Guest guest Posted December 21, 1999 Report Share Posted December 21, 1999 I will probably get a lot of flack for this, but I can't sit back and watch all this go on. , thank you AGAIN for all of your help. Do not listen to the people that have " a missplaced hair " . Their are many more people out there who appreciate what you do for them. I, for one, am glad you you switched me over, without my having to do anything. To those people who are complaining, you were notified by E-mail that this would occur. You COULD have intercepted being moved, if you wanted to. I am actually glad we have switched over. If all these people are getting their panties in a bunch over this, and leaving, maybe we are just doing " housecleaning " of the list. Like I said before, I will probably get nasty E-mails aimed at me. These will probably come from the very people this is targeted to. Oh, well. I think when someone is trying to help you, truly help you, you should not be chastising them. Why are my feathers ruffled so much? I've been on the other end, like (other ). It doesn't make you want to devote too much of your time to something if all you hear is what you're doing wrong. In the club that I use to be President of, we had several people who could find no good in anything that was done. When they came to me complaining, I just said, " That means you're volunteering to chair it the next time, right? " , in Seattle, and bracing for impact PS The other reason I'm upset, is that I'd really like to get back to all those neat tips, Q's & A's, and recipes that this list is famous for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 1999 Report Share Posted December 21, 1999 AAAAAAAAAAAmen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! " housecleaning " , long From: " Don Farnam " <dfarnam@...> I will probably get a lot of flack for this, but I can't sit back and watch all this go on. , thank you AGAIN for all of your help. Do not listen to the people that have " a missplaced hair " . Their are many more people out there who appreciate what you do for them. I, for one, am glad you you switched me over, without my having to do anything. To those people who are complaining, you were notified by E-mail that this would occur. You COULD have intercepted being moved, if you wanted to. I am actually glad we have switched over. If all these people are getting their panties in a bunch over this, and leaving, maybe we are just doing " housecleaning " of the list. Like I said before, I will probably get nasty E-mails aimed at me. These will probably come from the very people this is targeted to. Oh, well. I think when someone is trying to help you, truly help you, you should not be chastising them. Why are my feathers ruffled so much? I've been on the other end, like (other ). It doesn't make you want to devote too much of your time to something if all you hear is what you're doing wrong. In the club that I use to be President of, we had several people who could find no good in anything that was done. When they came to me complaining, I just said, " That means you're volunteering to chair it the next time, right? " , in Seattle, and bracing for impact PS The other reason I'm upset, is that I'd really like to get back to all those neat tips, Q's & A's, and recipes that this list is famous for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 1999 Report Share Posted December 22, 1999 > From: Broak1@... > Me too. I am fairly new to the list and am (WAS) enjoying all the helpful > hints, recipes and suggestions. If it does not soon start back I will leave > the list and find another place for help. > ellen Branwen's Law of Mailing Lists: After every disruption in the normal proccesses of the list (i.e. list change, new moderator, fight, people leaving, etc.) the list will remain disrupted for a period lasting anywhere from one day to one week. Do not yet your panties in a bunch, since it's highly unlikely that any change will destroy the overall integrity of a long-standing mailing list. Branwen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 1999 Report Share Posted December 22, 1999 I don't want to add to this, but I do feel that the less said, the best said... This is a list comprised of a community of people interested in making and developing toiletries. Some are good, some are average, some are not so good, and so on. But I will take the good with the bad and all the in between because I expect there to be the occasional griping and moaning. We're people and people will be people and it doesn't matter how long the list of rules are that govern a list of people, there are still going to be the moaners and groaners and the people who feel the need to tell them to shut up already. But I don't feel that that's a reason to leave a list. Just hit the delete key. I would hate to see people leave over something so trivial. Believe me, you will find these types of back-and-forths and petty skirmishes happening occasionally on any of the lists you join, and I'm on about 20. It will blow over. Things will return to normal, and in two weeks time, this won't even be remembered. But if you remove yourself from the list you deprive yourself and the list of any thing you could possibly contribute to the list and this community. Plus, you're miss out on all the wonderful tips and hints splattered in between all the small talk and chit-chat and petty arguments. I'm in for the long haul, how about the rest of you? Sandy > From: " Branwen " <branwen@...