coffeRe: Re: Coffee toxic/

March 13, 2006

Hi ~

*****Thanks for the post. It was much more information than I wanted

to have about my favorite beverage :-(, but I expect that I'll keep

drinking my 1-2 mugs/day of 50-50 blend (half decaf/half regular).

It is too great a pleasure for me to give up at this point.

You wrote, " Caffeine is addictive. Personally I have to keep away

from it completely, or I'll get back into it. When I quit I have

horrible withdrawl symptoms: two days of horrible headaches and body

aches, and then about two weeks of general listlessness. "

*****Yes, I know the feeling. Now I've learned to be wiser. When I

want (or need) to get off the stuff (e.g., prior to a prolonged

hospital stay), I plan ahead and reduce the caffinated portion of my

drink(s) by 1/3 for three days days, then another third for three

days, etc. After about 10 days I'm on fully decaffinated java and

can stop drinking the stuff entirely without any significant side-

effects. In this manner I've avoided about 80% of the headache

syndrome and have felt virutally no listlessness or malaise. (I

remember the first time I quit cold-turkey: for about one week I felt

as if I had the flu, minus the fever. Really yucky!)

March 13, 2006

All of the recent posts notwithstanding, I still don't see a general

argument against coffee; rather the opposite.

Some people might not like it or tolerate it well, but it remains a

source of both antioxidants and is generally correlated with health

rather than disease sequellae. The notion that it raises the " set

point " of hypertension has been disproven, and the focused study on

some people whose hearts genetically wig out on it, well, I guess they

shouldn't drink it. Clearly decaf has some problems, while I have yet to

see real data on broadly negative data damning caffeine (or nicotine,

sans the tars as through Nicorette, for that matter, but that's another

subject). So are there any current real data damning coffee? I don't need

to drink it, but frankly I believe that its likely healthier to drink 300

ml or so of it a day than to abstain or drink decaf.

http://tinyurl.com/pyz48

Witness the 2004 data regarding coffee and diabetes:

http://tinyurl.com/lkfwx

Maco

coffeRe: [ ] Re: Coffee toxic/

>

>--- In , A Houle <ph18@...>

wrote:

>

>Hi ~

>

>*****Thanks for the post. It was much more information than I

wanted

>to have about my favorite beverage :-(, but I expect that I'll keep

>drinking my 1-2 mugs/day of 50-50 blend (half decaf/half

regular).

>It is too great a pleasure for me to give up at this point.

>

>You wrote, " Caffeine is addictive. Personally I have to

keep away

>from it completely, or I'll get back into it. When I quit

I have

>horrible withdrawl symptoms: two days of horrible headaches and

body

>aches, and then about two weeks of general

listlessness. "

>

>*****Yes, I know the feeling. Now I've learned to be

wiser. When I

>want (or need) to get off the stuff (e.g., prior to a prolonged

>hospital stay), I plan ahead and reduce the caffinated portion of my

>drink(s) by 1/3 for three days days, then another third for three

>days, etc. After about 10 days I'm on fully decaffinated java

and

>can stop drinking the stuff entirely without any significant

side-

>effects. In this manner I've avoided about 80% of the headache

>syndrome and have felt virutally no listlessness or malaise. (I

>remember the first time I quit cold-turkey: for about one week I felt

>as if I had the flu, minus the fever. Really yucky!)

March 13, 2006