Re: Understand the anger- towards France.

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This is too politically motivated and is not appropriate for the

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Mike

On Jun 10, 2004, at 11:11 AM, DJC wrote:

> I  FOR SOME REASON HAVE PROBLEMS FORWARDING WHERE THE PICTURES DONT

> COME OUT...BUT IF THIS SHOULD HAPPEN PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ

> THIS.  I PERSONALLY FEEL THAT THIS IS AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT

> FORWARD...AND AS YOU KNOW I DON'T OFTEN VOICE AN OPINION ON MATTERS.

> DEBBIE

> Interesting recd frm J D E

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> Here are some photos that are worth a thousand words. Now I'm

> understanding the anger.

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> 66,033 Americans are Buried or Missing in France.

> Many thousands more died fighting for France

> but are buried and honored here in the US.

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> For the first time, America was seeking help from France. But France

> has turned her back on u!!!

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> Please remember these Dead Americans when you go shopping, as the

> French seem to have forgotten them.

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> France has every right to disagree with America, but France has moved

> from simple dissent to active hostility toward America. France

> President Chirac warned East European nations that if they sided with

> the US, France would oppose their membership in the European Union.

> This very week, Safire reported in the New York Times that

> France has been secretly helping to arm Iraq and has been helping Irag

> build long range missiles. These same missiles may NOW possibly be

> used against our own US soldiers. Just as France has exercised its

> right to disagree, all Americans can exercise their right to boycott

> and help countries that do not stand with us. French Products and

> Companies to Boycott:

>

> Air France

> Air Liquide

> Airbus (airplanes in commercial use)

> Alcatel

> Allegra (allergy medication)

> Aqualung - including: Spirotechnique, Technisub, US Divers and SeaQuest

> AXA Advisors

> Bank of the West (owned by BNP Paribas)

> Beneteau (boats)

> B! F Goodrich (owned by Michelin)

> BIC (razors, pens and lighters)

> Biotherm (cosmetics

> Black Bush

> Bollinger (champagne)

> Car & Driver Magazine

> Cartier

> Chanel

> Chivas Regal (scotch)

> Christian Dior

> Club Med (vacations)

> Culligan (owned by Vivendi)

> Dannon (yogurt and dairy foods)

> DKNY

> Dom Perigonon (champagne)

> Durand Crystal

> Elle Magazine

> Essilor Optical Products

> Evian

> Fina (petroleum products) and Fina Oil (billions invested in Iraqi oil

> fields)

> First Hawaiian Bank

> Magazine

> Givenchy

> Glenlivet (scotch)

> Hennessy (liquor products)

> Houghton Mifflin (books)

> s Creek (owned by Pernod Ricard since 1989)

> on (whiskey)

> Jerry Springer (talk show)

> Krups (coffee and cappuccino makers)

> Lancome - Le Creuset (cookware)

> L'Oreal (health and beauty products)

> Louis Vuitton

> Marie

> Martel Cognac

> Maybelline

> Mephisto (shoes & clothes)

> Michelin (tires & auto parts)

> Mikasa (crystal and glass! )

> Moet (champagne)

> Motel 6

> Motown Records

> MP3.com

> Mumms (champagne)

> Nissan (cars - majority owned by Renault )

> Nivea

> Normany Butter

> Parents Magazine

> Peugeot (automobiles)

> Pierre Cardin

> Playstation Magazine

> ProScan (owned by Thomson Electronics - France)

> Publicis Group (including Saatchi & Saatachi Advertising)

> RCA (television & electronics - owned by Thomson Electronics - France)

> Red Magazine

> Red Roof Inns (owned by Accor group in France)

> Renault (automobiles)

> Roquefort cheese (all Roquefort cheese is made in France)

> Rowenta (toasters, irons, coffee makers)

> Royal Canadian

> Salomon (skis)

> Sierra Software & Computer Games

> Smart & Final

> Sofitel (hotels, owned by Accor group)

> Sparkletts (water, owned by Danone)

> Spencer Gifts.

> Sundance Channel

> Made (gold clubs & equipment)

> Technicolor

> T-Fal (kitchenware

> Total Gas Stations

> UbiSoft (computer games)

> Uniroyal (tires)

> Universal Studios (music, movies and amusement parks - owned by

> Vivendi)

> US Filter

> Veritas Group

> Veuve Clicquot Champagne

> Vittel

> Vivendi

> Wild Turkey (bourbon)

> Woman's Day Magazine

> Yoplait (The French company Sodiaal owns a 50% stake)

> Yves Saint t

> Zodia Inflatable Boats

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> Lastly, a French company was awarded a $700 million plus contract to

> operate the 55 mess halls of our US Marine facilities. Call your

> congressman and ask that this be rescinded regardless of the cost.

