Re: Preventing Weight Gain...

[Guest guest]

JW makes some good points, although I'm not sure flesh is " required " . I have know 7th day adventists (vegetarians) who were obese. Too much pasta perhaps? And I can't see giving up fish, which seems to be a very important diet component

on 3/14/2006 3:07 PM, jwwright at jwwright@... wrote:

I see so many things wrong with this article, that I won't reiterate again. The bottom line is we CRers use the least calories, and for a given protein requirement, some flesh is required, perhaps fish is the best. Plant proteins are less bioavailable.

CR is not about losing weight so much as eating the least calories, AND getting all the things we need including those things we don't yet know about. Taurine,et al, may be very important at age when systems change, become less productive, perhaps fail. I won't risk my eyesight for a few pounds.

We can gain slowly, maintain, or lose weight as we choose. The diet construct matters not. I prefer a balance of protein sources just to be sure about the nutrition.

Regards.

[Guest guest]

JW makes some good points, although I'm not sure flesh is " required " . I have know 7th day adventists (vegetarians) who were obese. Too much pasta perhaps? And I can't see giving up fish, which seems to be a very important diet component

on 3/14/2006 3:07 PM, jwwright at jwwright@... wrote:

I see so many things wrong with this article, that I won't reiterate again. The bottom line is we CRers use the least calories, and for a given protein requirement, some flesh is required, perhaps fish is the best. Plant proteins are less bioavailable.

CR is not about losing weight so much as eating the least calories, AND getting all the things we need including those things we don't yet know about. Taurine,et al, may be very important at age when systems change, become less productive, perhaps fail. I won't risk my eyesight for a few pounds.

We can gain slowly, maintain, or lose weight as we choose. The diet construct matters not. I prefer a balance of protein sources just to be sure about the nutrition.

Regards.

[Guest guest]

I see so many things wrong with this article, that I won't reiterate again. The bottom line is we CRers use the least calories, and for a given protein requirement, some flesh is required, perhaps fish is the best. Plant proteins are less bioavailable.

CR is not about losing weight so much as eating the least calories, AND getting all the things we need including those things we don't yet know about. Taurine,et al, may be very important at age when systems change, become less productive, perhaps fail. I won't risk my eyesight for a few pounds.

We can gain slowly, maintain, or lose weight as we choose. The diet construct matters not. I prefer a balance of protein sources just to be sure about the nutrition.

Regards.

[ ] Preventing Weight Gain...

Those darn low fat high carb veggies do it again...Switching to vegetarian keeps weight down: study By Reaney1 hour, 51 minutes agoIf you want to keep the weight down, switch to a meat-free diet,scientists said on Tuesday.Researchers who studied the eating habits of 22,000 people over fiveyears, including meat eaters and vegetarians, found they all put on afew kilos but meat eaters who changed to a vegetarian or vegan dietgained the least."Contrary to current popular views that a diet low in carbohydrates andhigh in protein keeps weight down, we found that the lowest weight gaincame in people with high intake of carbohydrates and low intake ofprotein," said Professor Tim Key.The research compared weight gain among meat eaters, fish eaters,vegetarians and vegans -- who eat no animal products -- and is publishedin the International Journal of Obesity.It showed that on average people gained 2 kilos (4.4 lb) over fiveyears. None of the volunteers was overweight."The weight gain was less in the vegans than in the meat-eaters andsomewhere in between in the other groups," said Key, of Britain's CancerResearch UK charity and the University of Oxford, who conducted thestudy."The lowest weight gain was in people who changed their diet to eatfewer animal products," he told Reuters.Key and his colleagues said exercise was another important factor incontrolling weight."The data also showed that people who became more physically activeduring the five-year period gained less weight than people who did verylittle exercise," Key said.The findings are from the British arm of EPIC (European ProspectiveInvestigation into Cancer and Nutrition), which is comparing the dietsof 500,000 people in 10 countries to discover how diet is linked tocancer.The EPIC study has already revealed that diabetics have three times thenormal risk of developing colorectal cancer, which kills more than490,000 people worldwide each year.It also showed that diet is second only to tobacco, as a leading causeof cancer, and, along with alcohol, is responsible for nearly a third ofcancer cases in developed countries.

[Guest guest]

I see so many things wrong with this article, that I won't reiterate again. The bottom line is we CRers use the least calories, and for a given protein requirement, some flesh is required, perhaps fish is the best. Plant proteins are less bioavailable.

CR is not about losing weight so much as eating the least calories, AND getting all the things we need including those things we don't yet know about. Taurine,et al, may be very important at age when systems change, become less productive, perhaps fail. I won't risk my eyesight for a few pounds.

We can gain slowly, maintain, or lose weight as we choose. The diet construct matters not. I prefer a balance of protein sources just to be sure about the nutrition.

Regards.

[ ] Preventing Weight Gain...

Those darn low fat high carb veggies do it again...Switching to vegetarian keeps weight down: study By Reaney1 hour, 51 minutes agoIf you want to keep the weight down, switch to a meat-free diet,scientists said on Tuesday.Researchers who studied the eating habits of 22,000 people over fiveyears, including meat eaters and vegetarians, found they all put on afew kilos but meat eaters who changed to a vegetarian or vegan dietgained the least."Contrary to current popular views that a diet low in carbohydrates andhigh in protein keeps weight down, we found that the lowest weight gaincame in people with high intake of carbohydrates and low intake ofprotein," said Professor Tim Key.The research compared weight gain among meat eaters, fish eaters,vegetarians and vegans -- who eat no animal products -- and is publishedin the International Journal of Obesity.It showed that on average people gained 2 kilos (4.4 lb) over fiveyears. None of the volunteers was overweight."The weight gain was less in the vegans than in the meat-eaters andsomewhere in between in the other groups," said Key, of Britain's CancerResearch UK charity and the University of Oxford, who conducted thestudy."The lowest weight gain was in people who changed their diet to eatfewer animal products," he told Reuters.Key and his colleagues said exercise was another important factor incontrolling weight."The data also showed that people who became more physically activeduring the five-year period gained less weight than people who did verylittle exercise," Key said.The findings are from the British arm of EPIC (European ProspectiveInvestigation into Cancer and Nutrition), which is comparing the dietsof 500,000 people in 10 countries to discover how diet is linked tocancer.The EPIC study has already revealed that diabetics have three times thenormal risk of developing colorectal cancer, which kills more than490,000 people worldwide each year.It also showed that diet is second only to tobacco, as a leading causeof cancer, and, along with alcohol, is responsible for nearly a third ofcancer cases in developed countries.