Guest guest Posted November 11, 1999 Report Share Posted November 11, 1999 According to this, virtually everything we eat from plant sources would be toxic. All corn,soybeans, wheat, rye, all common grains that are stored and subject to mold spores. Also, all animals who eat these plants would be toxic as well. Therefored, everthing as we know it has these toxins in it. Why aren't we all dead yet? I realize this reality, but nothing has changed for 5000 years. People have always consumed small amounts of this--but our immune systems were able to handle it, which will bring me back to my point, if your immune system functions normally--which most don't now, your body knows how to get rid of what it doesn't need. Ambrotose is PROVEN to be the most powerful antioxidant, an immune system modulator available. It lets your body decide what it can use and what to throw away. >From: " Luiz Moreira " <gingerjoe@...> >Reply-candidiasisonelist ><candidiasisonelist> >Subject: Aflatoxin >Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 00:11:41 -0200 > >As requested by some list members please find below some references on >Aflatoxin : >http://www.inform.umd.edu/EdRes/Topic/AgrEnv/ndd/safefood/AFLATOXIN_IN_FIELD >_CROPS_PART_4_OF_5.html > >http://www.neogen.com/npc.htm > >http://goin.missouri.org/~dairyldy/afla.htm > >http://tirgan.com/hepatoma.htm > >http://agnews.tamu.edu/stories/PATH/aflares.htm > >I could add another dozen of sites but I think it is unnecessary as my >point >was made clear. > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >_ > >Subscription URL: /subscribe.cgi/candidiasis > > >Send blank message to this e-mail address if you want to: > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE !!!!!!!!! : > > candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist > >To change status from normal to digest: > candidiasis-digestonelist > >To change status from digest to normal: > candidiasis-normalonelist > >To subscribe: > candidiasis-subscribeonelist > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 No wonder the inclusion of supplemental clay in a dog's diet comes so highly recommended by certain alternative animal health sites. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=1\ 0630600 & dopt=Abstract Not bad for humans too it seems. > > Hi folks. > > We have talked about aflatoxin here before. A good thing to avoid. > Here is a US example of it. Fortunately not among humans. > > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,180270,00.html > > Rodney. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 No wonder the inclusion of supplemental clay in a dog's diet comes so highly recommended by certain alternative animal health sites. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=1\ 0630600 & dopt=Abstract Not bad for humans too it seems. > > Hi folks. > > We have talked about aflatoxin here before. A good thing to avoid. > Here is a US example of it. Fortunately not among humans. > > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,180270,00.html > > Rodney. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 I looked around the site and couldn't find out who these authors are. I note no credentials (Phd? MD?) after their names. But if what they say is true Rod, you have a lot more than peanuts to worry about; in fact peanuts aren't even mentioned in the pararaph below (although peanut meal is mentioned elsewhere in the article): Food products contaminated with aflatoxins include cereal (maize, sorghum, pearl millet, rice, wheat), oilseeds (groundnut, soybean, sunflower, cotton), spices (chillies, black pepper, coriander, turmeric, zinger), tree nuts (almonds, pistachio, walnuts, coconut) and milk. Personally I refuse to worry about it with such a wide range of foods implicated. You can drive yourself nuts (pardon the bad pun), and mental health is important too. I'm a big peanut butter fan (the unadultered " nothing added " kind, not the salted, sugared kind). on 3/15/2006 7:06 PM, Rodney at perspect1111@... wrote: Probably more than you wanted to know about aflatoxin: http://www.aflatoxin.info/aflatoxin.asp Rodney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 I looked around the site and couldn't find out who these authors are. I note no credentials (Phd? MD?) after their names. But if what they say is true Rod, you have a lot more than peanuts to worry about; in fact peanuts aren't even mentioned in the pararaph below (although peanut meal is mentioned elsewhere in the article): Food products contaminated with aflatoxins include cereal (maize, sorghum, pearl millet, rice, wheat), oilseeds (groundnut, soybean, sunflower, cotton), spices (chillies, black pepper, coriander, turmeric, zinger), tree nuts (almonds, pistachio, walnuts, coconut) and milk. Personally I refuse to worry about it with such a wide range of foods implicated. You can drive yourself nuts (pardon the bad pun), and mental health is important too. I'm a big peanut butter fan (the unadultered " nothing added " kind, not the salted, sugared kind). on 3/15/2006 7:06 PM, Rodney at perspect1111@... wrote: Probably more than you wanted to know about aflatoxin: http://www.aflatoxin.info/aflatoxin.asp Rodney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Hi Francesca: This is from the home page of the site: " Dr. Farid Waliyar Global Theme Biotechnology Principal Scientist (Pathology) International Crops Research Institute for the Semi-Arid Tropics (ICRISAT) Fax +91 40 23241239 Telephone +91 40 23296161 (Ext 2696) Comments/Suggestions welcome to: Dr Farid Waliyar " I guess my message is that if yer happen to notice mold when you are sprouting any of these seeds, it might be a good idea to take notice. But I do not know what qualifications " Dr. Walijar " has. Rodney. > > Probably more than you wanted to know about aflatoxin: > > http://www.aflatoxin.info/aflatoxin.asp > > Rodney. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Hi Francesca: This is from the home page of the site: " Dr. Farid Waliyar Global Theme Biotechnology Principal Scientist (Pathology) International Crops Research Institute for the Semi-Arid Tropics (ICRISAT) Fax +91 40 23241239 Telephone +91 40 23296161 (Ext 2696) Comments/Suggestions welcome to: Dr Farid Waliyar " I guess my message is that if yer happen to notice mold when you are sprouting any of these seeds, it might be a good idea to take notice. But I do not know what qualifications " Dr. Walijar " has. Rodney. > > Probably more than you wanted to know about aflatoxin: > > http://www.aflatoxin.info/aflatoxin.asp > > Rodney. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Hi All, Groundnuts are peanuts. Rodney's original URL site did not even mention liver cancer. I liked better: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aflatoxin -- Al Pater, PhD; email: old542000@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Hi All, Groundnuts are peanuts. Rodney's original URL site did not even mention liver cancer. I liked better: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aflatoxin -- Al Pater, PhD; email: old542000@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Does anyone know if studies have been done showing either organic or sprayed crops to fare better with regard to aflatoxins? Thanks, - > > Probably more than you wanted to know about aflatoxin: > > http://www.aflatoxin.info/aflatoxin.asp > > Rodney. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Does anyone know if studies have been done showing either organic or sprayed crops to fare better with regard to aflatoxins? Thanks, - > > Probably more than you wanted to know about aflatoxin: > > http://www.aflatoxin.info/aflatoxin.asp > > Rodney. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 You can search the web for aflatoxin and government. What I'm sure now is that the animal corn here is labelled "for human consumption" and specifies the aflatoxin content. That means to me it was tested and cleaned. The idea of using "organic" corn or peanuts is beyond my comprehension. The government supposedly keeps a tight rein on peanut crops, and previous req'ts of <10 for humans, and <400 for animal feed is not followed now. Rather 20 ppb for milk cows,eg, because it can get into milk. I called Planters and they assured me the peanuts they buy are free of aflatoxin and they clean them in their processing as well. But the problem with peanut sprouting as I see it, is where to buy certified seed for sprouting. I won't touch that for anyone's reason. It's too easy for that stuff to start growing after they're tested. I haven't seen fresh peanuts anywhere and I'm sure I couldn't tell aflatoxin mold from the mold that appears on oranges or any other produce. http://www.aflatoxin.info/food_safety.asp In 1997, the European Commission proposed maximum limits for aflatoxins in certain foodstuffs. The standard ranged from 4 ppb in cereals, edible nuts, and dried fruit, to 10 ppb for nuts that are subject to further processing. http://www.vicam.com/press_releases/pr_2003_08_26.html About Aflatoxin Aflatoxin, a toxin from a naturally occurring mold, is a Group 1 carcinogen proven to cause cancer in humans. Throughout the world, there are significant regulations on the presence of aflatoxins in food and feed. The US federal government action level for aflatoxin in food for human consumption or in dairy cow feed is 20 ppb. The European Commission has action levels for aflatoxin in cereals intended for direct human consumption or for ingredients in foodstuffs. These action levels are 4ppb total aflatoxin and 2 ppb for aflatoxin B1. Additionally, EU member states have established their own maximum levels for aflatoxins in food and feedstuffs which are not included in the EC regulations. http://plantpathology.tamu.edu/aflatoxin/text/regulatory-t.htm regulations Notice the allowance of "blended" stuff for feedlot cattle. That says it all for me. Regards. [ ] Re: Aflatoxin Does anyone know if studies have been done showing eitherorganic or sprayed crops to fare better with regard to aflatoxins?Thanks,->> Probably more than you wanted to know about aflatoxin:> > http://www.aflatoxin.info/aflatoxin.asp> > Rodney.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 You can search the web for aflatoxin and government. What I'm sure now is that the animal corn here is labelled "for human consumption" and specifies the aflatoxin content. That means to me it was tested and cleaned. The idea of using "organic" corn or peanuts is beyond my comprehension. The government supposedly keeps a tight rein on peanut crops, and previous req'ts of <10 for humans, and <400 for animal feed is not followed now. Rather 20 ppb for milk cows,eg, because it can get into milk. I called Planters and they assured me the peanuts they buy are free of aflatoxin and they clean them in their processing as well. But the problem with peanut sprouting as I see it, is where to buy certified seed for sprouting. I won't touch that for anyone's reason. It's too easy for that stuff to start growing after they're tested. I haven't seen fresh peanuts anywhere and I'm sure I couldn't tell aflatoxin mold from the mold that appears on oranges or any other produce. http://www.aflatoxin.info/food_safety.asp In 1997, the European Commission proposed maximum limits for aflatoxins in certain foodstuffs. The standard ranged from 4 ppb in cereals, edible nuts, and dried fruit, to 10 ppb for nuts that are subject to further processing. http://www.vicam.com/press_releases/pr_2003_08_26.html About Aflatoxin Aflatoxin, a toxin from a naturally occurring mold, is a Group 1 carcinogen proven to cause cancer in humans. Throughout the world, there are significant regulations on the presence of aflatoxins in food and feed. The US federal government action level for aflatoxin in food for human consumption or in dairy cow feed is 20 ppb. The European Commission has action levels for aflatoxin in cereals intended for direct human consumption or for ingredients in foodstuffs. These action levels are 4ppb total aflatoxin and 2 ppb for aflatoxin B1. Additionally, EU member states have established their own maximum levels for aflatoxins in food and feedstuffs which are not included in the EC regulations. http://plantpathology.tamu.edu/aflatoxin/text/regulatory-t.htm regulations Notice the allowance of "blended" stuff for feedlot cattle. That says it all for me. Regards. [ ] Re: Aflatoxin Does anyone know if studies have been done showing eitherorganic or sprayed crops to fare better with regard to aflatoxins?Thanks,->> Probably more than you wanted to know about aflatoxin:> > http://www.aflatoxin.info/aflatoxin.asp> > Rodney.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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