> This is an absolute insult to our Marines.

>

> This boycott has been promoted by NewsMax's and has been frequently

> mentioned by Bill O'Reilly on the O'Reilly Factor.

>

> If you will send this to at least 10 friends and relative to also

> forward, it is possible to reach 100 million people in a very short

> time. GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Guest guest]

hi

mike,

gee guy, how about lightning up a bit. I

dont know what happened to us lately. a lot of

older members arent posting anymore. and for me,,, it is getting

just a wee bit serious.

we agreed long before you came on the scene that if we had something

funny or serious or off the heart problems we could post and put social

in the subject, that way if you dont want to look at it you can

delete.

we had a good thing going for a long time and i for one would like to see

it come back.

and i might add the social thing in the subject line was suggested by

none other than mr duffy, the starter of all of this entire web

site.

believe me,,, a wee bit of humor works.... and i for one

enjoyed the french thing.... as for the way they think of the u.s.

now is horrible.... they have forgotten how many or our boys died

saving their tails 60 years ago. watch the " longest

day " and youll see what i mean.

bobby in missippi.....

[Guest guest]

Bob,

For the most part I agree with you. I hate not being able to chat.

However, the spam that came two messages before the France one bugs

me. I don't allow it on any of the lists I run. As soon as someone

posts something like that they are set to moderated status. For the

most part these are professional spammers joining groups just to post

their speil.

As for the political one, I disagree with the sentiment expressed in

it. I have some pretty forceful political views and for the sake of

peace on the list, I won't challenge the information and logic in

that post.

Bridget

>

> >hi mike,

>

>

> gee guy, how about lightning up a bit. I dont know what

happened to us

> lately. a lot of older members arent posting anymore. and for

me,,, it

> is getting just a wee bit serious.

>

> we agreed long before you came on the scene that if we had

something funny

> or serious or off the heart problems we could post and put social

in the

> subject, that way if you dont want to look at it you can delete.

>

> we had a good thing going for a long time and i for one would like

to see

> it come back.

>

> and i might add the social thing in the subject line was suggested

by none

> other than mr duffy, the starter of all of this entire web site.

>

> believe me,,, a wee bit of humor works.... and i for one enjoyed

the

> french thing.... as for the way they think of the u.s. now is

> horrible.... they have forgotten how many or our boys died saving

their

> tails 60 years ago. watch the " longest day " and youll see what i

mean.

>

> bobby in missippi.....

[Guest guest]

