below was

posted to a list that serves the community/neighborhood where I

live. Has the bird flu arrived ?????

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From: ChevyChaseCommunityListserv

Reply-ChevyChaseCommunityListserv

Date: 8 Feb 2006 14:56:44 -0000

ChevyChaseCommunityListserv

Subject: [ChevyChase] Digest Number 1913

I have six dead blue jays in my front yard-more each day. Appear to

have

died of illness since the bodies are not visibly damaged in any way.

Is

there someone in DC who cares about this and might want to check for

disease?

Tamiflu is still available through normal routes and through simple,

reimbursable, MD-writes-prescription routes.

An imperfect help, certainly, but likely a help nonetheless if trouble

should indeed descend upon us. Prudence would also dictate getting a

supply of surgical masks while they're still simply available. Current

stocks of Tamiful are good through 2009, which should see us through this

episode. Cheap partial insurance, getting both items, in my opinion.

Because Tamiful is almost completely excreted unchanged in the urine, a

quantum dose (two capsules of the ten " normally " prescribed for

antiflu purposes) is recyclable indefinitely should that become

necessary. Current data show that it should reduce the severity of

symptoms if taken promptly, and that reduction in severity might end up

making the life between surviving and not.

Maco

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I received 2 e-mails off list that this is most likely West Nile Virus. Could be, but I don't know how anyone can be absolutely positive unless the birds are tested.

on 2/8/2006 1:37 PM, Francesca Skelton at fskelton@... wrote:

The ominous item below was posted to a list that serves the community/neighborhood where I live. Has the bird flu arrived ?????

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I received 2 e-mails off list that this is most likely West Nile Virus. Could be, but I don't know how anyone can be absolutely positive unless the birds are tested.

on 2/8/2006 1:37 PM, Francesca Skelton at fskelton@... wrote:

The ominous item below was posted to a list that serves the community/neighborhood where I live. Has the bird flu arrived ?????

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Oh oh.. the sky is falling. :-)

I follow things that may affect me and reports of " west nile " virus

which does kill birds has been up in my area. This doesn't exactly make

headline news these days despite ready vector to humans via mosquitos.

I don't know if West Nile is active in your area but IIRC it has

been active before to the North and South of you.

JR

Francesca Skelton wrote:

> The ominous item below was posted to a list that serves the

> community/neighborhood where I live. Has the bird flu arrived ?????

> ----------

> *From: *ChevyChaseCommunityListserv

> *Reply-*ChevyChaseCommunityListserv

> *Date: *8 Feb 2006 14:56:44 -0000

> **ChevyChaseCommunityListserv

> *Subject: *[ChevyChase] Digest Number 1913

>

> I have six dead blue jays in my front yard-more each day. Appear to have

> died of illness since the bodies are not visibly damaged in any way. Is

> there someone in DC who cares about this and might want to check for

> disease?

>

>

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Oh oh.. the sky is falling. :-)

I follow things that may affect me and reports of " west nile " virus

which does kill birds has been up in my area. This doesn't exactly make

headline news these days despite ready vector to humans via mosquitos.

I don't know if West Nile is active in your area but IIRC it has

been active before to the North and South of you.

JR

Francesca Skelton wrote:

> The ominous item below was posted to a list that serves the

> community/neighborhood where I live. Has the bird flu arrived ?????

> ----------

> *From: *ChevyChaseCommunityListserv

> *Reply-*ChevyChaseCommunityListserv

> *Date: *8 Feb 2006 14:56:44 -0000

> **ChevyChaseCommunityListserv

> *Subject: *[ChevyChase] Digest Number 1913

>

> I have six dead blue jays in my front yard-more each day. Appear to have

> died of illness since the bodies are not visibly damaged in any way. Is

> there someone in DC who cares about this and might want to check for

> disease?

>

>

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Question:

So there is bird flu (spread by handling birds),

Something called Asian flu not related to the "bird flu",

West Nile virus (spread by mosquitoes),

Also St. Louis encephalitis (spread by mosquitoes).

And the latest version of plain ole flu, right?

The tamiflu needs to be administered within 48 hrs.

Regards.

Re: [ ] dead birds

I received 2 e-mails off list that this is most likely West Nile Virus. Could be, but I don't know how anyone can be absolutely positive unless the birds are tested.on 2/8/2006 1:37 PM, Francesca Skelton at fskelton@... wrote:

The ominous item below was posted to a list that serves the community/neighborhood where I live. Has the bird flu arrived ?????

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Question:

So there is bird flu (spread by handling birds),

Something called Asian flu not related to the "bird flu",

West Nile virus (spread by mosquitoes),

Also St. Louis encephalitis (spread by mosquitoes).

