Re: Green Smoothie Warning

[Guest guest]

gosh, that sounds awful; could you provide a link to the information, I'd like

to read it. thanks, Joyce

>

> I got this in an email this AM from Clever Homeakers' group. I've known

> about switching off greens because of LeeAnn, but in case others haven't

> heard this, I thought I'd share.

>

>

>

> Greetings~

>

> Just a heads up regarding green smoothies....too much of a good thing can be

> bad. Please read:

>

> I'm a HUGE green smoothie lover. Been enjoying them for many months. One

> morning, while sipping on a spinach smoothie, I started having an intense

> pain in my back, around the kidney area. It was a back pain I never

> experienced before. Very strange but I blew it off. Next green smoothie, the

> pain came again. It was so weird!! After the third pain episode, decided to

> do some googling of 'green smoothie kidney pain'. Well, sure enough green,

> leafy veggies can cause KIDNEY STONES!! Especially my beloved spinach!! I

> was shocked!

>

> Green smoothie advocates will tell you to ALWAYS switch up your greens and

> never have the same green 2 days in a row. Each green has a unique level of

> nutrients. I LOVE spinach but did vary my greens...kale, turnip and beet

> greens, etc. Didn't matter. The oxalates in the greens can cause kidney

> stones. Plain and simple.

>

> I'm following a kidney stone diet now.

>

> Please, if you are prone to any kind of kidney issue, DO YOUR HOMEWORK! This

> seemingly innocent and healthy drink can be harmful. I'm soooooo bummed!

>

> Oh and did you read the article about the 88 y/o Chinese woman who ate 2

> pounds of raw bok choy everyday? She wound up in a coma! I almost fell of my

> chair. Apparently, there's an enzyme in (uncooked) cabbage that affects the

> thyroid. She was eating huge amounts of it in an effort to control her

> diabetes.

>

> <sigh>

>

> Hope this helps someone avoid the pain I'm going through.

>

> ~Kelli

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Margie,

I don't consume sugar or soda, but do use salt. I rotate my greens, drink tons

of purified water and I have so many other things to worry about that I'm not

going to fret about this!

thanks,

Joyce

>

> >

>

> > I got this in an email this AM from Clever Homeakers' group. I've known

>

> > about switching off greens because of Lee Ann ,

> but in case others haven't

>

> > heard this, I thought I'd share.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Greetings~

>

> >

>

> > Just a heads up regarding green smoothies... .too much of a good thing can

> be

>

> > bad. Please read:

>

> >

>

> > I'm a HUGE green smoothie lover. Been enjoying them for many months. One

>

> > morning, while sipping on a spinach smoothie, I started having an intense

>

> > pain in my back, around the kidney area. It was a back pain I never

>

> > experienced before. Very strange but I blew it off. Next green smoothie,

> the

>

> > pain came again. It was so weird!! After the third pain episode, decided

> to

>

> > do some googling of 'green smoothie kidney pain'. Well, sure enough green,

>

> > leafy veggies can cause KIDNEY STONES!! Especially my beloved spinach!! I

>

> > was shocked!

>

> >

>

> > Green smoothie advocates will tell you to ALWAYS switch up your greens and

>

> > never have the same green 2 days in a row. Each green has a unique level

> of

>

> > nutrients. I LOVE spinach but did vary my greens...kale, turnip and beet

>

> > greens, etc. Didn't matter. The oxalates in the greens can cause kidney

>

> > stones. Plain and simple.

>

> >

>

> > I'm following a kidney stone diet now.

>

> >

>

> > Please, if you are prone to any kind of kidney issue, DO YOUR HOMEWORK!

> This

>

> > seemingly innocent and healthy drink can be harmful. I'm soooooo bummed!

>

> >

>

> > Oh and did you read the article about the 88 y/o Chinese woman who ate 2

>

> > pounds of raw bok choy everyday? She wound up in a coma! I almost fell of

> my

>

> > chair. Apparently, there's an enzyme in (uncooked) cabbage that affects

> the

>

> > thyroid. She was eating huge amounts of it in an effort to control her

>

> > diabetes.

>

> >

>

> > <sigh>

>

> >

>

> > Hope this helps someone avoid the pain I'm going through.

>

> >

>

> > ~Kelli

>

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

>

> Thanks, Margie,

>

> I don't consume sugar or soda, but do use salt. I rotate my greens, drink

tons of purified water and I have so many other things to worry about that I'm

not going to fret about this!

>

> thanks,

>

> Joyce

>

Not to be an alarmist, but " purified " water is bad news-usually contains as many

chemicals as tap water-its " purified " with chlorine, as a rule. " Enhanced "

water is equally as bad. Just a heads up from someone who was getting as sick

from my " pure " water as I was from other things. I now drink spring water only.

And I recommend sea salt to avoid the anti caking stuff in regular salt. Again,

only posting because I found these two things to be totally interfering with my

efforts to good health.

[Guest guest]

Hi Margie,

We use Nikken Pi Mag water which has minerals in it; no chemical purification

involved--what are you referring to when you say " enhanced " water? thanks, Joyce

> >

> > Thanks, Margie,

> >

> > I don't consume sugar or soda, but do use salt. I rotate my greens, drink

tons of purified water and I have so many other things to worry about that I'm

not going to fret about this!

> >

> > thanks,

> >

> > Joyce

> >

> Not to be an alarmist, but " purified " water is bad news-usually contains as

many chemicals as tap water-its " purified " with chlorine, as a rule. " Enhanced "

water is equally as bad. Just a heads up from someone who was getting as sick

from my " pure " water as I was from other things. I now drink spring water only.