removes attachments sent to the groups. That is why i think. TURK

Interesting recd frm J D E

Read the companies at the end

Here are some photos that are worth a thousand words. Now I'm understanding the anger. France < BR>! 66,033 Americans are Buried or Missing in France. Many thousands more died fighting for France but are buried and honored here in the US. Thanks France For the first time, America was seeking help from France. But France has turned her back on u!!! Please remember these Dead Americans when you go shopping, as the French seem to have forgotten them. France has every right to disagree with America, but France has moved from simple dissent to active hostility toward America. France President Chirac warned East European nations that if they sided with the US, France would oppose their membership in the European Union. This very week, Safire reported in the New York Times that France has been secretly helping to arm Iraq and has been helping Irag build long range missiles. These same missiles may NOW possibly be used against our own US soldiers. Just as France has exercised its right to disagree, all Americans can exercise their right to boycott and help countries that do not stand with us. French Products and Companies to Boycott: Air France Air Liquide Airbus (airplanes in commercial use) Alcatel Allegra (allergy medication) Aqualung - including: Spirotechnique, Technisub, US Divers and SeaQuest AXA Advisors Bank of the West (owned by BNP Paribas) Beneteau (boats) B! F Goodrich (owned by Michelin) BIC (razors, pens and lighters) Biotherm (cosmetics Black Bush Bollinger (champagne) Car & Driver Magazine Cartier Chanel Chivas Regal (scotch) Christian Dior Club Med (vacations) Culligan (owned by Vivendi) Dannon (yogurt and dairy foods) DKNY Dom Perigonon (champagne) Durand Crystal Elle Magazine Essilor Optical Products Evian Fina (petroleum products) and Fina Oil (billions invested in Iraqi oil fields) First Hawaiian Bank Magazine Givenchy Glenlivet (scotch) Hennessy (liquor products) Houghton Mifflin (books) s Creek (owned by Pernod Ricard since 1989) on (whiskey) Jerry Springer (talk show) Krups (coffee and cappuccino makers) Lancome - Le Creuset (cookware) L'Oreal (health and beauty products) Louis Vuitton Marie Martel Cognac Maybelline Mephisto (shoes & clothes) Michelin (tires & auto parts) Mikasa (crystal and glass! ) Moet (champagne) Motel 6 Motown Records MP3.com Mumms (champagne) Nissan (cars - majority owned by Renault )Nivea Normany Butter Parents Magazine Peugeot (automobiles) Pierre Cardin Playstation Magazine ProScan (owned by Thomson Electronics - France) Publicis Group (including Saatchi & Saatachi Advertising) RCA (television & electronics - owned by Thomson Electronics - France) Red Magazine Red Roof Inns (owned by Accor group in France) Renault (automobiles) Roquefort cheese (all Roquefort cheese is made in France) Rowenta (toasters, irons, coffee makers)Royal Canadian Salomon (skis) Sierra Software & Computer Games Smart & Final Sofitel (hotels, owned by Accor group) Sparkletts (water, owned by Danone) Spencer Gifts. Sundance Channel Made (gold clubs & equipment) Technicolor T-Fal (kitchenware Total Gas Stations UbiSoft (computer games) Uniroyal (tires) Universal Studios (music, movies and amusement parks - owned by Vivendi)US Filter Veritas Group Veuve Clicquot Champagne Vittel Vivendi Wild Turkey (bourbon) Woman's Day Magazine Yoplait (The French company Sodiaal owns a 50% stake) Yves Saint t Zodia Inflatable Boats Lastly, a French company was awarded a $700 million plus contract to operate the 55 mess halls of our US Marine facilities. Call your congressman and ask that this be rescinded regardless of the cost. This is an absolute insult to our Marines. This boycott has been promoted by NewsMax's and has been frequently mentioned by Bill O'Reilly on the O'Reilly Factor. If you will send this to at least 10 friends and relative to also forward, it is possible to reach 100 million people in a very short time. GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hello Bridget:

Since there is no membership restrictions to everyonce in a while (since I cant catch them all) one or two (spam) falls thru the cracks. Otherwise I delete at least four or five a week that you don't see. Sorry about this one. TURK

Re: Understand the anger- towards France.

Bob,For the most part I agree with you. I hate not being able to chat. However, the spam that came two messages before the France one bugs me. I don't allow it on any of the lists I run. As soon as someone posts something like that they are set to moderated status. For the most part these are professional spammers joining groups just to post their speil.As for the political one, I disagree with the sentiment expressed in it. I have some pretty forceful political views and for the sake of peace on the list, I won't challenge the information and logic in that post.Bridget > > >hi mike,> > > gee guy, how about lightning up a bit. I dont know what happened to us > lately. a lot of older members arent posting anymore. and for me,,, it > is getting just a wee bit serious.> > we agreed long before you came on the scene that if we had something funny > or serious or off the heart problems we could post and put social in the > subject, that way if you dont want to look at it you can delete.> > we had a good thing going for a long time and i for one would like to see > it come back.> > and i might add the social thing in the subject line was suggested by none > other than mr duffy, the starter of all of this entire web site.> > believe me,,, a wee bit of humor works.... and i for one enjoyed the > french thing.... as for the way they think of the u.s. now is > horrible.... they have forgotten how many or our boys died saving their > tails 60 years ago. watch the "longest day" and youll see what i mean.> > bobby in missippi.....Please visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org

[Guest guest]

I agree with Bob We are taking ourselves to serously sometimes and its detracting from the good alot of you do for other people. Humor and a little political commentary won't hurt nothing and might be interesting. The bottom line is don't ruin a good thing over something that really is not that important in the long run. The board is to important for that

Just my 2 cents

Bill + ZeusRJS <BobbyJ85@...> wrote:

hi mike,gee guy, how about lightning up a bit. I dont know what happened to us lately. a lot of older members arent posting anymore. and for me,,, it is getting just a wee bit serious.we agreed long before you came on the scene that if we had something funny or serious or off the heart problems we could post and put social in the subject, that way if you dont want to look at it you can delete.we had a good thing going for a long time and i for one would like to see it come back.and i might add the social thing in the subject line was suggested by none other than mr duffy, the starter of all of this entire web site.believe me,,, a wee bit of humor works.... and i for one enjoyed the french thing.... as for the way they think of the u.s. now is horrible....

they have forgotten how many or our boys died saving their tails 60 years ago. watch the "longest day" and youll see what i mean. bobby in missippi.....Please visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org

[Guest guest]

Bill and Bob,

Okay, I got the message. I AM too serious. It's one of my personality

defects. But I have the strong feeling that if I expressed what I

believed about Iraq, the U.S. and the rest of the world, I'd probably

get tarred and feathered (figuratively). It has to do with point of

view.

