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Cheryl writes: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

That shouldn't happen now. If you

don't want your child spending hours every day riding buses, if you

don't want your child

going to school in other school districts, if you don't want your child

being isolated from

their neighbors and siblings, if you don't want child learning a teacher

dictated curriculum

.... just say no. The law supports your right to do so.

Cheryl in VA <<<<<<<<<<<<

No matter what I write, Cheryl seems to disagree. That's her right. I

wrote that my daughter tolerated hour long bus rides in the fifteen

years she was in the public school. One has to think about it. That

was two hours less TV a day (OK, in our house the TV was in tha attic or

on a computer most of these years). The standards we have as busy and

overstressed adults doesn't necessarily apply to our children for whom

the bus ride is a quiet time.

My daughter, Jan, was NOT ISOLATED from her neighbors and siblings. She

wouldn't have seen them at school, bus she sure did outside. Those

connections are still strong. Isolation from siblings .. that simply

didn't happen.

My daughter was taught to the true essence of an IEP. She was taught

forward from wherever she was on any particular year. She was

challenged to the limits of her capability. I wish her siblings (NDA)

had functioned as well re their capabilities as she did.

In our case, the approved options were not good. The local school

district would have exposed her to far more distracting environments

than she had (and she was marginal ADHD, like her older brother). She

thrived, found friends at school and had a very inclusive environment

ouside of school. This was coupled with the plain fact that the school

district didn't want her. I always felt that allowing someone to teach

my child was a privilege. They didn't get it.

What decisions you make should be made on your particular environment.

The law supports your right to fight for your child's rights to a local

solution. If that's best, go for it. If something else is better (as

we found), go for what's better.

Rick

BTW, I put Jan's older brother on public transportation today. He coped

and I picked him up at the end of the day at the stop where he got off.

Yes, he spent time on the 'bus' instead of in a car and he had to wait

for a pick-up.

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In a message dated 3/8/2003 12:50:25 AM Central Standard Time,

rdill@... writes:

> My daughter, Jan, was NOT ISOLATED from her neighbors and siblings. She

> wouldn't have seen them at school, bus she sure did outside. Those

> connections are still strong. Isolation from siblings .. that simply

> didn't happen.

HI Rick :)

IMHO its not the same thing, see Sara does NOT go to school with her

neighborhood peers. Our neighborhood was rezoned a few years back and we

stayed at her school on a transfer. Sara has only developed a few

relationships with the neighborhood kids........... mainly because of me. I

am a sitter for two neighborhood girls. I knew this was going to be a draw

back when we opted to stay in Sara's school but the neighborhood school was

out of the question because of their lies, tricks and noncompliance issues :(

Sara has a very out going personality so Im praying in Middle School she will

at least get to know the neighborhood kids better. Three Elementary schools

pool into the Middle school.

Kathy mom to Sara 11

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In a message dated 3/8/2003 1:47:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, rdill@...

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> No matter what I write, Cheryl seems to disagree

I believe there are others participating in this thread on out of district

busing besides you and I. ;-) And they are speaking about long bus rides as one

of the factors involved, as well as " specialized classrooms " .

My comments are not directed to or about you. I have made no disagreement with

any statement or quote you have made. I am merely pointing out that people have

a choice and do not have to accept out of district placment or long bus rides if

they so chose. The law supports them in that choice .... and it is their choice

to say no. Joy has pointed out that she made a choice to say yes to an out of

district placement and the law supported her in that choice also.

I think the posts made in this thread are helping people focus on the fact that

whatever decision they make, it should be a fully informed one.

Cheryl in VA

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School busses here in the south do not have air conditioning and the bus drivers

have two whole weeks of training for their jobs. I think I'd much rather have

my son home safe in front of the tube than suffering from heat prostration or

worse. We used to put length of bus ride into the IEP even when he was in his

neighborhood school. I do think parents should have the CHOICE when it comes to

what their child should do.

Elaine

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Cheryl writes: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

That shouldn't happen now. If you

don't want your child spending hours every day riding buses, if you

don't want your child

going to school in other school districts, if you don't want your child

being isolated from

their neighbors and siblings, if you don't want child learning a teacher

dictated curriculum

... just say no. The law supports your right to do so.

Cheryl in VA <<<<<<<<<<<<

No matter what I write, Cheryl seems to disagree. That's her right. I

wrote that my daughter tolerated hour long bus rides in the fifteen

years she was in the public school. One has to think about it. That

was two hours less TV a day (OK, in our house the TV was in tha attic or

on a computer most of these years). The standards we have as busy and

overstressed adults doesn't necessarily apply to our children for whom

the bus ride is a quiet time.

My daughter, Jan, was NOT ISOLATED from her neighbors and siblings. She

wouldn't have seen them at school, bus she sure did outside. Those

connections are still strong. Isolation from siblings .. that simply

didn't happen.

My daughter was taught to the true essence of an IEP. She was taught

forward from wherever she was on any particular year. She was

challenged to the limits of her capability. I wish her siblings (NDA)

had functioned as well re their capabilities as she did.

In our case, the approved options were not good. The local school

district would have exposed her to far more distracting environments

than she had (and she was marginal ADHD, like her older brother). She

thrived, found friends at school and had a very inclusive environment

ouside of school. This was coupled with the plain fact that the school

district didn't want her. I always felt that allowing someone to teach

my child was a privilege. They didn't get it.

What decisions you make should be made on your particular environment.

The law supports your right to fight for your child's rights to a local

solution. If that's best, go for it. If something else is better (as

we found), go for what's better.

Rick

BTW, I put Jan's older brother on public transportation today. He coped

and I picked him up at the end of the day at the stop where he got off.

Yes, he spent time on the 'bus' instead of in a car and he had to wait

for a pick-up.

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