> > > > > > From: Broak1@... > > > Me too. I am fairly new to the list and am (WAS) enjoying all the > helpful > > hints, recipes and suggestions. If it does not soon start back I will > leave > > the list and find another place for help. > > ellen > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 1999 Report Share Posted December 22, 1999 AMEN!!!! Also...Do we still need to delete footer messages on this list? Sharon NC > From: " Don Farnam " <dfarnam@...> > > I will probably get a lot of flack for this, but I can't sit back and watch > all this go on. , thank you AGAIN for all of your help. Do not listen > to the people that have " a missplaced hair " . Their are many more people out > there who appreciate what you do for them. I, for one, am glad you you > switched me over, without my having to do anything. To those people who are > complaining, you were notified by E-mail that this would occur. You COULD > have intercepted being moved, if you wanted to. I am actually glad we have > switched over. If all these people are getting their panties in a bunch > over this, and leaving, maybe we are just doing " housecleaning " of the list. > Like I said before, I will probably get nasty E-mails aimed at me. These > will probably come from the very people this is targeted to. Oh, well. I > think when someone is trying to help you, truly help you, you should not be > chastising them. Why are my feathers ruffled so much? I've been on the > other end, like (other ). It doesn't make you want to devote too > much of your time to something if all you hear is what you're doing wrong. > In the club that I use to be President of, we had several people who could > find no good in anything that was done. When they came to me complaining, I > just said, " That means you're volunteering to chair it the next time, > right? " > > , in Seattle, and bracing for impact > > PS The other reason I'm upset, is that I'd really like to get back to all > those neat tips, Q's & A's, and recipes that this list is famous for > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 1999 Report Share Posted December 22, 1999 Yes, please do this. We can't arrange it so that unedited messages don't go through, although we wish we could. So you will have to take responsibility for being considerate to digest members. Remember, if someone is on digest--it is no fun to have to read umpteen footers, onelist adds, etc. And it takes up band width, and some people do have to pay by the message. So, edit your messages, PLEASE. Gently, Shoshana List admin The e Family wrote: > > From: " The e Family " <wildwood@...> > > AMEN!!!! Also...Do we still need to delete footer messages on this list? > > Sharon > NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 1999 Report Share Posted December 23, 1999 Sandy...I'm with you...God Bless...It's only the moon!! 133 years from now the same kind of bickering will be going on and they can blame it on the moon, again!! And, thanks, for all your help and support during this list change-over and moon-shinning. Merry Christmas to all. Jean RE: " housecleaning " , long | From: " Gibson-Posey, Sandy, CTR, OSD/DOT & E " <SGibson-Posey@...> | | I don't want to add to this, but I do feel that the less said, the best | said... This is a list comprised of a community of people interested in | making and developing toiletries. Some are good, some are average, some are | not so good, and so on. But I will take the good with the bad and all the in | between because I expect there to be the occasional griping and moaning. | We're people and people will be people and it doesn't matter how long the | list of rules are that govern a list of people, there are still going to be | the moaners and groaners and the people who feel the need to tell them to | shut up already. | | But I don't feel that that's a reason to leave a list. Just hit the delete | key. I would hate to see people leave over something so trivial. Believe me, | you will find these types of back-and-forths and petty skirmishes happening | occasionally on any of the lists you join, and I'm on about 20. It will blow | over. Things will return to normal, and in two weeks time, this won't even | be remembered. But if you remove yourself from the list you deprive yourself | and the list of any thing you could possibly contribute to the list and this | community. Plus, you're miss out on all the wonderful tips and hints | splattered in between all the small talk and chit-chat and petty arguments. | | I'm in for the long haul, how about the rest of you? | | Sandy | | > From: " Branwen " <branwen@...> | > | > | > | > > From: Broak1@... | > | > > Me too. I am fairly new to the list and am (WAS) enjoying all the | > helpful | > > hints, recipes and suggestions. If it does not soon start back I will | > leave | > > the list and find another place for help. | > > ellen | > | > | | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 1999 Report Share Posted December 23, 1999 Don Farnam wrote: > I, for one, am glad you you switched me over, without my having to do anything. Me toooo!!!! Thank you Thank you for all your hard work BodyGlow, Limited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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