Regarding my seriousness, I recall a scene from the film " 's

Daughter " about the young daughter of an Irish pub owner marrying an

old school master. Being young and in her prime, she had an affair with

a young British officer. The town expressed their displeasure by

shearing off her long hair, inadvertently tearing her dress. The

stiff-jawed local priest storms up the hill and confronts the

instigator and punches him in the face. The guy says, " Father, you're

taking advantage of your collar. " The priest replies, " That's what it's

for! " That priest was my model and shaped my work in the church. In the

end, my seriousness did me in and probably contributed to my

out-of-control hypertension. (See? I can relate this to the

topic.) I ended up working with the local police department as chaplain

and rangemaster (Huh? Yeah, I am NOT a non-violent religious) until

heart failure nearly ended my career.

Since then, I've tried to live more sedately, but the whole Iraq thing

has churned me up and I'm struggling not to get enraged and spit. Some

of that may have come from the accident of my birth in an American

concentration camp. Who knows?

In any event, y'all are right...it is good to keep the levity on the

. Humor is healing. Bob, you've been especially good at this.

Keep reminding us all that there is life in Mississippi.

Mike

On Jun 11, 2004, at 3:43 AM, Bill schaeffler wrote:

> I agree with Bob We are taking ourselves to serously sometimes and its

> detracting from the good alot of you do for other people. Humor and a

> little political commentary won't hurt nothing and might be

> interesting. The bottom line is don't ruin a good thing over something

> that really is not that important in the long run. The board is to

> important for that

>     Just my 2 cents

>      Bill + Zeus

>

> RJS <BobbyJ85@...>wrote:

> hi mike,

>

>

> gee guy,   how about lightning up a bit.    I dont know what happened

> to us lately.     a lot of older members arent posting anymore.  and

> for me,,, it is getting just a wee bit serious.

>

> we agreed long before you came on the scene that if we had something

> funny or serious or off the heart problems we could post and put

> social in the subject, that way if you dont want to look at it you can

> delete.

>

> we had a good thing going for a long time and i for one would like to

> see it come back.

>

> and i might add the social thing in the subject line was suggested by

> none other than mr duffy, the starter of all of this entire web site.

>

> believe me,,, a wee bit of humor works....   and i for one enjoyed the

> french thing....  as for the way they think of the u.s. now is

> horrible....  they have forgotten how many or our boys died saving

> their tails 60 years ago.   watch the " longest day " and youll see what

> i mean.

>

>   bobby in missippi.....

>

>

> Please visit the Zapper homepage at

> http://www.ZapLife.org

>

>

>

>

> Please visit the Zapper homepage at

> http://www.ZapLife.org

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Rest assured, you would not be the only one wearing feathers. I'm

trying not to get too involved in it because my heart is pretty tochy

right now (can't wait for surgery). But it's really hard to

staysedate when I see my country going to heck in a handbag as my

kids put it.

Bridget

> > hi mike,

> >

> >

> > gee guy,   how about lightning up a bit.    I dont know what

happened

> > to us lately.     a lot of older members arent posting anymore. 

and

> > for me,,, it is getting just a wee bit serious.

> >

> > we agreed long before you came on the scene that if we had

something

> > funny or serious or off the heart problems we could post and put

> > social in the subject, that way if you dont want to look at it

you can

> > delete.

> >

> > we had a good thing going for a long time and i for one would

like to

> > see it come back.

> >

> > and i might add the social thing in the subject line was

suggested by

> > none other than mr duffy, the starter of all of this entire web

site.

> >

> > believe me,,, a wee bit of humor works....   and i for one

enjoyed the

> > french thing....  as for the way they think of the u.s. now is

> > horrible....  they have forgotten how many or our boys died

saving

> > their tails 60 years ago.   watch the " longest day " and youll see

what

> > i mean.

> >

> >   bobby in missippi.....

> >

> >

> > Please visit the Zapper homepage at

> > http://www.ZapLife.org

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Please visit the Zapper homepage at

> > http://www.ZapLife.org

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >