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[Guest guest]

Lea Ann,

That's great! That is the price I was looking for with a refurbished. I will let you know when my birthday gets here. Thanks.

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The red machines are sold in brown boxes - did you order red? If it was black or white I have no idea why it came in that box.

I also have no idea why the red machines are sold in that ugly box.

Blessings,

Lea Ann Savage

Satellite Beach, FL

(321) 773-7088 (home)

(321-961-9219 (cell)

www.VitamixLady.com

www..com

<))><

On Jan 7, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Meena Ali wrote:

VM company is a good company as it stands by its word.

Quote, "I received it in a brand new box". My question: what is the difference in appearance of a brand new VM box as opposed to the appearance of the box which has a refurbished VM?

When I received my VM "it came in a brand new (colourful) box" which had a white background with bells and whistles on it eg. picture of VM with additional info. etc. I had to return it as it was the wrong colour. VM with the colour of my choice came in a brown, heavy cardboard box with no bells and whistles on it except big bold VM stamped on it. Definatley did not look like it the original box...any relections?

Hi there, I'm someone that bought a refurbished machine about one year ago - and I tell everyone that I know that is concerned about the price of a VitaMix to get a refurbished machine. You absolutely cannot tell any difference between a refurb and a non-refurb machine. Mine came in a brand new box, and everything was shiny and new. When I really started thinking about it, I actually came to believe that a refurb is BETTER - because this machine has been tested at least twice over to absolutely ensure VitaMix doesn't see it again!!!! Hope this helps, Bobbie

>

> Hello Neva,

>

> I am a big fan of the refurbished machines. My first Vitamix was a refurbished machine (and I only have a new one because I won it at a sales meeting). I bought my mom a refurb, and the lady across the street who had cancer a refurb. I have sold many refurbished machines in between shows, have never heard a complaint and have only heard good things about them. They are inspected at the factory and re-packaged just like new.

>

>

> I know there are lots of people on this list who have purchased refurbished machines from me and they might chime in and let you know what they think of them!

>

[Guest guest]

Interesting, because my red machine came in an ugly box too, and mine wasn't a refurb (I would totally have bought a refurb, but I wanted all the extra containers and it HAD to be red, and none were available, lol) I think we should start a revolt! We want PRETTY boxes to tear up to add to the landfill!

Hi there, I'm someone that bought a refurbished machine about one year ago - and I tell everyone that I know that is concerned about the price of a VitaMix to get a refurbished machine. You absolutely cannot tell any difference between a refurb and a non-refurb machine. Mine came in a brand new box, and everything was shiny and new. When I really started thinking about it, I actually came to believe that a refurb is BETTER - because this machine has been tested at least twice over to absolutely ensure VitaMix doesn't see it again!!!! Hope this helps, Bobbie

>

> Hello Neva,

>

> I am a big fan of the refurbished machines. My first Vitamix was a refurbished machine (and I only have a new one because I won it at a sales meeting). I bought my mom a refurb, and the lady across the street who had cancer a refurb. I have sold many refurbished machines in between shows, have never heard a complaint and have only heard good things about them. They are inspected at the factory and re-packaged just like new.

>

>

> I know there are lots of people on this list who have purchased refurbished machines from me and they might chime in and let you know what they think of them!

>

[Guest guest]

I think refurbs only come in black or white, don't they?

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Interesting, because my red machine came in an ugly box too, and mine wasn't a refurb (I would totally have bought a refurb, but I wanted all the extra containers and it HAD to be red, and none were available, lol) I think we should start a revolt! We want PRETTY boxes to tear up to add to the landfill!

Hi there, I'm someone that bought a refurbished machine about one year ago - and I tell everyone that I know that is concerned about the price of a VitaMix to get a refurbished machine. You absolutely cannot tell any difference between a refurb and a non-refurb machine. Mine came in a brand new box, and everything was shiny and new. When I really started thinking about it, I actually came to believe that a refurb is BETTER - because this machine has been tested at least twice over to absolutely ensure VitaMix doesn't see it again!!!! Hope this helps, Bobbie

>

> Hello Neva,

>

> I am a big fan of the refurbished machines. My first Vitamix was a refurbished machine (and I only have a new one because I won it at a sales meeting). I bought my mom a refurb, and the lady across the street who had cancer a refurb. I have sold many refurbished machines in between shows, have never heard a complaint and have only heard good things about them. They are inspected at the factory and re-packaged just like new.

