Re: Re: Taking responsibility for weight

[Guest guest]

Thanks for that.

Anorexia is certainly something I want to avoid, and I think our moderate view promotes that.

The ref is perhaps a good psychological description of what drives people to anorexia, but how do we avoid anorexia? Is it the same as "wasting" in older folks? I don't want to do that either.

What is the first anorexic clue? BMI under 20, 19, 18? Bowel habits?

Is there a BMI like 22 we should stay above in case we catch a major disease?

Should we keep calories above a set point of 1200 kcals women, 1800 for men?

The only thing I can conclude is to head for a "nominal" weight very slowly - I've got 30 yrs to get to my 20 yo weight. Maybe we'll get some answers before then.

Regards.

[ ] Re: Taking responsibility for weight

Found the website to the NOVA program you mentioned (I'm guessing thisis the correct one) - "Dying to be Thin: >http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/thin/> > I recall watching a TV documentary (Nova?) many years ago about> > experiments designed to show whether or not some people genetically> > inherited a "higher metabolism" than others, so that they would burn> > more food and be thinner. The experimenters put people in airtight> > chambers and measured how much oxygen they consumed.> > > > The result was that there was no significant difference in > metabolism> > from one person to another. But it was pointed out that that> > differences in appetite did seem to be inherited. Apparently, each> > person has about the same food-burning engine but people have > inherited> > genetically a greater or lesser desire to eat.> > > > For me, this adds to the wisdom of the strategy of putting most of > your> > concentration on food choice with a secondary emphasis on food > amount. > > A person who has inherited a large appetite may always have a > terrible> > struggle with it but at least, once he or she has eliminated the > habits> > of bad food choices, the struggle with be over how many blueberries > or> > sweet potatoes to eat rather than Big Macs and french fries.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for that.

Anorexia is certainly something I want to avoid, and I think our moderate view promotes that.

The ref is perhaps a good psychological description of what drives people to anorexia, but how do we avoid anorexia? Is it the same as "wasting" in older folks? I don't want to do that either.

What is the first anorexic clue? BMI under 20, 19, 18? Bowel habits?

Is there a BMI like 22 we should stay above in case we catch a major disease?

Should we keep calories above a set point of 1200 kcals women, 1800 for men?

The only thing I can conclude is to head for a "nominal" weight very slowly - I've got 30 yrs to get to my 20 yo weight. Maybe we'll get some answers before then.

Regards.

[ ] Re: Taking responsibility for weight

Found the website to the NOVA program you mentioned (I'm guessing thisis the correct one) - "Dying to be Thin: >http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/thin/> > I recall watching a TV documentary (Nova?) many years ago about> > experiments designed to show whether or not some people genetically> > inherited a "higher metabolism" than others, so that they would burn> > more food and be thinner. The experimenters put people in airtight> > chambers and measured how much oxygen they consumed.> > > > The result was that there was no significant difference in > metabolism> > from one person to another. But it was pointed out that that> > differences in appetite did seem to be inherited. Apparently, each> > person has about the same food-burning engine but people have > inherited> > genetically a greater or lesser desire to eat.> > > > For me, this adds to the wisdom of the strategy of putting most of > your> > concentration on food choice with a secondary emphasis on food > amount. > > A person who has inherited a large appetite may always have a > terrible> > struggle with it but at least, once he or she has eliminated the > habits> > of bad food choices, the struggle with be over how many blueberries > or> > sweet potatoes to eat rather than Big Macs and french fries.

[Guest guest]

At 11:58 AM 3/6/2006, you wrote:

Thanks for that.

Anorexia is certainly something I want to avoid, and I think our

moderate view promotes that.

The ref is perhaps a good

psychological description of what drives people to anorexia, but how do

we avoid anorexia? Is it the same as " wasting " in older folks?

I don't want to do that either.

What is the first anorexic

clue? BMI under 20, 19, 18? Bowel habits?

Is there a BMI like 22 we should stay above in case we catch a major

disease?

Should we keep calories above a set point of 1200 kcals women, 1800 for

men?

The only thing I can conclude

is to head for a " nominal " weight very slowly - I've got 30 yrs

to get to my 20 yo weight. Maybe we'll get some answers before then.

Regards.

Anorexia

isn't a BMI or # of calories per day, it's a state of mind.

Take a look at

http://community.livejournal.com/proanorexia/

Those

folks have seriously distorted body images... Even though they are

remarkably thin by any standards, few of them post pictures of

themselves, because they hate their bodies... Instead they'll

have a picture of -Kate Olsen about to check into the clinic

for amphetamine abuse. Anorexia involves an intense feeling of

self-loathing, and I think really a desire for

self-destruction. See also body dismorphic disorder and self-harm

behaviors such as " cutting " .

[Guest guest]

At 11:58 AM 3/6/2006, you wrote:

Thanks for that.

Anorexia is certainly something I want to avoid, and I think our

moderate view promotes that.

The ref is perhaps a good

psychological description of what drives people to anorexia, but how do

we avoid anorexia? Is it the same as " wasting " in older folks?

I don't want to do that either.

What is the first anorexic

clue? BMI under 20, 19, 18? Bowel habits?

Is there a BMI like 22 we should stay above in case we catch a major

disease?

Should we keep calories above a set point of 1200 kcals women, 1800 for

men?

The only thing I can conclude

is to head for a " nominal " weight very slowly - I've got 30 yrs

to get to my 20 yo weight. Maybe we'll get some answers before then.

Regards.

Anorexia

isn't a BMI or # of calories per day, it's a state of mind.

Take a look at

http://community.livejournal.com/proanorexia/

Those

folks have seriously distorted body images... Even though they are

remarkably thin by any standards, few of them post pictures of

themselves, because they hate their bodies... Instead they'll

have a picture of -Kate Olsen about to check into the clinic

for amphetamine abuse. Anorexia involves an intense feeling of

self-loathing, and I think really a desire for

self-destruction. See also body dismorphic disorder and self-harm

behaviors such as " cutting " .