And the latest version of plain ole flu, right?

The tamiflu needs to be administered within 48 hrs.

Regards.

Re: [ ] dead birds

I received 2 e-mails off list that this is most likely West Nile Virus. Could be, but I don't know how anyone can be absolutely positive unless the birds are tested.on 2/8/2006 1:37 PM, Francesca Skelton at fskelton@... wrote:

The ominous item below was posted to a list that serves the community/neighborhood where I live. Has the bird flu arrived ?????

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I know there are worries in the news about 'brown-tide' which is toxic to many creatures, It occurs randomly on the west coast. I think it has to do with a proliferation of a toxic algae.

Kay

[Flu] Dead birds

We live in Southern CA, on an island. Since Sat night, we have seen 2 dead birds, right outside our house. There was one, just laying on the sidewalk, that looked as if it had fallen out of the tree. The second is on the roof, right outside of our bedroom window. It looks as if it fell off of the ledge from the 3rd story. Neither of these birds appeared to have any type of trauma to them whatsoever.

This is not the first incident that I have seen a dead bird w/ no appearance of physical trauma laying dead, for no apparent reason.

We contacted local venues, and were told to just dispose of it (yeah, like I’m getting that close to it), they do not test birds anymore. Contact the health dept and the local CDC, neither want anything to do with it unless it appears to be a West Nile infection.

Is this something we should be concerned about? I believe the type of birds that these are, they are probably a local sparrow type bird. Not an egret or your “basic migratory bird”.

Again, is this something that should be alarming? Or am I just being overly paranoid?

TIA,

Doreen

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It is appalling that your local animal control people didn't come to collect these dead birds. I think you should go public about this in particular. An untrained person should never touch a dead animal. Period. At the same time, while we're concerned about the avian flu, it's still important to realize that birds die from all kinds of things - even "old age". Doreen <dmett@...> wrote: We live in Southern CA, on an island. Since Sat night, we have seen 2 dead birds, right outside our house. There was one, just laying on the sidewalk, that looked as if it had fallen out of the tree. The second is on the roof, right outside of our bedroom window. It looks as if it fell off of the ledge from the 3rd story. Neither of these birds appeared to have any type of trauma to them whatsoever. This is not the first incident that I have seen a dead bird w/ no appearance of physical trauma laying dead, for no apparent reason. We contacted local venues, and were told to just dispose of it (yeah, like I’m getting that close to it), they do not test birds anymore. Contact the health dept and the local CDC, neither want anything to do with it unless it appears to be a West Nile infection. Is this something we should be concerned about? I believe the type of birds that these are, they are probably a local sparrow type bird. Not an egret or your “basic migratory bird”. Again, is this something that should be alarming? Or am I just being overly paranoid? TIA, Doreen . Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. -Dr.Seuss . It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing. - Duke Ellington . Never place a period where God has placed a comma. - Gracie

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> Again, is this something that should be alarming? Or am I just being

overly

> paranoid?

>

In So Cal, this week, they probably died of heat. Don't worry about it.

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No, you are not at all paranoid!?. The town, state and fed officials will make you one!. It is certainly sad to hear that dead birds compliants were not taken seriously or not attended at all.Now, I doubt if this is America, in other parts of the world I can agree that they do not care if bird or other animal, if dead it will be left to putrify and go through the natural decay process, which is a horrible, horrible practice.If this is what is happening here in US and especially now, when we are talking about bird flu, is alarmingly a callous attitude of the health and environmental officials. Dead birds should be carefully removed by experts, tested and later incinerated. The records of testing must be maintained, especially if such cases are repeatedly reported or happened in a suspicious rate than usual. My advice to you is to keep pesturing the concerned, until you see that someone is taking appropriate steps to do something about

it.gluck,munirichardt2005 <richardt2005@...> wrote: > > Again, is this something that should be alarming? Or am I just being overly > paranoid? > In So Cal, this week, they probably died of heat. Don't worry about it.

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  • 4 years later...

For the sample test on the dead birds these are the results of the SCIO:

Excess management dysfunction, oxygen 51%, excess nervious energy, benzene solvents, affecting neurological and lymphatics, blood most stressed organ, LSD (from rye mold), chronic bronchitis from cold winds, impregnation of bad cell accumulation, heart muscle, the patient is poisoned, synthetic drugs (LSD), fear, virus, insecticides, allergy.

I don't know how much rye is grown in that area at that time of the year, but in Sweden I would say nil.

Interesting don't you think? Perhaps someone else would like to test in subspace and see if they come up with the same answers? Bye Sue

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