>

>

> I know there are lots of people on this list who have purchased refurbished machines from me and they might chime in and let you know what they think of them!

>

[Guest guest]

I am a very happy owner of TWO refurbished VM's purchased through Lea Ann...and

I've a friend who bought a refurb for her daughter for Christmas (also through

Lea Ann)... $379 + tax... And here's a little tale of my FIRST VM purchased in

August 1997 at Air Force Base exchange for $379 which was NOT a refurb

but served my husband and I well until about a year ago when it started making a

shrill noise while on high. My husband thought it sounded like the " bearings "

were gone (whatever those are) and luckily my daughter lives 15 minutes from the

VM company...we we brought out machine to the company to be checked out..there

were two options since it was out of warranty..we chose the complete overhaul

option for $149...everything new including a new container new motor and a whole

host of new stuff...all done in 1/2 hour. That machine stayed at my daughter's

home and I'm happy to say it is getting a nice workout for our grandkids. We are

definitely a VM family and wouldn't even consider being without our machine...

Connie

[Guest guest]

Gee, considering they even threw in the container, that's a good deal. How long is the overhaul warranty?

Re: Re: Refurbs vs. QVC model

I am a very happy owner of TWO refurbished VM's purchased through Lea Ann...and I've a friend who bought a refurb for her daughter for Christmas (also through Lea Ann)... $379 + tax... And here's a little tale of my FIRST VM purchased in August 1997 at Air Force Base exchange for $379 which was NOT a refurb but served my husband and I well until about a year ago when it started making a shrill noise while on high. My husband thought it sounded like the "bearings" were gone (whatever those are) and luckily my daughter lives 15 minutes from the VM company...we we brought out machine to the company to be checked out..there were two options since it was out of warranty..we chose the complete overhaul option for $149...everything new including a new container new motor and a whole host of new stuff...all done in 1/2 hour. That machine stayed at my daughter's home and I'm happy to say it is getting a nice workout for our grandkids. We are definitely a VM family and wouldn't even consider being without our machine...

[Guest guest]

Yes. I ordered a red one!

Hi there, I'm someone that bought a refurbished machine about one year ago - and I tell everyone that I know that is concerned about the price of a VitaMix to get a refurbished machine. You absolutely cannot tell any difference between a refurb and a non-refurb machine. Mine came in a brand new box, and everything was shiny and new. When I really started thinking about it, I actually came to believe that a refurb is BETTER - because this machine has been tested at least twice over to absolutely ensure VitaMix doesn't see it again!!!! Hope this helps, Bobbie>> Hello Neva,> > I am a big fan

of the refurbished machines. My first Vitamix was a refurbished machine (and I only have a new one because I won it at a sales meeting). I bought my mom a refurb, and the lady across the street who had cancer a refurb. I have sold many refurbished machines in between shows, have never heard a complaint and have only heard good things about them. They are inspected at the factory and re-packaged just like new.> > > I know there are lots of people on this list who have purchased refurbished machines from me and they might chime in and let you know what they think of them!>

[Guest guest]

Well, I'll know if I ever get a red one which I would like.lol I purchased one from another web site and didn't know it was an older one, got a 4500, it's ok, waiting for the day I can get a newer one.lol

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Yes. I ordered a red one!

Hi there, I'm someone that bought a refurbished machine about one year ago - and I tell everyone that I know that is concerned about the price of a VitaMix to get a refurbished machine. You absolutely cannot tell any difference between a refurb and a non-refurb machine. Mine came in a brand new box, and everything was shiny and new. When I really started thinking about it, I actually came to believe that a refurb is BETTER - because this machine has been tested at least twice over to absolutely ensure VitaMix doesn't see it again!!!! Hope this helps, Bobbie>> Hello Neva,> > I am a big fan of the refurbished machines. My first Vitamix was a refurbished machine (and I only have a new one because I won it at a sales meeting). I bought my mom a refurb, and the lady across the street who had cancer a refurb. I have sold many refurbished machines in between shows, have never heard a complaint and have only heard good things about them. They are inspected at the factory and re-packaged just like new.> > > I know there are lots of people on this list who have purchased refurbished machines from me and they might chime in and let you know what they think of them!>

[Guest guest]

And Stainless for $449 (instead of the regular $499)I'll call Vitamix on Monday to see if I can get Red as a refurb - they've never sold red online as a refurb, but I can often get refurbs when they are not available on the Vitamix website, so we'll see...

