Re: Delighted with CRON, but two questions

[Guest guest]

I can't offer any insight into the itching but I have personally

experienced relief from night time cramps by supplementing with simple

table salt. This may seem counter intuitive since there is so much

general advice to cut down on dietary salt, but if you are eating

healthy home cooked meals (not processed crap) and very active (read

sweating a lot) you may actually be low on sodium.

I won't repeat my longer thesis/discussions about this but you are

invited to search the archives for past threads on this specific

topic.

JR

Barry Gamble wrote:

> I have two problems that are not CRON related but may be getting worse with

CRON. I am

> having trouble with itching and I am having trouble with cramps in the evening

after 3 sets

> of doubles tennis in the mornings.

>

> The itching has gotten to the point that a whole body skin transplant would be

my choice

> in some alternate universe. And the cramps --- well once I got them in both

leg calf

> muscles and the front shin muscle, in the same area, in both legs. First I

would stretch

> both the calf muscles but the minute I would stop that and have my wife push

down on my

> toes of both feet to stretch the front muscles, the calves would re-cramp.

After 20

> minutes of this I was in tears of both pain and frustration. This episode was

9 months

> ago. Today I have quinine, only play tennis once a week and hobble to the hot

tub to do

> the stretching in hot water. But still, I'd rather be sleeping at 2 AM.

>

> I have been having these problems for years, but in the last 5 months they

have gotten

> considerably worse. It could be things (don't you love my technical

vocabulary) being

> released into my blood stream as I have lost weight. I am 65 years, 6' tall

and weigh in at

> 167 pounds today. I have lost 23 lbs in the last 5 months since starting

CRON. I have

> been doing 17 hours of tea only each day and then eating my calories in 7

hours. Diet is

> good; lots of steamed veggies, wild salmon, great salad variety (with black

beans and

> quinoa, a couple of nuts, and a couple of eggs a week. Some Ortho-Core and

Longevinex

> thrown in for good measure.

>

> So the question, have any of you had similar problems?

>

> I have been taking N-Acetyl-Cysteine and Glutathione since I started CRON to

aid the

> chelation of anything released by my fat reduction.

>

> Oh, some additional info about the itching. About 2 years ago my doctor said,

" time for

> your once in a lifetime pneumonia shoot. " Well --- I got a rash with itching

that never

> went away but got slowly better for 18 months. Then I started CRON and it is

much

> worse. If you see a guy on the street that can't go through a door without

rubbing his

> back on the doorframe, that's me. New type of obsessive compusive behavior

>

> But no way am I going to stop CRON. I feel great! A bounce in my step, happy

mood,

> good energy, a little giddy --- what black cloud, I don't see any black cloud

(Visualize

> with head snapping back and forth, confused Alzheimer look). ?

>

> Barry Gamble

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Barry:

I agree with JW's comments here. For many years I used to get

itchiness all over, only for twenty minutes after I emerged from the

shower. Occasionally it was so extreme I had to go back into the

shower to relieve the symptoms. But that didn't really help as I

could not stay in the shower for ever!

Then I changed my diet by adding (usually oily) fish, and more nuts

than previously - raising my fat intake from ~10% of calories to ~20%.

It took a while for me to notice that the disappearance of symptoms

was associated with the change in diet. But I am convinced this was

the explanation. Whether it is overall fat intake or some particular

type of fat I do not know. But fish/nuts fixed the problem I had.

But my symptoms, only lasting for twenty minutes at a time, seem to

be be somewhat different from yours.

Rodney.

--- In , " jwwright " <jwwright@e...>

wrote:

>

> You may need more essential fatty acids. A symptom is dusty elbows.

> Do you do a low fat diet?

>

> Regards.

> [ ] Delighted with CRON, but two questions

>

>

> I have two problems that are not CRON related but may be getting

worse with CRON. I am

> having trouble with itching and I am having trouble with cramps

in the evening after 3 sets

> of doubles tennis in the mornings.

>

> The itching has gotten to the point that a whole body skin

transplant would be my choice

> in some alternate universe. And the cramps --- well once I got

them in both leg calf

> muscles and the front shin muscle, in the same area, in both

legs. First I would stretch

> both the calf muscles but the minute I would stop that and have

my wife push down on my

> toes of both feet to stretch the front muscles, the calves would

re-cramp. After 20

> minutes of this I was in tears of both pain and frustration.

This episode was 9 months

> ago. Today I have quinine, only play tennis once a week and

hobble to the hot tub to do

> the stretching in hot water. But still, I'd rather be sleeping

at 2 AM.

>

> I have been having these problems for years, but in the last 5

months they have gotten

> considerably worse. It could be things (don't you love my

technical vocabulary) being

> released into my blood stream as I have lost weight. I am 65

years, 6' tall and weigh in at

> 167 pounds today. I have lost 23 lbs in the last 5 months since

starting CRON. I have

> been doing 17 hours of tea only each day and then eating my

calories in 7 hours. Diet is

> good; lots of steamed veggies, wild salmon, great salad variety

(with black beans and

> quinoa, a couple of nuts, and a couple of eggs a week. Some

Ortho-Core and Longevinex

> thrown in for good measure.

>

> So the question, have any of you had similar problems?

>

> I have been taking N-Acetyl-Cysteine and Glutathione since I

started CRON to aid the

> chelation of anything released by my fat reduction.

>

> Oh, some additional info about the itching. About 2 years ago my

doctor said, " time for

> your once in a lifetime pneumonia shoot. " Well --- I got a rash

with itching that never

> went away but got slowly better for 18 months. Then I started

CRON and it is much

> worse. If you see a guy on the street that can't go through a

door without rubbing his

> back on the doorframe, that's me. New type of obsessive

compusive behavior

>

> But no way am I going to stop CRON. I feel great! A bounce in

my step, happy mood,

> good energy, a little giddy --- what black cloud, I don't see any

black cloud (Visualize

> with head snapping back and forth, confused Alzheimer look). ?

>

> Barry Gamble

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The oils previously mentioned are derfinitely worth a try. Also, I'd

get a general blood test that includes

iron test. Skin on my legs went nuts when I was anemic. Also, a

nutritionist told me once that

rough elbows were a sign of Vit C deficiency... just another idea:

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002404.htm

Barry Gamble wrote:

>I have two problems that are not CRON related but may be getting worse with

CRON. I am

>having trouble with itching and I am having trouble with cramps in the evening

after 3 sets

>of doubles tennis in the mornings.

>

>The itching has gotten to the point that a whole body skin transplant would be

my choice

>in some alternate universe. And the cramps --- well once I got them in both

leg calf

>muscles and the front shin muscle, in the same area, in both legs. First I

would stretch

>both the calf muscles but the minute I would stop that and have my wife push

down on my

>toes of both feet to stretch the front muscles, the calves would re-cramp.

After 20

>minutes of this I was in tears of both pain and frustration. This episode was

9 months

>ago. Today I have quinine, only play tennis once a week and hobble to the hot

tub to do

>the stretching in hot water. But still, I'd rather be sleeping at 2 AM.

>

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