And I recommend sea salt to avoid the anti caking stuff in regular salt. Again,

only posting because I found these two things to be totally interfering with my

efforts to good health.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

WOW! thank you for this info. I just inherited my vitamix from my Grandfather

and was very excited to start. Last thursday was my first time using it so I

made a green smoothie with lots of greens and spinach. It was good and I felt

great until later on that night. I was exhausted and had bad pain in the kidney

area (never had that before). Went to bed early and the next day I felt fine but

had a fruit smoothie instead. I wonder if it was the greens bothering my

kidneys? I only had one big glass. What do you think?

I am new here and glad I found you

thanks

>

> I got this in an email this AM from Clever Homeakers' group. I've known

> about switching off greens because of LeeAnn, but in case others haven't

> heard this, I thought I'd share.

>

>

>

> Greetings~

>

> Just a heads up regarding green smoothies....too much of a good thing can be

> bad. Please read:

>

> I'm a HUGE green smoothie lover. Been enjoying them for many months. One

> morning, while sipping on a spinach smoothie, I started having an intense

> pain in my back, around the kidney area. It was a back pain I never

> experienced before. Very strange but I blew it off. Next green smoothie, the

> pain came again. It was so weird!! After the third pain episode, decided to

> do some googling of 'green smoothie kidney pain'. Well, sure enough green,

> leafy veggies can cause KIDNEY STONES!! Especially my beloved spinach!! I

> was shocked!

>

> Green smoothie advocates will tell you to ALWAYS switch up your greens and

> never have the same green 2 days in a row. Each green has a unique level of

> nutrients. I LOVE spinach but did vary my greens...kale, turnip and beet

> greens, etc. Didn't matter. The oxalates in the greens can cause kidney

> stones. Plain and simple.

>

> I'm following a kidney stone diet now.

>

> Please, if you are prone to any kind of kidney issue, DO YOUR HOMEWORK! This

> seemingly innocent and healthy drink can be harmful. I'm soooooo bummed!

>

> Oh and did you read the article about the 88 y/o Chinese woman who ate 2

> pounds of raw bok choy everyday? She wound up in a coma! I almost fell of my

> chair. Apparently, there's an enzyme in (uncooked) cabbage that affects the

> thyroid. She was eating huge amounts of it in an effort to control her

> diabetes.

>

> <sigh>

>

> Hope this helps someone avoid the pain I'm going through.

>

> ~Kelli

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

How and where do you get your spring water?

thanks,

Joyce

Also, does anyone have a list of states where it is legal to buy raw dairy

products (unpasturized?) It was illegal in NJ where we just moved from, but I'm

not sure about VA where we live now! thanks!

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> The Nikken pi mag unit has been researched and proven to not work

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi ,

>

> How and where do you get your spring water?

>

> thanks,

>

> Joyce

>

> Also, does anyone have a list of states where it is legal to buy raw dairy

products (unpasturized?) It was illegal in NJ where we just moved from, but I'm

not sure about VA where we live now! thanks!

I am fortunate enough to have a wonderful ex husband who lugs me 5 gallon jugs 3

times a week from his house-he has an awesome spring water well. I wish I could

recommend a source for you, but really don't have a clue what I would do if this

darling man didn't do this for me! I have reacted to just about all other water

I have tried. It was actually his idea to start bringing me water-I call him my

personal Culligan man!

As for raw milk, MOST places have food co ops where you can get raw milk as a

member, or cow share programs; We had neither where I live, so I bought some

cows and pay a farmer to take care of them for me-WELL worth the investment! I

avoided dairy most of my life due to EXTREME allergy to milk, but I thrive on

the raw stuff. We sometimes have to resort to unconventional means to get what

we need, especially when dealing with chronic food allergies!

[Guest guest]

Hi Stacey and ,

Stacey--that is too funny! I'll have to ask at the local (non-chain) health

food store and see what I can find out.

How does raw milk taste? I grew up in upstate NY two houses down from a dairy

farm. We spent lots of time there as we were great friends with their boys.

However, I remember the times that we had raw milk at their house, I swear it

smelled like cow manure and/or had a really different taste than our store

bought milk.

Maybe I was just too young to appreciate it; however, one of their boys was

class valdictorian and the other Saluditorian (I don't think I spelled those

correctly, and I can never figure out how to spell check on google.) Does the

fat in raw dairy products have any beneficial properties like Omega 3's do?

, you should count your blessings that your ex takes such good care of you

My parents live near Lake Placid, NY and get their water from an artisan well

that someone placed a faucet on so that everyone can use it for free. It tastes

great, however, even up here in the Adirondack Park (6 million square miles)

acid rain is getting into the lakes and water supplies.

Does anyone put alkalizing PH drops in their water? Much of American water

supply is overly acidic and, of course, we all know that we want our bodies PH

to be as alkaline as possible.

thanks all!

Joyce

> >

> > Hi ,

> >

> > How and where do you get your spring water?

> >

> > thanks,

> >

> > Joyce

> >

> > Also, does anyone have a list of states where it is legal to buy raw dairy

products (unpasturized?) It was illegal in NJ where we just moved from, but I'm

not sure about VA where we live now! thanks!

>

> I am fortunate enough to have a wonderful ex husband who lugs me 5 gallon

jugs 3 times a week from his house-he has an awesome spring water well. I wish I

could recommend a source for you, but really don't have a clue what I would do

if this darling man didn't do this for me! I have reacted to just about all

other water I have tried. It was actually his idea to start bringing me water-I

call him my personal Culligan man!

>

> As for raw milk, MOST places have food co ops where you can get raw milk as

a member, or cow share programs; We had neither where I live, so I bought some

cows and pay a farmer to take care of them for me-WELL worth the investment! I

avoided dairy most of my life due to EXTREME allergy to milk, but I thrive on

the raw stuff. We sometimes have to resort to unconventional means to get what

we need, especially when dealing with chronic food allergies!

>

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