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On Jan 7, 2011, at 8:47 PM, wrote:

I think refurbs only come in black or white, don't they?

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Interesting, because my red machine came in an ugly box too, and mine wasn't a refurb (I would totally have bought a refurb, but I wanted all the extra containers and it HAD to be red, and none were available, lol) I think we should start a revolt! We want PRETTY boxes to tear up to add to the landfill!

Hi there, I'm someone that bought a refurbished machine about one year ago - and I tell everyone that I know that is concerned about the price of a VitaMix to get a refurbished machine. You absolutely cannot tell any difference between a refurb and a non-refurb machine. Mine came in a brand new box, and everything was shiny and new. When I really started thinking about it, I actually came to believe that a refurb is BETTER - because this machine has been tested at least twice over to absolutely ensure VitaMix doesn't see it again!!!! Hope this helps, Bobbie

>

> Hello Neva,

>

> I am a big fan of the refurbished machines. My first Vitamix was a refurbished machine (and I only have a new one because I won it at a sales meeting). I bought my mom a refurb, and the lady across the street who had cancer a refurb. I have sold many refurbished machines in between shows, have never heard a complaint and have only heard good things about them. They are inspected at the factory and re-packaged just like new.

>

>

> I know there are lots of people on this list who have purchased refurbished machines from me and they might chime in and let you know what they think of them!

>

[Guest guest]

Ahhhh then that is why - they always come in those ugly boxes for reasons I can't fathom.

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On Jan 8, 2011, at 5:29 AM, Meena Ali wrote:

Yes. I ordered a red one!

Hi there, I'm someone that bought a refurbished machine about one year ago - and I tell everyone that I know that is concerned about the price of a VitaMix to get a refurbished machine. You absolutely cannot tell any difference between a refurb and a non-refurb machine. Mine came in a brand new box, and everything was shiny and new. When I really started thinking about it, I actually came to believe that a refurb is BETTER - because this machine has been tested at least twice over to absolutely ensure VitaMix doesn't see it again!!!! Hope this helps, Bobbie>> Hello Neva,> > I am a big fan

of the refurbished machines. My first Vitamix was a refurbished machine (and I only have a new one because I won it at a sales meeting). I bought my mom a refurb, and the lady across the street who had cancer a refurb. I have sold many refurbished machines in between shows, have never heard a complaint and have only heard good things about them. They are inspected at the factory and re-packaged just like new.> > > I know there are lots of people on this list who have purchased refurbished machines from me and they might chime in and let you know what they think of them!>

[Guest guest]

I hope you get one, too--I think you'll be astonished at how much different the 5000 series is.

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Yes. I ordered a red one!

Hi there, I'm someone that bought a refurbished machine about one year ago - and I tell everyone that I know that is concerned about the price of a VitaMix to get a refurbished machine. You absolutely cannot tell any difference between a refurb and a non-refurb machine. Mine came in a brand new box, and everything was shiny and new. When I really started thinking about it, I actually came to believe that a refurb is BETTER - because this machine has been tested at least twice over to absolutely ensure VitaMix doesn't see it again!!!! Hope this helps, Bobbie

>

> Hello Neva,

>

> I am a big fan of the refurbis hed machines. My first Vitamix was a refurbished machine (and I only have a new one because I won it at a sales meeting). I bought my mom a refurb, and the lady across the street who had cancer a refurb. I have sold many refurbished machines in between shows, have never heard a complaint and have only heard good things about them. They are inspected at the factory and re-packaged just like new.

>

>

> I know there are lots of people on this list who have purchased refurbished machines from me and they might chime in and let you know what they think of them!

>

[Guest guest]

Hey, what do you think of the platinum color?

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Interesting, because my red machine came in an ugly box too, and mine wasn't a refurb (I would totally have bought a refurb, but I wanted all the extra containers and it HAD to be red, and none were available, lol) I think we should start a revolt! We want PRETTY boxes to tear up to add to the landfill!

Hi there, I'm someone that bought a refurbished machine about one year ago - and I tell everyone that I know that is concerned about the price of a VitaMix to get a refurbished machine. You absolutely cannot tell any difference between a refurb and a non-refurb machine. Mine came in a brand new box, and everything was shiny and new. When I really started thinking about it, I actually came to believe that a refurb is BETTER - because this machine has been tested at least twice over to absolutely ensure VitaMix doesn't see it again!!!! Hope this helps, Bobbie

>

> Hello Neva,

>

> I am a big fan of the refurbished machines. My first Vitamix was a refurbished machine (and I only have a new one because I won it at a sales meeting). I bought my mom a refurb, and the lady across the street who had cancer a refurb. I have sold many refurbished machines in between shows, have never heard a complaint and have only heard good things about them. They are inspected at the factory and re-packaged just like new.

>

>

> I know there are lots of people on this list who have purchased refurbished machines from me and they might chime in and let you know what they think of them!

>

[Guest guest]

Y'know, I don't recall that my red 5000 came in a nice box--I'm pretty sure I'd remember if it had. I guess it has been Vita-policy since red was offered.

Lea Ann, if you haven't already received it, look for a large envelope in today's mail.

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Ahhhh then that is why - they always come in those ugly boxes for reasons I can't fathom.

Blessings,

Lea Ann Savage

Satellite Beach, FL

(321) 773-7088 (home)

(321-961-9219 (cell)

www.VitamixLady.com

www..com

<))><

On Jan 8, 2011, at 5:29 AM, Meena Ali wrote:

Yes. I ordered a red one!

Hi there, I'm someone that bought a refurbished machine about one year ago - and I tell everyone that I know that is concerned about the price of a VitaMix to get a refurbished machine. You absolutely cannot tell any difference between a refurb and a non-refurb machine. Mine came in a brand new box, and everything was shiny and new. When I really started thinking about it, I actually came to believe that a refurb is BETTER - because this machine has been tested at least twice over to absolutely ensure VitaMix doesn't see it again!!!! Hope this helps, Bobbie

>

> Hello Neva,

>

> I am a big fan of the refurbished machines. My first Vitamix was a refurbished machine (and I only have a new one because I won it at a sales meeting). I bought my mom a refurb, and the lady across the street who had cancer a refurb. I have sold many refurbished machines in between shows, have never heard a complaint and have only heard good things about them. They are inspected at the factory and re-packaged just like new.

>

>

> I know there are lots of people on this list who have purchased refurbished machines from me and they might chime in and let you know what they think of them!

>

[Guest guest]

If you're asking me - I don't like it. It looks like silver plastic.

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On Jan 8, 2011, at 9:06 AM, wrote:

Hey, what do you think of the platinum color?

Re: Re: Refurbs vs. QVC model

Interesting, because my red machine came in an ugly box too, and mine wasn't a refurb (I would totally have bought a refurb, but I wanted all the extra containers and it HAD to be red, and none were available, lol) I think we should start a revolt! We want PRETTY boxes to tear up to add to the landfill!

Hi there, I'm someone that bought a refurbished machine about one year ago - and I tell everyone that I know that is concerned about the price of a VitaMix to get a refurbished machine. You absolutely cannot tell any difference between a refurb and a non-refurb machine. Mine came in a brand new box, and everything was shiny and new. When I really started thinking about it, I actually came to believe that a refurb is BETTER - because this machine has been tested at least twice over to absolutely ensure VitaMix doesn't see it again!!!! Hope this helps, Bobbie

>

> Hello Neva,

>

> I am a big fan of the refurbished machines. My first Vitamix was a refurbished machine (and I only have a new one because I won it at a sales meeting). I bought my mom a refurb, and the lady across the street who had cancer a refurb. I have sold many refurbished machines in between shows, have never heard a complaint and have only heard good things about them. They are inspected at the factory and re-packaged just like new.

>

>

> I know there are lots of people on this list who have purchased refurbished machines from me and they might chime in and let you know what they think of them!

>

[Guest guest]

Saw a demonstration on the web site where I just ordered the Delicious book,

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Yes. I ordered a red one!

Hi there, I'm someone that bought a refurbished machine about one year ago - and I tell everyone that I know that is concerned about the price of a VitaMix to get a refurbished machine. You absolutely cannot tell any difference between a refurb and a non-refurb machine. Mine came in a brand new box, and everything was shiny and new. When I really started thinking about it, I actually came to believe that a refurb is BETTER - because this machine has been tested at least twice over to absolutely ensure VitaMix doesn't see it again!!!! Hope this helps, Bobbie>> Hello Neva,> > I am a big fan of the refurbis hed machines. My first Vitamix was a refurbished machine (and I only have a new one because I won it at a sales meeting). I bought my mom a refurb, and the lady across the street who had cancer a refurb. I have sold many refurbished machines in between shows, have never heard a complaint and have only heard good things about them. They are inspected at the factory and re-packaged just like new.> > > I know there are lots of people on this list who have purchased refurbished machines from me and they might chime in and let you know what they think of them!>

[Guest guest]

Lori Ann what rice cooker do you have?  I am on the hunt for a quality product that turns rice out like I find in Asian restaurants.  Just starting my search.   Figured I would pick your brain.  Thanks Pam

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Lori Ann <dimplesnwinks@...> wrote:

 

Red is the color that I have.  I started switching to red.  I have a red rice cooker and red food processor.  Now, I have a red Vitamix. 

 Lorihttp://lifeontheveganedge.blogspot.com/

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Sent: Sat, January 8, 2011 5:16:11 PMSubject: Re: Re: Refurbs vs. QVC model

 

Well, I'll know if I ever get a red one which I would like.lol  I purchased one from another web site and didn't know it was an older one, got a 4500, it's ok, waiting for the day I can get a newer one.lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

If you have a double boiler, if you can find an Ohsawa pot to fit it, your rice will come out like that in (east) Asian restaurants, or at least brown rice will. I've never used it for white rice but I'm sure it would work.

Also, the rice--white and brown--served in Chinese and Japanese restaurants is usually short-grain, which cooks up a LOT different than long grain. Thai restaurants tend to use jasmine rice.

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Well, I'll know if I ever get a red one which I would like.lol I purchased one from another web site and didn't know it was an older one, got a 4500, it's ok, waiting for the day I can get a newer one.lol

[Guest guest]

thanks karen will give that some thought! am googling ohsawa pot next!pamOn Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 10:08 AM, <kareningotham@...> wrote:

 

If you have a double boiler, if you can find an Ohsawa pot to fit it, your rice will come out like that in (east) Asian restaurants, or at least brown rice will. I've never used it for white rice but I'm sure it would work.

Also, the rice--white and brown--served in Chinese and Japanese restaurants is usually short-grain, which cooks up a LOT different than long grain. Thai restaurants tend to use jasmine rice.

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Well, I'll know if I ever get a red one which I would like.lol  I purchased one from another web site and didn't know it was an older one, got a 4500, it's ok, waiting for the day I can get a newer one.lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

karen you know what i found info on using it with a pressure cooker.  i have a stove top pressure cooker...i wonder how that works?  have you ever tried that ?  pamOn Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 10:37 AM, ~~ <ahcor4@...> wrote:

thanks karen will give that some thought! am googling ohsawa pot next!pamOn Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 10:08 AM, <kareningotham@...> wrote:

 

If you have a double boiler, if you can find an Ohsawa pot to fit it, your rice will come out like that in (east) Asian restaurants, or at least brown rice will. I've never used it for white rice but I'm sure it would work.

Also, the rice--white and brown--served in Chinese and Japanese restaurants is usually short-grain, which cooks up a LOT different than long grain. Thai restaurants tend to use jasmine rice.

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Well, I'll know if I ever get a red one which I would like.lol  I purchased one from another web site and didn't know it was an older one, got a 4500, it's ok, waiting for the day I can get a newer one.lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I've had mine since 1988 and the newer ones are a lot nicer. No need to buy another electrical appliance and cooking time is reduced if you soak overnight. Just keep an eye on your cooker until it comes up to pressure, then turn it down to maintain it and set your timer. At most it's 50 minutes, reduced to 30 with presoaking. I wouldn't mind a rice cooker but that's just because I'm a gadget junkie--this works just fine and you can also make layered hot pot dishes with grains and pulses. No need to worry about your pressure cooker's release valve getting clogged, either, because the steam is only water.

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Well, I'll know if I ever get a red one which I would like.lol I purchased one from another web site and didn't know it was an older one, got a 4500, it's ok, waiting for the day I can get a newer one.lol

[Guest guest]

Nope, I just use the Ohsawa cooking pot. A lot easier to clean than my hulk of a pressure cooker and no fear of clogging the valve. VERY easy. But give regular pressure cooking of your rice a try.

I have a very cute rice steamer that I found on eBay that was a promotion from the Comet Rice company and it works great. However, it's aluminum and it's just about as easy to use my pressure cooker combo. It's adorable, though!

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[Guest guest]

Sorry that I didn't answer you sooner...you asked a very good question...and STUPIDLY I didn't ask when they did the refurb of my unit... I also want to tell you what I did with my refurb unit we use when we are up in OH...and which I think is about 1 1/2 years old...I cleaned it out and apparently didn't tighten the blade unit tight enough and when i made a smoothie it leaked all over the place and <gulp> also into the motor section of the unit. I didn't know it at first after I cleaned up the whole machine, but when i went to make a smoothie later the machine started up and then quit...died...didn't work at all. Fortunately we were up in OH so we brought the machine (still under warranty) to the company. I was up front with what i had done and fully expected to pay for a rehab. They fixed me up with a new motor and sent me on my way in 20 minutes...no charge. I can't say enough good things about customer service! I also know how lucky we are that my daughter and family live 5 minutes away from VM company. I intend to stop by in the spring and pick up some of those wonderful skinny spatulas.connie in FLOn Jan 7, 2011, at 10:11 PM, wrote:

Gee, considering they even threw in the container, that's a good deal. How long is the overhaul warranty?

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I am a very happy owner of TWO refurbished VM's purchased through Lea Ann...and I've a friend who bought a refurb for her daughter for Christmas (also through Lea Ann)... $379 + tax... And here's a little tale of my FIRST VM purchased in August 1997 at Air Force Base exchange for $379 which was NOT a refurb but served my husband and I well until about a year ago when it started making a shrill noise while on high. My husband thought it sounded like the "bearings" were gone (whatever those are) and luckily my daughter lives 15 minutes from the VM company...we we brought out machine to the company to be checked out..there were two options since it was out of warranty..we chose the complete overhaul option for $149...everything new including a new container new motor and a whole host of new stuff...all done in 1/2 hour. That machine stayed at my daughter's home and I'm happy to say it is getting a nice workout for our grandkids. We are definitely a VM family and wouldn't even consider being without our machine...

[Guest guest]

Not stupid, just asked by someone who has been there (although not with Vitamix). And I'm sure if you call them, they'll tell you.

Vitamix is the poster child for fabulous customer service. And BTW, another nice company to deal with is Plastaket, the company that manufactures Champion juicers. Theirs is an excellent product (10-year warranty) and they care very much about keeping their customers happy. I always recommend that those new to juicing who are sure they'll stick with it buy a Champion. Mine is still running and it's almost 23 years old.

Re: Re: Refurbs vs. QVC model

I am a very happy owner of TWO refurbished VM's purchased through Lea Ann...and I've a friend who bought a refurb for her daughter for Christmas (also through Lea Ann)... $379 + tax... And here's a little tale of my FIRST VM purchased in August 1997 at Air Force Base exchange for $379 which was NOT a refurb but served my husband and I well until about a year ago when it started making a shrill noise while on high. My husband thought it sounded like the "bearings" were gone (whatever those are) and luckily my daughter lives 15 minutes from the VM company...we we brought out machine to the company to be checked out..there were two options since it was out of warranty..we chose the complete overhaul option for $149...everything new including a new container new motor and a whole host of new stuff...all done in 1/2 hour. That machine stayed at my daughter's home and I'm happy to say it is getting a nice workout for our grandkids. We are definitely a VM family and wouldn't even consider being without our machine...